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Reply #30 posted 11/24/21 6:54am

PDogz

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Hamad said:

Larry had a record back in the mid-70s talking about that, “men dressing like women, women dressing like men”, how it’s all a political conspiracy, I can’t remember the title, funky little ditty.

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Track #3 "Mirror" on Graham Central Station's 1978 album by the same name?

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"I see a jacked-up world,

With freaky boys and girls

Men going with men

And women going with girls

You've got to change your ways, my friend

If you want to survive"

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Reply #31 posted 11/24/21 1:45pm

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PDogz said:

Hamad said:

Larry had a record back in the mid-70s talking about that, “men dressing like women, women dressing like men”, how it’s all a political conspiracy, I can’t remember the title, funky little ditty.

.

Track #3 "Mirror" on Graham Central Station's 1978 album by the same name?

.

"I see a jacked-up world,

With freaky boys and girls

Men going with men

And women going with girls

You've got to change your ways, my friend

If you want to survive"


Yeah, fuck all that pretensious noise. I like Larry as a bass player but he can go ahead and miss me with the rest of his bullshit.

I think he befriended Prince at his most vulnerable and I don't think it's any coincidence that Prince went through his most hardcore religious period right around the death of his:

Son
Marriage
Mother
Father


IN such rapid succesion. I can speak from experience that a 1, 2, 3 (and 4) punch like that can make you empty and searching for things to fill the void. Someone comes along and says that all the answers are in Some Book and couples it with a lot of double speak can really hook, reel in and land a lonely mark.

I don't mean to shit on Larry or Prince's friendship with him. Prince seemed to really love him and I'm sure he needed somebody. I'm just skeptical of people selling answers that have homophobia as one of its central tenents, along with several other dubious assertions.

[Edited 11/24/21 13:55pm]

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Reply #32 posted 11/25/21 7:15am

Milty2

herb4 said:

PDogz said:

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Track #3 "Mirror" on Graham Central Station's 1978 album by the same name?

.

"I see a jacked-up world,

With freaky boys and girls

Men going with men

And women going with girls

You've got to change your ways, my friend

If you want to survive"



I think he befriended Prince at his most vulnerable and I don't think it's any coincidence that Prince went through his most hardcore religious period right around the death of his:

Son
Marriage
Mother
Father

Hmmm...I never really thought of that. Good point.

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Reply #33 posted 11/25/21 10:10am

Hamad

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herb4 said:



PDogz said:




Hamad said:


Larry had a record back in the mid-70s talking about that, “men dressing like women, women dressing like men”, how it’s all a political conspiracy, I can’t remember the title, funky little ditty.


.


Track #3 "Mirror" on Graham Central Station's 1978 album by the same name?


.


"I see a jacked-up world,


With freaky boys and girls


Men going with men


And women going with girls


You've got to change your ways, my friend


If you want to survive"





Yeah, fuck all that pretensious noise. I like Larry as a bass player but he can go ahead and miss me with the rest of his bullshit.

I think he befriended Prince at his most vulnerable and I don't think it's any coincidence that Prince went through his most hardcore religious period right around the death of his:

Son
Marriage
Mother
Father


IN such rapid succesion. I can speak from experience that a 1, 2, 3 (and 4) punch like that can make you empty and searching for things to fill the void. Someone comes along and says that all the answers are in Some Book and couples it with a lot of double speak can really hook, reel in and land a lonely mark.

I don't mean to shit on Larry or Prince's friendship with him. Prince seemed to really love him and I'm sure he needed somebody. I'm just skeptical of people selling answers that have homophobia as one of its central tenents, along with several other dubious assertions.

[Edited 11/24/21 13:55pm]



Agreed.

Grief can lure you into a certain situation, ideal or otherwise. But I don’t wanna rob Prince of his agency and lay the blame entirely on Larry, I think they mirror each other’s views in a lot of ways, even before they met. Prince has always been a conservative person in his personal views even when he made those raunchy songs, according to the people who worked with him. It was inevitable for someone to encourage that side of him to appear more, that someone happens to be Larry.

Unfortunately it’s one of the complex factors some of us have to navigate through as fans, I feel conflicted & personally hurt when I hear those views because I’m a gay man myself, but I have to accept that as the uncomfortable truth in order to enjoy his music as a whole.
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Reply #34 posted 11/25/21 1:06pm

Wolfie87

Hamad said:

herb4 said:



PDogz said:




Hamad said:


Larry had a record back in the mid-70s talking about that, “men dressing like women, women dressing like men”, how it’s all a political conspiracy, I can’t remember the title, funky little ditty.


.


Track #3 "Mirror" on Graham Central Station's 1978 album by the same name?


.


"I see a jacked-up world,


With freaky boys and girls


Men going with men


And women going with girls


You've got to change your ways, my friend


If you want to survive"





Yeah, fuck all that pretensious noise. I like Larry as a bass player but he can go ahead and miss me with the rest of his bullshit.

I think he befriended Prince at his most vulnerable and I don't think it's any coincidence that Prince went through his most hardcore religious period right around the death of his:

Son
Marriage
Mother
Father


IN such rapid succesion. I can speak from experience that a 1, 2, 3 (and 4) punch like that can make you empty and searching for things to fill the void. Someone comes along and says that all the answers are in Some Book and couples it with a lot of double speak can really hook, reel in and land a lonely mark.

I don't mean to shit on Larry or Prince's friendship with him. Prince seemed to really love him and I'm sure he needed somebody. I'm just skeptical of people selling answers that have homophobia as one of its central tenents, along with several other dubious assertions.

[Edited 11/24/21 13:55pm]



Agreed.

Grief can lure you into a certain situation, ideal or otherwise. But I don’t wanna rob Prince of his agency and lay the blame entirely on Larry, I think they mirror each other’s views in a lot of ways, even before they met. Prince has always been a conservative person in his personal views even when he made those raunchy songs, according to the people who worked with him. It was inevitable for someone to encourage that side of him to appear more, that someone happens to be Larry.

Unfortunately it’s one of the complex factors some of us have to navigate through as fans, I feel conflicted & personally hurt when I hear those views because I’m a gay man myself, but I have to accept that as the uncomfortable truth in order to enjoy his music as a whole.


Conservative is actually true. To quote the speaking part before TBO Syracuse 1985 "There is only one Lord, Jesus". What ARE you talking about Prince?
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Reply #35 posted 11/25/21 1:20pm

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Hey that’s his own truth smile can’t say it’s a unique view though, but it’s his & it never personally bothered me, even though I’m not Christian.

There are many spiritual themes that appear in his music, which many Christians & JWs for that matter, would deem sacrilegious. I happen to appreciate those contradictions, because they made him to be the human being many of us are too, beings with curiosity and hunger for knowledge.
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