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Reply #30 posted 07/12/21 8:12am

steakfinger

Who thinks the vault should remain closed? Cloth-eared simpletons who like Prince for reasons other than music and who are perfectly content with their 20th generation cassette-sourced bootlegs because for them the music is just a souvenir to the mysterious pop star experience. Idiots like that don't listen to the music (or they use it as audio wallpaper), so who cares? Fuck them.

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Reply #31 posted 07/12/21 9:28am

2freaky4church
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Yea, I need a kill list.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #32 posted 07/12/21 10:56am

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There will NEVER be "too much Prince" lol

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #33 posted 07/12/21 3:35pm

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Keep it wide open, release it all. If there was anything he really didn't want out there he'd have gotten rid of it himself. He knew it would be released if he left it.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #34 posted 07/12/21 4:00pm

funkbabyandthe
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jn2 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Its open now a few years
Some of what we've heard has been bad (those bonnie Raitt demos)
A lot has been amazing
Much has been just interesting to hear and compare
Its obv how much effort prince put into what he released, well most stuff, the good stuff, when you hear what he left in the vault, even though these tracks are still worth listening to

Has it been worth it?

I think he knew this would happen, but didnt want to sanction it himself despite bragging about how much great stuff he had sitting around. He just knew someone would do it anyway.

The reason I ask if it should be opened is not because I think he wouldnt have wanted it open,but because he just had so much unreleased music. More than most. Could it be a case of too much of a good thing??
[Edited 7/11/21 17:24pm]

Don't you like Emotional Pump? smile
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No lol but I think k there could be a good joni song there, it would just need to be built and produced from scratch, but keeping just the melody and lyrics.
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Reply #35 posted 07/12/21 4:02pm

PennyPurple

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It's already been opened, and went thru.

Where have you been?

U.S.A.
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Reply #36 posted 07/12/21 4:57pm

EnDoRpHn

Until “Hey Hannigan!” is officially released, no one will truly be free.
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Reply #37 posted 07/12/21 5:19pm

jdcxc

robertgeorge said:

Graycap23 said:

Lat I hear there was 8,500 plus unreleased songs.

How is that exagerrated?

Exaggerated in terms of quality, such as Prince having songs better than Purple Rain that he was keeping for himself and his children (well that won't happen), the wildest most psychedelic Revolution tracks or something like that was what he said. Morris Hayes claimed to have heard those better than Purple Rain tracks, but who knows when it is all subjective.

Exaggerated in the sense that the 8500 songs are all unique and completed, and not a reasonable amount of alternative takes, remixes and incomplete jams.

That being said, I am not detracting from the accomplishments of Prince and the Vault. I just don't believe he was sleeping on stuff better than Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O the Times etc.

Sure he kept some cool stuff unreleased (a lot of our faves), I just don't believe all of his process was platinum when his later albums lost that quality control and it factor for me.

There have been extraordinary tracks released ALREADY that as a 40+ year fan I have never heard before and I think rank with his top tier material. Even the Youtube unreleased stuff (the Flesh, Come live, Sex of It, Dark rehearsal) is very cool. Even in some "misses" there are interesting elements and musical processes that are worth hearing.

And as Spin Mag just said, "Prince’s leftovers are 96.43% better than anything else that has been put out by others."

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Reply #38 posted 07/13/21 2:16am

andrewm7

So let me get this straight, there are people who believe that not only should I not listen to vault tracks, they have the moral authority to FORBID OTHERS from listening to vault tracks?

There is no nice way to say this F*^K ALL THE WAY OFF!

YOU , THE HIGH HORSE YOU RODE IN ON, ALL OF YOUR FAMILY, TAKE YOUR MAMMA TOO!

I MEAN ALL THE WAY OFF! IF I CAN STILL HEAR YOUR VOICE OR SMELL THE FUMES OF YOUR PRESENCE YOU HAVE NOT FU*KED FAR ENOUGH OFF!

AM I MAKING MYSELF CLEAR, DO YOU SEE A FU&*ING JOYSTICK UP MY a$$,

THE EXODUS HAS BEGUN lol

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Reply #39 posted 07/13/21 2:47am

leecaldon

PennyPurple said:

It's already been opened, and went thru.

Where have you been?

I was under the impression it was still being catalogued.

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Reply #40 posted 07/13/21 7:28am

Graycap23

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jdcxc said:

robertgeorge said:

Exaggerated in terms of quality, such as Prince having songs better than Purple Rain that he was keeping for himself and his children (well that won't happen), the wildest most psychedelic Revolution tracks or something like that was what he said. Morris Hayes claimed to have heard those better than Purple Rain tracks, but who knows when it is all subjective.

Exaggerated in the sense that the 8500 songs are all unique and completed, and not a reasonable amount of alternative takes, remixes and incomplete jams.

That being said, I am not detracting from the accomplishments of Prince and the Vault. I just don't believe he was sleeping on stuff better than Purple Rain, Parade, Sign O the Times etc.

Sure he kept some cool stuff unreleased (a lot of our faves), I just don't believe all of his process was platinum when his later albums lost that quality control and it factor for me.

There have been extraordinary tracks released ALREADY that as a 40+ year fan I have never heard before and I think rank with his top tier material. Even the Youtube unreleased stuff (the Flesh, Come live, Sex of It, Dark rehearsal) is very cool. Even in some "misses" there are interesting elements and musical processes that are worth hearing.

And as Spin Mag just said, "Prince’s leftovers are 96.43% better than anything else that has been put out by others."

100% agree.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #41 posted 07/13/21 8:33am

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remain? Isn't it open already?

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Reply #42 posted 07/13/21 9:14am

BalladofPeterP
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This might just be the dumbest topic ever posted here (in the last day at least). I've enjoyed every last release so far but then again I actually listen to the music and consider myself a fan of Prince.

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Reply #43 posted 07/13/21 9:16am

BalladofPeterP
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steakfinger said:

Who thinks the vault should remain closed? Cloth-eared simpletons who like Prince for reasons other than music and who are perfectly content with their 20th generation cassette-sourced bootlegs because for them the music is just a souvenir to the mysterious pop star experience. Idiots like that don't listen to the music (or they use it as audio wallpaper), so who cares? Fuck them.

I think you summed it up perfectly. Especially the "fuck them" part.

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Reply #44 posted 07/13/21 12:36pm

jjam

The OP is clearly a Michael Jackson fan.

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Reply #45 posted 07/16/21 4:17pm

ForceofNature

I do like how "remain closed" means in this case, opened, moved to LA, catalogued, and digitized already with many songs already out lol

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