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Why do you think Prince has such a, um, weak stream? |
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PJMcGee said: Why do you think Prince has such a, um, weak stream? I don't know. Surely has to do with the fact Prince absent too long from the, streaming services. Also, his videos need to be upgraded on YouTube, because the picture quality is really shitty and almost unwatchable. |
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- Record Store day! No info yet on CD release, but i'm sure that will happen. Although I'm no expert. - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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- Thank you so much for all this uplifting info. Really appreciate it! - No, please. No movie on Prince's life. Certainly not a Bohemian Rapsody one. A documentary could be interesting though. Don't kill Prince's legacy with a copycat playing him in a highly possible rotten script. It's impossible to poor his life and career in a 2 hour film. - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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- Record Store day! No info yet on CD release, but i'm sure that will happen. Although I'm no expert. - RCS are mostly for Vinyl. Vinyl sales are now surpassing CD sales. I highly doubt they can make an event of a CD of The Truth. RCS are for vinyl and audio cassette, not CDs. Sony gave up on all reissues they began to release from Musicology to ONA. The best results they did were with Versace Experience, partly because of the the audio cassette re-release, limited at 5000. Sony should have released first everything that wasn't released in stores : Chocolate Invasion, C-Note, Xpectation, etc It would have worked better than Musicology, Emancipation, etc. |
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Vannormal said:
- Thank you so much for all this uplifting info. Really appreciate it! - No, please. No movie on Prince's life. Certainly not a Bohemian Rapsody one. A documentary could be interesting though. Don't kill Prince's legacy with a copycat playing him in a highly possible rotten script. It's impossible to poor his life and career in a 2 hour film. - As shitty as the BR movie was, it made Queen turned from a bad catalog seller, as the best selling act in the world of the few last years. It made unknown songs or former flops( Love of My Life, Don't Stop Me Now) turning into big hits in the charts, getting suddenly hundred of millions streaming. So, as shitty as a Prince movie would be, I'm all for it because it would make Prince being hype and selling millions again. I m not bullshitting. |
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- I know you're not bullshitting. And there's no proof that it'll work. True, it worked for Queen. But it will be a risk nevertheless. I dare to say that Prince isn't as big as Queen or Elton John for that matter. But if it ever should happen, it would be a blamage to his legacy imho. -
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 25 : Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 362,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 644,000 2 239,000 DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM Morgan Wallen 239,000 13 103,000 GREATEST HITS Queen 8,227,000 23 88,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,133,000 |
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So that estimated 4.1 million would be added to the 13 Million already certified for Purple Rain in 1996?
So if it was recertified by RIAA it would stand at over 17 million in the USA alone? | |
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feeluupp said:
So that estimated 4.1 million would be added to the 13 Million already certified for Purple Rain in 1996?
So if it was recertified by RIAA it would stand at over 17 million in the USA alone? When PR was last recertified in 1996, Soundscan had 5 years of sales. So you can estimate there were already 5/600.000 copies sold from the soundscan era. So you can add to the 13 Millions, about 3.5/3.6 millions more. |
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Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 26 Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 372,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 654,000 3 237,000 FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 237,000 23 92,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,137,000 51 62,000 LOVER Taylor Swift 1,321,000 154 26,000 1989 Taylor Swift 6,276,000 Taylor Swift will end up selling at least 1.5 millions albums this year. She sells her discs with a digital autograph or something like that to boost initial sales. Something Prince should have done as a marketing strategy. Purple Rain is still likely to sell at least 200.000 that year. |
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2021’s Midyear Top 10 Selling Vinyl Albums 1. Taylor Swift, Evermore (143,000) 2. Harry Styles, Fine Line (125,000) 3. Kendrick Lamar, Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City (99,000) 4. Billie Eilish, When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? (89,000) 5. Prince and the Revolution, Purple Rain (Soundtrack) (86,000) 6. Michael Jackson, Thriller (86,000) 7. Billie Eilish, Dont Smile at Me (83,000) 8. Taylor Swift, Folklore (82,000) 9. Queen, Greatest Hits (75,000) 10. Fleetwood Mac, Rumours (73,000) That means that 93.47% of Purple Rain sales are from vinyl only! That also means the ludicrous 6.43% sales left are from CDs, but also digital and audio cassette. Clearly, nobody is buying PR deluxe anymore! |
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I thought the PR deluxe was sold out (for the most part) thus not available for the public in disc or vinyl form. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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Discogs have a " Trending" list on their website which although is not numerical (on the app anyway), The Truth stayed at the top of the list for about 3 or 4 days. I guess that's a reflection of sales through the website. I think that's pretty good. | |
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Milty2 said: Discogs have a " Trending" list on their website which although is not numerical (on the app anyway), The Truth stayed at the top of the list for about 3 or 4 days. I guess that's a reflection of sales through the website. I think that's pretty good. From what we saw on the charts and sales in the US, it surelyhappened as followed : The only 13.000 copies the estate said they printed were all sold and accounted for the US ( it charted at #10 in album sales with exactly 13.000 copies). A part of these sales were bought in preorders by wreckastores of abroad countries, and sold again to a non american audience. In some countries, these import sales, were counted as true domestic sales, and they charted as such. Dedpute all the copies already charted in the US. Or else it would have been charted in many other countries, such as Japan. But all in all there were only 13.000 copies worldwide.  |
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Milty2 said:
You said the 3/4 days were a reflection of sales, whereas The Truth was sold in a day, and for a large part even before that day. Peace, and be wild. |
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Let's get it right: a reflection of sales through the website. I don't expect Soundscan to include Discogs sales. I'm just saying that album had a good 3 or 4 days and still sits in the Top 15-ish. | |
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US Billboard Charts (17/07/2021) The Billboard 200 TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak 176 178 150 150 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) ‒ Prince And The Revolution ( 1 ) New Milestone for Purple Rain : 150th week on the Billboard 200. TOP ALBUM SALES The week of July 17, 2021 TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 17 27 20 166 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution ( 2 ) Not so long ago the BB200 was nothing else than the top album sales. VINYL ALBUMS TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak 8 11 5 211 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution |
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Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 27 Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 23 96,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,141,000 |
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US Billboard Charts (24/07/2021) BTS Blasts Onto Hot 100 at No. 1 With 'Permission to Dance, BTS sends the ninth song with the word "dance" in its title to the top of the Hot 100. Here's the full "dance" card: "Save the Last Dance for Me," The Drifters, three weeks at No. 1, beginning Oct. 17, 1960 "Let's Dance," David Bowie, one, May 21, 1983 "Flashdance…What a Feeling," Irene Cara, six, May 28, 1983 "I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)," Whitney Houston, two, June 27, 1987 "Batdance," Prince, one, Aug. 5, 1989 "Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)," C+C Music Factory, two, Feb. 9, 1991 "Just Dance," Lady Gaga feat. Colby O'Donis, three, Jan. 17, 2009 "One Dance," Drake feat. WizKid & Kyla, 10, May 21, 2016 "Permission to Dance," BTS, one week to-date, July 24, 2021 The Billboard 200 TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 169 176 178 151 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) ‒ Prince ( 1 ) TOP ALBUM SALES 19 17 27 167 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution ( 2 ) Warner, NPG SOUNDTRACKS 4 3 3 511 Purple Rain (Prince And The Revolution) - Soundtrack ( 1 ) Warner, NPG VINYL ALBUMS 5 8 11 212 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince How will W2A will affect PR sales the week of the release? Will it cannibalize it? Will it make even more exposition in the charts, like these 2 albums in the top 20 sales at the same time? We ll get the answer in two weeks ! I predict opening sales for W2A in the US in the range of 35/40k copies ( unless initial preorders were cancelled, with such a long delay! Don't know the calendar release, but I predict a #1 in sales, but missing the official BB200 top 10. |
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Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 28 Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 385,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 668,000 22 99,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,144,000 |
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Billboard begins his "year" 2021" As of the 1st November of 2020 ! So these dushes are now as of week 37, can you believe it? BILLBOARD YEAR WEEK 37: BB200 ( sales + streaming) Rank Estimated EAS TITLE Artist 1 2,219,000 DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM Morgan Wallen 187 169,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution According to my estimations, from this 169.000 "copies" : -139k pure sales ( physical, download) - 30k streaming equivalent sales It is getting better and better in term of streaming numbers. Let's hope the release of W2A will generate more interest in Prince catalog. |
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Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 29 Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 391,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 673,000 22 104,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,149,000 What a dynamic ! Evermore, a 2020 album, takes 6000 copies, while Purple Rain, released 37 years ago, takes 5000 ! |
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The track W2A got a little boost on YouTube with the release of the album. From an usual 1600 views a day, it got 5700 views on Friday, then 7593 Saturday! For a total of 744k views on almost 4 months. Where will it stop? It didn't make a boost from the catalogue tracks though. The video on YT with the best dynamic currently is the 1985 live from Purple Rain, with 50 k views a day. Released only 14 months ago, it got 18.5 millions views on YT. For a reminder, the best Prince viewed tracks on YT doesn't belong to the Prince official Vevo Channel! It s Purple Rain (221 M) and While My Guitar Gently Weeps 2004 performance (103 M) The two versions of When Doves Cry, the #1 song from the Vevo Channel, have "only" A total of 83 M. |
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Best viewed songs ever on the official Prince Vevo Channel ( post-death releases only) : 8 Purple Rain (Live 1985) [Official Video] 18,527,889 11 Nothing Compares 2 U (Official Music Video)12,538,858 41 Manic Monday (Official Music Video) 1,654,673 57 Mary Don't You Weep (Official Audio) 842,143 62 Holly Rock (Official Music Video) 776,197 65 Welcome 2 America 744,246 67 Prince - Mary Don't You Weep (Official Music Video) 705,699 |
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US Billboard Charts (07/08/2021)
Fuck Love. How charming is that for a #1 album. The Kid LAROI's ‘F**k Love’ Jumps to No. 1 on Billboard 200 Albums Chart F**k Love is the first album to be No. 1 without also debuting on top since the Nov. 30, 2019-dated chart, when the soundtrack to Frozen II rose 3-1 in its third week on the list. F**k Love is also the first album to reach No. 1 more than a year after its release since Prince’s The Very Best of Prince re-entered at No. 1 on the May 7, 2016, chart, following his death, more than 15 years after its release in 2001. (The last album to take 53 or more chart weeks to No. 1 was the soundtrack to O Brother, Where Art Thou?, which hit No. 1 in its 63rd week, rising 2-1 on the Feb. 23, 2002-dated chart following its Grammy Award win for album of the year. It debuted on the Jan. 13, 2001 chart.) The Billboard 200 TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 19 New 1 McCartney III Imagined ‒ Paul McCartney ( 19 ) 192 166 169 153 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) TOP ALBUM SALES The week of August 7, 2021 TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 1 Re-Entry 2 McCartney III Imagined - Paul McCartney ( 1 ) MPL 25 26 19 169 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince VINYL ALBUMS The week of August 7, 2021 TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) Imprint | label 1 NEW 1 McCartney III Imagined - Paul McCartney ( 1 ) 9 17 5 214 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince [Edited 8/3/21 21:37pm] |
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Japan Oricon top albums #10 Prince- Welcome 2 America (6, 373 sales) |
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Australian album charts
#5 Prince- Welcome 2 America His best charting position for a studio album since... Come(!), which peaked at #2 in 1994. [Edited 8/6/21 3:04am] |
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Very good per4mance! When will the Billboard 200 be updated?
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