TwiliteKid said:

LoveGalore said:

So, what's the argument here again? There's "we only know the title" examples in Soladeo's speculative list too. And the list of songs above... half of those had leaked, a quarter we knew only a title, and a quarter we could guess existed because he did guide vocals for everything.

Yep - the only completely unknown track was "It B's Like That Sometimes".

Exactly!

TwiliteKid said:

LoveGalore said:

So, what's the argument here again? There's "we only know the title" examples in Soladeo's speculative list too. And the list of songs above... half of those had leaked, a quarter we knew only a title, and a quarter we could guess existed because he did guide vocals for everything.

Yep - the only completely unknown track was "It B's Like That Sometimes".

Wasn't the original LOVE & SEX a total surprise??

soladeo1 said:

TwiliteKid said:

Yep - the only completely unknown track was "It B's Like That Sometimes".

Wasn't the original LOVE & SEX a total surprise??

We didn't know it would be so different from Sheila's version, but we knew it existed.

LoveGalore said:

ufoclub said:

But they hadn't surfaced on boots even in insider networks. Certainly closer to the official release, things leaked.

In many cases, only the titles were known.

So, what's the argument here again? There's "we only know the title" examples in Soladeo's speculative list too. And the list of songs above... half of those had leaked, a quarter we knew only a title, and a quarter we could guess existed because he did guide vocals for everything.

The arguement is that these releases HAVE had many completely fresh outtakes on them to 99% of Prince fanatics. And most likely, a D&P set would too.

Well, they just posted some basic anniversary message, so I don’t think this is happening…

From some feedbacks i heard or smelt these past hours ....this is not happening this year ...always hopes but ?

BartVanHemelen said:

SirPussalot said:

schoolyard aint making the cut is it

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Which would be crazy since that was the original album title for D&P.

i didnt know that ..however the content hasnt aged well and wasnt exactly kul wbw

SirPussalot said:

A man talking about an experience he had as a teenager is pretty okay.

LoveGalore said:

SirPussalot said:

i didnt know that ..however the content hasnt aged well and wasnt exactly kul wbw

A man talking about an experience he had as a teenager is pretty okay.

ordinarily yep:but i am sure you can think of instances where its not ok

not sure this fall into that catergory ; am sure it will be perceived as doin so

its hardly cryptic unless you think its paean to the kitchen towel and glove industry

SirPussalot said:

I think folks just have PTSD about Lust U Always and Extraloveable. Schoolyard is not the same at all.

LoveGalore said:

SirPussalot said:

i didnt know that ..however the content hasnt aged well and wasnt exactly kul wbw

A man talking about an experience he had as a teenager is pretty okay.

maybe, but it's a different story when said man was still dating teenagers while in his late 20's/early 30's. just saying...

mbdtyler said:

LoveGalore said:

SirPussalot said: A man talking about an experience he had as a teenager is pretty okay.

maybe, but it's a different story when said man was still dating teenagers while in his late 20's/early 30's. just saying...

Nah it isn't a different story. It's the same story regardless of what other sexual conquests the person went on to have.

LoveGalore said:

mbdtyler said:

maybe, but it's a different story when said man was still dating teenagers while in his late 20's/early 30's. just saying...

Nah it isn't a different story. It's the same story regardless of what other sexual conquests the person went on to have.

Not really. A 30-something year old dude singing about his teenage sexual conquests becomes creepier in the context of him pursuing girls around that age range well over a decade later.

'Schoolyard' is an inconsequential song likely to be misinterpreted in the current climate. Songs like 'Open Book', 'Get Blue' and 'Player' are where it's really at.

mbdtyler said:

It's the same story no matter what happened after. And it's one most people can relate to, lmao. Of any generation.

According to Michael Bland in this interview with the Current, the Prince Estate definitely are working on a reissue of the Diamonds and Pearls album.

A full transcript appears under the video, for those of you who would rather read than listen:

https://www.thecurrent.or...56qDNkXeLA

OperatingThetan said:

I don’t think anyone doubts that it’s coming, but after the Estate’s cryptic post yesterday, we assumed it would be announced today.

TwiliteKid said:

OperatingThetan said:

According to Michael Bland in this interview with the Current, the Prince Estate definitely are working on a reissue of the Diamonds and Pearls album. A full transcript appears under the video, for those of you who would rather read than listen: https://www.thecurrent.or...56qDNkXeLA

I don’t think anyone doubts that it’s coming, but after the Estate’s cryptic post yesterday, we assumed it would be announced today.

Sure, but this is the first public mention of it.

TwiliteKid said:

So did I, but glad to know there's been some credible information that it's actually being worked on. Shame if they miss the boat for the 30th anniversary though.

soladeo1 said:

Album #2: Gett Off Maxi Single Remaster

1. Gett Off (Single Remix)

2. Gett Off (Houstyle)

3. Violet The Organ Grinder

4. Gett Off (Flustestramental)

5. Gangster Glam

6. Clockin' The Jizz (Instrumental)

7. Gett Off (Extended Remix)

Album #4: Gett Off, Etc.

1. Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Minutes) 2
2. Gett Off (Flutestramental) #2
3. Gett Off (Rosie’s Dub)
4. Gett Off (Single Remix)
5. Gett Off(Single Remix)
6. Gett Off (Thrust Edit)
7. Gett Off (Thrust Mix)
8. Gett Off (Urge Single Edit)
9. Gett Off (Urge Dub)
10. Gett Off’s Cousin
11. Horny Pony

I like Gett Off, and I understand the completist mentality to have all versions collected in this volume... but with that said, I personally don't need 15 versions of one song.

Where are the trolls that kept on saying I was wrong when I announced 6 months ago there wouldn't be neither Crystal Ball nor D&P this year?

These trolls that kept on insulting me for just saying that?

Well, the laugh is now on them all.

lurker316 said:

You really think Sony/The estate care about your wish😂🤣
You will get 2 or 3 LPs of Gett Off Remixes, and you will buy it.

OperatingThetan said:

According to Michael Bland in this interview with the Current, the Prince Estate definitely are working on a reissue of the Diamonds and Pearls album. A full transcript appears under the video, for those of you who would rather read than listen: https://www.thecurrent.or...56qDNkXeLA

I think every member of the Org should be required to read or listen to this interview. Not because I care about Diamonds & Pearls (I don't). But for the conversation between Michael and Tommy about their conflicting memories.

There have been countless times I've read stories on the Org where two Prince associates give different details about a songs recording. The assumption here is always that one of them is *lying*. I'm not talking about the times when former associates give themselves more credit for the creation of a song (they may indeed have motivate to misstate things). I'm talking about the times people are merely describing neutral events. They're not trying to make themselves look better -- they simply have different stoies.

I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. Memory is incredibly failable. You're asking people about stuff that happened decades ago. Not only that, but with Prince's hectic recording style, of course memories would blend together and get confused. Michael and Tommy make this crystal clear.

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Am I the only one absolutly NOT looking forward for this package ?

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Vannormal said:

If you are going on that thread, well, you are.

That Tommy B, Michael B interview was one of the best I’ve seen from any associates.

Despite this being my least favourite era, their honesty is so refreshing. Not a hint of ego. The Tommy B story about ‘Old Friends 4 Sale’ and Michael’s addressing the ‘hip-hop’ question is wonderful to hear.

There’s so much to learn here about Prince and his ways of working. And I’ve read nearly every book and read most of the epic threads here on the org.

lurker316 said:

OperatingThetan said:

According to Michael Bland in this interview with the Current, the Prince Estate definitely are working on a reissue of the Diamonds and Pearls album. A full transcript appears under the video, for those of you who would rather read than listen: https://www.thecurrent.or...56qDNkXeLA

I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. Memory is incredibly failable. You're asking people about stuff that happened decades ago. Not only that, but with Prince's hectic recording style, of course memories would blend together and get confused. Michael and Tommy make this crystal clear.

Not only memory but the lack of studio documents. Duane Tudahl has made great use of the Sunset Sound archival documents to give us detailed timelines.
But, when Prince was recording worldwide, did anyone keep "carbons" of those documents for Paisley's auditing purposes? What kind of documeentation was maintained for Paisley's studios (besides writing song titles on canisters).

Even in Tudahl's latest book there are memory conflicts in what certain people told Duane and what they said in previous interviews (primarily Susannah).

The studio documents with their dates, times and personnel are the best way to jog memories of things that occured 30+ years ago. I hope there's something to continue the archival records into some semblance of continuity.

laytonian said:

lurker316 said:

I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. Memory is incredibly failable. You're asking people about stuff that happened decades ago. Not only that, but with Prince's hectic recording style, of course memories would blend together and get confused. Michael and Tommy make this crystal clear.

Not only memory but the lack of studio documents. Duane Tudahl has made great use of the Sunset Sound archival documents to give us detailed timelines.
But, when Prince was recording worldwide, did anyone keep "carbons" of those documents for Paisley's auditing purposes? What kind of documeentation was maintained for Paisley's studios (besides writing song titles on canisters).

Even in Tudahl's latest book there are memory conflicts in what certain people told Duane and what they said in previous interviews (primarily Susannah).

The studio documents with their dates, times and personnel are the best way to jog memories of things that occured 30+ years ago. I hope there's something to continue the archival records into some semblance of continuity.

I think, if nothing else, tapes have a date. But as long as the Estate will go on with this nonsense about NDA's and keeping the results of their inventory secret, that information is lost. We also know for a fact that some musicians kept logs about the sessions they attended, that some of them were pleased to share with researchers.

Vannormal said:

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Am I the only one absolutly NOT looking forward for this package ?

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nope, I'm with you