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Vannormal

Welcome 2 America, the unreleased Super Deluxe

AS I come to think of it, in the Official W2A Podcasts, there is a conversation with the engineer

Jason Agel, where he was called in to work on his first track ''Rich Friends''

which was intended for a Deluxe Edition of '20TEN' that was never released, or happened.

Was that SDE finished ?

Anyone any info on that ?

Playlist ?

(On PrinceVault there isn't much info on ''20TEN Deluxe''.)

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Official podcast W2A - Episode 3, ''The Internet is completely over''

starts from 3:10 on...

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[Edited 11/15/21 5:33am]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #1 posted 11/15/21 4:23am

Marco81

20TEN, not Welcome 2 America.

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Reply #2 posted 11/15/21 5:29am

Vannormal

Marco81 said:

20TEN, not Welcome 2 America.

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Thx.

Corrected it.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #3 posted 11/15/21 5:40am

Vannormal

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The reason why I ask this is, with "Rave In2...'' having it's "Rave Un2..."

It looks like he wanted to repeat that idea ten years later again.

As if he wanted to make (more) profit from releasing the same album twice with some extra's and extended versions, that easily could've been Maxi Singles - which were a bit out of fashion at that point.

Would that've been the case then ?

Kinda strange idea... He could've made these available through (pay for) download...

Or am I missing somthing here ?

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #4 posted 11/15/21 5:45am

billymeade

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Might have been a way to entice people to re-buy the album, as it was initially a freebie.

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Reply #5 posted 11/15/21 6:21am

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billymeade said:

Might have been a way to entice people to re-buy the album, as it was initially a freebie.



20TEN was never released in the USA, so I think the idea was to make it available for the American audience with some additional material to incentivise those in other countries who did already have a copy. Also, Prince did want to remove and replace one track on 20TEN before its release with the Daily Mirror in the UK, but it was too late in the process for the newspaper to accomodate him. So it seems that Prince was still tinkering with the album or not entirely satisfied with it in some way, hence perhaps, his interest in an expanded edition.

Regardless, Warner Bros refused the project and Prince moved on. It would make a nice and logical release now though since Prince had already approved and pitched the album and it is missing a US release.
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Reply #6 posted 11/15/21 7:51am

Marco81

OperatingThetan said:

billymeade said:

Might have been a way to entice people to re-buy the album, as it was initially a freebie.

20TEN was never released in the USA, so I think the idea was to make it available for the American audience with some additional material to incentivise those in other countries who did already have a copy. Also, Prince did want to remove and replace one track on 20TEN before its release with the Daily Mirror in the UK, but it was too late in the process for the newspaper to accomodate him. So it seems that Prince was still tinkering with the album or not entirely satisfied with it in some way, hence perhaps, his interest in an expanded edition. Regardless, Warner Bros refused the project and Prince moved on. It would make a nice and logical release now though since Prince had already approved and pitched the album and it is missing a US release.

Source for the bit about Prince wanting to replace one track from the configuration?

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Reply #7 posted 11/15/21 7:58am

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Marco81 said:



OperatingThetan said:


billymeade said:

Might have been a way to entice people to re-buy the album, as it was initially a freebie.



20TEN was never released in the USA, so I think the idea was to make it available for the American audience with some additional material to incentivise those in other countries who did already have a copy. Also, Prince did want to remove and replace one track on 20TEN before its release with the Daily Mirror in the UK, but it was too late in the process for the newspaper to accomodate him. So it seems that Prince was still tinkering with the album or not entirely satisfied with it in some way, hence perhaps, his interest in an expanded edition. Regardless, Warner Bros refused the project and Prince moved on. It would make a nice and logical release now though since Prince had already approved and pitched the album and it is missing a US release.

Source for the bit about Prince wanting to replace one track from the configuration?



https://prince.org/msg/7/424565

I'll also try to find the article in question. This quote makes it sound like Prince wanted to scrap the entire album, but I recall reading that it concerned one track, that has never been named to my recollection.
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Reply #8 posted 11/15/21 11:15am

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If I recall correctly, in the Peach & Black podcast where they told the story of their meeting with Prince in New York, the subject of 20Ten Deluxe came up, but I don't think they got much more info on it.

Also, if I recall correctly, at one point Prince offered to play some music for them in his car, but they declined (can't remember why). That might have been 20Ten Deluxe... or I might be conflating two different anecdotes.


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Reply #9 posted 11/18/21 7:35am

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I loathe "Rich Friends", so I'm glad it's nowhwere near 20Ten, which I adore.

"Everybody Loves Me" is also a bit of a groaner, but at least there are some cool Linn/New Wave sounds in that one.

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Reply #10 posted 11/18/21 10:13am

nayroo2002

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Se7en said:

"Everybody Loves Me" is also a bit of a groaner, but at least there are some cool Linn/New Wave sounds in that one.

It's for the kids, right?

Like the theme song at a 5-year-old's birthday party biggrin

In that perspective, my daughter loved it when it came out back then in 2010 lol

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #11 posted 11/18/21 12:46pm

Vannormal

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Although i have a weak spot for 20TEN, i still think he didn't wrote his best songs for that album.

Sorry guys.

But the fact that he really wanted it to be re-released as a SD package, I really don't understand.

For a package he tried already 10 years before.

It would just be interesting to know what the tracklist was/is, just to have a better look/idea at it.

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Both Xtra trakcs ''Rich friends'' & ''Everybody Likes Me'' aren't even worth a SD package imho - too weak i believe, as if they were written to give away to others.

And then he did not release ''Welcome 2 America'' in the same year?

And album that is stronger than 20ten, no ?

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