https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfwmHkFS3I8

Shawn Lee - master at work, making a track in 2 Hours...

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Rachel, for example.

https://www.youtube.com/w...fWAoluXttI

They are there, but they don't sell I guess (maybe only to the older "Jazz" crowds)
Bad EDM that all sound the same and fakers and corny biters like Bruno Mars are easily more marketable to an audience with a attention span of a gnat.

World class talent isn't marketable anymore it seems that's why there aren't any huge popstars anymore like MJ, Madonna or Prince but only these 15 minute flash in the pans.

mrjj71 said:

Was thinking today that there's a real lack of super talented,all singing,all dancing, multi instrumentalists who write their own material too these days in the Prince mould. Why is that?????? I guess Bruno Mars is probably the closest but are there any others? It seems it's kinda gone out of Vogue these days. We obviously had D'angelo and Lenny but any other current singers to recommend? It seems like there's just an abundance of singer's doing The Weeknd style edm but where have all the dynamic performers gone who really rock a show?

Dutch artist Jett Rebel writes & records as much music as Prince did. And he does everything by himself. All instruments, arrangement, producing, recording.
He released 8 albums in the past 10 years, and he's got almost double that on the shelf.

Dunno why his talent isn't recognised more then it currently is.

That might change though, since he's the producer of the upcoming album from Hall & Oates.

me but just not as good

TUFKATweety said:

mrjj71 said:

Was thinking today that there's a real lack of super talented,all singing,all dancing, multi instrumentalists who write their own material too these days in the Prince mould. Why is that?????? I guess Bruno Mars is probably the closest but are there any others? It seems it's kinda gone out of Vogue these days. We obviously had D'angelo and Lenny but any other current singers to recommend? It seems like there's just an abundance of singer's doing The Weeknd style edm but where have all the dynamic performers gone who really rock a show?

Dutch artist Jett Rebel writes & records as much music as Prince did. And he does everything by himself. All instruments, arrangement, producing, recording.
He released 8 albums in the past 10 years, and he's got almost double that on the shelf.

Dunno why his talent isn't recognised more then it currently is.

That might change though, since he's the producer of the upcoming album from Hall & Oates.

Because he may make a lot of 'music' (almost an insult using the word to describe his output) but it's mostly crap and most musically inclined people think he's a pretentious douche who thinks he's so good.
Een totale aansteller zoals we in Nederland zeggen.

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there's even more of these guys than ever before

just under the radar

doesnt mean theyre all good ofc

JorisE73 said:

christobole said:

Jacob Collier is very impressive. Justin Lee Schultz too. But Jacob writes songs. Justin, as far as I know, is more of a Instagram guy.

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Jacob Collier

https://www.youtube.com/w...JR6XSSKi-g

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Justin Lee Shultz

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https://www.youtube.com/w...Hog4D0TdLc

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mrjj71 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

mrjj71 said:

I think you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence. It seems genuine superstars aren't encouraged or allowed to grow any more. There was a time when an artist would develop and grow over several albums before hitting the jackpot. These days it seems you have to be a vital sensation singing a cover and that's it. I guess those of us who grew up with Prince,Madonna,Bruce,Mj etc in our teens really had the best of it. I will definitely check out everyone's recommendations but would love to find someone who really encompasses pop/funk/electro whilst playing a mean guitar and bass too.

Its that the industry prefers artists who are more ordinary these days eg ed Sheeran Someone who ppl can relate to Not someone who exists on another planet That does not fly in this decade [Edited 7/12/22 14:38pm]

That has more to do with everyone being able to be on in this decade. There's no standouts because EVERYONE has access. It's a level playing field. The most mediocre of mediocre can be seen by the masses. Anyone can get it.

in theory but not everyone breaks through

the industry still makes stars, eg dua lipa, camilla cabello etc etc

but yeah, it is easier now it seems to develop a cult following under the radar and be able to tour etc etc

JorisE73 said:

TUFKATweety said:

Dutch artist Jett Rebel writes & records as much music as Prince did. And he does everything by himself. All instruments, arrangement, producing, recording.
He released 8 albums in the past 10 years, and he's got almost double that on the shelf.

Dunno why his talent isn't recognised more then it currently is.

That might change though, since he's the producer of the upcoming album from Hall & Oates.

Because he may make a lot of 'music' (almost an insult using the word to describe his output) but it's mostly crap and most musically inclined people think he's a pretentious douche who thinks he's so good.
Een totale aansteller zoals we in Nederland zeggen.

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Still there is stuff of this 'totale aansteller' that I like.

I don't care for what kind of person he is.

Young and wild it seems, that's how I like 'm. That's how Prince was once too.

He even did a very strange experimental album called ''Truck'', that I like quite a lot (most people hate it).

Saw him live once, not that bad at all - has loads of stolen alures from many artists, but he breathes music too. He is music in his own way.

In 2017 (April 21 to be exactly) he did a nice 20min+ tribute during a live show on the piano with only Prince songs.

You can find it on the comon U-2be chanel.

Vannormal said:

JorisE73 said:

Because he may make a lot of 'music' (almost an insult using the word to describe his output) but it's mostly crap and most musically inclined people think he's a pretentious douche who thinks he's so good.
Een totale aansteller zoals we in Nederland zeggen.

[Edited 7/12/22 3:48am]

Still there is stuff of this 'totale aansteller' that I like.

I don't care for what kind of person he is.

Young and wild it seems, that's how I like 'm. That's how Prince was once too.

He even did a very strange experimental album called ''Truck'', that I like quite a lot (most people hate it).

Saw him live once, not that bad at all - has loads of stolen alures from many artists, but he breathes music too. He is music in his own way.

In 2017 (April 21 to be exactly) he did a nice 20min+ tribute during a live show on the piano with only Prince songs.

You can find it on the comon U-2be chanel.

I wasn't impressed (and don't know anyone who is) with wat this poser does and walked out at many of his pretentious festival "performances" because of his poser act. Lot of flash without any substance.
I've seen to many people just laugh at him and roll there eyes at his performances to take him seriously. He doesn't have the chops or talent to back up his pretentious behaviour. A bit like Terence Trent Dárby back in the 80s with his pretentious wannabe 'Prince' interviews but at least he had some talent to back up that dumb behaviour.

I don't think there's any shortage of talented multi-instrumentalists out there, they're just mostly relegated to the indie/underground scenes nowadays. Hell, that's probably how it has always been, even back when it was easier to "make it" in the music industry.

It really takes a special blend of luck, talent, and hard work to play well and write songs with wide appeal in the way that someone like Prince or Stevie Wonder could. It wasn't any more common in the 70s or 80s than it is now, really.

JorisE73 said:

Vannormal said:

Still there is stuff of this 'totale aansteller' that I like.

I don't care for what kind of person he is.

Young and wild it seems, that's how I like 'm. That's how Prince was once too.

He even did a very strange experimental album called ''Truck'', that I like quite a lot (most people hate it).

Saw him live once, not that bad at all - has loads of stolen alures from many artists, but he breathes music too. He is music in his own way.

In 2017 (April 21 to be exactly) he did a nice 20min+ tribute during a live show on the piano with only Prince songs.

You can find it on the comon U-2be chanel.

I wasn't impressed (and don't know anyone who is) with wat this poser does and walked out at many of his pretentious festival "performances" because of his poser act. Lot of flash without any substance.
I've seen to many people just laugh at him and roll there eyes at his performances to take him seriously. He doesn't have the chops or talent to back up his pretentious behaviour. A bit like Terence Trent Dárby back in the 80s with his pretentious wannabe 'Prince' interviews but at least he had some talent to back up that dumb behaviour.

So he really is that kind of a prick then ? Did not know that.

He actually is totally unknown here in Belgium.

I only know him from a couple of songs on some radiostation.

Well, whatever. Prince was more than often a prick too, right ?

But true, the latter was waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy more talented than a million Jetts out there.

Agree.

Forgot to mention that Wolfgang Van Halen, Eddie Van Halen´s son, recorded all instruments on his latest album. As far as I know, he doesnt solo in these instruments, as Prince did, but he sounds like a band

Vannormal said:

JorisE73 said:

I wasn't impressed (and don't know anyone who is) with wat this poser does and walked out at many of his pretentious festival "performances" because of his poser act. Lot of flash without any substance.
I've seen to many people just laugh at him and roll there eyes at his performances to take him seriously. He doesn't have the chops or talent to back up his pretentious behaviour. A bit like Terence Trent Dárby back in the 80s with his pretentious wannabe 'Prince' interviews but at least he had some talent to back up that dumb behaviour.

So he really is that kind of a prick then ? Did not know that.

He actually is totally unknown here in Belgium.

I only know him from a couple of songs on some radiostation.

Well, whatever. Prince was more than often a prick too, right ?

But true, the latter was waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy more talented than a million Jetts out there.

Agree.

Joris, sorry, but you're full of shit.
I bet you haven't listened to any of his records from the first to the last track.
Yes, there are some songs that make me cringe, but so are there a heap of Prince songs where I silently vomit inside my mouth.

I happen to know the kid personally.
(And so do about 20 'old' hardcore Dutch Prince fans, because they recognise a lot of what they've seen/heard before.)
He's more of a musician (as Prince defined, real music by real people) then 99.99% of his generation out there.

I've been to 50+ of his gigs in the past 5-6 years.
One of them was almost 4,5 hrs (Nieuwjaarsoptreden 2019, Paradiso)
Another 3 were during the 'Live in your living room' gigs in New York City, where we afterwards hung out in bars until the early morning.
Another one was in Antwerp on the day P died. He was full of tears, came to me to comfort me and played a ad-hoc Prince tribute during his show.

His shows have one common denominator: He wow's the crowd.



But hey... you've got your opinion, I've got mine.

Vannormal
You can find some great performances of Jett Rebel on my youtube chanel: https://www.youtube.com/c...KXYu61mzFw

Check the last one, 'Cry Me A River, Bleed Me An Ocean'

Forgot to mention Louis Cole too. He plays drums, keys and bass very well. And sings.

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BTW, I recommend his work with Knower and solo. Great artist.

TUFKATweety said:

Vannormal said:

So he really is that kind of a prick then ? Did not know that.

He actually is totally unknown here in Belgium.

I only know him from a couple of songs on some radiostation.

Well, whatever. Prince was more than often a prick too, right ?

But true, the latter was waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy more talented than a million Jetts out there.

Agree.

Joris, sorry, but you're full of shit.
I bet you haven't listened to any of his records from the first to the last track.
Yes, there are some songs that make me cringe, but so are there a heap of Prince songs where I silently vomit inside my mouth.

I happen to know the kid personally.
(And so do about 20 'old' hardcore Dutch Prince fans, because they recognise a lot of what they've seen/heard before.)
He's more of a musician (as Prince defined, real music by real people) then 99.99% of his generation out there.

I've been to 50+ of his gigs in the past 5-6 years.
One of them was almost 4,5 hrs (Nieuwjaarsoptreden 2019, Paradiso)
Another 3 were during the 'Live in your living room' gigs in New York City, where we afterwards hung out in bars until the early morning.
Another one was in Antwerp on the day P died. He was full of tears, came to me to comfort me and played a ad-hoc Prince tribute during his show.

His shows have one common denominator: He wow's the crowd.



But hey... you've got your opinion, I've got mine.

Vannormal
You can find some great performances of Jett Rebel on my youtube chanel: https://www.youtube.com/c...KXYu61mzFw

Check the last one, 'Cry Me A River, Bleed Me An Ocean'

LOL you're full of shit man. But you can have him and his shitty 'high school cover band' quality music.
Nobody in NL or abroad cares for him or his shitty music that's why he has no relevant carreer.
The only reason people desperately keep hyping him in NL is because NL has nothing else to deliver in the music department.

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GustavoRibas said:

Forgot to mention Louis Cole too. He plays drums, keys and bass very well. And sings.

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BTW, I recommend his work with Knower and solo. Great artist.

I was surprised he wasn't mentioned earlier on in this thread, he is a great artist!

Jack White is the only one I really see as coming close. He's an amazing musician, a really underrated and funky drummer. "I've Got You Surrounded (With My Love)" off his latest record is very prince-like to me, perhaps my favorite White track of all-time.

funkaholic1972 said:

GustavoRibas said:

Forgot to mention Louis Cole too. He plays drums, keys and bass very well. And sings.

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BTW, I recommend his work with Knower and solo. Great artist.

I was surprised he wasn't mentioned earlier on in this thread, he is a great artist!

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- Yeah! Knower is one of the best things in pop music right now. They sound fresh and they are true musicians. And Louis Cole is a creative force.

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Here is a sample:

https://www.youtube.com/w...nEmD17kYsE

claudemorton said:

Jack White is the only one I really see as coming close. He's an amazing musician, a really underrated and funky drummer. "I've Got You Surrounded (With My Love)" off his latest record is very prince-like to me, perhaps my favorite White track of all-time.

Just been listening to this...Lot's of Prince in there for sure.

Thanks for the track recommendation