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Reply #30 posted 09/30/21 11:15am

26ten

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26ten said:

Oh wow I found 1999 the new master thanks to the generosity of a sadism of a fellow org member.

I get it now. Not necessarily unusual but pointless and random and hugely dated changes. The ending section I've dubbed the 'Miami section' and it was totally unnecessary. Made me think of the 90s movie The Pest with John Leguizamo haha which is also the most 90s thing I've experienced.


My understanding is that the 'miami section' was also part of the original but edited out, hence it's inclusion in the New Master.


Damn! That is really interesting. I wonder how it'd have been handled had he left it in originally.

Also that is some serious P knowledge. I forgot how crazy aware some members of the org were and it has only taken a few posts to make me remember. Very impressive.
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Reply #31 posted 10/06/21 4:09pm

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I've been listening to Rave continuously and am so shocked at any fans of Emancipatiin who don't jam to this (these) albums. I think these songs are better produced and more fully developed, and although it's more concise the album is still sprawling for a single disc.

The whole era is his most underloved and is colloquially known as 'the plastic era'. This obscures an era that is every bit the equal of his early 90s material imo and in some cases better I would argue.
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Reply #32 posted 10/07/21 3:41pm

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26ten said:

I've been listening to Rave continuously and am so shocked at any fans of Emancipatiin who don't jam to this (these) albums. I think these songs are better produced and more fully developed, and although it's more concise the album is still sprawling for a single disc. The whole era is his most underloved and is colloquially known as 'the plastic era'. This obscures an era that is every bit the equal of his early 90s material imo and in some cases better I would argue.


The only album I like less than Emancipation is Rave. It's overproduced. It's also crassily trying to be commericial, which is bad enough, but it utterly fails to even achieve that goal. What's worse, Prince deserpately trying to make a radio hit, or Prince having no clue what was considered radio friendly at that time?


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Reply #33 posted 10/07/21 5:38pm

26ten

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26ten said:


I've been listening to Rave continuously and am so shocked at any fans of Emancipatiin who don't jam to this (these) albums. I think these songs are better produced and more fully developed, and although it's more concise the album is still sprawling for a single disc. The whole era is his most underloved and is colloquially known as 'the plastic era'. This obscures an era that is every bit the equal of his early 90s material imo and in some cases better I would argue.


The only album I like less than Emancipation is Rave. It's overproduced. It's also crassily trying to be commericial, which is bad enough, but it utterly fails to even achieve that goal. What's worse, Prince deserpately trying to make a radio hit, or Prince having no clue what was considered radio friendly at that time?




I read that that lot but - Prince *always* tried to make radio hits. I mean, the album Purple Rain was explicitly designed to be a crossover hit, and it succeeded. A song like Raspberry Beret is similarly designed, so I don't really hear anything about Rave that is much different, and it's certainly no more or less commercial than any of his other work, save for The Rainbow Children and his instrumental work. It's an album of some of his most personal songs.
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Reply #34 posted 10/07/21 5:46pm

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26ten said:

Oh wow I found 1999 the new master thanks to the generosity of a sadism of a fellow org member. I get it now. Not necessarily unusual but pointless and random and hugely dated changes. The ending section I've dubbed the 'Miami section' and it was totally unnecessary. Made me think of the 90s movie The Pest with John Leguizamo haha which is also the most 90s thing I've experienced.

You need the full maxi single for the true experience. The pure single mix track 1 of 1999: the new master uses samples in leiu of the new Chaka/Larry Graham overdubs.

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Reply #35 posted 10/08/21 5:12am

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WhisperingDandelions said:



26ten said:


Oh wow I found 1999 the new master thanks to the generosity of a sadism of a fellow org member. I get it now. Not necessarily unusual but pointless and random and hugely dated changes. The ending section I've dubbed the 'Miami section' and it was totally unnecessary. Made me think of the 90s movie The Pest with John Leguizamo haha which is also the most 90s thing I've experienced.

You need the full maxi single for the true experience. The pure single mix track 1 of 1999: the new master uses samples in leiu of the new Chaka/Larry Graham overdubs.



Noone needs the maxi single...!!
All that Rosario Dawson bs too
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Reply #36 posted 10/08/21 8:11am

26ten

coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

WhisperingDandelions said:



26ten said:


Oh wow I found 1999 the new master thanks to the generosity of a sadism of a fellow org member. I get it now. Not necessarily unusual but pointless and random and hugely dated changes. The ending section I've dubbed the 'Miami section' and it was totally unnecessary. Made me think of the 90s movie The Pest with John Leguizamo haha which is also the most 90s thing I've experienced.

You need the full maxi single for the true experience. The pure single mix track 1 of 1999: the new master uses samples in leiu of the new Chaka/Larry Graham overdubs.



Noone needs the maxi single...!!
All that Rosario Dawson bs too


Oh God hahaha

And yet I am curious...

Hmm...
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Reply #37 posted 10/08/21 11:22am

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lurker316 said:

26ten said:

I've been listening to Rave continuously and am so shocked at any fans of Emancipatiin who don't jam to this (these) albums. I think these songs are better produced and more fully developed, and although it's more concise the album is still sprawling for a single disc. The whole era is his most underloved and is colloquially known as 'the plastic era'. This obscures an era that is every bit the equal of his early 90s material imo and in some cases better I would argue.


The only album I like less than Emancipation is Rave. It's overproduced. It's also crassily trying to be commericial, which is bad enough, but it utterly fails to even achieve that goal. What's worse, Prince deserpately trying to make a radio hit, or Prince having no clue what was considered radio friendly at that time?


Rave, TGRES, SFSP, Baby Knows, ILUBIDTUA, Strange But True are all brilliant songs.

They are all basically remakes of previous songs (even the title track which is just a remake of Kiss), but they're still great!

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