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Reply #60 posted 05/04/21 3:20pm

BlueShakooo

herb4 said:



BlueShakooo said:


Btw: Has anyone noticed that a detail of one guitar part had been reworked afterwards? Here https://youtu.be/83zqqfKh2_k?t=122 on the original audio version we can hear him playing from 02:02 - 02:09 the notes C, D, E, G, Fsharp, G, Fsharp, G, Fsharp, G. Which has been changed on the released version to C, D, E, G, Fsharp, G, Fsharp, G, F, G on the aired version. https://youtu.be/6SFNW5F8K9Y?t=329 05:29 - 05:36 Small thing - that made it better. [Edited 5/2/21 6:57am]


Oh, of course. That's totally obvious. Everyone noticed that. You can't miss it.

...

I'm fucking with you because I have no idea about any of that shit.

Also, who said it was boring and lazy until Prince came out? There was a lot of talent on that stage. It's a great song, was performed very tight, Winwood was terrific and without the "by the numbers" approach to the song, it doesn't build and Prince's solo would be less meaningful. You can't have all seven guys (or whatever it was) up there jacking off on their instruments, riffing solos and showing off. ANyone who's seen a show like that knows it usually doesn't work

The song is slow tempo, intricate, builds on itself and then explodes (cue Prince). It's written that way on purpose and even called "GENTLY" Weeps. Notice how Prince laid back, played some rythym and waited before the crescendo to unleash that lightning? It's basic song structure, not wall to wall flash like something Rush might play. It's similar in structure to a story or even a movie and just because the last chapter or a certain scene stole the show and was especially riveting, noneof that works without the slow build. Think Staiway to Heaven or even Free Bird. Purple Rain for that matter.

Prince was the highlight for sure but not the only thing worthy of praise that night.

That's my non guitar playing Fsharp, g, Fsharp understanding opinion on this performance.

Carry on.


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Reply #61 posted 05/04/21 3:28pm

TrivialPursuit

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solo is in A dorian the second of the 7 modes


Well, I'm sure that means something.

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Reply #62 posted 05/04/21 4:18pm

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Face facts
The solo rocks
The solo IS gratuitous and out of place and inappropriat cos It takes attention away from the tribute to a legend and all onto prince who never played or knew George

Both things are true

Imagine a tribute to prince and then an artist he never knew or played with comes and slays it and makes it all about him

Seriously doubt ppl here would like that
[Edited 5/4/21 16:20pm]
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Reply #63 posted 05/04/21 4:29pm

herb4

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Face facts The solo rocks The solo IS gratuitous and out of place and inappropriat cos It takes attention away from the tribute to a legend and all onto prince who never played or knew George Both things are true Imagine a tribute to prince and then an artist he never knew or played with comes and slays it and makes it all about him Seriously doubt ppl here would like that [Edited 5/4/21 16:20pm]


Nah. Prince had to do Clapton's part and appropriately brought his a-game. He opened a lot of eyes that night too. I heard a LOT of people comment that that they didn't know he could play guitar like that. Prince only took up like a 1/4 of the song tops.

The whole rendition was damned near perfect and I've watched it probably 50 times.

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Reply #64 posted 05/04/21 6:16pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Face facts The solo rocks The solo IS gratuitous and out of place and inappropriat cos It takes attention away from the tribute to a legend and all onto prince who never played or knew George Both things are true Imagine a tribute to prince and then an artist he never knew or played with comes and slays it and makes it all about him Seriously doubt ppl here would like that [Edited 5/4/21 16:20pm]

face facts it is common during r'n'r hall of fame ceremonies to

have an all star jam featuring that year nominees.

tHE ONLY guy who didn't deserve to be on that stage is Dhianni Harrison.It's very stupid to have a guy who can't play and can't sing on stage just because he is son of a legend.

If his dad was not who he was Dhianni would never ever ever play on that stage.

Prince was honest about his delivery,except the body guard part there was no calculation at all

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Reply #65 posted 05/04/21 6:30pm

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What I like about this edit is that you can see more band member reactions. I wondered what Marc Mann and Jeff Lyne thought about Prince’s solo, how they reacted, etc. I haven’t seen any interviews with them where they get into it. But now we have this new director’s cut. You can see Marc Mann enjoying Prince’s backward lean while solo-ing at about 4:49, where Mann is looking around Lynne to get a good view. I’m actually surprised by how much he seems to be enjoying it, considering he apparently took both solos during the rehearsals. And I think Jeff Lynne is enjoying the solo, too, although I can’t see much of an expression from him. Only thing I don’t like about this edit is the split screens during the solo. I find that distracting.
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Reply #66 posted 05/04/21 9:10pm

Phase3

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What I like about this edit is that you can see more band member reactions. I wondered what Marc Mann and Jeff Lyne thought about Prince’s solo, how they reacted, etc. I haven’t seen any interviews with them where they get into it. But now we have this new director’s cut. You can see Marc Mann enjoying Prince’s backward lean while solo-ing at about 4:49, where Mann is looking around Lynne to get a good view. I’m actually surprised by how much he seems to be enjoying it, considering he apparently took both solos during the rehearsals. And I think Jeff Lynne is enjoying the solo, too, although I can’t see much of an expression from him. Only thing I don’t like about this edit is the split screens during the solo. I find that distracting.

Looked up Marc Mann because I never heard of him before and stumbled upon this



Who caught Prince's guitar?
Takumi Suetsugu
Well, now we know. According to a report from Minnesota Public Radio's the Current (via Facebook group the People of Paisley Park), one of his guitar techs, Takumi Suetsugu, was in charge of not only catching the guitar but specifically handing it to Oprah Winfrey.


I believe that prefers to the hall of fame performance we are discussing.I remember reading on here that oprah received that guitar during the show.
I had forgotten all about it till now
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Reply #67 posted 05/05/21 12:20am

funkbabyandthe
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thebanishedone said:



funkbabyandthebabysitters said:


Face facts The solo rocks The solo IS gratuitous and out of place and inappropriat cos It takes attention away from the tribute to a legend and all onto prince who never played or knew George Both things are true Imagine a tribute to prince and then an artist he never knew or played with comes and slays it and makes it all about him Seriously doubt ppl here would like that [Edited 5/4/21 16:20pm]

face facts it is common during r'n'r hall of fame ceremonies to


have an all star jam featuring that year nominees.


tHE ONLY guy who didn't deserve to be on that stage is Dhianni Harrison.It's very stupid to have a guy who can't play and can't sing on stage just because he is son of a legend.


If his dad was not who he was Dhianni would never ever ever play on that stage.


Prince was honest about his delivery,except the body guard part there was no calculation at all



Uhhh it's his DAD
His DAD
Not like he was dominating the song
He was just playing accompaniment
It was a group performance

Crazy how you guys are full of bile for dhani Harrison
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Reply #68 posted 05/05/21 12:23am

funkbabyandthe
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herb4 said:



funkbabyandthebabysitters said:


Face facts The solo rocks The solo IS gratuitous and out of place and inappropriat cos It takes attention away from the tribute to a legend and all onto prince who never played or knew George Both things are true Imagine a tribute to prince and then an artist he never knew or played with comes and slays it and makes it all about him Seriously doubt ppl here would like that [Edited 5/4/21 16:20pm]


Nah. Prince had to do Clapton's part and appropriately brought his a-game. He opened a lot of eyes that night too. I heard a LOT of people comment that that they didn't know he could play guitar like that. Prince only took up like a 1/4 of the song tops.

The whole rendition was damned near perfect and I've watched it probably 50 times.



Clapton did a solo at least half the length of princes lol.
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Reply #69 posted 05/05/21 12:57am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

thebanishedone said:

face facts it is common during r'n'r hall of fame ceremonies to

have an all star jam featuring that year nominees.

tHE ONLY guy who didn't deserve to be on that stage is Dhianni Harrison.It's very stupid to have a guy who can't play and can't sing on stage just because he is son of a legend.

If his dad was not who he was Dhianni would never ever ever play on that stage.

Prince was honest about his delivery,except the body guard part there was no calculation at all

Uhhh it's his DAD His DAD Not like he was dominating the song He was just playing accompaniment It was a group performance Crazy how you guys are full of bile for dhani Harrison

So what if it was his dad? If your dad is a dentist should your son do procedures with patients whn it's clear he is not a doctor?

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Reply #70 posted 05/05/21 2:23am

funkbabyandthe
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you guys are really showing yourselves lol.

as i said he was just strumming along, he was not leading the performance.

you cant compare that to a dental procedure (lol wtf)

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Reply #71 posted 05/05/21 5:55am

leecaldon

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

herb4 said:


Nah. Prince had to do Clapton's part and appropriately brought his a-game. He opened a lot of eyes that night too. I heard a LOT of people comment that that they didn't know he could play guitar like that. Prince only took up like a 1/4 of the song tops.

The whole rendition was damned near perfect and I've watched it probably 50 times.

Clapton did a solo at least half the length of princes lol.

I don' think Prince got to choose the length of his solo.

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Reply #72 posted 05/05/21 6:29am

funkbabyandthe
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leecaldon said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

herb4 said: Clapton did a solo at least half the length of princes lol.

I don' think Prince got to choose the length of his solo.

really?

my impression was that he pushed the limits of how much time he had to play.

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Reply #73 posted 05/05/21 6:59am

JorisE73

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

leecaldon said:

I don' think Prince got to choose the length of his solo.

really?

my impression was that he pushed the limits of how much time he had to play.


I think Petty said that he just let him go on because something special ws happening and Prince was checking with him every now and then for the que to end it but Petty kept the moment going.

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Reply #74 posted 05/05/21 7:21am

dodger

thebanishedone said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

thebanishedone said: Uhhh it's his DAD His DAD Not like he was dominating the song He was just playing accompaniment It was a group performance Crazy how you guys are full of bile for dhani Harrison

So what if it was his dad? If your dad is a dentist should your son do procedures with patients whn it's clear he is not a doctor?

lol

Case closed

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Reply #75 posted 05/06/21 9:22pm

EnDoRpHn

thebanishedone said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Face facts The solo rocks The solo IS gratuitous and out of place and inappropriat cos It takes attention away from the tribute to a legend and all onto prince who never played or knew George Both things are true Imagine a tribute to prince and then an artist he never knew or played with comes and slays it and makes it all about him Seriously doubt ppl here would like that [Edited 5/4/21 16:20pm]

face facts it is common during r'n'r hall of fame ceremonies to

have an all star jam featuring that year nominees.

tHE ONLY guy who didn't deserve to be on that stage is Dhianni Harrison.It's very stupid to have a guy who can't play and can't sing on stage just because he is son of a legend.

If his dad was not who he was Dhianni would never ever ever play on that stage.

Prince was honest about his delivery,except the body guard part there was no calculation at all


It's pretty disarming to hear the general public talk that way, but moreso here: Prince was being honored that day as a new inductee as well. If George Harrison had been alive, he would have been playing, and Prince still would have been on that stage.

As for that other guitar player, not in the RnR HoF, but yes, he can showboat. eek

[Edited 5/6/21 22:03pm]

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Reply #76 posted 05/07/21 12:06am

funkman88

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I think Prince’s guitar needed a cigarette after that biggrin

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Reply #77 posted 05/09/21 7:35am

udo

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

The solo IS gratuitous and out of place and inappropriat

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Yes, a sleepy sounding set of dudes does honor to whatever.

So when Prince setps in the song becomes 'awake' and fresh.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #78 posted 05/12/21 7:54am

steakfinger

thebanishedone said:

Bighead said:

Nothing in what Dahni says after the fact alludes to him saying anything bad about Prince or the performance. He's affirmed the fact that he enjoyed the showmanship. He's just commenting on the unexpectedness of the whole thing. Dude is a profesional musician and everyone is saying that he's playing an unplugged guitar? At his father's induction to the hall of fame? Little bitch? Talentless? Cunt? Twat?

Seriously "ladies" & "gentlemen"? That's fuckin' petty

Y'all are way too fuckin' sensitive.

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[Edited 4/29/21 11:44am]

[Edited 4/29/21 11:46am]

his guitar had a cable but you tell me do you heae it anywhere in the mix.also the way he strumms and catch chords he looks like an absolute beginner,not a pro at all and TrivialPursuit is 100 % spot on

You're both about as fucking wrong as you can be. Dahni Harrison is a fine guitar player and musician. You should look him up before you speak. A person can be a great musician while also thinking Prince is a showboater. They aren't mutually exclusive. Fucking sycophants.

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Reply #79 posted 05/12/21 7:58am

steakfinger

You dingdongs would be shitting your pants in awe if this was a Prince:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPjCsG_IfM

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Reply #80 posted 05/12/21 8:25am

udo

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steakfinger said:

You dingdongs would be shitting your pants in awe if this was a Prince:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPjCsG_IfM

.

Sure. You would.

Why would I?

A sleepy song, nothing exciting.

I will replay the Undertaker video to compensate.

Yes, we have higher standards. We need more to be in the area of where you thought a few 'dingdongs' would be.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #81 posted 05/12/21 10:52am

TrivialPursuit

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steakfinger said:

You dingdongs would be shitting your pants in awe if this was a Prince:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPjCsG_IfM


That is garbage. What a shit song, and his voice is nails on a chalkboard.

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Reply #82 posted 05/13/21 8:00am

thebanishedone

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steakfinger said:

You dingdongs would be shitting your pants in awe if this was a Prince:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPjCsG_IfM

Ok so here we go.Dhanni sings flat on this track.he can't carry a tune.He "plays guitar" on a beginner level,you know those guys who need to lock in their left hand in order to catch a chord.

I will not react because you wrote that me and others who don't support your opinion are dingdongs and synchopats.

If Dhianni's dad was not George we would never ever heard about Dhanni.

And this is the last time you insulted me,next time be ready for the same treatment.

Vaya Con Dios Steakfinger.

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Reply #83 posted 05/17/21 7:05pm

funkman88

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steakfinger said:

You dingdongs would be shitting your pants in awe if this was a Prince:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPjCsG_IfM

this some boring elevator music wtf u smokin?

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Reply #84 posted 05/20/21 4:26am

thebanishedone

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funkman88 said:



steakfinger said:


You dingdongs would be shitting your pants in awe if this was a Prince:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPjCsG_IfM



this some boring elevator music wtf u smokin?

u c that he have mental breakdown insulting people on every topic he participates no wonder he likes this hack Dhanni
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