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Reply #30 posted 05/04/21 7:07am

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suaveland said:

One oldie but goodie , On Mountains, immediately following the last musical crescendo before Prince sings Mountains ....Ugh! you can hear him whisper , "stop that sh@#!


I thought that he said "starfish" (or, very maybe, "starvation")

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Reply #31 posted 05/04/21 7:23am

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Check out the "Atmos Mix" of When Doves Cry, you can hear all sorts not audible on the normal version, for example Prince doing a kind of vocal chord warm up type sound before he starts the first verse. It also sounds great

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Reply #32 posted 05/04/21 8:20am

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Revolution81 said:

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Check out the "Atmos Mix" of When Doves Cry, you can hear all sorts not audible on the normal version, for example Prince doing a kind of vocal chord warm up type sound before he starts the first verse. It also sounds great

Interesting... I don'thave a subscription but wonder about what might sound different here on such a minimal song.

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Reply #33 posted 05/04/21 12:01pm

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LILpoundCAKE said:

suaveland said:

One oldie but goodie , On Mountains, immediately following the last musical crescendo before Prince sings Mountains ....Ugh! you can hear him whisper , "stop that sh@#!


I thought that he said "starfish" (or, very maybe, "starvation")


He says "starvation." Those of us on the DTT transcribed it. It's not too hard to hear if you dig in a bit.

But it's certainly not "Stop that shit."

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Reply #34 posted 05/04/21 12:31pm

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LILpoundCAKE said:



suaveland said:


One oldie but goodie , On Mountains, immediately following the last musical crescendo before Prince sings Mountains ....Ugh! you can hear him whisper , "stop that sh@#!




I thought that he said "starfish" (or, very maybe, "starvation")



Me as well, always heard starfish.
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Reply #35 posted 05/04/21 2:41pm

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The very end of the long version of "Computer Blue" is exactly how i imagined what it sounds like, when doves cry.

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Reply #36 posted 05/04/21 4:35pm

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Scream at beginning of Cream (:08) is repeated again waaay in the background at 1:25 mark.. have to crank it to hear it.

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Reply #37 posted 05/04/21 4:51pm

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Scream at beginning of Cream (:08) is repeated again waaay in the background at 1:25 mark.. have to crank it to hear it.



Mix the Computer Blue scream with Cream and have Darling Nikki playing as the foundation.
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Reply #38 posted 05/04/21 5:47pm

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ufoclub said:

Revolution81 said:

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Check out the "Atmos Mix" of When Doves Cry, you can hear all sorts not audible on the normal version, for example Prince doing a kind of vocal chord warm up type sound before he starts the first verse. It also sounds great

Interesting... I don'thave a subscription but wonder about what might sound different here on such a minimal song.

Okay this a dramatic revelation on the various tracks that make up this song. Now I want to know how this mix came about. The clarity is so nice and illustrates the mixing strategy so well.

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Reply #39 posted 05/08/21 3:38pm

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ufoclub said:

ufoclub said:

Interesting... I don'thave a subscription but wonder about what might sound different here on such a minimal song.

Okay this a dramatic revelation on the various tracks that make up this song. Now I want to know how this mix came about. The clarity is so nice and illustrates the mixing strategy so well.

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It was mixed in 2019 by David Leonard, from a 96k copy of the original 24 track master. It was released with a bunch of other tracks by other artists to mark the opening of a new Atmos mixing studio.

At one point it looked like they were planning on releasing the whole Purple rain album, but unfortunately it hasnt materialized

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Reply #40 posted 05/09/21 2:38pm

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Revolution81 said:

ufoclub said:

Okay this a dramatic revelation on the various tracks that make up this song. Now I want to know how this mix came about. The clarity is so nice and illustrates the mixing strategy so well.

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It was mixed in 2019 by David Leonard, from a 96k copy of the original 24 track master. It was released with a bunch of other tracks by other artists to mark the opening of a new Atmos mixing studio.

At one point it looked like they were planning on releasing the whole Purple rain album, but unfortunately it hasnt materialized

I can fantasize this treatment would happen for the multilayered, perfectly arrranged, but unfortunately very flatly mastered "Black Album"

Thanks for that info!

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Reply #41 posted 05/09/21 3:37pm

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ufoclub said:

Revolution81 said:

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It was mixed in 2019 by David Leonard, from a 96k copy of the original 24 track master. It was released with a bunch of other tracks by other artists to mark the opening of a new Atmos mixing studio.

At one point it looked like they were planning on releasing the whole Purple rain album, but unfortunately it hasnt materialized

I can fantasize this treatment would happen for the multilayered, perfectly arrranged, but unfortunately very flatly mastered "Black Album"

Thanks for that info!

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No problem

I agree the Black Album has the potential for an awesome Atmos mix, if they did it right.

Some of the mixes they did for other artists are a bit hit and miss, though i'm pretty confident if they got David L back or someone else who knows his music from that era they would do a good job

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Reply #42 posted 05/10/21 5:14am

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Ballad of Dorthy Parker at 6-7 secs you can hear a faint Prince scream/whine.

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Reply #43 posted 05/11/21 6:42pm

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Check out the "Atmos Mix" of When Doves Cry, you can hear all sorts not audible on the normal version, for example Prince doing a kind of vocal chord warm up type sound before he starts the first verse. It also sounds great


At 3:23 you hear him scream something in the background. It’s hard to make out though.
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Reply #44 posted 05/11/21 9:04pm

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haveaglamslam said:

Revolution81 said:

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Check out the "Atmos Mix" of When Doves Cry, you can hear all sorts not audible on the normal version, for example Prince doing a kind of vocal chord warm up type sound before he starts the first verse. It also sounds great

At 3:23 you hear him scream something in the background. It’s hard to make out though.


That always sounded like fingers rubbing up and down guitar strings, like he's gearing up for a solo.

Where the hell are those stems when ya need 'em?!

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #45 posted 05/12/21 2:50am

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TrivialPursuit said:

haveaglamslam said:

Revolution81 said: At 3:23 you hear him scream something in the background. It’s hard to make out though.


That always sounded like fingers rubbing up and down guitar strings, like he's gearing up for a solo.

Where the hell are those stems when ya need 'em?!

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Lol

He's saying "A-B-C-D!" in a spoken voice with the "D" being more of a scream. You can hear it plain as day, even on the reguler version

[Edited 5/12/21 2:56am]

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Reply #46 posted 05/12/21 7:42am

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The WDC Atmos mix is AMAZING!
"I like to watch."
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Reply #47 posted 05/12/21 7:57am

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Revolution81 said:

ufoclub said:

I can fantasize this treatment would happen for the multilayered, perfectly arrranged, but unfortunately very flatly mastered "Black Album"

Thanks for that info!

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No problem

I agree the Black Album has the potential for an awesome Atmos mix, if they did it right.

Some of the mixes they did for other artists are a bit hit and miss, though i'm pretty confident if they got David L back or someone else who knows his music from that era they would do a good job

Steven Wilson, all the way!

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Reply #48 posted 05/12/21 11:59am

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TrivialPursuit said:




haveaglamslam said:


Revolution81 said: At 3:23 you hear him scream something in the background. It’s hard to make out though.


That always sounded like fingers rubbing up and down guitar strings, like he's gearing up for a solo.

Where the hell are those stems when ya need 'em?!



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Lol


He's saying "A-B-C-D!" in a spoken voice with the "D" being more of a scream. You can hear it plain as day, even on the reguler version

[Edited 5/12/21 2:56am]


I’ve never noticed that until now, weird
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Reply #49 posted 05/12/21 12:34pm

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Revolution81 said:

Lol

He's saying "A-B-C-D!" in a spoken voice with the "D" being more of a scream. You can hear it plain as day, even on the reguler version


"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #50 posted 05/12/21 1:22pm

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haveaglamslam said:

Revolution81 said:



TrivialPursuit said:




haveaglamslam said:


Revolution81 said: At 3:23 you hear him scream something in the background. It’s hard to make out though.


That always sounded like fingers rubbing up and down guitar strings, like he's gearing up for a solo.

Where the hell are those stems when ya need 'em?!



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Lol


He's saying "A-B-C-D!" in a spoken voice with the "D" being more of a scream. You can hear it plain as day, even on the reguler version

[Edited 5/12/21 2:56am]


I’ve never noticed that until now, weird

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Well it is easier to hear once you know what to listen for I suppose.
Unless your ears are so shot that you hear it as guitar strings being rubbed, in which case there’s no way you will be able to hear it falloff
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Reply #51 posted 05/12/21 2:38pm

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Revolution81 said:

haveaglamslam said:
I’ve never noticed that until now, weird
- Well it is easier to hear once you know what to listen for I suppose. Unless your ears are so shot that you hear it as guitar strings being rubbed, in which case there’s no way you will be able to hear it falloff


I don't necessarily buy the ABCD thing. If we're talking about the little break after the 2nd chorus before the guitar solo kicks in, it's not "clear as day," either. I hear a lot of "when doves cry" lines building up to the solo, but nothing remotely near "ABCD."

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #52 posted 05/12/21 4:04pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Revolution81 said:

haveaglamslam said: - Well it is easier to hear once you know what to listen for I suppose. Unless your ears are so shot that you hear it as guitar strings being rubbed, in which case there’s no way you will be able to hear it falloff


I don't necessarily buy the ABCD thing. If we're talking about the little break after the 2nd chorus before the guitar solo kicks in, it's not "clear as day," either. I hear a lot of "when doves cry" lines building up to the solo, but nothing remotely near "ABCD."

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Like i said, if your hearings gone your not gonna be able to hear it

Maybe this will help a little

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https://www.youtube.com/w...nabkvyH-xI

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Reply #53 posted 05/12/21 4:20pm

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Revolution81 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I don't necessarily buy the ABCD thing. If we're talking about the little break after the 2nd chorus before the guitar solo kicks in, it's not "clear as day," either. I hear a lot of "when doves cry" lines building up to the solo, but nothing remotely near "ABCD."

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Like i said, if your hearings gone your not gonna be able to hear it

Maybe this will help a little

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https://www.youtube.com/w...nabkvyH-xI


Nope. Neither did the three other people I had listen, not even telling them where to listen for it, just what to listen for. Not buying it.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #54 posted 05/12/21 4:29pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



Revolution81 said:




TrivialPursuit said:




I don't necessarily buy the ABCD thing. If we're talking about the little break after the 2nd chorus before the guitar solo kicks in, it's not "clear as day," either. I hear a lot of "when doves cry" lines building up to the solo, but nothing remotely near "ABCD."



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Like i said, if your hearings gone your not gonna be able to hear it



Maybe this will help a little


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https://www.youtube.com/w...nabkvyH-xI





Nope. Neither did the three other people I had listen, not even telling them where to listen for it, just what to listen for. Not buying it.



seriously? between the 3 and 4 second mark of the above linked video? it's plain as day...not trying to be a dick, but if you can't hear it, maybe you're having hearing problems?
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Reply #55 posted 05/12/21 4:56pm

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peedub said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Nope. Neither did the three other people I had listen, not even telling them where to listen for it, just what to listen for. Not buying it.

seriously? between the 3 and 4 second mark of the above linked video? it's plain as day...not trying to be a dick, but if you can't hear it, maybe you're having hearing problems?

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He can, hes just arguing for the sake of it. Or doesn't want to admit defeat.

Obviously his 3 imaginary friends suffer the same age related hearing loss shrug

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Reply #56 posted 05/12/21 5:01pm

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Revolution81 said:



peedub said:


TrivialPursuit said:



Nope. Neither did the three other people I had listen, not even telling them where to listen for it, just what to listen for. Not buying it.



seriously? between the 3 and 4 second mark of the above linked video? it's plain as day...not trying to be a dick, but if you can't hear it, maybe you're having hearing problems?

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He can, hes just arguing for the sake of it. Or doesn't want to admit defeat.


Obviously his 3 imaginary friends suffer the same age related hearing loss shrug



IDK... it's pretty clear, though.i even pulled out my original pressing of the 12" and played it. clear as a bell. at least the forums have got me listening to my records today...
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Reply #57 posted 05/12/21 7:08pm

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Revolution81 said:

peedub said:

TrivialPursuit said: seriously? between the 3 and 4 second mark of the above linked video? it's plain as day...not trying to be a dick, but if you can't hear it, maybe you're having hearing problems?

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He can, hes just arguing for the sake of it. Or doesn't want to admit defeat.

Obviously his 3 imaginary friends suffer the same age related hearing loss shrug


Wow, here we are having a talk, and you up and wanna show your ass. Now I know exactly who you are. Thank you. I know what I'm dealing with now.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #58 posted 05/12/21 7:15pm

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peedub said:


seriously? between the 3 and 4 second mark of the above linked video? it's plain as day...not trying to be a dick, but if you can't hear it, maybe you're having hearing problems?


Well, that's not where I was listening. I was distracted by it cutting out on the left channel. I thought maybe my headphones were fuckin' up (I seem to have terrible luck w/ them). I kept listening to the break before the solo. I think I was a little after the intended part, because I was trying to hear just (like a second or two) before the solo kicks in. It was before that a tiny bit.

So yeah, I heard it once I realized the left channel cutting out was purposeful (albeit unnecessary). Still a weird moment in the song. All his frettin' over the bass and shit, and he throws the alphabet in there? Chiiiile...

I'd still love to hear the vocal stems, because God knows what else is going on in there.

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Reply #59 posted 05/13/21 8:56am

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Revolution81 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I don't necessarily buy the ABCD thing. If we're talking about the little break after the 2nd chorus before the guitar solo kicks in, it's not "clear as day," either. I hear a lot of "when doves cry" lines building up to the solo, but nothing remotely near "ABCD."

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Like i said, if your hearings gone your not gonna be able to hear it

Maybe this will help a little

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https://www.youtube.com/w...nabkvyH-xI

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Never heard that before! "A,B,C, DEEEAH" cool

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