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Thread started 02/17/21 9:55am

carlitoz

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Is there an Emancipation Rolling Stone review?

I decided to build my archive of PDFs of all RS magazine reviews of Prince's album. It will be interesting to read them so many years later. I'm stuck with Emancipation. I cannot find it. I believe I checked all issues around the release date and nothing.

Do you know if there was ever one?

Or do you know of a good data base of reviews?

The RS review one referenced by Wiki is from 2004 so it's not the original one.

Thanks

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Reply #1 posted 02/17/21 10:37am

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I don't think they did one; There was an interview with him right around that time, but no review. The interview is really depressing to read because it's almost solely about the baby (who would've been dead either at the point of the interview or shortly thereafter).

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Reply #2 posted 02/17/21 10:58am

carlitoz

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Thanks, billy! Yes, there is a Free At Last article around that time. That must have the interview you are talking about. I saved it and will read in the coming days. So weird the skipped the album review....

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Reply #3 posted 02/17/21 11:57am

RJOrion

Rolling Stone Magazine reviewing black music has always been a joke and a farce

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Reply #4 posted 02/17/21 1:10pm

runningbear

did you check the old prince in print website, they used to accumulate old Prince articles, including reviews, many from Rolling stone. Last I checked site, annoying advertising kept interfering rendering it an unpleasant experience, used to enjoy the site, and contributed a Rolling Stone review for the "Prince" record, I think the first time they did album review of Prince

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Reply #5 posted 02/17/21 1:32pm

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Reply #6 posted 02/17/21 1:34pm

carlitoz

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runningbear said:

did you check the old prince in print website, they used to accumulate old Prince articles, including reviews, many from Rolling stone. Last I checked site, annoying advertising kept interfering rendering it an unpleasant experience, used to enjoy the site, and contributed a Rolling Stone review for the "Prince" record, I think the first time they did album review of Prince

No, bear. Good idea. I just googled and couldn't find it. If you know the address, could you let me know. I'll keep trying later. I want to say i was not aware of that website, but it does sound vaguely familiar. Maybe i saw it once years ago.

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Reply #7 posted 02/17/21 1:36pm

carlitoz

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PRNinPrint said:

https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

Thank you! I did get the actual PDF of the magazine itself. But i was expecting a review of the album to be also issued, but couldn't find one. I'll look into this google address you used for this just in case.

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Reply #8 posted 02/17/21 1:39pm

carlitoz

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PRNinPrint said:

https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

wow! Awesome website!!

I'll be having a lot of fun with it! Thanks!

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Reply #9 posted 02/17/21 1:50pm

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carlitoz said:

PRNinPrint said:

https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

wow! Awesome website!!

I'll be having a lot of fun with it! Thanks!

That is the interview. The review is a few issues back in RS 745.

I have a copy of the Emancipation review.

[Edited 2/17/21 14:15pm]

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Reply #10 posted 02/17/21 2:42pm

carlitoz

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PRNinPrint said:

carlitoz said:

wow! Awesome website!!

I'll be having a lot of fun with it! Thanks!

That is the interview. The review is a few issues back in RS 745.

I have a copy of the Emancipation review.

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Thank you again, print. I looked for it as you told me and saved it for my records, but it's not a review. It's not in the records section. It was more a short article saying Prince is in the studio recording Emancipation. It also was published before the release of the album. The actual section is "In the studio". But thanks anyway! Perhaps there was never an official review.

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Reply #11 posted 02/17/21 3:01pm

PRNinPrint

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carlitoz said:

PRNinPrint said:

That is the interview. The review is a few issues back in RS 745.

I have a copy of the Emancipation review.

[Edited 2/17/21 14:15pm]

Thank you again, print. I looked for it as you told me and saved it for my records, but it's not a review. It's not in the records section. It was more a short article saying Prince is in the studio recording Emancipation. It also was published before the release of the album. The actual section is "In the studio". But thanks anyway! Perhaps there was never an official review.

Oh, yeah that's right. I just got my 1996 folder out and read it after many years. More like a pre-review interview. lol I don't see a Eman review for RS in my stuff, and in my other stuff, and the stuff under that stuff...

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Reply #12 posted 02/17/21 3:33pm

bonnie184

https://www.albumoftheyea...ted/1996/2
A score of 80 would be a 4 star review, I suppose?
I remember USA Today crowned it album of the year.
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Reply #13 posted 02/17/21 7:07pm

runningbear

I don't think RS did review Emancipation, a bit odd

Here is the previously awesome website, there are reviews for a ton of Prince records, mostly including RS, now I get quirky add over top in seconds

https://princetext.tripod.com/

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Reply #14 posted 02/17/21 7:15pm

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runningbear said:

I don't think RS did review Emancipation, a bit odd

Here is the previously awesome website, there are reviews for a ton of Prince records, mostly including RS, now I get quirky add over top in seconds

https://princetext.tripod.com/

Ohh, that website... look and click quick!

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Reply #15 posted 02/18/21 1:24am

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idk if i would care that much about what RS had to say about prince in this period.

they werent really that sharp.

tbh after a certain period many critics seemed to be pretty weak on reviewing his albums, it was either too blindly positive, or too lazily negative.

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Reply #16 posted 02/18/21 1:49am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

idk if i would care that much about what RS had to say about prince in this period.

they werent really that sharp.

tbh after a certain period many critics seemed to be pretty weak on reviewing his albums, it was either too blindly positive, or too lazily negative.

Agreed, and Rolling Stone as an institution had fairly lost it after by 1990 if not 1985, barely anyone under 30 was reading it at that point. Good individual writers but no longer a powerful force, and it's not a magazine that got its power from the margins so if it's not the center of culture what is it exactly?

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Reply #17 posted 02/18/21 2:14am

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bonnie184 said:

I remember USA Today crowned it album of the year.

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IIRC the reviews of Prince albums in USA Today were done by a fan who often contributed to The Prince Family newsletter; it was said she'd give a five star review to Prince releasing an album of him farting in a bucket for an hour.

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Reply #18 posted 02/18/21 2:17am

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runningbear said:

I don't think RS did review Emancipation, a bit odd

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It's not odd. RS only did a handful of reviews per magazine, and they only published an issue every forthnight, so in the end they only reviewed a selection of all released albums. Magazines like Q often boasted of having 100+ reviews each month, so RS's approach would miss out on plenty of music.

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(Then again, them skipping an album is kind of a sign as well.)

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Reply #19 posted 02/18/21 2:35am

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the most accurate take on this was in an interview with the face

https://theface.com/archive/prince-the-face-archive-emmancipation-paisley-park

Emancipation is the record that Prince claims expresses who he is more fully than any previous album. Yet I find listening to it an unsatisfying experience. It is too polished, too pristine, stripped clean of the filth and the funk that characterised his earlier work. In the same way that I found talking to him frustrating, it is equally disappointing to listen to his latest work, because where there was once honesty, abandon, exposure, there is now surface and silence in place of a beating, vital heart.

whole piece is really worth reading.

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Reply #20 posted 02/18/21 3:06am

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BartVanHemelen said:

runningbear said:

I don't think RS did review Emancipation, a bit odd

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It's not odd. RS only did a handful of reviews per magazine, and they only published an issue every forthnight, so in the end they only reviewed a selection of all released albums. Magazines like Q often boasted of having 100+ reviews each month, so RS's approach would miss out on plenty of music.

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(Then again, them skipping an album is kind of a sign as well.)

ok, not unusual that they only reviewed a mere fraction of all records produced

But in terms of a major artist, in this case Prince, Rolling stone up to 2001 reviewed every major Prince release except For You, Black album, Emancipation and maybe the Vault, there were a lot of RS Prince reviews to be had

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Reply #21 posted 02/18/21 3:11am

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RJOrion said:

Rolling Stone Magazine reviewing black music has always been a joke and a farce

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exactly

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #22 posted 02/18/21 3:19am

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BartVanHemelen said:

bonnie184 said:

I remember USA Today crowned it album of the year.

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IIRC the reviews of Prince albums in USA Today were done by a fan who often contributed to The Prince Family newsletter; it was said she'd give a five star review to Prince releasing an album of him farting in a bucket for an hour.

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If the range of his farts equals the range of his voice, I'd like to hear that album.
Maybe the best album of the nineties, who knows. wink

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #23 posted 02/18/21 11:58am

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Vannormal said:



BartVanHemelen said:




bonnie184 said:


I remember USA Today crowned it album of the year.

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IIRC the reviews of Prince albums in USA Today were done by a fan who often contributed to The Prince Family newsletter; it was said she'd give a five star review to Prince releasing an album of him farting in a bucket for an hour.



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If the range of his farts equals the range of his voice, I'd like to hear that album.
Maybe the best album of the nineties, who knows. wink


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Camille "the best of the farts"
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Reply #24 posted 02/18/21 4:30pm

RJOrion

Prince did record and release "farts in a bucket"... it was packaged as the Apollonia 6 album.
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Reply #25 posted 02/18/21 7:53pm

runningbear

I thought Rolling Stone was very respective and appreciative of Prince's talents in their reviews and year end awards UNTIL

a 2 star review of Come...

Indeed, portions of Come, including “Space” and “Loose!,” exhibit so little creativity, you wonder whether they were born during studio catnap

After this nonsense, why bother reviewing Prince's records objectively, really

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Reply #26 posted 02/19/21 3:23am

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runningbear said:

After this nonsense, why bother reviewing Prince's records objectively, really

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ALL REVIEWS ARE SUBJECTIVE.

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Sheesh, that I have to inform someone of this blatantly obvious fact in 2021...

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Reply #27 posted 02/19/21 6:46am

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RJOrion said:

Prince did record and release "farts in a bucket"... it was packaged as the Apollonia 6 album.

It's STILL the only album i never purchased.

i don't even have a bootleg of it lol

i only have the "Sex Shooter" 12" single.

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Reply #28 posted 02/19/21 12:20pm

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PRNinPrint said:

https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996

The fact that he thought Jimmy Jam would be intimidated by Get Yo Groove On razz

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Reply #29 posted 02/19/21 12:58pm

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MendesCity said:



PRNinPrint said:


https://sites.google.com/...ember-1996





The fact that he thought Jimmy Jam would be intimidated by Get Yo Groove On razz




yeah P was having delusions of grandeur at that moment...Get Your Groove On is no where near as good as MOST of Jimmy and Terry's average work...not even close...the interviewer should have given P a firm side-eye after P said he gonna roll up in Jimmys driveway playing that weak song...
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