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Reply #180 posted 10/13/21 4:11pm

PJMcGee

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Se7en said:



PJMcGee said:


What radio station played -- or is STILL playing?! -- Money Don't Matter? I don't think I ever heard that most boring of all Prince songs on the radio.


I never "loved" the song either, but it's fine in the context of the album.

They gave this one a lot of attention, with a Spike Lee video (weren't there two videos?). Maybe it was topical for the Desert-Storm era?



Yeah the video got attention because of Spike (even though it only consisted of news clips, if memory serves). I just don't remember the song getting on the radio.
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Reply #181 posted 10/13/21 6:11pm

RODSERLING

MDM2N was a huge hit radio in France.
I was 6 years old in 1992 I thought it was Lionel Richie at the time smile

It was also broadcasted a lot in the background sound of many french tv programs, until at least the Early 2000's.
It's a classic, especially when you think it was "just" A 5th single, it charted very well worldwide, but had far better airplay than its ranking sales.
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Reply #182 posted 10/13/21 6:15pm

RODSERLING

JAYJOE said:

The estate is now posting about the 40th anniversary of controversy.....
Maybe that's just something they doing now... hope I'm wrong and last weeks multiple d&p posts were a warm up for an announcement this week



I warned you all about that...
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Reply #183 posted 10/13/21 6:18pm

RODSERLING

PJMcGee said:

What radio station played -- or is STILL playing?! -- Money Don't Matter? I don't think I ever heard that most boring of all Prince songs on the radio.


In the US, MDM2N was #14 on rnb airplay at the time of release, and #27 in airplay overall.
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Reply #184 posted 10/14/21 1:28am

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PJMcGee said:

What radio station played -- or is STILL playing?! -- Money Don't Matter? I don't think I ever heard that most boring of all Prince songs on the radio.

Still heard it on the radio last week but it was a station aimed at 80s and 90s music.

The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy.
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Reply #185 posted 10/14/21 3:45am

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Diamonds and Pearls was my first Prince album and Thunder the first song that blew me away. One person did everything on one song? How?

Looking back on it now though I think this was the beginning of the end for Prince as a recording artist at the cutting edge of experimentation and commercial success.

Graffiti Bridge bombed despite some excellent experimental pop (Elephants and Flowers, NPG)- it had too many filler songs.

D&P was Prince plumbing the Pop depths without purpose or conviction.

    Cream is essentially a blatant T Rex knock off
    Push and Jughead featuring the 'not avant garde at all" Toni M, was Prince basically saying "I don't know what makes hip hop tick but here's some anyway"
    Insatiable is a rerecording of Scandalous
    Live 4 Love was probably conceived and recorded as a parody for fun
    Daddy Pop is OK but forgettable.
    Willing and Able is ruined by a rap...not for the first time or the last


Get Off was the one new sound on the album while other standouts like Walk Don't Walk, and Strollin were ignored.

Even Thunder when re listened to is overwrought to the detriment of its rhythmic excellence.

This is the album where we confirm what Graffiti Bridge had started to show: for Prince quantity, overindulgence and lyrics would Lord it over melody, hook, harmony rhythm, discipline and quality forevermore.
[Edited 10/14/21 3:46am]
[Edited 10/14/21 3:47am]
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Reply #186 posted 10/14/21 4:33am

LoveGalore

Tony's verse on W&A is probably the only time I actually like his rapping. Fits the song well. It's a band song and Prince always shared vocals on band stuff so idk what all the drama is about with this record. There's two blatantly corny songs in Push and Jughead. The rest are fantastic.

Live 4 Love is a scorcher.
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Reply #187 posted 10/14/21 5:47am

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zobilamouche said:



PJMcGee said:


What radio station played -- or is STILL playing?! -- Money Don't Matter? I don't think I ever heard that most boring of all Prince songs on the radio.

Still heard it on the radio last week but it was a station aimed at 80s and 90s music.



Are you also in France?
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Reply #188 posted 10/14/21 5:52am

PJMcGee

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LoveGalore said:

Tony's verse on W&A is probably the only time I actually like his rapping. Fits the song well. It's a band song and Prince always shared vocals on band stuff so idk what all the drama is about with this record. There's two blatantly corny songs in Push and Jughead. The rest are fantastic.

Live 4 Love is a scorcher.


Yep. I think it helps that it sounds like he's rapping through a phone line or something. His big, booming voice usually sounds kinda dopey.
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Reply #189 posted 10/14/21 9:58am

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Anyone else think the bassline on cream is like groove is in the heart by Dee lite?
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Reply #190 posted 10/14/21 10:11am

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LoveGalore said:

Tony's verse on W&A is probably the only time I actually like his rapping. Fits the song well.


"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #191 posted 10/14/21 12:15pm

LoveGalore

TrivialPursuit said:



LoveGalore said:


Tony's verse on W&A is probably the only time I actually like his rapping. Fits the song well.




Step back before I swing a- oooohh axe, baby!!!
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Reply #192 posted 10/14/21 10:12pm

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PJMcGee said:

zobilamouche said:

Still heard it on the radio last week but it was a station aimed at 80s and 90s music.

Are you also in France?

Close... Belgium.

The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy.
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Reply #193 posted 10/15/21 12:09am

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Take a good note that the Do Me Baby single was announced 3 months before the actual release. And it's just a single...

So I guess D&P won't be announced until that release, that is to say late January 😂, t for an april/ may release at the soonest.

Then a RSD in july for a very rare album, such as The Undertaker or Chocolate Invasion.
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Reply #194 posted 10/15/21 6:48am

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RODSERLING said:

Then a RSD in july for a very rare album, such as The Undertaker or Chocolate Invasion.

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Undertaker has been b00tl3gg3d to death from copies of the original.

Chocolate was a digital download so even easier to get hold of.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #195 posted 10/15/21 7:03am

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udo said:



RODSERLING said:


Then a RSD in july for a very rare album, such as The Undertaker or Chocolate Invasion.

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Undertaker has been b00tl3gg3d to death from copies of the original.


Chocolate was a digital download so even easier to get hold of.



Wasn't The Truth already officially released "to death" With Crystal Ball?
Why The Undertaker amd Chocolate were easier to get than the Truth?
Your reasoning makes no sense at all.
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Reply #196 posted 10/15/21 7:15am

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RODSERLING said:

udo said:

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Undertaker has been b00tl3gg3d to death from copies of the original.

Chocolate was a digital download so even easier to get hold of.

Wasn't The Truth already officially released "to death" With Crystal Ball?

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Yes?, so why rehash?

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Why The Undertaker amd Chocolate were easier to get than the Truth?

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Yes, so why the rehash?

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Your reasoning makes no sense at all. [Edited 10/15/21 7:04am]

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If you cannot see the non-point in these releaes from the point of a somehwat hardcore collector then yes it does not make sense.

But for me the sense (or lack thereof) comes from the rehash.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #197 posted 10/15/21 7:32am

RODSERLING

udo said:



RODSERLING said:


udo said:


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Undertaker has been b00tl3gg3d to death from copies of the original.


Chocolate was a digital download so even easier to get hold of.




Wasn't The Truth already officially released "to death" With Crystal Ball?

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Yes?, so why rehash?


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Why The Undertaker amd Chocolate were easier to get than the Truth?

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Yes, so why the rehash?


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Your reasoning makes no sense at all. [Edited 10/15/21 7:04am]

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If you cannot see the non-point in these releaes from the point of a somehwat hardcore collector then yes it does not make sense.


But for me the sense (or lack thereof) comes from the rehash.



I was just predicting, as always, the calendar of next year.
The whole point of The Truth re-release was that for the first time it was on LP amd had a special ( interactive?) Packaging.

For the record, I didn't care much of that release, but the fact is that it sold very well. So, that's how Sony will proceed now.
Whether you like that marketing strategy or not, they will do the same thing with one of these rare, more or less never released commercially, albums.
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Reply #198 posted 10/18/21 12:29am

funkbabyandthe
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Please let there be no chocolate invasion release lol
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Reply #199 posted 10/18/21 4:56am

LoveGalore

I hope there's a demo of Strollin. Probably my 2nd favorite song on the album but it kinda flies under the radar a bit.
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Reply #200 posted 10/19/21 9:36am

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Buttox said:

Diamonds and Pearls was my first Prince album and Thunder the first song that blew me away. One person did everything on one song? How? Looking back on it now though I think this was the beginning of the end for Prince as a recording artist at the cutting edge of experimentation and commercial success. Graffiti Bridge bombed despite some excellent experimental pop (Elephants and Flowers, NPG)- it had too many filler songs. D&P was Prince plumbing the Pop depths without purpose or conviction.
    Cream is essentially a blatant T Rex knock off Push and Jughead featuring the 'not avant garde at all" Toni M, was Prince basically saying "I don't know what makes hip hop tick but here's some anyway" Insatiable is a rerecording of Scandalous Live 4 Love was probably conceived and recorded as a parody for fun Daddy Pop is OK but forgettable. Willing and Able is ruined by a rap...not for the first time or the last
Get Off was the one new sound on the album while other standouts like Walk Don't Walk, and Strollin were ignored. Even Thunder when re listened to is overwrought to the detriment of its rhythmic excellence. This is the album where we confirm what Graffiti Bridge had started to show: for Prince quantity, overindulgence and lyrics would Lord it over melody, hook, harmony rhythm, discipline and quality forevermore. [Edited 10/14/21 3:46am] [Edited 10/14/21 3:47am]

No lies detected here!

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Reply #201 posted 10/19/21 10:05am

Milty2

MendesCity said:

Buttox said:

Diamonds and Pearls was my first Prince album and Thunder the first song that blew me away. One person did everything on one song? How? Looking back on it now though I think this was the beginning of the end for Prince as a recording artist at the cutting edge of experimentation and commercial success. Graffiti Bridge bombed despite some excellent experimental pop (Elephants and Flowers, NPG)- it had too many filler songs. D&P was Prince plumbing the Pop depths without purpose or conviction.
    Cream is essentially a blatant T Rex knock off Push and Jughead featuring the 'not avant garde at all" Toni M, was Prince basically saying "I don't know what makes hip hop tick but here's some anyway" Insatiable is a rerecording of Scandalous Live 4 Love was probably conceived and recorded as a parody for fun Daddy Pop is OK but forgettable. Willing and Able is ruined by a rap...not for the first time or the last
Get Off was the one new sound on the album while other standouts like Walk Don't Walk, and Strollin were ignored. Even Thunder when re listened to is overwrought to the detriment of its rhythmic excellence. This is the album where we confirm what Graffiti Bridge had started to show: for Prince quantity, overindulgence and lyrics would Lord it over melody, hook, harmony rhythm, discipline and quality forevermore. [Edited 10/14/21 3:46am] [Edited 10/14/21 3:47am]

No lies detected here!

Yeah but....do you want a D&P SDE?

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Reply #202 posted 10/19/21 1:53pm

Romeoblu

A new Box Set Mathieu Bitton has worked is going to be announced on Thursday.
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Reply #203 posted 10/19/21 2:11pm

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LoveGalore said:

I hope there's a demo of "Strollin'". Probably my 2nd favorite song on the album but it kinda flies under the radar a bit.


I always dug those jazzy little numbers. "Courtin' Time," "Yellow," "Strollin'," "Somewhere Here On Earth," "Damn U," "Do U Lie?," etc.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #204 posted 10/19/21 6:48pm

deanm

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A new Box Set Mathieu Bitton has worked is going to be announced on Thursday.

Hi Romeoblu,

Are you able to elaborate?

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Reply #205 posted 10/19/21 11:13pm

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deanm said:



Romeoblu said:


A new Box Set Mathieu Bitton has worked is going to be announced on Thursday.

Hi Romeoblu,



Are you able to elaborate?




Mathieu Bitton on Twitter...posted a picture of Controversy vynil cove and this comment "Now that's some fun of imagination"...maybe he is kidding...that's it...nothing more or nothing more special than the Do me baby Demo we are aware of since few days ago?
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Reply #206 posted 10/20/21 12:33am

Romeoblu

love2thenines2003 said:

deanm said:



Romeoblu said:


A new Box Set Mathieu Bitton has worked is going to be announced on Thursday.

Hi Romeoblu,



Are you able to elaborate?




Mathieu Bitton on Twitter...posted a picture of Controversy vynil cove and this comment "Now that's some fun of imagination"...maybe he is kidding...that's it...nothing more or nothing more special than the Do me baby Demo we are aware of since few days ago?
[Edited 10/19/21 23:14pm]


He posted on Facebook yesterday that the new box set he has been working on gets announced in 1 day 2 hours.
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Reply #207 posted 10/20/21 12:40am

love2thenines2
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Romeoblu said:

love2thenines2003 said:




Mathieu Bitton on Twitter...posted a picture of Controversy vynil cove and this comment "Now that's some fun of imagination"...maybe he is kidding...that's it...nothing more or nothing more special than the Do me baby Demo we are aware of since few days ago?
[Edited 10/19/21 23:14pm]


He posted on Facebook yesterday that the new box set he has been working on gets announced in 1 day 2 hours.



Source? Thanx
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Reply #208 posted 10/20/21 12:50am

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Mathieu's answer from 10 minutes ago (on Twitter): "Not Prince."

[Edited 10/20/21 0:51am]

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Reply #209 posted 10/20/21 1:07am

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So...keep cool and take a tea or a bath....see u next year!
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