EmmaMcG said:

I like it. So far, my review of the album looks like this. Welcome 2 America - 7/10 Running Game (Son of a Slave Master) ?/10 Born 2 Die - 7/10 1000 Light Years From Here 8/10 (presuming it's the same as HnR 2 version Hot Summer - 2/10 Stand Up And B Strong - ?/10 Check The Record - ?/10 (the preview sounds good) Same Page, Different Book - 5/10 When She Comes - 10/10 (presuming it's the same as HnR 2 version) 1010 (Rin Tin Tin) - ?/10 Yes - ?/10 One Day We Will All B Free - ?/10 All in all, it's shaping up to be a pretty decent album so far.

When She Comes 10/10? So it's as good as All My Dreams or Purple Rain or SOTT or Anna Stesia? For real??

MattyJam said:

EmmaMcG said:

Simply "OK" but "OK" is all expected from his later stuff so I'm not surprised. I'll save my money for another project. Next....

OperatingThetan said:

lustmealways said:

it almost sounds like a scratch lead vocal take really, i mean it's good, but something feels off in a way i haven't heard on any other material of this era. very thin sounding in a way that doesn't serve the song, in my opinion.

it makes me wonder how close this really was to being released. one's left to assume there were probably a few things he would've gone back and changed if he really released it in 2011. i just want to know what i'm listening to really, cause a lot of these sound like 90 percent of the way there to "finished studio track" but there are little things here and there that catch my attention and make me think about it. i of course didn't have these thoughts regarding the SDE's cause those were just outtake discs, but the context of this being an album makes me think about it more.

Interesting, as I've also began to be nagged by the idea this is unfinished. What particularly bothers me is the manner in which the song just ambles to an end and the relative absence of Prince's input the last few minutes. It feels as though the finale of the song needs some soaring falsetto or a guitar solo or even an explosion of horns. Instead, there's just an empty space where something should have been. It feels as if Prince left the song after three minutes and simply never returned. A shame as this is almost there... * [Edited 6/4/21 4:54am]

I don't know. Go back and listen to "Same Page, Different Book" which was released when Prince was still alive, on the 3rd Eye Girl youtube channel and it has the same production and also rambles on in
the end. noticably so. I think it's just the vibe the album will have perhaps? since SPDB is so much in
line with W2A and B2D.

normally i think the "you're not a real fan unless you like..." is bullshit for mosts artists and useless gatekeeping, but people who exclusively listen to the 80s material... idk, it's making me reconsider my stance on the matter.

Phase3 said:

EmmaMcG said:

some super boring shit here....no wonder he didnt release this shit!

Ohhhh love it

Phase3 said:

Spotify just auto-played Curtis Mayfield's 'Move On Up' after Born2Die. Actually made me laugh out loud, it's a trillion times better than this bland Prince track.

Yes it will be a great idea to compare possibly Curtis mayfields best song to it. Some people on here are like I said, just looking for any excuse to troll.

antonb said:

Yes it will be a great idea to compare possibly Curtis mayfields best song to it. Some people on here are like I said, just looking for any excuse to troll.

Sure, that's why I joined the Org 14 years ago - to troll. This is just a bad Prince song. That's not trolling, that's an opinion expressed on a forum where we, erm, express our opinions on all things Prince.

antonb said:

Some songs are good some not as good , of course it’s just a matter of opinion. To call it a bad song is unfair in my opinion. I like it. And I have been listening to Prince a long time. I like the Style of this song and Welcome to America. To me everything we get from now on is a bonus. I just try to enjoy any new releases.

I mean, I am pretty sure everyone here wants to like everything Prince ever put to tape but its just not realistic of an expectation.

antonb said:

antonb said:

lustmealways said:

normally i think the "you're not a real fan unless you like..." is bullshit for mosts artists and useless gatekeeping, but people who exclusively listen to the 80s material... idk, it's making me reconsider my stance on the matter.

I argee,

When I first read the above post suggesting people who dislike this song must not be real Prince fans I was tempted to respond and say how idioit that sentiment is. Being a fan doesn't meant that you have unconditionally love every single thing Prince does.

However, there is a contingent of Prince fans (including some of my close friends) who reflexively dislike another outside of the '80s. I think that's very closed minded.

I kept telling them this: Yes, his '80s output was genuis and the best. But that doesn't mean there's nothing worhwhile in his later out. Just because something he released in 2010 isn't as amazing as anything he released in 1986, that doesn't mean it's not worth listening to.

For me personally, I listen to his 2000-2016 music alomst exclusively. That's not because I think it's the best. The '80s stuff is clearly the best. But I'm sick of his '80s stuff. I've listened to in repeatedly for nearly 40 years. I want to hear something different. And while is 2000+ stuff clearly isn't anywhere near as good, it's still good. I'm not embarassed by it (like I am about some of his '90s output).

lurker316 said:

lustmealways said:

normally i think the "you're not a real fan unless you like..." is bullshit for mosts artists and useless gatekeeping, but people who exclusively listen to the 80s material... idk, it's making me reconsider my stance on the matter.

I argee,

When I first read the above post suggesting people who dislike this song must not be real Prince fans I was tempted to respond and say how idioit that sentiment is. Being a fan doesn't meant that you have unconditionally love every single thing Prince does.

However, there is a contingent of Prince fans (including some of my close friends) who reflexively dislike another outside of the '80s. I think that's very closed minded.

I kept telling them this: Yes, his '80s output was genuis and the best. But that doesn't mean there's nothing worhwhile in his later out. Just because something he released in 2010 isn't as amazing as anything he released in 1986, that doesn't mean it's not worth listening to.

For me personally, I listen to his 2000-2016 music alomst exclusively. That's not because I think it's the best. The '80s stuff is clearly the best. But I'm sick of his '80s stuff. I've listened to in repeatedly for nearly 40 years. I want to hear something different. And while is 2000+ stuff clearly isn't anywhere near as good, it's still good. I'm not embarassed by it (like I am about some of his '90s output).

Yes that's what I mean , you have explained it much better than me! I can enjoy pretty much any Prince song because I like the variety of his music. So I can appreciate it. Especially after his death. There's nothing so far that has been released since his passing that I haven't enjoyed, I must be too easily pleased I guess. I don't get the blanket dismissal of saying that something is just shit.

The thing here is, I think, that people here judge songs based on their date of production/release. if it's written/recorded in 2000-2014 it must be less good then everything else he did in the eighties.

what if we never heard "everybody want what they don't got" and it suddenly appears on (let me say) 20ten or Welcome 2 America. would people still love the song ?

to me, that particular song is nothing groundbreaking and good to have as an outtake, but not killer material. but it's from the SOTT sessions, so hell this must be good.

see what I mean ?

Born 2 die to me has a nice ONA live jazzy feeling. I don't think anyone here dislikes that tour. it was one of his best in my humble opinion. so the sound and the vibe is good to me. only at the ending it goes down a bit, but overall a good tune. if he had played it live next to "other side of the pillow" or "extraordinary" people would love it to death.

for me, every decade has it's genious moments but also his lesser material. even from the eighties I don't like everything. but I still love Lotusflower and 3121 very much.