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Reply #60 posted 05/11/22 12:12pm

ThatWhiteDude

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omarr posted a cryptic 11.11 on his twitter page. whatever that means.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."

Poppys, Shanon319, Number23, Kares. #lifttheban
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Reply #61 posted 05/11/22 4:00pm

johnpiex

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ThatWhiteDude said:

omarr posted a cryptic 11.11 on his twitter page. whatever that means.


Hmmm...11/11 is a Friday, and we all know which day new releases come out.

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Reply #62 posted 06/08/22 2:17am

Strollin65

It would be nice to have a definitive collection of all the music videos and live performances on DVD or Blu Ray. BET Soul aired a 5 hour block of videos and live performances yesterday. They showed 44 videos and 8 live clips. Not Even half of Prince's visual output. I'm sure fans would purchase a nice official collection to have everything in one place.
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Reply #63 posted 06/08/22 3:11am

RODSERLING

If the estate couldn't release anything else than a live that was already released multiple times, it just shows they can't release anything else this year.

There must be a legal battle that makes any new release a juridical hell.
But why Sony can't just release Crystal Ball, the NPG MC album, etc?
Let's hope they do at leadt that this year.
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Reply #64 posted 06/08/22 4:24am

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SoulAlive said:

I want a ‘Dirty Mind’ or ‘Controversy’ SDE.Come on,estate…what you waiting for?!

I am not sure they can! They can remaster but the unreleased stuff from that time period belogs to WB.

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Reply #65 posted 06/08/22 10:47am

love2thenines2
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Comerica is out of the game now.....Primary wave and lawyer Londell McMillan, who represents the other part of the siblings are in tha house......for the worst or the better.??....but it seems that SPD D&P and others projects in the same style might be so differents now in term of quality & regularity ......plans are changing .....i guess ....Future will tell if we can expect good things or bad things from that ??????

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Reply #66 posted 06/10/22 4:11pm

AvocadosMax

They should make a super duper ultra humongous deluxe opus for the audiophiles with love edition of The Dawn

1) include remastered editions (without the brickwalling) of Come, Gold Experience, Chaos

2) include the 1994 unreleased album The Dawn with the latest tracklisting he had

3) any other unreleased material from that era

4) soundboard audio of rehearsals, concerts and aftershows

5) video of rehearsals, concerts and aftershows


I mean we have the fanmade version of The Dawn and that’s amazing enough but this would be so cool.
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Reply #67 posted 06/10/22 4:13pm

AvocadosMax

AvocadosMax said:

They should make a super duper ultra humongous deluxe opus for the audiophiles with love edition of The Dawn

1) include remastered editions (without the brickwalling) of Come, Gold Experience, Chaos

2) include the 1994 unreleased album The Dawn with the latest tracklisting he had

3) any other unreleased material from that era

4) soundboard audio of rehearsals, concerts and aftershows

5) video of rehearsals, concerts and aftershows


I mean we have the fanmade version of The Dawn and that’s amazing enough but this would be so cool.


OHHHH and include earlier tracklisting of Come! (Including of course the early raw version of Endorphinmachine

And any other earlier versions of other tracks.
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Reply #68 posted 06/10/22 5:08pm

homesquid

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It's frustrating because any one of us could die today. I'm 52 I hope to have 30 years. That's gotta be a lot of Prince music. As everyone my age or older knows time seems to speed up and everyday starts to become more important. I'll be honest. If I never heard another unreleased Prince song I don't think I'd complain. What I've heard has brought me so much enjoyment I just stopped worrying about. I'm convinced beyond a reasonable doubt we have heard 99.9% of the best of Prince. That being said while I'm alive gimmie more and more until I puke. wink

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Reply #69 posted 06/10/22 11:38pm

love2thenines2
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With the current difficult situation with the Estate...the heirs..Primary Wave and MC Millan... don't expect something new (SDE) this year or even later!
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Reply #70 posted 06/11/22 8:22am

GustavoRibas

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I only hope that the only 2022 release isnt the Syracuse concert.

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Reply #71 posted 06/11/22 8:54am

LoveGalore

love2thenines2003 said:

With the current difficult situation with the Estate...the heirs..Primary Wave and MC Millan... don't expect something new (SDE) this year or even later!


Why say things like that without prefacing it with "my best guess on the scenario is..."?

The estate has only telegraphed one or two releases that fans successfully sleuthed. That's it. Two. The SDEs. That's entirely it. Nothing else on the release schedule has been predicted by anyone here.

Yet people still show up to make definitive and cryptic statements. The purpose doesn't even seem clear to me much less the accuracy.
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Reply #72 posted 06/11/22 9:55am

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LoveGalore said:

love2thenines2003 said:
With the current difficult situation with the Estate...the heirs..Primary Wave and MC Millan... don't expect something new (SDE) this year or even later!
Why say things like that without prefacing it with "my best guess on the scenario is..."? The estate has only telegraphed one or two releases that fans successfully sleuthed. That's it. Two. The SDEs. That's entirely it. Nothing else on the release schedule has been predicted by anyone here. Yet people still show up to make definitive and cryptic statements. The purpose doesn't even seem clear to me much less the accuracy.

I apologize ....ure RIGHT !!!

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Reply #73 posted 06/11/22 11:24am

OnlyNDaUsa

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So when does WB lose the rights to D&P? I would think that D&P, Parade, Purple Rainand MAYBE prince are the only others that will EVER get a big SD release.


For the othes the best we can hope for are compaion released by time period--outtakes, alternative versions, and concerts and then the albums with a 2nd CD (or 2) of the edits, remixes, and b-sides.


Looking forward: if the Aug 3 83 show is released next year as part of that dounmentary then I think it is likey to be part of a PR SD (a true one)... and we have seen clips of the June 7 84 concert, I hope that will be released too! ** didn't the orginal press relwase for the PR: Expalded set claim to have 2 concerts? (but that may have been refering to what we got as it was released in the UK on 2 VHS/BETA tapes *as was Lovesexy.


But anyway: D&P seems to be the most likely this or next year.




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Reply #74 posted 06/12/22 5:20am

JorisE73

LoveGalore said:

love2thenines2003 said:

With the current difficult situation with the Estate...the heirs..Primary Wave and MC Millan... don't expect something new (SDE) this year or even later!


Why say things like that without prefacing it with "my best guess on the scenario is..."?

The estate has only telegraphed one or two releases that fans successfully sleuthed. That's it. Two. The SDEs. That's entirely it. Nothing else on the release schedule has been predicted by anyone here.

Yet people still show up to make definitive and cryptic statements. The purpose doesn't even seem clear to me much less the accuracy.



'Here' being the keyword.
All releases and more (upcomming) things have been discussed and predicted weeks, months and even almost a year before they were officially announced, just not on here.
[Edited 6/14/22 0:08am]
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Reply #75 posted 06/12/22 7:58am

DarkHorse77

AvocadosMax said:

They should make a super duper ultra humongous deluxe opus for the audiophiles with love edition of The Dawn 1) include remastered editions (without the brickwalling) of Come, Gold Experience, Chaos 2) include the 1994 unreleased album The Dawn with the latest tracklisting he had 3) any other unreleased material from that era 4) soundboard audio of rehearsals, concerts and aftershows 5) video of rehearsals, concerts and aftershows I mean we have the fanmade version of The Dawn and that’s amazing enough but this would be so cool.

Hey! That's way too good to give us!

It actually sounds like a fantastic idea, imo. I gotta dig out that fan made version of The Dawn and enjoy all the greatness Prince was recording at the time.

"Anna Stesia come to me, talk to me, ravish me
Liberate my mind."
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Reply #76 posted 06/12/22 8:58am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

So when does WB lose the rights to D&P?


I thought they lost the rights at the end of 2020.

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Reply #77 posted 06/12/22 1:42pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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johnpiex said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


So when does WB lose the rights to D&P?




I thought they lost the rights at the end of 2020.



Then can WB even release one? And WB owns all the vault stuff from that period.
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Reply #78 posted 06/12/22 4:53pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

johnpiex said:


I thought they lost the rights at the end of 2020.

Then can WB even release one? And WB owns all the vault stuff from that period.


They can release the soundtracks.

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Reply #79 posted 06/13/22 5:27am

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the logical reason for any delays right now might be:

- the different companies working out deals with each other to release stuff going forward.

- vinyl shortage/back up at plants


once again I don't mind any delay, it's just a bit frustrating that the estate or WB or Sony
don't give us even a little bit of information as to who has which rights and how they plan
to move forward now and what that means for future releases.

but who knows, all of that may be just around the corner.

as a fan though, I keep hoping we will get another SDE release this year because it would
be so nice to have another few discs of unknown music and outtakes in better quality than
what we had until now. Be it for Parade or Diamonds & Pearls, I'll take either one right now.


"if U're lookin' 4 dirt look in Ur own back yard / plant some peace flowers in Ur warzone so I can fire my bodyguards."
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Reply #80 posted 06/13/22 5:44am

Milty2

Just go to the iTunes Store, pick a random Prince album and look at the copyright at the bottom of that listing. It'll say what record label has the license to distribute that album. Most likely the majority of the 80s and early 90s stuff will say Legacy Recordings which is Sony. Some of the 2000s stuff is Warners.

No one jump all over me but I assume that means digital rights also apply to physical rights.

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Reply #81 posted 06/13/22 8:49am

MIRvmn1

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LILpoundCAKE said:

the logical reason for any delays right now might be:

- the different companies working out deals with each other to release stuff going forward.

- vinyl shortage/back up at plants


once again I don't mind any delay, it's just a bit frustrating that the estate or WB or Sony
don't give us even a little bit of information as to who has which rights and how they plan
to move forward now and what that means for future releases.

but who knows, all of that may be just around the corner.

as a fan though, I keep hoping we will get another SDE release this year because it would
be so nice to have another few discs of unknown music and outtakes in better quality than
what we had until now. Be it for Parade or Diamonds & Pearls, I'll take either one right now.



Yes I would be nice to get some information and update from the estate but they won't tell us anything for some reason which is annoying. They probably think it's non of our business but we're the ones paying for the stuff they release. I really hope there will be a new SDE soon.
Welcome 2 The Dawn
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Reply #82 posted 06/14/22 12:33am

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JoeyCococo said:

When are they going to announce something? His passing day passed....some albums hit the 40th Anniversary....we haven't seen a release since W2A..last summer????

Anyone have any good info?



I'm just here to say that I picked up that super deluxe fancy shmancy W2A box set when someone here mentioned it was insanely on sale on Amazon and daaaaang am I happy I did. Would I have paid $100 for it? Hell no! Am I happy I picked it up for $30? Youuu betcha. It's quite nice for that price. lol The blu-ray alone was worth $30. Having the vinyl come in the box set was a huge bonus. Because as much as I love my Prince vinyl and have always tried to be a completionist about it, I'm not sure I would have picked that one up otherwise.

As far as a new super deluxe goes.... bring it. I'll keep giving the estate my cash for as long as I can. But I've given up on figuring out why they've released what they have thus far or why they don't release more. Even in death the little guy can't get his music released fast enough. You'd think somebody would have figured out at some point that we'll buy whatever you give us so long as they put a little effort into producing it. On the other hand, I'm also not complaining. We're getting things. Just not as much or as fast as we'd like. Bums me out to know that I won't be around to hear everything if they keep going at this Jimi Hendrix pace (there was still "new" Hendrix stuff just a few years ago, I believe). Somebody will get to hear it though, so that's cool.

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Reply #83 posted 06/14/22 4:11am

madison

No SDE for this year !!
I think everyone should know it by now
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Reply #84 posted 06/14/22 4:52am

LoveGalore

JorisE73 said:

LoveGalore said:



Why say things like that without prefacing it with "my best guess on the scenario is..."?

The estate has only telegraphed one or two releases that fans successfully sleuthed. That's it. Two. The SDEs. That's entirely it. Nothing else on the release schedule has been predicted by anyone here.

Yet people still show up to make definitive and cryptic statements. The purpose doesn't even seem clear to me much less the accuracy.



'Here' being the keyword.
All releases and more (upcomming) things have been discussed and predicted weeks, months and even almost a year before they were officially announced, just not on here.
[Edited 6/14/22 0:08am]


Sure and I concede that info comes out elsewhere too.

But why not add that context too? Isn't that part of a normal conversation? Non sequiturs tend to just rile people up. Everyone here is thirsty.
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Reply #85 posted 06/14/22 5:54am

JorisE73

LoveGalore said:

JorisE73 said:
'Here' being the keyword. All releases and more (upcomming) things have been discussed and predicted weeks, months and even almost a year before they were officially announced, just not on here. [Edited 6/14/22 0:08am]
Sure and I concede that info comes out elsewhere too. But why not add that context too? Isn't that part of a normal conversation? Non sequiturs tend to just rile people up. Everyone here is thirsty.


I know.
I also find it annoying these days that people don't spread the info as widely as possible and especially on here.
I used to come here for exclusive new info and now nothing gets shared here but only on private groups that get a condensed version of info that's shared fully somewhre else with a disclaimer it cant be shared anywhere else and especially not on Prince.org, by people who used to be on here alot.
After that whole Militant/Casey Rain fiasco happend people felt disgusted and left with the info because it seems nothing gets even shared here privately via orgnotes anymore by said people.

It is what it is, the knowledgable people have left here and every now and then they post a little bit of really great info and stuff to us ordinary fans somewhere else and i always check on here to see if it gets shared here, but nobody repost it here. I think this place is realy dying and all the orgers with intersting info have left here and avoid anything regarding Prince.org.

1999 SDE was unofficially announced on a private Discord server almost a year before it was officially announced and was reviewed and analyzed months before it was released.
Purple Rain Deluxe tracklist was shared on a Japanese fan site and on a Google+ site and a week later Militant/Casey Rain/Violet Reality claimed that info as his/there own.
Originals was unofficially announced or talked about with a rumoured release date and tracklist (that turned out to be true) months before it was officially announced on some non-Prince subReddit.
Parade and SOTT SDE's were detailed almost 2 years before the release of SOTT SDE.
D&P SDE
was rumoured and discussed to have been worked on months before the rumours started here.
W2A was unofficially announced and even a version of it was shared 4 months before it was officially announced.
Purple Rain Live Blu Ray was said to have been worked on weeks before the official announcement.

Same for the demo singles, I Feel FOr You and Do Me Baby (and other demos for potential releases)

The only thing really new was Piano and Mic 83 that came out of the blue.
The soundboard audio for the complete Glam Slam show that was screended at the celebration was shared to some a week before the announcement that it would be screened, that is hardly a coincidence IMO.

There have been more rumors but I'm not privy to that info and have to wait untill it reaches another place I'm on.
All this info and rumours came from a well known ex-orger.

Just saying. Its to bad Prince.org isn't what it used to be.

[Edited 6/15/22 5:58am]

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Reply #86 posted 06/14/22 6:15am

FrankieCoco1

Thanks JorisE73 for the summary, you’ve always well served us with information. Shame others have deserted the org, I for one would welcome them back, to keep Prince’s legacy ongoing.
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Reply #87 posted 06/14/22 7:37am

love2thenines2
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At this stage...no scoops to share unfortunately!
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Reply #88 posted 06/19/22 1:47am

RODSERLING

Dr Funkenberry said plans have changed.
Why am I always right?

I hope for next year they release a large part from the NPGMC.

- The instrumental News, C-Note, Xpectation
Or the albums Slaughterhouse, Chocolate Invasion

+ for Christmas 2023 the 12 NPG Ahdio Show in a CD box-set ( unlikely, since they would have to clear the rights for other artists).

Despite the new legal battle, Sony has still the right to release this, because they just went to release Gold.
They clearly want to keep their releases for the RSD exclusively. Money is better there than with a casual release.
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Reply #89 posted 06/19/22 1:52am

funkbabyandthe
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no one needs those npgmc releases to be re-released for many years.

they are well and truly minor in the context of prince's catalogue.

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