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Thread started 09/14/21 9:47am

jfenster

deluxe bonus tracks so far

any non-fans blown away by any of these? only the fans been around forever probably care that much about this material.

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Reply #1 posted 09/14/21 9:54am

RODSERLING

My two years old kid liked teacher teacher.
A girl at his nursery heard him mumbling the song, and she recognized it " Is it not a Prince song? ".
Apparently she's a fan.
A true story.
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Reply #2 posted 09/14/21 10:01am

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My teens think LOVE AND SEX from the Purple Rain Deluxe Remaster "SLAPS". They even have it on their private Spotify playlists.

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Reply #3 posted 09/14/21 10:11am

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would these sell if they werent tacked onto remastered released albums? ..to non-fans

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Reply #4 posted 09/14/21 10:40am

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My husband absolutely loves All My Dreams...even though I have been playing it for years he heard it on the SOTT SDE and downloaded it for his own playlist.

However if he hears Cosmic Day he literally yells to turn the shit off. Whatever...

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Reply #5 posted 09/14/21 11:21am

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My 9 year old daughter loves a bunch of the Purple Rain and 1999 outtakes. My little sister likes a few too but she hasn't heard many of them. The fact that she likes them is surprising enough though because Prince isn't really considered "cool" amongst teenagers.


And, most surprising of all, my husband, who is not a Prince fan at all, really likes The Dance Electric.
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Reply #6 posted 09/14/21 12:21pm

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My friend John said Velvet Kitty Kat is his jam. I do not like that song but he swears by it.

[Edited 9/14/21 12:21pm]

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Reply #7 posted 09/14/21 3:47pm

Phase3

paisleypark4 said:

My friend John said Velvet Kitty Kat is his jam. I do not like that song but he swears by it.

[Edited 9/14/21 12:21pm]


I bought purple rain deluxe for a friend of mine.She is a little more than a casual fan.She loves Purple rain and Rave un2.So when I asked her what her favorite tracks from purple rain deluxe were,I expected her to say "we can fuck" but instead she picked one of the weakest songs from the set,"velvet kitty kat"
I admit it is catchy.Sounds like my "Sharona "
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Reply #8 posted 09/14/21 6:44pm

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"Velvet Kitty Kat" is ace, some of you dive wayy too deep into this esoteric pretentious pit when it comes to Prince music that cause you to willfully gloss over a perfect pop track to make some sort of philosophical statement.


"We Can Fuck" on the other hand... The most overrated org track of all time. Bar none. Org'ers hyping it up like the second coming, race to put it first and foremost on upon retrieval of PR Deluxe..... literally (okay, basically) the same track as "We Can Funk" from Graffiti Bridge. Vocals more intense, fine, more profane, big woop, but the same friggin' groove, same friggin' beat, same friggin' vibe. Now '87 "We Can Funk", now that's a different story...

But the org tends to overhype/overspazz Prince vocals at the expense of the myriad of his other gifts. This is why hundreds of amazing Prince songs go unacknowledged until a "Prince original vocal version" surfaces, then it's like suddenly on everyone's Top 10. Org'ers would go nuts for a "Starfish & Coffee" outtake if it had an identical backing track but an added yelp at the climax.

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Reply #9 posted 09/14/21 8:57pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

"Velvet Kitty Kat" is ace, some of you dive wayy too deep into this esoteric pretentious pit when it comes to Prince music that cause you to willfully gloss over a perfect pop track to make some sort of philosophical statement.



"We Can Fuck" on the other hand... The most overrated org track of all time. Bar none. Org'ers hyping it up like the second coming, race to put it first and foremost on upon retrieval of PR Deluxe..... literally (okay, basically) the same track as "We Can Funk" from Graffiti Bridge. Vocals more intense, fine, more profane, big woop, but the same friggin' groove, same friggin' beat, same friggin' vibe. Now '87 "We Can Funk", now that's a different story...

But the org tends to overhype/overspazz Prince vocals at the expense of the myriad of his other gifts. This is why hundreds of amazing Prince songs go unacknowledged until a "Prince original vocal version" surfaces, then it's like suddenly on everyone's Top 10. Org'ers would go nuts for a "Starfish & Coffee" outtake if it had an identical backing track but an added yelp at the climax.


Lol you may be right on the starfish & coffee statement
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Reply #10 posted 09/15/21 6:12am

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Phase3 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Org'ers would go nuts for a "Starfish & Coffee" outtake if it had an identical backing track but an added yelp at the climax.

Lol you may be right on the starfish & coffee statement

So didn't that pretty much happen in 1997?

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Reply #11 posted 09/15/21 6:15am

lurker316

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WhisperingDandelions said:

"We Can Fuck" on the other hand... The most overrated org track of all time. Bar none. Org'ers hyping it up like the second coming, race to put it first and foremost on upon retrieval of PR Deluxe..... literally (okay, basically) the same track as "We Can Funk" from Graffiti Bridge. Vocals more intense, fine, more profane, big woop, but the same friggin' groove, same friggin' beat, same friggin' vibe. Now '87 "We Can Funk", now that's a different story...


Co-sign. I'm not a fan of either the PRD or Graffiti Bridge versions of We Can Funk/Fuck. I kind of like the '86 version.


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Reply #12 posted 09/15/21 7:08am

djdaffy1227

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WhisperingDandelions said:

"Velvet Kitty Kat" is ace, some of you dive wayy too deep into this esoteric pretentious pit when it comes to Prince music that cause you to willfully gloss over a perfect pop track to make some sort of philosophical statement.


"We Can Fuck" on the other hand... The most overrated org track of all time. Bar none. Org'ers hyping it up like the second coming, race to put it first and foremost on upon retrieval of PR Deluxe..... literally (okay, basically) the same track as "We Can Funk" from Graffiti Bridge. Vocals more intense, fine, more profane, big woop, but the same friggin' groove, same friggin' beat, same friggin' vibe. Now '87 "We Can Funk", now that's a different story...

But the org tends to overhype/overspazz Prince vocals at the expense of the myriad of his other gifts. This is why hundreds of amazing Prince songs go unacknowledged until a "Prince original vocal version" surfaces, then it's like suddenly on everyone's Top 10. Org'ers would go nuts for a "Starfish & Coffee" outtake if it had an identical backing track but an added yelp at the climax.


I've bought every Prince album on release date since "Around the world in a day". I have over 300 12" singles from 19 different countries, so I'm not exactly a casual fan but his pop songs are some of my favorites! I LOVE "Velvet Kitty Kat"!! My least favorite song on Purple Rain deluxe is "we can f@ck" because I'm a 50 year old man who doesn't like a song just because he cusses on it lol I guess I quoted you because I agree with you.

BTW, "Starfish & Coffee" is one of my favorite tracks on "Sign o' the Times" biggrin

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
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Reply #13 posted 09/15/21 8:05am

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jfenster said:

would these sell if they werent tacked onto remastered released albums? ..to non-fans

Who cares?

Why would non-fans be interested if they're non-fans?

Seriously, why would anyone care about this? Like the tracks or don't.

Prince fans baffle me.

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Reply #14 posted 09/15/21 10:58am

Phase3

erik319 said:



Phase3 said:


WhisperingDandelions said:

Org'ers would go nuts for a "Starfish & Coffee" outtake if it had an identical backing track but an added yelp at the climax.



Lol you may be right on the starfish & coffee statement


So didn't that pretty much happen in 1997?


I believe it did
Thanks for reminding me because I forgot about that version
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Reply #15 posted 09/15/21 11:49am

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Personally, I love it all - which is not to say I love every song, just that I love that were finally getting it in decent to good sound quality. I've been underwhlemed by the quality of several of the songs but, hey, most of them were shelved for a reason and, at the same time, I've been blown away by a few as well.

And it's weird, for years now...DECADES...the people here - the hardest of the hardcore - have been salivating and begging for this stuff so it seems odd to nitpick about the variation in quality. Several tracks are, IMO, better than some that wound up on the albums. Others cement the reasons they were cut in the first place. A few were written for other artists. Some are just whacky and experimental and don't fit on an album. But most of them are better than 75% of shit I hear by pretty much anyone and even the less realized ones are at least interesting.

I'll take everything the estate feels like putting out. Unreleased music by my favorite musician of all time suits me fine. I don't like everything I eat from a buffet or a tappas menu. Nor every movie I watch from a favored director or actor along with books from my favorite author(s) but I'd prefer to have more regardless.

So I'm good with it.

Only thing I've disliked are the extended/alternate versions/12" things that are grouped up back to back to back. I can't listen to 4 straight versions of Computer Blue or whatever.

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Reply #16 posted 09/15/21 2:15pm

jfenster

Rimshottbob said:



jfenster said:


would these sell if they werent tacked onto remastered released albums? ..to non-fans




Who cares?


Why would non-fans be interested if they're non-fans?



Seriously, why would anyone care about this? Like the tracks or don't.



Prince fans baffle me.


Im trying to make estate realize the old fans will die and no one will want those vault tracks
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Reply #17 posted 09/15/21 2:46pm

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I love We Can Fuck...killer tune. The 86 We Can Funk version is great too. The GB version drops down a notch due to George Clinton going on about peeing in a cup eek lol

We're gonna need a bigger boat
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Reply #18 posted 09/15/21 3:02pm

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Poplife88 said:

I love We Can Fuck...killer tune. The 86 We Can Funk version is great too. The GB version drops down a notch due to George Clinton going on about peeing in a cup eek lol


Peeing in the cup is one of the best parts of the song
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Reply #19 posted 09/15/21 5:07pm

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jfenster said:

Rimshottbob said:



jfenster said:


would these sell if they werent tacked onto remastered released albums? ..to non-fans




Who cares?


Why would non-fans be interested if they're non-fans?



Seriously, why would anyone care about this? Like the tracks or don't.



Prince fans baffle me.


Im trying to make estate realize the old fans will die and no one will want those vault tracks

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Not all hardcore fans are old timers. Plus there’s probably a future fan born every day. I think it’s probably true that market for vault material is limited to the hardcore tho. Most “casual” fans I know, the types that only know the most popular albums like purple rain etc have little interest in the outtakes
What's the use in half a story, half a dream
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Reply #20 posted 09/15/21 5:18pm

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Poplife88 said:

My husband absolutely loves All My Dreams...even though I have been playing it for years he heard it on the SOTT SDE and downloaded it for his own playlist.

However if he hears Cosmic Day he literally yells to turn the shit off. Whatever...

Hahaha

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Reply #21 posted 09/16/21 8:24am

leecaldon

My niece, now 8, has been loving Holly Rock since it was released. And Father's Song makes her 'feel sad'. And sad is happy for deep people.

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Reply #22 posted 09/23/21 12:37pm

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herb4 said:

Personally, I love it all - which is not to say I love every song, just that I love that were finally getting it in decent to good sound quality. I've been underwhlemed by the quality of several of the songs but, hey, most of them were shelved for a reason and, at the same time, I've been blown away by a few as well.

And it's weird, for years now...DECADES...the people here - the hardest of the hardcore - have been salivating and begging for this stuff so it seems odd to nitpick about the variation in quality. Several tracks are, IMO, better than some that wound up on the albums. Others cement the reasons they were cut in the first place. A few were written for other artists. Some are just whacky and experimental and don't fit on an album. But most of them are better than 75% of shit I hear by pretty much anyone and even the less realized ones are at least interesting.

I'll take everything the estate feels like putting out. Unreleased music by my favorite musician of all time suits me fine. I don't like everything I eat from a buffet or a tappas menu. Nor every movie I watch from a favored director or actor along with books from my favorite author(s) but I'd prefer to have more regardless.

So I'm good with it.

Only thing I've disliked are the extended/alternate versions/12" things that are grouped up back to back to back. I can't listen to 4 straight versions of Computer Blue or whatever.

I pretty much agree with all of what you said here. I am just grateful for all that we get now. It is just a joy to wade through these unreleased tracks, even if not all of them are spectacular songs. They all offer a view on Prince's diverse creativity!

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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