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Reply #30 posted 05/11/21 5:13pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

I wonder if they reached out to Sheila E. for the teal The Glamorous Life release. Did they reach out when Ice Cream Castles was released on Neopolitan colored vinyl? Just askin'.

Seems like it could've been a nicer release with colored vinyl, remastering - something. That 2nd LP is useless, unless you just want a shorter playlist for something (a party or whatever).


The link in the first post says it's red and white vinyl.

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Reply #31 posted 05/11/21 5:42pm

scs2000

I just read this post and then looked at Morris Day and The Time's facebook page and now it reads that Warners and rhino have now reached out to Morris Day, I guess, about this reissue.

The post seems like they were thanking the followers?

Who knows.

So we may see changes in the reissue?

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Reply #32 posted 05/11/21 6:01pm

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scs2000 said:

I just read this post and then looked at Morris Day and The Time's facebook page and now it reads that Warners and rhino have now reached out to Morris Day, I guess, about this reissue.

The post seems like they were thanking the followers?

Who knows.

So we may see changes in the reissue?


Yayesssss! That is great news.


May be an image of text that says 'THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE!!! Thank You All For Your Love Support.. @rhino records @warnerrecords Reached out to both myself, and manager this afternoon- and vowed to make this situation regarding "The Time" 40th Anniversary Album reissue right. I was very pleased with the call. Stay Tuned...'

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Reply #33 posted 05/11/21 6:59pm

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An expanded album with no new music?

Just plain dumb.

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Reply #34 posted 05/12/21 1:47am

PurpleCreme

Now The Time's first three albums have all been reissued in recent years. 'What Time Is It?' in 2017 on green vinyl, 'Ice Cream Castles' in 2018 on neapolitan vinyl, and 'The Time' now. Interesting to read Morris' comments.

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Reply #35 posted 05/12/21 7:39am

Vannormal

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. I’m looking forward to the time when the hipsters are re-discovering the cd... . [Edited 5/7/21 11:24am]

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The first hipster that buys a DISCMAN will be the one. wink)

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Love to have it.

But honestly, what do we know about this physical release ?

Nothing.

Is it a remaster ?

How does the whole package looks like ?

Is it a gatefold album ?

Does it have printed inner sleeves ?

(''Get It Up (edit)'' is actually 3:05 and not 3:01)

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Reply #36 posted 05/12/21 7:59am

Vannormal

-It is being corrected now says Morris Day :

µhttps://ultimateprince.com/morris-day-the-time-album-reissue/?fbclid=IwAR0U-_8rQzgXy_No-9-M3-_UQMMEIonoXsL9rhcjJePmGNvkC8_FeF3Nevk

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"After saying he had a "serious problem" with a planned reissue of the Time's debut album, Morris Day reported that the label involved has "vowed to make this situation... right," and declared himself "very pleased with the call."

In a since-deleted Instagram post earlier today, Day expressed displeasure over not being contacted about the reissue plans. "The power of the people!!!" began his new post. "Thank you all for your love and support.. Rhino Records [and] Warner Records reached out to both myself and manager this afternoon - and vowed to make this situation regarding 'The Time' 40th anniversary album right. I was very pleased with the call. Stay tuned..."


Read More: UPDATE: Morris Day, Label...e' Reissue | https://ultimateprince.co...m=referral"

The original story follows below.

Morris Day has a "serious problem" with an upcoming 40th anniversary reissue of the Time's self-titled album.

"So apparently [Rhino Records], a division of [Warner Music], is reissuing The Time['s] 1981 debut LP celebrating 40 years," the singer wrote Tuesday on Instagram. "Interesting enough, no one from Rhino or Warner Music thought it was a good idea to reach out to me or any of the fellas regarding this reissue. I got a serious problem with that…[Let's] see how this plays out."

In a comment on that post, Day elaborated about his disappointment, writing, "So much could have gone behind this reissue of The Time album…fun facts, commentary, mini-documentary, 'REUNION' PERFORMANCE of said album, etc." Tagging the Rhino and Warner Instagram accounts directly, he added, "But y'all really dropped the ball on this one. #notcool"

Apollonia Kotero, co-star of the Purple Rain film and lead singer of the Prince-formed girl group Apollonia 6, commented, "Join the club, my brother."

The Time was produced and largely written by Prince (under the name Jamie Starr). He also performed almost all of the instruments and backing vocals, with Day handling the leads. The album, which reached No. 50 on the Billboard 200, spawned three singles: "Get It Up," "Cool" and "Girl."

The reissue — out July 16 as part of Rhino's expanded celebration of Black Music Month — will mark the record's first vinyl issue since the original release. The red and white two-LP package includes a bonus disc featuring original single edits of five tracks (with "Cool" appearing in two parts)."

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[Edited 5/12/21 8:02am]

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Reply #37 posted 05/12/21 8:03am

LoveGalore

We'll see what they do to make it right and a fitting release. Why they chose not to make it a real event is beyond me. The Time is an important band both to music in general and to Prince.
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Reply #38 posted 05/12/21 8:05am

Vannormal

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So now we know the vinyls will be red & white... according to the article above.

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Reply #39 posted 05/12/21 9:36am

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Hopefully, it will now turn out to be a release we're interested in...

Furthermore.....An Update

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #40 posted 05/12/21 9:39am

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Vannormal said:

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So now we know the vinyls will be red & white... according to the article above.

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This was already in the original Rhino link.

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Reply #41 posted 05/12/21 9:43am

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LOL, as if Rhino are now suddenly going to scrap this cheapo re-release (FYI vinyl is experience looong delays) and invent in bonus content.

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And yes, MD and TT did not know about the neapolitan vinyl re-release either.

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In the end, MD and TT have no say over this. WBR owns the masters and it's not like the Estate is going to block a release that'll bring them some easy cash. Would it have been polite of WBR to inform MD and TT? Sure. But they're a massive company and they have bigger fish to fry.

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Reply #42 posted 05/12/21 10:51am

TrivialPursuit

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BartVanHemelen said:

LOL, as if Rhino are now suddenly going to scrap this cheapo re-release (FYI vinyl is experience looong delays) and invent in bonus content.

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And yes, MD and TT did not know about the neapolitan vinyl re-release either.

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In the end, MD and TT have no say over this. WBR owns the masters and it's not like the Estate is going to block a release that'll bring them some easy cash. Would it have been polite of WBR to inform MD and TT? Sure. But they're a massive company and they have bigger fish to fry.


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Reply #43 posted 05/12/21 9:02pm

strongoxman1

Well the link is now dead and there is no other listing on Rhino's site for The Time, so perhaps they actually did just that! I'm sure I'll receive an email soon regarding my cancellation.

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Reply #44 posted 05/12/21 9:19pm

SoulAlive

strongoxman1 said:

Well the link is now dead and there is no other listing on Rhino's site for The Time, so perhaps they actually did just that! I'm sure I'll receive an email soon regarding my cancellation.



Hopefully they will listen to Morris’ ideas and do this thing right.That album deserves more than just a half-ass cheapo release.
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Reply #45 posted 05/12/21 10:35pm

Vannormal

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The page is now closed it seems :

https://store.rhino.com/special-edition-shops/black-music-month/the-time-expanded-edition-2lp.html

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Reply #46 posted 05/12/21 10:49pm

ForceofNature

BartVanHemelen said:

LOL, as if Rhino are now suddenly going to scrap this cheapo re-release (FYI vinyl is experience looong delays) and invent in bonus content.

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And yes, MD and TT did not know about the neapolitan vinyl re-release either.

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In the end, MD and TT have no say over this. WBR owns the masters and it's not like the Estate is going to block a release that'll bring them some easy cash. Would it have been polite of WBR to inform MD and TT? Sure. But they're a massive company and they have bigger fish to fry.

All due respect, should we trust your speculation, or the information coming directly from Morris in this case? If he says they are working to morally make things right, why disbelieve that statement? Of course only time can tell but it looks like they are going to make it right for Morris and co.

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Reply #47 posted 05/13/21 4:39am

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BartVanHemelen said:

LOL, as if Rhino are now suddenly going to scrap this cheapo re-release (FYI vinyl is experience looong delays) and invent in bonus content.

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And yes, MD and TT did not know about the neapolitan vinyl re-release either.

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In the end, MD and TT have no say over this. WBR owns the masters and it's not like the Estate is going to block a release that'll bring them some easy cash. Would it have been polite of WBR to inform MD and TT? Sure. But they're a massive company and they have bigger fish to fry.


Always the apologist for WB 😂

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Reply #48 posted 05/13/21 6:03am

OldFriends4Sal
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What would be OUTTAKES from the Time(1981) album?

I cannot see a Deluxe coming from this one without them.

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Reply #49 posted 05/13/21 7:23am

OldFriends4Sal
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Ya'll have 2 excuse me

I was going to mention this earlier

But I forgot
I'm not above that

But what we are going to do right here

right now

No not yet not yet just relax, this is my show

We are going to take up a collection, ya know

like they do in church

So as U C the fellas assembling behind me

we're going 2 take advantage of your kind generous hearts

And take a collection

I'll take anything

Money

Phone Numbers

Credit Cards

Your Momma

U don't want her? But the bitch in in the hat

Fella go on out there and take advantage of these kind hearts

That's right bring the house lights up, I like it like that

that way I can see who is giving and who ain't

Once upon a time ... exactly in April 1981 [Prince] creates THE TIME as an outlet for some of his most funky and danceable R&B material. The project was made possible when he signed a contract with Warner Bros. Records, that allowed him to develop and record other acts. After the considerable success the record company had achieved with his 1979 album "Prince" and the hit-single "I wanna be your lover" (which sold more than 1 million copies and hit #1 at the R&B Charts and #11 at the Pop-Charts) in the black marketplace, the record company was very interested when [Prince] presented them with more of the same. By creating THE TIME, [Prince] was able to continue on the path of his 1980 album "Dirty Mind" and explore other musical genres that would not label him as a R&B artist. His ideas about creating an alter-ego group was reinforced by a 1980 motion picture entitled "The Idolmaker". Directed by Taylor Hackford, this movie is a revealing and entertaining glimpse of the process behind the invention of pop stars. It was based on the career of Bob Marcucci, who pulled the strings for Fabian and Frankie Avalon in the '50s.

Sue Ann Carwell did a stint as lead singer before getting a solo contract, and also Alexander O'Neal took over. He was [Prince]'s first choice as lead singer for THE TIME, but he finally declined his offer by saying "If there isn't going to be a bunch of money, then I'm not in.". Alexander O'Neil later released more than 10 albums and collected three gold records - THE TIME released only 4 albums but got three gold and one platinum.

Finally [Prince] envisioned THE TIME as a cool, street-wise funk band, with [Morris Day] as the lead singer. The songs [Prince] tailored for the band were unpretentious and well humored, mostly concerned with love, sex, style, attitude, partying and money. Containing none of the spiritual or socio-political concerns that he dealt with on his own albums. Part of [Prince]'s incentive for involving [Morris Day] in THE TIME was to repay him for the use of his track "Partyup" on [Prince]'s 1980 album "Dirty Mind".

THE TIME's further line-up was basically created around a Minneapolis funk band called Flyte Tyme. This band, named after a song by jazz artist Donald Byrd, was founded by [Jellybean Johnson] (drums) and [Terry Lewis] (bass) and had exist in different incarnations since around 1973. [Monte Moir] and [Jimmy Jam] (both keyboards) had also played with Flyte Tyme many times ago. [Jesse Johnson] (guitar) was finally enlisted by [Morris Day], who remembered him from an audition for his former band Enterprise. Cynthia Johnson was one of Flyte Tyme's early lead singers until she left to sing with Lipps Inc., who had a huge hit with "Funkytown" in 1980.

Andre Cymone, who played bass in [Prince]'s band, had been very involved in THE TIME project from the beginning. He was also assembling a girl group, called "The Girls", and saw the side projects as an opportunity to supplement his relatively small income from being a band member only. Andre claimed that he came up with many of the ideas for THE TIME before being muscled out of the project, wich led into falling out with [Prince]. The relationship between Andre Cymone and [Prince] had been deteriorating for some time. Andre felt, that he didn't receive enough credits for his input into [Prince]'s music and stage act, even accusing [Prince] of knowing stealing his ideas. He decided to leave [Prince]'s band and embark a solo-career. He accepted to participate in the upcoming european tour, but he left the band immediately afterwards.

Lisa Coleman later also reported, that [Prince] pulled stunts like turning home studio jams with [Morris Day] and her into material for THE TIME and another side-project, Vanity 6

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

This year[7.29.1981] marks the 30th anniversary of Morris Day's first album with the Time, a self-titled effort of synthesizer-driven party-funk written by Prince and members of his Revolution. It sent two singles to the upper reaches of the Billboard R&B charts - "Get It Up," which featured an explosive Prince solo, and "Cool."

Q: This year marks the 30th anniversary of the Time's first album. Was that a good experience working with Prince on that one?

Morris Day: It was a great experience. We were all young and had no idea where the whole thing was going. So all those efforts back then were just innocent creative moments where we were just doing what we do and had no idea that it was going to take off the way it did.

The Time, home studio, April 1981 – album mixed in late April
Get It Up (9:05)*
Girl (5:34)*
After Hi School (4:20)* (Dez Dickerson)
Cool (10:06)* (Prince/Dez Dickerson/Dr Fink)
Oh, Baby #2 (4:57)*
The Stick (8:23)* (Lisa Coleman/Prince)

Thetime_album.jpg

July 29. 1981 rel The Time[self titled album]

1.Get It Up
2.Girl
3.After Hi School After hi school is registered to Morris Day, yet it was actually written and demoed by Dez Dickerson
4.Cool Cool is registered as a collaboration of [Prince] (music) with Desmond "Dez" Dickerson (lyrics).
5.Oh, Baby
6.The Stick:The stick was originally written by Lisa Coleman, but it was registered to Jamie Starr.

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Prince initiated this album before the band had even been assembled. The record was completed in only two weeks in April 1981 at his home studio in the basement of his house at Lake Riley in Chanhassen, Minneapolis. Only Oh, Baby was recorded in April 1979 at Alpha Studios in Los Angeles during the sessions for his own 1979 album "Prince". The final mixing of the tapes took place at Hollywood Sunset Sound in Los Angeles, from 28th to 30th April 1981. [Prince] himself plays more or less every note on the album. Matt Fink delivers synthesizer solos on Get it up and Cool, while Lisa Coleman provides some backing vocals on Cool and The Stick. Prince's own voice is often audible in the final mix.

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On 29th July 1981 the first album [The Time] was released by Warner Bros. Records. The credits listed [Morris Day] (lead vocals), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar), [Terry Lewis] (bass), [Jellybean Johnson] (drums) as well as [Monte Moir] and [Jimmy Jam] (both keyboards) as the members of the band. The production credit is shared by [Morris Day] with a guy named Jamie Starr, who had been first introduced as an engineer on [Prince]'s 1980 album "Dirty Mind". Neither record nor sleeve contains any songwriting credits. The music itself bears all the hallmarks of [Prince]'s synth-based Minneapolis-Sound and it didn't take long before stories start to circulating at the press, that [Prince] himself was behind this project - writing all songs, playing mosts instruments and producing the complete album, only utilizing [Morris Day] to add some vocals on the final mix.


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Reply #50 posted 05/13/21 7:46am

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Vannormal said:

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The page is now closed it seems :

https://store.rhino.com/special-edition-shops/black-music-month/the-time-expanded-edition-2lp.html

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Page works just fine for me.

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Reply #51 posted 05/13/21 9:46pm

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

Vannormal said:

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The page is now closed it seems :

https://store.rhino.com/special-edition-shops/black-music-month/the-time-expanded-edition-2lp.html

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Page works just fine for me.

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Indeed.

Though it was closed for some short time.

I tried several times.

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Reply #52 posted 05/13/21 11:44pm

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jdcxc said:

BartVanHemelen said:

LOL, as if Rhino are now suddenly going to scrap this cheapo re-release (FYI vinyl is experience looong delays) and invent in bonus content.

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And yes, MD and TT did not know about the neapolitan vinyl re-release either.

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In the end, MD and TT have no say over this. WBR owns the masters and it's not like the Estate is going to block a release that'll bring them some easy cash. Would it have been polite of WBR to inform MD and TT? Sure. But they're a massive company and they have bigger fish to fry.


Always the apologist for WB 😂

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Nothing to do with being an apologist, but with being a realist.

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Morris should be angry at his management, which keeps failing to inform him of such releases. It took them FOUR DAYS to discover something that was talked about in multiple Prince fan groups. MD and TT didn't know about the neapolitan vinyl edition of ICC until a fan came up to them and asked them to sign it (and he said this wasn't the first time they were surprised by something he brought them to sign). Does he know about the 2015 Japanese "remasters" of the 1980s albums by TT and by MD?

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Again, this was simply a quick novelty release by Rhino. There's no reason for them to contact MD & TT since those guys have got nothing to say about such a release. They weren't planning some major release. https://www.rhino.com/art...d-and-more They're a business, not some mom & pop operation.

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Reply #53 posted 05/13/21 11:49pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

What would be OUTTAKES from the Time(1981) album?

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AFAIK there are none. Perhaps the Estate has discovered some interesting bits, but IMHO it would be more likely they'd keep those for any Prince deluxe sets from that era, since I doubt there is such a wealth of outtakes from that era that they could give away some.

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Perhaps they could include a concert recording from the Controversy Tour?

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Reply #54 posted 05/13/21 11:52pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

What would be OUTTAKES from the Time(1981) album?

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AFAIK there are none.


There ya go. Discussion over. Mr. WB has spoken.

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Reply #55 posted 05/13/21 11:59pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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AFAIK there are none.


There ya go. Discussion over. Mr. WB has spoken.

I'd bet cash money that there are some.........this is Prince we are talking about.

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Reply #56 posted 05/14/21 12:09am

ForceofNature

BartVanHemelen said:

Again, this was simply a quick novelty release by Rhino. There's no reason for them to contact MD & TT since those guys have got nothing to say about such a release.

though it looks like they did contact MD so we shall wait and see what happen

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Reply #57 posted 05/14/21 12:53am

LoveGalore

BartVanHemelen said:



jdcxc said:




BartVanHemelen said:


LOL, as if Rhino are now suddenly going to scrap this cheapo re-release (FYI vinyl is experience looong delays) and invent in bonus content.


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And yes, MD and TT did not know about the neapolitan vinyl re-release either.


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In the end, MD and TT have no say over this. WBR owns the masters and it's not like the Estate is going to block a release that'll bring them some easy cash. Would it have been polite of WBR to inform MD and TT? Sure. But they're a massive company and they have bigger fish to fry.




Always the apologist for WB 😂



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Nothing to do with being an apologist, but with being a realist.


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Morris should be angry at his management, which keeps failing to inform him of such releases. It took them FOUR DAYS to discover something that was talked about in multiple Prince fan groups. MD and TT didn't know about the neapolitan vinyl edition of ICC until a fan came up to them and asked them to sign it (and he said this wasn't the first time they were surprised by something he brought them to sign). Does he know about the 2015 Japanese "remasters" of the 1980s albums by TT and by MD?


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Again, this was simply a quick novelty release by Rhino. There's no reason for them to contact MD & TT since those guys have got nothing to say about such a release. They weren't planning some major release. https://www.rhino.com/art...d-and-more They're a business, not some mom & pop operation.


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What is your point?

They talked to him. So obviously it's not a novelty release anymore. Hello?
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Reply #58 posted 05/14/21 5:17am

OldFriends4Sal
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BartVanHemelen said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

What would be OUTTAKES from the Time(1981) album?

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AFAIK there are none. Perhaps the Estate has discovered some interesting bits, but IMHO it would be more likely they'd keep those for any Prince deluxe sets from that era, since I doubt there is such a wealth of outtakes from that era that they could give away some.

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Perhaps they could include a concert recording from the Controversy Tour?

Yeah, I'm going through my info. I don't see anything that could be considered an outtake.

Now the 2nd album will definately have a lot to work with

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Reply #59 posted 05/16/21 6:49am

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ForceofNature said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Again, this was simply a quick novelty release by Rhino. There's no reason for them to contact MD & TT since those guys have got nothing to say about such a release.

though it looks like they did contact MD so we shall wait and see what happen

Bart is 100% correct on this.

WB owns the rights to the Time, Shelia E, Jill Jones, The Family, Madhouse and any other Prince associated artist.

Prince wrote,produced, and composed the music. The Time was fronted by Morris and played on stage by the band which were awesome in their own right but they didn't own anything.

Billy said in Purple Rain , "Dis is a bidness....", Morris can only sing for his supper and tour to get coin and recognition.

He never would have become known if it wasn't for Prince and needs to be reminded of this before his bullshit interviews.

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