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Reply #660 posted 05/16/21 11:42am

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it feels like we've been waiting since forever and it's STILL 75 DAYS TO GO lol disbelief


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Reply #661 posted 05/16/21 3:23pm

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jfenster said:

They need to satiate with unreleased video while we wait

You'll have to "satiate" yourself... lol

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Reply #662 posted 05/16/21 6:09pm

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purplethunder3121 said:



jfenster said:


They need to satiate with unreleased video while we wait

You'll have to "satiate" yourself... lol


Hehe....imagine they release the video of the war performance..
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Reply #663 posted 05/19/21 9:01am

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Sounds like Shelby will be on lead vocals on Running Game (Son of a Slave Master...)...according to the new issue of Uncut magazine...

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Reply #664 posted 05/19/21 12:19pm

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Marco81 said:

Sounds like Shelby will be on lead vocals on Running Game (Son of a Slave Master...)...according to the new issue of Uncut magazine...


co lead for elisa on "stand up and be strong" too. seems just like in the concerts he was giving them some serious air time on the album too.

i'll reserve judgement for now. but for me it's always: no prince lead vocal, not really an album track for a prince album.

i still feel serious ill will toward Chelsea Rogers and Million $ Show, but that's just me I guess

lol


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Reply #665 posted 05/19/21 2:48pm

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Marco81 said:

Sounds like Shelby will be on lead vocals on Running Game (Son of a Slave Master...)...according to the new issue of Uncut magazine...

I remember how the fans ALWAYS hated Prince(r.i.p.) turning over vocals to Shelby(whom did one of the best per-interviiws about Prince(r.i.p.) on 60 mintes) live she got SO MUCH hate around here in the I HATE SHELBY threads. I guess Prince(r.i.p.) is now having the last laugh. I hope Troy makes Morris & Shelby the new spokesman for Prince's(r.i.p.) new pre 2000 vault material.

[Edited 5/19/21 14:52pm]

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #666 posted 05/20/21 4:22am

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I don’t mind there voices but I’m the same, my excitement has dropped a little not having prince on main vocals for some of the tracks
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Reply #667 posted 05/20/21 4:31pm

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Prince fans don't tend to like him turning over the vocals to anybody

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Reply #668 posted 05/21/21 10:09am

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herb4 said:

Prince fans don't tend to like him turning over the vocals to anybody

So true! lol

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Reply #669 posted 05/21/21 10:31am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:



Marco81 said:


Sounds like Shelby will be on lead vocals on Running Game (Son of a Slave Master...)...according to the new issue of Uncut magazine...



I remember how the fans ALWAYS hated Prince(r.i.p.) turning over vocals to Shelby(whom did one of the best per-interviiws about Prince(r.i.p.) on 60 mintes) live she got SO MUCH hate around here in the I HATE SHELBY threads. I guess Prince(r.i.p.) is now having the last laugh. I hope Troy makes Morris & Shelby the new spokesman for Prince's(r.i.p.) new pre 2000 vault material.

[Edited 5/19/21 14:52pm]



Is writing (rip) every time after you write the name of a deceased person really a thing? I’ve fever seen anyone do that before.
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Reply #670 posted 05/21/21 12:13pm

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lust said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I remember how the fans ALWAYS hated Prince(r.i.p.) turning over vocals to Shelby(whom did one of the best per-interviiws about Prince(r.i.p.) on 60 mintes) live she got SO MUCH hate around here in the I HATE SHELBY threads. I guess Prince(r.i.p.) is now having the last laugh. I hope Troy makes Morris & Shelby the new spokesman for Prince's(r.i.p.) new pre 2000 vault material.

[Edited 5/19/21 14:52pm]

Is writing (rip) every time after you write the name of a deceased person really a thing? I’ve fever seen anyone do that before.

I ONLY do that for Prince(r.i.p.). Because I respect & will honor his legacy 4EVER....

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #671 posted 05/22/21 1:42am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:



lust said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


I remember how the fans ALWAYS hated Prince(r.i.p.) turning over vocals to Shelby(whom did one of the best per-interviiws about Prince(r.i.p.) on 60 mintes) live she got SO MUCH hate around here in the I HATE SHELBY threads. I guess Prince(r.i.p.) is now having the last laugh. I hope Troy makes Morris & Shelby the new spokesman for Prince's(r.i.p.) new pre 2000 vault material.


[Edited 5/19/21 14:52pm]



Is writing (rip) every time after you write the name of a deceased person really a thing? I’ve fever seen anyone do that before.

I ONLY do that for Prince(r.i.p.). Because I respect & will honor his legacy 4EVER....



It’s pretty creepy to be honest.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #672 posted 05/22/21 5:29am

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antonb said:

I don’t mind there voices but I’m the same, my excitement has dropped a little not having prince on main vocals for some of the tracks

Yes same here but Prince has done this many times before with albums like Graffiti Bridge and D&P. The problem is that I've already heard half of the songs on W2A (Hopefully there's different versions of a few) and the rest is new to me. Having someone else doing lead vocals for some of those tracks are not a good sign. I think W2A will just be another Prince album with only a few gems on it (Born 2 Die seems like one). That's why the estate should have included some outtakes that didn't make it to the album. I'm still excited about this release and looking forward to it smile
[Edited 5/22/21 5:31am]
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Reply #673 posted 05/23/21 1:23pm

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lust said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I ONLY do that for Prince(r.i.p.). Because I respect & will honor his legacy 4EVER....

It’s pretty creepy to be honest.

No creepier then U or anyone else on this site....

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #674 posted 05/26/21 2:01pm

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my excitement for this is dwindling because they set the release date so DAMN far away

i want diamonds and pearls sde

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Reply #675 posted 05/26/21 3:47pm

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lustmealways said:

my excitement for this is dwindling because they set the release date so DAMN far away

i want diamonds and pearls sde


only 64 days left


neutral


probably 200 until the next SDE, if we get one this year.


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Reply #676 posted 05/26/21 11:50pm

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lustmealways said:

my excitement for this is dwindling because they set the release date so DAMN far away

i want diamonds and pearls sde

I agree. June 7th would have been perfect.

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Reply #677 posted 05/31/21 12:16pm

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this roll out is boring as shit. 1999 and sott had me much more hyped. thinking about them every day. not because i'm one of those loser 80s purists but because it just felt more busy. i hope i can have at least a few fun months with the diamonds and pearls lead up.

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Reply #678 posted 05/31/21 2:27pm

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So long between announcement and release date that I forgot when it comes out. Got excited today because I got an email from CD Japan about taking payment, so assumed it must be on the way. But no, there’s some credit card 60 day shedazzle and only by checking on here, it’s still another 2 months to go. Wonder if like the black album, it’ll get cancelled a week before!
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Reply #679 posted 06/01/21 12:46am

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fredmagnus said:

lustmealways said:

my excitement for this is dwindling because they set the release date so DAMN far away

i want diamonds and pearls sde

I agree. June 7th would have been perfect.


Hopefully they have a suprise for June 7th or start doing that from now on, but probably not.

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Reply #680 posted 06/01/21 3:27pm

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Like I said numerous times here, and I was right for the release date of this project and others, it is very likely that W2A will ve pushed back for at least another week.
It happened for other estate releases before.
Moreover, vinyls sales have so dramatically increased, there is a worldwide supply problem. There is only 10 vinyl plants in the world.
They have to order months in advance, 3 to 5 months in fact.

To think the estate wasted so much vinyls in their releases is disgusting. What was the point of their forced double format release? ( Originals, W2A, Piano and Mic)


What what the point of their ludicrous 13 vinyls SOTT ? With 2 vinyls for the edits and remixes?
6 vinyls Emancipation?
Versace Experience that was sourced from a used audio cassette?

Why don't they release an audio cassette box set since they re at that?
At least it would be less heavy, and a casette contains more than a CD.
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Reply #681 posted 06/01/21 4:00pm

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welcome 2 america on reel 2 reel

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Reply #682 posted 06/01/21 4:06pm

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RODSERLING said:

Like I said numerous times here, and I was right for the release date of this project and others, it is very likely that W2A will ve pushed back for at least another week. It happened for other estate releases before. Moreover, vinyls sales have so dramatically increased, there is a worldwide supply problem. There is only 10 vinyl plants in the world. They have to order months in advance, 3 to 5 months in fact. To think the estate wasted so much vinyls in their releases is disgusting. What was the point of their forced double format release? ( Originals, W2A, Piano and Mic) What what the point of their ludicrous 13 vinyls SOTT ? With 2 vinyls for the edits and remixes? 6 vinyls Emancipation? Versace Experience that was sourced from a used audio cassette? Why don't they release an audio cassette box set since they re at that? At least it would be less heavy, and a casette contains more than a CD. [Edited 6/1/21 15:34pm]

We know, we know. You are always right. But no matter what they did or didn't release, roughly half of us would still complain about it I think.

I have my own ideas and preferences on what the estate should and shouldn't do and what I'd like to see and have along with my own ideas on what I would do but I also understand it's complicated, that there are literally MILLIONS of people to please and, more to the point, MILLIONS of dollars riding on all of it.

Much as I'd love to be in control, get a chance to listen to all this shit, and decide what to release or not, I know that if I were, a lot of the fans would disagree with my decisions, call me greedy, call out my taste, complain most of it wasn't new, etc.

I think they've done a pretty good job overall (all things considered) and I expect this album could very well debut at #1 and perhaps fan the flames of demand for future projects now that (after D&P), there's not much to mine from the big selling stuff.

I think they'll move more into deep cuts and rarities moving forward. They've released more stuff in the 5 years since his death than Prince did himself in the last 10 of his life, when you look at it. There's a lot of cooks in this kitchen.

And by cooks I mean accountants and lawyers.

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Reply #683 posted 06/02/21 2:15am

RODSERLING

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welcome 2 america on reel 2 reel



You have 10/15 years in advance on the new trend.
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Reply #684 posted 06/02/21 2:31am

RODSERLING

herb4 said:



RODSERLING said:


Like I said numerous times here, and I was right for the release date of this project and others, it is very likely that W2A will ve pushed back for at least another week. It happened for other estate releases before. Moreover, vinyls sales have so dramatically increased, there is a worldwide supply problem. There is only 10 vinyl plants in the world. They have to order months in advance, 3 to 5 months in fact. To think the estate wasted so much vinyls in their releases is disgusting. What was the point of their forced double format release? ( Originals, W2A, Piano and Mic) What what the point of their ludicrous 13 vinyls SOTT ? With 2 vinyls for the edits and remixes? 6 vinyls Emancipation? Versace Experience that was sourced from a used audio cassette? Why don't they release an audio cassette box set since they re at that? At least it would be less heavy, and a casette contains more than a CD. [Edited 6/1/21 15:34pm]


We know, we know. You are always right. But no matter what they did or didn't release, roughly half of us would still complain about it I think.

I have my own ideas and preferences on what the estate should and shouldn't do and what I'd like to see and have along with my own ideas on what I would do but I also understand it's complicated, that there are literally MILLIONS of people to please and, more to the point, MILLIONS of dollars riding on all of it.

Much as I'd love to be in control, get a chance to listen to all this shit, and decide what to release or not, I know that if I were, a lot of the fans would disagree with my decisions, call me greedy, call out my taste, complain most of it wasn't new, etc.

I think they've done a pretty good job overall (all things considered) and I expect this album could very well debut at #1 and perhaps fan the flames of demand for future projects now that (after D&P), there's not much to mine from the big selling stuff.

I think they'll move more into deep cuts and rarities moving forward. They've released more stuff in the 5 years since his death than Prince did himself in the last 10 of his life, when you look at it. There's a lot of cooks in this kitchen.

And by cooks I mean accountants and lawyers.



Sorry to be right all the time.

There's no chance for such an expensive set to hit #1, even in terms of pure sales charts. And with streaming added on the Billboard 200, it will hit like #20.
The December month is also very competitive, and it will be likely lost in the
Charts.

They did a very good job overall I agree. But if their crazyness of Superdeluxe 15 vinyls prevent them for releasing it when they want and should, and to postpone it forever like the Crystal Ball set, then they should be more reasonable.

For the D&P SDE, they should for instance reconsider to release the B-sides remixes and edits on 8 vinyls. 4 CDs along with the vinyls set would be just fine.
It would be a pain in the ass to listen to a 2 vinyls Gett Off Remixes.


Even for the concert they should reconsider it to be a 4 vinyls, that's insane.

The more reasonable would be to put on vinyls the original albums, the true B-sides ( Call the Law, etc.) And of course all the unreleased stuff.

If that makes the set more affordable and easy to release, it s a win-win situation for them.

Who are listening the Edits and remixes of 1999 and SOTT on vinyls anyway?
[Edited 6/2/21 2:33am]
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Reply #685 posted 06/02/21 3:13pm

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RODSERLING said:

herb4 said:

We know, we know. You are always right. But no matter what they did or didn't release, roughly half of us would still complain about it I think.

I have my own ideas and preferences on what the estate should and shouldn't do and what I'd like to see and have along with my own ideas on what I would do but I also understand it's complicated, that there are literally MILLIONS of people to please and, more to the point, MILLIONS of dollars riding on all of it.

Much as I'd love to be in control, get a chance to listen to all this shit, and decide what to release or not, I know that if I were, a lot of the fans would disagree with my decisions, call me greedy, call out my taste, complain most of it wasn't new, etc.

I think they've done a pretty good job overall (all things considered) and I expect this album could very well debut at #1 and perhaps fan the flames of demand for future projects now that (after D&P), there's not much to mine from the big selling stuff.

I think they'll move more into deep cuts and rarities moving forward. They've released more stuff in the 5 years since his death than Prince did himself in the last 10 of his life, when you look at it. There's a lot of cooks in this kitchen.

And by cooks I mean accountants and lawyers.

Sorry to be right all the time. There's no chance for such an expensive set to hit #1, even in terms of pure sales charts. And with streaming added on the Billboard 200, it will hit like #20. The December month is also very competitive, and it will be likely lost in the Charts. They did a very good job overall I agree. But if their crazyness of Superdeluxe 15 vinyls prevent them for releasing it when they want and should, and to postpone it forever like the Crystal Ball set, then they should be more reasonable. For the D&P SDE, they should for instance reconsider to release the B-sides remixes and edits on 8 vinyls. 4 CDs along with the vinyls set would be just fine. It would be a pain in the ass to listen to a 2 vinyls Gett Off Remixes. Even for the concert they should reconsider it to be a 4 vinyls, that's insane. The more reasonable would be to put on vinyls the original albums, the true B-sides ( Call the Law, etc.) And of course all the unreleased stuff. If that makes the set more affordable and easy to release, it s a win-win situation for them. Who are listening the Edits and remixes of 1999 and SOTT on vinyls anyway? [Edited 6/2/21 2:33am]


It's OK. Heavy Lies the Crown for the org members Who Are Always Right. There are several, so it seems.

Me? I'm just some guy shooting off my mouth on the internet.

I'm not expecting anything world changing from this record but it wouldn't surprise me if it made a splash somehow. To tell you the truth, I don't much care how many people are wise to it, buy it or how much it sells. I'll get a new surprise CD in the mail sometime soon and that's kind of fun. I hope I like it.

I agree they kind of fucked up the timing with the promotion and all that. W2A made a lot of noise for about 4 days and now they've killed any momentum they built off it. The cynic in me says they're slowly entering the phase of milking us die hards (hence the insane and weird different packages we're offered here) and that they're beginning to test the waters there but I think most of us are too savvy to get ripped off but will open our wallets for primo stuff. I know I will.

Then again, a lot of people here are spending over 100 bucks for an extra concert and some worthless collectables so I dunno. I stopped automatically handing Prince my money sight unseen (or unheard) a good while ago and, had I been smart, less sentimental and less lazy, would have unloaded 1/3 to 1/2 of my collection I have on hand when the iron was hot after he died and cashed in on speculators.
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Sorry...rambling....

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Reply #686 posted 06/03/21 12:46am

Matthaus

WOOF biggrin

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Reply #687 posted 06/05/21 4:15am

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RODSERLING said:

There is only 10 vinyl plants in the world. They have to order months in advance, 3 to 5 months in fact.

Where do you get that nonsense from? There's about 10 vinyl plants in the US alone. More like about 50 vinyl plants, and there are new ones popping up all the time. We even have one here in Norway.

The long wait *is* real, though. It was long to begin with, and Covid (pluss the rising demand for vinyl) has really messed up things lately. Optimal in Germany, where most new Prince records are being pressed are now operating with a NINE month waiting time. Major labels get to cut the queue a bit, but this is probably why we haven't heard anything about Crystal Ball yet. Several big box sets by big artists have been delayed for a long time.

The main pressing plant I use myself (Sony's plant in Poland) has gone from 10 weeks to 7 months now.

Luckily there are three companies who make new vinyl presses (plus GZ in Czeck Republic who make their own), and the biggest pressing plants have ordered a LOT of them recently. But the long waiting time will probably last for at least a year.

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