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Reply #30 posted 11/16/21 10:08am

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Prince has such a ridiculously pretentious fanbase, and I absolutely love it.

So true. And also always very unsatisfied.

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Reply #31 posted 11/17/21 5:41am

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I believe Petty was sincere in his respect for Prince and confidence that Prince would pull something off. But I think Petty was embellishing a bit and trying to justify Prince's involvedment when he claimed: "Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George." I don't know where he got that idea, unless Prince said if offhandedly to the group to ease their anixety about his inclusion. I know there's been lots of debate here about whether Wendy & Lisa introduced the Beatles to Prince or how much, if any, influence they had on ATWID, but regardless, it's a stretch to suggest Prince was a major George Harrison fan. If he had been, he certainly would have mention it more often.

You´re correct about Prince not mentioning the Beatles very often during his career , and many fans believe the story that it was Wendy and Lisa who introduced Prince to the Beatles´ music but there´s a part in Morris Day´s biography where he says that they would listen to the Beatles quite often during their teenage years, so I doubt the part about Wendy and Lisa.

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...which says nothing about the fact that they could've let him listen to The Beatles again too.

Sometimes a friend lets me (re-)discover something in what i already heard a zillion times.

So far your assumption of doubting W&L...

We were not there, none of us was.

peace though. smile

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #32 posted 11/17/21 5:42am

Vannormal

Milty2 said:

TraSoul82 said:

Prince has such a ridiculously pretentious fanbase, and I absolutely love it.

So true. And also always very unsatisfied.

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...which can hardly be said of a M.Jackson or Whitney H. fanbase, or any other

just sayin' wink

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #33 posted 11/17/21 6:26am

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Vannormal said:

KoolEaze said:

You´re correct about Prince not mentioning the Beatles very often during his career , and many fans believe the story that it was Wendy and Lisa who introduced Prince to the Beatles´ music but there´s a part in Morris Day´s biography where he says that they would listen to the Beatles quite often during their teenage years, so I doubt the part about Wendy and Lisa.

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...which says nothing about the fact that they could've let him listen to The Beatles again too.

Sometimes a friend lets me (re-)discover something in what i already heard a zillion times.

So far your assumption of doubting W&L...

We were not there, none of us was.

peace though. smile

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Prince grew up in the one of the midwest in the 60's and 70's. Without a doubt he would have listened to The Beatles during that time. He didn't live in a bubble.

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Reply #34 posted 11/17/21 6:47am

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Vannormal said:




KoolEaze said:


You´re correct about Prince not mentioning the Beatles very often during his career , and many fans believe the story that it was Wendy and Lisa who introduced Prince to the Beatles´ music but there´s a part in Morris Day´s biography where he says that they would listen to the Beatles quite often during their teenage years, so I doubt the part about Wendy and Lisa.



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...which says nothing about the fact that they could've let him listen to The Beatles again too.


Sometimes a friend lets me (re-)discover something in what i already heard a zillion times.


So far your assumption of doubting W&L...


We were not there, none of us was.


peace though. smile


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Prince grew up in the one of the midwest in the 60's and 70's. Without a doubt he would have listened to The Beatles during that time. He didn't live in a bubble.



Unfortunately, according to some of the patronizing org brigade, Prince has no agency or independent musical development. Everything that’s deemed positive in his music is somehow always accredited to a band member, every artists he could’ve drawn inspiration from wouldn’t be in his radar had he not been introduced to that the same band member.

It’s like there’s resistance from these folks to give him the credit for doing the work to teach himself or come out with something on his own, and when they do, it’s begrudgingly. It makes me wonder, do these people think his whole career was an accident? I also can’t help but to wonder, would he be looked at with the same condescending & racist view had he been white?
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Reply #35 posted 11/17/21 7:04am

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Dhani Harrison was fanboying out that whole performance. He's probably a bit embarrassed he was caught on camera in every shot pulling the face every last one of us would have if we were in his position. I liked this interview! This was one of my fave prince performances as Dhani was there on stage not trying to act cool but representing how we ALL reacted when prince was playing in front of us. He and Prince made this tribute so memorable. Together.
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Reply #36 posted 11/17/21 12:52pm

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Vannormal said:

KoolEaze said:

You´re correct about Prince not mentioning the Beatles very often during his career , and many fans believe the story that it was Wendy and Lisa who introduced Prince to the Beatles´ music but there´s a part in Morris Day´s biography where he says that they would listen to the Beatles quite often during their teenage years, so I doubt the part about Wendy and Lisa.

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...which says nothing about the fact that they could've let him listen to The Beatles again too.

Sometimes a friend lets me (re-)discover something in what i already heard a zillion times.

So far your assumption of doubting W&L...

We were not there, none of us was.

peace though. smile

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No, we weren´t. But Morris and André were.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #37 posted 11/17/21 2:06pm

TraSoul82

Vannormal said:



Milty2 said:




TraSoul82 said:


Prince has such a ridiculously pretentious fanbase, and I absolutely love it.


So true. And also always very unsatisfied.



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...which can hardly be said of a M.Jackson or Whitney H. fanbase, or any other


just sayin' wink


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I'm unaware of Whitney fans' general attitude. But Michael's fanbase is something special. They WORSHIP Michael while blindly giving him credit for things he clearly lacks the music ability to accomplish. I'm willing to bet at least 70% wouldn't know who Quincy Jones is. I could go on, but I digress.

Now PRINCE fans... generally have a more diverse musical library and an understand more of what's actually required for a song to be completed.

But to say that Prince's infamous HoF solo was somehow over the top? Bruh... P literally wore a thong, high heels, and a bandana, WITH NOTHING ELSE ON, while LICKING the neck of his guitar and simulating "self-pleasure" (to be polite).... That's how he put himself on the map of mainstream music. It's comically ridiculous. But it's part of the charm of this fanbase. P was far from perfect, infamously pursuing multiple young muses in a sexual manner, while dropping pompous tracks like "Animal Kingdom" and banning meat from inside of Paisley Park.

It's just an interesting dichotomy that lives on through his fanbase. It's interesting, to say the least.
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Reply #38 posted 11/17/21 3:00pm

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TraSoul82 said:

Vannormal said:



Milty2 said:




TraSoul82 said:


Prince has such a ridiculously pretentious fanbase, and I absolutely love it.


So true. And also always very unsatisfied.



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...which can hardly be said of a M.Jackson or Whitney H. fanbase, or any other


just sayin' wink


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I'm unaware of Whitney fans' general attitude. But Michael's fanbase is something special. They WORSHIP Michael while blindly giving him credit for things he clearly lacks the music ability to accomplish. I'm willing to bet at least 70% wouldn't know who Quincy Jones is. I could go on, but I digress.

Now PRINCE fans... generally have a more diverse musical library and an understand more of what's actually required for a song to be completed.

But to say that Prince's infamous HoF solo was somehow over the top? Bruh... P literally wore a thong, high heels, and a bandana, WITH NOTHING ELSE ON, while LICKING the neck of his guitar and simulating "self-pleasure" (to be polite).... That's how he put himself on the map of mainstream music. It's comically ridiculous. But it's part of the charm of this fanbase. P was far from perfect, infamously pursuing multiple young muses in a sexual manner, while dropping pompous tracks like "Animal Kingdom" and banning meat from inside of Paisley Park.

It's just an interesting dichotomy that lives on through his fanbase. It's interesting, to say the least.
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If Prince didn't do what he did we would not discuss that video today .
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Reply #39 posted 11/18/21 10:12am

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If the article was less clickbait-y, it could've just been named "Prince is a bit shy around people he doesn't know very well" because that's basically all the 'tension' the article says there was.

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Reply #40 posted 11/19/21 7:47am

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Milty2 said:

TraSoul82 said:

Prince has such a ridiculously pretentious fanbase, and I absolutely love it.

So true. And also always very unsatisfied.


Prince, true to the showbiz accumen, always left us wanting more.

And also, this thread title and headline are misleading. The story doesn't really imply that Prince personally or intentionally "created tension" himself or through his actions. More like: it was a tense situation because they hadn't worked out the details and shit behind the final performance of the night.


So weird how often people try to make what turned out to be a magical night and a legendary performance into something negative or paint Dahni (or Prince) in a bad light. Reading this article, it just comes off as "normal showbiz live performance tension" than anything and that folks were rightfully nervous. Not a clash of egos or anything.

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Reply #41 posted 11/23/21 7:47am

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thebanishedone said:

TraSoul82 said:
I'm unaware of Whitney fans' general attitude. But Michael's fanbase is something special. They WORSHIP Michael while blindly giving him credit for things he clearly lacks the music ability to accomplish. I'm willing to bet at least 70% wouldn't know who Quincy Jones is. I could go on, but I digress. Now PRINCE fans... generally have a more diverse musical library and an understand more of what's actually required for a song to be completed. But to say that Prince's infamous HoF solo was somehow over the top? Bruh... P literally wore a thong, high heels, and a bandana, WITH NOTHING ELSE ON, while LICKING the neck of his guitar and simulating "self-pleasure" (to be polite).... That's how he put himself on the map of mainstream music. It's comically ridiculous. But it's part of the charm of this fanbase. P was far from perfect, infamously pursuing multiple young muses in a sexual manner, while dropping pompous tracks like "Animal Kingdom" and banning meat from inside of Paisley Park. It's just an interesting dichotomy that lives on through his fanbase. It's interesting, to say the least. [Edited 11/17/21 14:07pm]
If Prince didn't do what he did we would not discuss that video today .


I played that video just last week. It's very ho-hum until the Prince solo. We absolutely would not be discussing that video today if not for Prince.

Something about Petty/Lynne/Winwood/Harrison is just a bit vanilla. Each one of them is super-talented, but the delivery seemed a bit dull.

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Reply #42 posted 11/23/21 1:41pm

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jeff lynn managed to make the beatles sound boring so maybe that is who put everyone to sleep until p showed up and blew the roof off

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Reply #43 posted 11/23/21 7:59pm

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Laughing at the choads that are calling that solo 'overrated.'

The hubris displayed from people who couldn't tune a guitar by ear if they had a gun to their head.

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Reply #44 posted 11/24/21 5:29am

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Milty2 said:

TraSoul82 said:

Prince has such a ridiculously pretentious fanbase, and I absolutely love it.

So true. And also always very unsatisfied.


And so we should be. When he tries to wreck the song Hot Summer with a silly percussive sound at the end of every chorus (played twice each time, in case you couldn't believe your ears the first instance). Or when he nearly ruined the genius Cosmic Day with that silly Trololo vocal. Who cares, he's still the greatest. smile


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - this is where all religions fall down.
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Reply #45 posted 11/24/21 9:17am

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rolleyes

That solo is so overrated it's embarrasing as a Prince fan

irionic the number of working and prolific musicians who think its amazing. But what do they know, right?

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Reply #46 posted 11/24/21 1:43pm

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Zannaloaf said:

homesquid said:

rolleyes

That solo is so overrated it's embarrasing as a Prince fan

irionic the number of working and prolific musicians who think its amazing. But what do they know, right?


It's come full circle; from amazing, shocking and astonishing to the mainstream embracing it so now it's cool and hip to kind of shit on it.


Music snobs, man. They're the worst.

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Reply #47 posted 11/24/21 2:26pm

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That’s the thing though, he’s still not embraced as a guitarist by the mainstream. You’ll hear about the same four guitarists over & over by mainstream publications & so called music historians, and none of these fours is named Prince. There are still people coming out the woodwork saying stuff like “I didn’t know Prince played guitar”.

It’s totally fine to say that you don’t like his playing, that’s fair and a matter of taste (SHITTY taste, but I digress razz). However, to to say he’s an overrated guitarist, is just a dumb ass & a simple minded lie, has nothing to do with music snobbery & has everything to do with delusion (“look at meeee, I’m being a contrarian for the hell of it”).
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Reply #48 posted 11/25/21 4:49am

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Hamad said:

That’s the thing though, he’s still not embraced as a guitarist by the mainstream. You’ll hear about the same four guitarists over & over by mainstream publications & so called music historians, and none of these fours is named Prince. There are still people coming out the woodwork saying stuff like “I didn’t know Prince played guitar”. It’s totally fine to say that you don’t like his playing, that’s fair and a matter of taste (SHITTY taste, but I digress razz). However, to to say he’s an overrated guitarist, is just a dumb ass & a simple minded lie, has nothing to do with music snobbery & has everything to do with delusion (“look at meeee, I’m being a contrarian for the hell of it”).


I think those 2 things kind of go hand in hand

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