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Reply #30 posted 04/29/22 3:10pm

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Imagine being seen as starved but not being offered anything to eat
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Reply #31 posted 04/29/22 3:13pm

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And I'm totally cool with people having different opinions but don't just have them use them. You see it conventional R&B? I LOVE conventional R&B what conventional means, like Kenny G boring ish?

People are acting however I feel like stating they are acting nobody should pay my opinions any mind except main idea why not talk about Bria it's not like she's a bootleg or something
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Reply #32 posted 04/29/22 3:17pm

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PJMcGee said:

IanRG said:



PJMcGee said:


No one else into Ol' Skool Company? It's the only song on the albums I love. When he starts soloing (I'm think it's guitar, but it's so distorted it sounds synthy), my eyes roll back, I get the stank face, etc.

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Love this song - probalby my favourite in this album. I remember the time when I had collection on shuffle and Ol' Skool Company was followed by DMSR - So good.



Also love the Leno version. The great backup singers. I think the harmonica player goes off during the performance too. I thought he was wild and added a lot. (I may be conflating it with another Leno appearance.)


All the Leno appearances were the best. I wish Leno would leave his cars alone for a minute and not forget how much we appreciate having Prince on any shows really.
Ellen and Leno have moved on but not from everything right?

Tell Leno I know a place he'd enjoy visiting if he would honor me with an interview.
I don't know what Ellen likes but she is invited too.
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Reply #33 posted 04/29/22 4:39pm

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LoveGalore said:

heartpeacesheart said:
Why are people acting like you can't discuss the 3rd album of this release? Is it because it's Bria Valenti and I don't remember what her married name is now not important. Purposely omitting something is just dumb and frankly insults the people involved with the record.
No one is "acting" like that. They just don't care about the record. Imagine just sharing your honest opinion instead of speaking from such a codependent and starved perspective.


also, if they'd bothered to read the thread they'd have seen me mention the bria album and even suggesting it's tracks are mostly good enough to be on a prince release. especially if you set those songs against some of the tracks on MPLSound. combined they could have been a very nice little album with some solid tracks.

as far as discussing bria in the context of her album - even she couldn't be bothered with it after
the initial release. didn't even bother to perform a song on leno or on the tour. she forgot about a
new (prince) album even faster than prince did in those days.

but the songs, which were all written by prince no doubt, are pretty good, except for 1 or 2 so-so ones.


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Reply #34 posted 04/29/22 4:55pm

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LILpoundCAKE said:



LoveGalore said:


heartpeacesheart said:
Why are people acting like you can't discuss the 3rd album of this release? Is it because it's Bria Valenti and I don't remember what her married name is now not important. Purposely omitting something is just dumb and frankly insults the people involved with the record.

No one is "acting" like that. They just don't care about the record. Imagine just sharing your honest opinion instead of speaking from such a codependent and starved perspective.


also, if they'd bothered to read the thread they'd have seen me mention the bria album and even suggesting it's tracks are mostly good enough to be on a prince release. especially if you set those songs against some of the tracks on MPLSound. combined they could have been a very nice little album with some solid tracks.

as far as discussing bria in the context of her album - even she couldn't be bothered with it after
the initial release. didn't even bother to perform a song on leno or on the tour. she forgot about a
new (prince) album even faster than prince did in those days.

but the songs, which were all written by prince no doubt, are pretty good, except for 1 or 2 so-so ones.




What is the Bris album called. Cuz I only see 2 named releases.
See nobody will even say the name and I don't care if I only really REALLY listened to crimson and clover, and box of chocolates and I didn't even listen to the stuff performed on Leno or Ellen because unless you are in person with Prince who's trying to listen? TV appearances were for watching.

Anyway I still stand behind the point that not even Prince HIMSELF could recreate the MPLS sound. It damn sure isn't about harmonicas.
But before I go any further get some lunch and come back really prepared to not like my posts.

I happen to like all y'all posts.

If Bria doesn't like her demo I'll freaking do something with it dang.
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Reply #35 posted 04/29/22 6:05pm

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dustoff said:

I'd forgotten that U're Gonna C Me was re-recorded for MLPSound, I'll have to go back and listen to it. The version on One Nite Alone is lovely.

Update: Yeah, I prefer the ONA version.. not sure about those string flourishes in the newer version. Still, I have soft spot for this song. Probably one of those Prince tracks that I skipped for ages until suddenly I fell for it. I could make a long mix of those.

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Reply #36 posted 04/29/22 7:32pm

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I never accepted the fact that these two albums were packed together. They are SO different, and, while Lotus Flow3r is very well produced, with great band work and guitar playing (and some cool songs), MPLSound, to me, is sketchy and not even worthy of being a proper album (feels more like one of those for-diehard-fans internet releases).

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And this "3 albums in one package" thing made Lotus - one of his most cohesive albums since Rainbow Children - overlooked.

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Reply #37 posted 04/29/22 8:54pm

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Thanks Lurker316. As you mentioned that this and all of his albums have geen discussed many times. Nonetheless, I enjoyed this thread as it was fun to talk about an album again.

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Reply #38 posted 04/29/22 11:49pm

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Nobody commenting has all three CDs do you?
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Reply #39 posted 04/29/22 11:53pm

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LILpoundCAKE said:

He should also have just kept that whole Bria album for himself and just replaced a few songs off it something like perhaps:


01 Here Eye Come
02 All This Love
03 Home
04 Something U Already Know
05 Here
06 Dance 4 Me
07 Another Girl
08 Old Skool Company
09 No More Candy 4 U
10 Elixer



cool



Ok you listed Bria"s sort of but what's it called?
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Reply #40 posted 04/30/22 4:11am

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Milty2 said:

My favorite songs from this collection is Wall of Berlin and Colonized Mind. The solo at the end of Wall of Berlin is in my opinion one of Prince's best solos on record.

Yes. Great guitar on both. AMong his best stuff.

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Reply #41 posted 04/30/22 5:06am

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Jay, why make Emma jump like that? Just introduce the Purple One quietly enough.


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Reply #42 posted 04/30/22 7:12am

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GustavoRibas said:

I never accepted the fact that these two albums were packed together. They are SO different, and, while Lotus Flow3r is very well produced, with great band work and guitar playing (and some cool songs), MPLSound, to me, is sketchy and not even worthy of being a proper album (feels more like one of those for-diehard-fans internet releases).

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And this "3 albums in one package" thing made Lotus - one of his most cohesive albums since Rainbow Children - overlooked.

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Yes, on its own I don't think MPLSound is a great album. But as I mentioned above, played in context / immediately after Lotusflow3r, I think it makes a good contrast. Consider it a chaser, not the main course.


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Reply #43 posted 04/30/22 7:51am

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heartpeacesheart said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

He should also have just kept that whole Bria album for himself and just replaced a few songs off it something like perhaps:


01 Here Eye Come
02 All This Love
03 Home
04 Something U Already Know
05 Here
06 Dance 4 Me
07 Another Girl
08 Old Skool Company
09 No More Candy 4 U
10 Elixer



cool

Ok you listed Bria"s sort of but what's it called?


I honestly don't know what you want from me/us. I just hope you're ok comfort

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Reply #44 posted 04/30/22 8:10am

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I think one big reason 'Lotus Flow3r' sounds great is the fact that many basic tracks were recorded with the New Power Trio.

I.E. "From The Lotus..." is very reminicent of the unreleased coda to "Dolphin".

Some leftovers from those sessions were then released on 'Planet Earth', like the title track.

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Reply #45 posted 04/30/22 8:24am

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This thread is dangerously close to going rogue but I like how some people are trying to stay on the civil side of things lol

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Reply #46 posted 04/30/22 8:25am

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What is the name of Bria's CD?

I got"MPLS sound".
I got "lotusflw3r"
Bria's CD name: ???

If they were all 3 hers. Great!
I'm just asking what is the name of the third of the threesome?

I don't want to Google it. How about that.
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Reply #47 posted 04/30/22 8:57am

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'Elixer', dude, 'ELIXER'.

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Reply #48 posted 04/30/22 10:14am

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nayroo2002 said:

I think one big reason 'Lotus Flow3r' sounds great is the fact that many basic tracks were recorded with the New Power Trio.

I.E. "From The Lotus..." is very reminicent of the unreleased coda to "Dolphin".

Some leftovers from those sessions were then released on 'Planet Earth', like the title track.

I still like Gemini & protegé packaging, a Target exlusive! lol

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TRUE! That From the lotus / coda to Dolphin can be heard in the beginning of The Undertaker too.

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Michael and Sonny are my fave bandmembers and I wish those sessions were put in the same album

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Reply #49 posted 04/30/22 10:17am

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Forgot to say this, but Lotus Flow3r is one of those Prince albums that are specially great if you listen to it with earphones, paying attention to all details and not doing nothing else to distract. Other albums in this category are ´The Rainbow Children´ and ´Hit N Run Phase Two´. For those who never tried, I recommend.

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Reply #50 posted 04/30/22 11:00am

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GustavoRibas said:

Forgot to say this, but Lotus Flow3r is one of those Prince albums that are specially great if you listen to it with earphones, paying attention to all details and not doing nothing else to distract. Other albums in this category are ´The Rainbow Children´ and ´Hit N Run Phase Two´. For those who never tried, I recommend.


Interesting you say that, they're his 3 warmest sounding records. I guess warmest also means multi-layered. Of The Rainbow Children, Prince himself said "one for the headphones".


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Reply #51 posted 04/30/22 11:52am

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GustavoRibas said:

Forgot to say this, but Lotus Flow3r is one of those Prince albums that are specially great if you listen to it with earphones, paying attention to all details and not doing nothing else to distract. Other albums in this category are ´The Rainbow Children´ and ´Hit N Run Phase Two´. For those who never tried, I recommend.

I agree with this too but I'll have to use headphones on HNR Phase Two. Same can be said for W2A too. That solo in Wall Of Berlin is a great example. There is at least another guitar soloing-ish (maybe two) underneath that top solo.

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Reply #52 posted 04/30/22 3:01pm

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nayroo2002 said:

I think one big reason 'Lotus Flow3r' sounds great is the fact that many basic tracks were recorded with the New Power Trio.

I.E. "From The Lotus..." is very reminicent of the unreleased coda to "Dolphin".

Some leftovers from those sessions were then released on 'Planet Earth', like the title track.

I still like Gemini & protegé packaging, a Target exlusive! lol


very much so, indeed. nod


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Reply #53 posted 04/30/22 3:02pm

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I think I listened to "Wall Of Berlin" about 50 times in a single week last year. The guitar and drums are just incredible and delicious.


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Reply #54 posted 04/30/22 6:00pm

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GustavoRibas said:

Forgot to say this, but Lotus Flow3r is one of those Prince albums that are specially great if you listen to it with earphones, paying attention to all details and not doing nothing else to distract. Other albums in this category are ´The Rainbow Children´ and ´Hit N Run Phase Two´. For those who never tried, I recommend.



I agree. Rainbow Children, Lotusflow3r and HNR Phase Two are his three best albums outside of the 1980s.



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Reply #55 posted 04/30/22 6:07pm

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Milty2 said:

This thread is dangerously close to going rogue but I like how some people are trying to stay on the civil side of things lol



That was funny.
I'm just happy I don't have to ask the internet what the album was called because you know that would suck.
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Reply #56 posted 04/30/22 6:10pm

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It was starting to sound like the gingerbread man interrogation scene from Shrek for a minute.
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Reply #57 posted 05/03/22 10:08am

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I haven’t listened to this set in a decade. So this was a fun little endeavor.


Getting the brief stuff out of the way, I actually slugged through Elixir. Something U Already Know and the title track were decent. The rest was unlistenable.


MPLS Isn’t worth getting into a track by track analysis. It’s nowhere near Hit-and-Run part one bad, but it is definitely in the very lower rung of Prince albums.



I must say I was extremely happy with the majority of Lotus. 4Ever felt like Justin Bieber, 77 Beverly was a little too quaint, and Dreamer is so voodoo Chile derivative it’s a bit much.

But the rest of the album has a great combination of quirkiness and pure fire. It’s a super solid album. I particularly love Boom, Colonized, Wall of Berlin and $….

Thanks for the thread idea and giving the inspiration to revisit!
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Reply #58 posted 05/04/22 9:26am

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heartpeacesheart said:

Why are people acting like you can't discuss the 3rd album of this release? Is it because it's Bria Valenti and I don't remember what her married name is now not important. Purposely omitting something is just dumb and frankly insults the people involved with the record.


People are acting like you can't discuss it? Where?

I made it through about 3-1/2 tracks before I ejected that thing, dropped it under my bike and rolled over it.

Yes - it's that bad.

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Reply #59 posted 05/04/22 9:59am

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Genesia said:

heartpeacesheart said:

Why are people acting like you can't discuss the 3rd album of this release? Is it because it's Bria Valenti and I don't remember what her married name is now not important. Purposely omitting something is just dumb and frankly insults the people involved with the record.


People are acting like you can't discuss it? Where?

I made it through about 3-1/2 tracks before I ejected that thing, dropped it under my bike and rolled over it.

Yes - it's that bad.

I actually like "2nite".

Even bought the remix single boxed

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