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Reply #90 posted 08/03/22 9:58am

Landonfunkmonk
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My worry is Sharon using the tracks to sing on to promote herself.

I feared Tyka would do this as Well.
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Reply #91 posted 08/03/22 2:11pm

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

My worry is Sharon using the tracks to sing on to promote herself.

I feared Tyka would do this as Well.


Awww gawd, that would be awful, I sure hope not. Anything is possible I suppose, but that would be a downright disaster.
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Reply #92 posted 08/03/22 2:39pm

dodger07

nosajd said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

My worry is Sharon using the tracks to sing on to promote herself.

I feared Tyka would do this as Well.


Awww gawd, that would be awful, I sure hope not. Anything is possible I suppose, but that would be a downright disaster.


Could be worse. We could get a John L Nelson piano album
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Reply #93 posted 08/03/22 11:03pm

strongoxman1

Honest Question: What would be the problem of moving the reels that have already been digitized and catalogued back to MN? If they've been digitized, does it really matter much from a music preservation perspective if Sharon insists on having them back in the physical Vault?
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Reply #94 posted 08/04/22 12:49am

FrankieCoco1

I don’t know if it has been confirmed that everything has been digitised, I doubt it all has, if you take account of all tapes of music and video. Even if it all has, possibly with future technology advances having the originals kept in their best possible state would be worthwhile, in my view.

It’s often been said WB still hold rights to the soundtracks. Now that WB music and WB film are owned separately, might that be another complication in the process of releasing a Parade deluxe, for example?
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Reply #95 posted 08/04/22 2:40am

fredmagnus

Just 2 months ago, the digitisation was still in progress. So everyone stating the process is over is saying BS.

Given the fact that this work is not done yet, the family first decision is just a disaster.

It should have stayed in Iron Mountain even after it's digitised anyway.
[Edited 8/4/22 2:41am]
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Reply #96 posted 08/04/22 3:10am

fredmagnus

It's not about what Prince would have done or wanted (as a reminder, the tapes had been rotting for years in a PP basement), it's about preserving an important piece of music history.

Blinded by their hatred towards Comerica and their religious beliefs, those people, family or not, don't seem to be qualified to take such a huge responsibility.
[Edited 8/4/22 3:11am]
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Reply #97 posted 08/04/22 4:45am

EnglishGent2

love2thenines2003 said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

The Diamonds and Pearls/Love Symbol hybrid release sounds very appealing. However the albums alone are 4 records. If there were say another 4 of edits,mixes etc, then maybe 3 records of outtakes and two concerts over 6 records. It would have been one massive release.

Reported these past hours by Doc Funkenburry

“Whatever was planned under the old regime, don’t expect it now.”



Would have been massive but doesn't have to be released on vinyl straight away, which would be the one thing that would hold it back.


Anyway, seems irrelvant now. Interesting to see what happens now that probate appears to have been settled. Hopefully we get plenty of new music coming.

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Reply #98 posted 08/04/22 8:11am

laytonian

strongoxman1 said:

Honest Question: What would be the problem of moving the reels that have already been digitized and catalogued back to MN? If they've been digitized, does it really matter much from a music preservation perspective if Sharon insists on having them back in the physical Vault?


1 - The "vault" at Paisley is not large enough. There were boxes stacked outside in the hallway leading to the underground garage.
2 - Preservation is important. These are important historical items that whose lifetime can be extended with proper protection.
3 - Security. Each of those tapes is a high-value item and storing them in a low-security area could mean things could "disappear".
4 - Why is Sharon worried where they are? No matter where, they would not be publicly accessible. Is she planning to have tours go down to the basement? (Remember, that elevator is publicly not accessible for obvious reasons).

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Reply #99 posted 08/04/22 8:12am

laytonian

fredmagnus said:

Just 2 months ago, the digitisation was still in progress. So everyone stating the process is over is saying BS. Given the fact that this work is not done yet, the family first decision is just a disaster. It should have stayed in Iron Mountain even after it's digitised anyway. [Edited 8/4/22 2:41am]


Not only was digitization not complete but it's understood that Michael Howe was "fired" from the project. I hope he talks.

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Reply #100 posted 08/04/22 2:46pm

funkbabyandthe
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The siblings dont really know much about much far as i can tell so hopefully this statement is just talking loud and saying nothing. Ie just a meaningless statement.
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Reply #101 posted 08/04/22 3:12pm

BSonmor

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Where are the trolls that kept on saying during the last 18 months, that D&P SDE was going to happen? 😅 Seriously where are they? Could they share their thoughts with us? Can't even remember their name. People who were sharing BS from the start, and that were such insulting?

You don't know anything about what's going on with the estate except what you've read on the internet. I'm telling you with certainty that D&P SDE announcement is very close. My guess, before the end of August. Mark my words...

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Reply #102 posted 08/04/22 4:32pm

PennyPurple

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love2thenines2003 said:

Reported these past hours by Doc Funkenburry

“Whatever was planned under the old regime, don’t expect it now.”


Well we always knew that...

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Reply #103 posted 08/05/22 3:14am

love2thenines2
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What do u expect from the Legacy/New Estate ??????

Interview with MC Millan

https://youtu.be/efar94bKVSA

Prince's $156M Estate Court battle finally ends | Morning in America

21 118 vues3 août 2022A six-year court battle over the late singer Prince's $156 million estate has ended. L. Londell McMillan, attorney and manager of Prince Legacy LLC, said the six years was a long period, and they would have liked the fight to have ended sooner. Still, McMillan told NewsNation's Adrienne Bankert, he's happy they have a chance to take the estate over now.

neutral

[Edited 8/5/22 3:14am]

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Reply #104 posted 08/05/22 5:00am

love2thenines2
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BSonmor said:

RODSERLING said:

Where are the trolls that kept on saying during the last 18 months, that D&P SDE was going to happen? 😅 Seriously where are they? Could they share their thoughts with us? Can't even remember their name. People who were sharing BS from the start, and that were such insulting?

You don't know anything about what's going on with the estate except what you've read on the internet. I'm telling you with certainty that D&P SDE announcement is very close. My guess, before the end of August. Mark my words...


According to all the probabilities but also according to the future decisions of the new team in management of the Estate in total disagreement with the Estate under the Comerica era, it is very unlikely and even non-existent that the SDE of D&P comes out, I hope to be wrong in my predictions but the most certain evidence is that nothing is going to come out before a long time and if there is one day, it is certain that the level of the SDE of 1999 and SOTT will be IMO never reached again!

[Edited 8/5/22 5:00am]

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Reply #105 posted 08/05/22 6:39am

funkbabyandthe
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Surely too early to declare that? We dont know what this new version of the estate is going to be like.
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Reply #106 posted 08/05/22 8:47am

EnglishGent2

BSonmor said:

RODSERLING said:

Where are the trolls that kept on saying during the last 18 months, that D&P SDE was going to happen? 😅 Seriously where are they? Could they share their thoughts with us? Can't even remember their name. People who were sharing BS from the start, and that were such insulting?

You don't know anything about what's going on with the estate except what you've read on the internet. I'm telling you with certainty that D&P SDE announcement is very close. My guess, before the end of August. Mark my words...

I have marked your words.

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Reply #107 posted 08/05/22 8:47am

EnglishGent2

love2thenines2003 said:

What do u expect from the Legacy/New Estate ??????

Interview with MC Millan

https://youtu.be/efar94bKVSA

Prince's $156M Estate Court battle finally ends | Morning in America

21 118 vues3 août 2022A six-year court battle over the late singer Prince's $156 million estate has ended. L. Londell McMillan, attorney and manager of Prince Legacy LLC, said the six years was a long period, and they would have liked the fight to have ended sooner. Still, McMillan told NewsNation's Adrienne Bankert, he's happy they have a chance to take the estate over now.

neutral

[Edited 8/5/22 3:14am]

Why the neutral face?

This is good news, isn't it?

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Reply #108 posted 08/05/22 10:07am

love2thenines2
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EnglishGent2 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

What do u expect from the Legacy/New Estate ??????

Interview with MC Millan

https://youtu.be/efar94bKVSA

Prince's $156M Estate Court battle finally ends | Morning in America

21 118 vues3 août 2022A six-year court battle over the late singer Prince's $156 million estate has ended. L. Londell McMillan, attorney and manager of Prince Legacy LLC, said the six years was a long period, and they would have liked the fight to have ended sooner. Still, McMillan told NewsNation's Adrienne Bankert, he's happy they have a chance to take the estate over now.

neutral

[Edited 8/5/22 3:14am]

Why the neutral face?

This is good news, isn't it?

From y perspective >>> NO !!!!

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Reply #109 posted 08/05/22 3:09pm

laytonian

love2thenines2003 said:

What do u expect from the Legacy/New Estate ??????

Interview with MC Millan

https://youtu.be/efar94bKVSA

Prince's $156M Estate Court battle finally ends | Morning in America

21 118 vues3 août 2022A six-year court battle over the late singer Prince's $156 million estate has ended. L. Londell McMillan, attorney and manager of Prince Legacy LLC, said the six years was a long period, and they would have liked the fight to have ended sooner. Still, McMillan told NewsNation's Adrienne Bankert, he's happy they have a chance to take the estate over now.

neutral

[Edited 8/5/22 3:14am]


I don't like listening. Got cliffs notes for that? Anything different from what we've read in the many news reports?

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Reply #110 posted 08/06/22 12:33am

RODSERLING

BSonmor said:



RODSERLING said:


Where are the trolls that kept on saying during the last 18 months, that D&P SDE was going to happen? 😅 Seriously where are they? Could they share their thoughts with us? Can't even remember their name. People who were sharing BS from the start, and that were such insulting?

You don't know anything about what's going on with the estate except what you've read on the internet. I'm telling you with certainty that D&P SDE announcement is very close. My guess, before the end of August. Mark my words...



I would he so glad to be proven wrong, but you're just another orger saying that release or announcement is imminent, like they were many in the last 18 months. And you know what?
Nothing happened.
.
There were so many people claiming they had insiders informations, and at the emd of the day, it appears they all lied.
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Reply #111 posted 08/06/22 2:55am

love2thenines2
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BSonmor said:

RODSERLING said:

Where are the trolls that kept on saying during the last 18 months, that D&P SDE was going to happen? 😅 Seriously where are they? Could they share their thoughts with us? Can't even remember their name. People who were sharing BS from the start, and that were such insulting?

You don't know anything about what's going on with the estate except what you've read on the internet. I'm telling you with certainty that D&P SDE announcement is very close. My guess, before the end of August. Mark my words...

Did u know a little 4 sure what's going with the current EState...i"d wish to believe u ...really but i'm pretty sure that The Estate himself does not know what's going on with Themselves !!

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Reply #112 posted 08/06/22 10:05am

RODSERLING

The current estate just went to publicly criticize the previous estate with their their releases.
Amd what did they release mainly? SDE.

So I highly doubt the current estate to release an SDE, moreover conceived by the previous estate! These people have logically all been fired, amd the tapes are moved again to some other place.

What's more, they criticized the previous estate for the music they released, but didn't say neither what they are now proposing.

So, IMHO, it's obvious nothing is prepared to be released or even announced this year.

Worst : Sony don't seem to be eager to release new batches of reissues ( and this has nothing to do with vinyl crisis) ; and WB don't seem to be willing to use their soundtracks to make SDEs.
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Reply #113 posted 08/06/22 1:55pm

lustmealways

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RODSERLING said:

The current estate just went to publicly criticize the previous estate with their their releases. Amd what did they release mainly? SDE. So I highly doubt the current estate to release an SDE, moreover conceived by the previous estate! These people have logically all been fired, amd the tapes are moved again to some other place. What's more, they criticized the previous estate for the music they released, but didn't say neither what they are now proposing. So, IMHO, it's obvious nothing is prepared to be released or even announced this year. Worst : Sony don't seem to be eager to release new batches of reissues ( and this has nothing to do with vinyl crisis) ; and WB don't seem to be willing to use their soundtracks to make SDEs.

in ROD we trust

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Reply #114 posted 08/06/22 2:10pm

laytonian

RODSERLING said:

The current estate just went to publicly criticize the previous estate with their their releases. Amd what did they release mainly? SDE. So I highly doubt the current estate to release an SDE, moreover conceived by the previous estate! These people have logically all been fired, amd the tapes are moved again to some other place. What's more, they criticized the previous estate for the music they released, but didn't say neither what they are now proposing. So, IMHO, it's obvious nothing is prepared to be released or even announced this year. Worst : Sony don't seem to be eager to release new batches of reissues ( and this has nothing to do with vinyl crisis) ; and WB don't seem to be willing to use their soundtracks to make SDEs.


HALF of the estate (PRN Legacy LLC, comprised of Sharon, Norrine and the late John Jr's heirs) are complaining.

Watch for OAT Holdings LLC (Omarr, Alfred, Tyka) to be a moderating force to keep those old people from messing things up.

As for WB: my own prediction is we'll see a Purple Rain 40th Anniversary SDE in 2024.

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Reply #115 posted 08/06/22 6:00pm

RODSERLING

laytonian said:



RODSERLING said:


The current estate just went to publicly criticize the previous estate with their their releases. Amd what did they release mainly? SDE. So I highly doubt the current estate to release an SDE, moreover conceived by the previous estate! These people have logically all been fired, amd the tapes are moved again to some other place. What's more, they criticized the previous estate for the music they released, but didn't say neither what they are now proposing. So, IMHO, it's obvious nothing is prepared to be released or even announced this year. Worst : Sony don't seem to be eager to release new batches of reissues ( and this has nothing to do with vinyl crisis) ; and WB don't seem to be willing to use their soundtracks to make SDEs.


HALF of the estate (PRN Legacy LLC, comprised of Sharon, Norrine and the late John Jr's heirs) are complaining.

Watch for OAT Holdings LLC (Omarr, Alfred, Tyka) to be a moderating force to keep those old people from messing things up.

As for WB: my own prediction is we'll see a Purple Rain 40th Anniversary SDE in 2024.



So, again, the same question remains : why would WB sit on their soundtracks, let's say Parade, that is rumoured to be completed since like two years ( say the same people swearing D&P was to be out in 2021) ?
Sony didn't wait for 2024 to re-release Syracuse, that was already re-released only five years ago.

2022 was supposed to be the year of Michael Keaton being the main Batman in the new DC expanded universe, and still nothing was planned for a Batman SDE ( the rave album, etc.).

Sure, now Keaton is out since a few days, but still, this Batman was a planned project for WB since 2019.

It appears to be, even with the previous estate, too many parts involved, unable to agree on something.

I repeat, it also makes no sense for Sony to stop the reissues that was planned since 2019. They literally stopped in 2020 with ONA, until Gold Experience -that didn't even include the true version of TMBGITW that Everybody knows!

Sony has a clear window to release, let's say all the NPGMC albums separately + the 12 monthly mixtapes in a boxset.

In that dire times, that would be the best timing to do that : these albums were never available in stores.
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Reply #116 posted 08/06/22 8:53pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Landonfunkmonkey said:

My worry is Sharon using the tracks to sing on to promote herself. I feared Tyka would do this as Well.

This made me literally laugh out loud!

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Reply #117 posted 08/06/22 11:17pm

funkbabyandthe
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Nothing ive seen has any clarity on what the new plan is or how this new estate will be different. So until i hesr anything, it seems pointless speculating. Absolutely no real details. Just hype that now the family will do things right. As if the family know this business! Ive not got My hopes up.
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Reply #118 posted 08/07/22 2:06am

love2thenines2
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Nothing ive seen has any clarity on what the new plan is or how this new estate will be different. So until i hesr anything, it seems pointless speculating. Absolutely no real details. Just hype that now the family will do things right. As if the family know this business! Ive not got My hopes up.

The facts > the Sharon/Mc Millan team opposed almost every release made by the Comerica era Estate (Comerica and the judge had the final say otherwise the SOTT and 1999 SDE releases would not have been possible), they were opposed to moving the Vault for protection and digitisation to Los Angeles, apparently the first decision to be taken by the new Estate would be to repatriate the Vault to PP where it would appear that no measures to secure the Vault (unsafe at the time of the move in 2017) had been taken; they did not appreciate the work proposed by Howe and Troy Carter and other quality contributors = Bernie Grundman for the remastering, you have today some elements of answers, we will not talk about the fiasco of the first huge contract signed at the beginning with Univesal and cancelled for hidden contractual defects in 2017 led by the hand of Master Mc Millan , so yes we already have a not very glorious state of mind and errors well present on the part of the interests since the beginning defended by Mc Millan/Sharon etc, my expectations for the future are very low and pessimistic, I hope to be wrong and to have all wrong ?

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Reply #119 posted 08/07/22 2:31am

Raevene

RODSERLING said:

They literally stopped in 2020 with ONA, until Gold Experience -that didn't even include the true version of TMBGITW that Everybody knows!

What are you talking about? The RSD reissue has the exact same version of it as the original

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