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OldFriends4Sal
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New Power music of 1989ish period

Prince had a lot of music coming out of Paisley Park in this period. In so many directions.
I did notice, a lot of it sounded alike. The beats and the sounds weren't as diverse. And not much 'melody'.
That's something Sheila E said she noticed during the 88-89 period that a lot of the music didn't have melodies like before.

I think if there was some heavy follow through, it still could have been an interesting period with 'proteges' and a movie attachment.

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Sheila E

Margie Cox

Anna Fantastic

Robin Power and the Uptown Dames
Elisa Fiorillo
Sheena Easton

Kahoru Kohiruimaki

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I've put together a playist of songs from the list above,

including a few the Time piece, Brown Mark, Jill Jones, Are You My Baby(W&L)-just because and Madonna

It paints an interesting background/behind the scenes picture



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Prince’s new, powerful, minimalist approach reduces his past innovations to passing (but often pivotal) references, trashes the notion that a song must address only one subject and obliterates barriers between musical styles.
(Philadelphia Inquirer, 08/19/1990)

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Reply #1 posted 02/04/21 12:56pm

OldFriends4Sal
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PAISLEY PARK

FUSCIA LIGHT
GIRL POWER
GIRL POWER (instrumental)
SOUL COMPANY

STICKY WICKED
SHALL WE DANCE

Are You My Baby?
LoVe 89
MY SUMMERTIME THANG
THEIVES IN THE TEMPLE (Remix)
Act of Contrition

18 (R U LEGAL YET?)
BLISS
BED OF ROSES

BIG HOUSE

YO MISTER

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Reply #2 posted 02/04/21 3:04pm

thebanishedone

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I agree 1988-1989 Prince at his leaat melodic
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Reply #3 posted 02/05/21 5:57pm

LoveGalore

Still some bangers in this era tho. Cool Love, Love '89, Flesh and Blood, etc.
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Reply #4 posted 02/06/21 5:23am

OldFriends4Sal
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LoveGalore said:

Still some bangers in this era tho. Cool Love, Love '89, Flesh and Blood, etc.

Oh definately. Like I said, I'm really enjoying a lot of these songs from the post Lovesexy 88 89 period

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Reply #5 posted 02/06/21 8:48am

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Can you describe more of what you mean by "less melodic"? I've seen the quote before but I don't really understand it in relation to his previous music. Always just felt like sour grapes from Sheila.

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Reply #6 posted 02/06/21 11:15am

LoveGalore

billymeade said:

Can you describe more of what you mean by "less melodic"? I've seen the quote before but I don't really understand it in relation to his previous music. Always just felt like sour grapes from Sheila.



Pretty sure she meant there weren't as many strong hooks.loke Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Take Me With U, Kiss type strong hooks.
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Reply #7 posted 02/06/21 11:19am

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LoveGalore said:

billymeade said:

Can you describe more of what you mean by "less melodic"? I've seen the quote before but I don't really understand it in relation to his previous music. Always just felt like sour grapes from Sheila.

Pretty sure she meant there weren't as many strong hooks.loke Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Take Me With U, Kiss type strong hooks.

an arrangement of different notes in structured patterns on lead instruments, bassline, and lead vocal.

As opposed to repreating the same single note, or repetitious short note phrases like a mantra (very popular today) and emphasizing the beat.

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Reply #8 posted 02/06/21 2:54pm

thebanishedone

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ufoclub said:



LoveGalore said:


billymeade said:

Can you describe more of what you mean by "less melodic"? I've seen the quote before but I don't really understand it in relation to his previous music. Always just felt like sour grapes from Sheila.



Pretty sure she meant there weren't as many strong hooks.loke Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Take Me With U, Kiss type strong hooks.


an arrangement of different notes in structured patterns on lead instruments, bassline, and lead vocal.



As opposed to repreating the same single note, or repetitious short note phrases like a mantra (very popular today) and emphasizing the beat.


Perfect answer. smile . 88 89 era have strong melodic hooks on instruments but there is no melody in the vocals .i think Prince was chasing a new ground .a new experimental phase of his career where the melodic content is carried within song arrangement and not the voice like it usualy is
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Reply #9 posted 02/08/21 5:36am

OldFriends4Sal
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BIG HOUSE

When I was a little bitty baby
Tell U what my mama used to say
All the little babies who loved Him
Pray to God each day

I hope that God is in the Big House
'Cause I'm taking all my friends with me
One day we going to party in glory
One day we're gonna all be free

I used to pray for candy
And the single of my favorite band
Now that I'm older
So much bolder
I just wanna shake his hand
Aaaaaa ooh!

I hope that God is in the Big House
Because Im taking all my friends with me
One day we going to party in glory
One day we're gonna all be free
Free!

Big House

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It was included on a 27 October 1988 configuration of the Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic album, which was later abandoned. -Prince Vault

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Reply #10 posted 02/09/21 10:29am

OldFriends4Sal
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Reply #11 posted 02/09/21 2:08pm

paisleypark4

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billymeade said:

Can you describe more of what you mean by "less melodic"? I've seen the quote before but I don't really understand it in relation to his previous music. Always just felt like sour grapes from Sheila.



Love 89 for example. Theres things happening but not a melody and chorus to ride on...Love 89 which is built off of The Line is an odd one as well because The Line itself is a much more melodic and interesting track.

Lemon Crush, Batdance, The Future are more musical experiences than melodic tracks and funk workouts. He was more so having fun in the studio with new equipment in my opinion rather than pleasing the crowd.

However, he will have a brief period of righteousness with "Get Blue" for example. A sexy and seductive slow jam he eventually gave to Louie...and "Allegiance" given to Howard Hewitt, and "If Eye Love U 2Nite" to Mica. Not sure why he chose to give those away when they are clearly gems and would have worked on any album.

This issue is probably why he chose to put out unreleased songs on Grafitti Bridge. I think he was overworked and needed a break.
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #12 posted 02/15/21 1:21pm

funkypixie

I think maybe he had his eye (and ear) on New Jack Swing which was blowing up at the time and trying to develop his own verson of that. New Jack Swing isn't super melodic and puts the focus squarely on rhythm.

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Reply #13 posted 03/02/21 6:01am

OldFriends4Sal
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FUSCHIA LIGHT

Get it
Get it

Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I'ma get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I'ma get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it

So here we r n the same position
U've had ur turn, now U want mine n addition
U r my dear, my goddess so bad
4 U something fun, something new

Over ur shoulder and over my head
Pretty fuchsia light shines n our bed
It makes me touch U better than I normally would
It makes me touch U more and that makes it good

Fuchsia light (ooh), I'ma get it, I'ma get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light (oh), I'ma get it, I wanna get it, yeah
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it

(Ooh girl) When I say I love U and that I'll always b here
Cuz when our pretty fuchsia light appears
It stands 4 the symbol of monogamy and trust
It stands 4 love, it stands 4 lust
Maybe 1 day parties will b of 1 mind
But until then I'll pretend this fuchsia light is dark

Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I'ma get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it

Over ur shoulder and over my head
Pretty fuchsia light shines n our bed
It makes me touch U better than I normally would
It makes me touch U more and that makes it good

Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I'ma get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it

U can starve 2 hearts if preserved from 2 hearts of stone
(Fuchsia) No other light of fuchsia (light) is 2 ever walk alone

Fuchsia light, I'ma get it
Fuchsia light, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light (oh), I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it, I wanna get it
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it (yeah), I wanna get it

Over ur shoulder and over my head (Fuchsia light, I'ma get it)
Pretty fuchsia light shines n our bed (Fuchsia, fuchsia)
It makes me touch U better than I normally would (All 2gether)
It makes me touch U more and that makes it good

Fuchsia light, I'ma get it (fuchsia), I wanna get it
Fuchsia light (oh), I'ma get it, I wanna get it (Right now)
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it (yeah), I wanna get it (Oh yeah)
Fuchsia light, I'ma get it (so funky), I wanna get it (Ooh)

Unreleased track recorded on April 15, 1988 for possible use on Tony LeMans' Paisley Park album (1989). Written by Prince.


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Reply #14 posted 03/17/21 9:16am

OldFriends4Sal
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The sessions with Margie Cox I think had a good chance of making some headway in 1989-90. He should have put the effort he put on Carmen Electra into Margie. According to PrinceVault they did open for Prince a few times


MC Flash

1. R U There?

2. Brand New Boy

3. Warden in the Prison of Love

4. Bed of Roses

5. Good Man

6. Whistlin Kenny

7. We Can Hang

8. Curious Blue

9. Girls Will Be Girls

10 Good Body Every Evening



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Reply #15 posted 03/17/21 4:13pm

fortuneandsere
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He ran out of Vitamin D and when you run out of Vitamin D you run out of melodies- what happens when you lock yourself in a studio and avoid the sun.

And at that time he was also working on The Witcher 3 soundtrack with Marcin Przybytowicz.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #16 posted 03/18/21 5:55am

OldFriends4Sal
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YO MISTER

Oh, mister how's your daughter?
You really ought to know
For every thing you taught her
Don't matter when she's all alone
My crazy friend named Cara
After all of us told her, ?No?
S-s-she'd get another spoon ball
Now, she's going no where slow
Her papa caught her for the first time
And put her out on the street
Cara told me to remind him
That she was only seventeen
Yo, mister how's your daughter? how's your girl?
You really ought to know
Every thing you taught her
It don't matter when she's all alone
Cara got hooked up with the wrong kids
Then s-s-she started skipping school
Then Cara got high to make disappear
A world full of fools
In her eyes her father was the biggest fool of them all
And she was speeding, that's what she?d say
Maybe, maybe, maybe she wouldn't talk so stupid
If she knew how much she needed this fool today
Yo, mister how's your daughter?
You really ought to know
For every thing you taught her
Don't matter when she's all alone
She needs you right now mister
?Cause she ain't got long to live
It?s so easy to say, ?I love you?
But it?s harder to forgive
Her father cried when I told him that Cara twice got knocked up
He said, ?Just like her mama, aha, she shows her body
When she wants to show love, she tried that stuff with me
And I beat her down, there's no way I could let her stay
Couldn't let her stick around ?
?Cause I tried so hard to raise her right
He said, ?What made her turn out this way?, I don't know
What made her turn out this way, I don't know, I don't know
And I said and I said and I said
Yo, mister how's your daughter?
You really ought to know, every thing
Every thing you taught her
Don't matter when she's all alone
But she needs you right now mister
She ain't got long to live
It?s easy to say, ?I love you?
But it?s harder to forgive
(How?s your daughter tonight?)
Yo, mister how's your daughter?
(How?s your daughter tonight?)
Yo, mister how's your daughter?
(How?s your daughter tonight?)
Yo, mister how's your daughter?
(How?s your daughter tonight?)
Yo, mister how's your daughter?
(How?s your daughter tonight?)

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Reply #17 posted 03/18/21 6:37am

fortuneandsere
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LoveGalore said:

Still some bangers in this era tho. Cool Love, Love '89, Flesh and Blood, etc.

Love '89, Flesh and Blood are a bit rubbish by P standards. There's better music recorded in the vault around this time.

Cool Love, great pop song, was done with Prince still in his 20s, so not really New Power period.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #18 posted 03/18/21 11:52am

OldFriends4Sal
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fortuneandserendipity said:

LoveGalore said:

Still some bangers in this era tho. Cool Love, Love '89, Flesh and Blood, etc.

Love '89, Flesh and Blood are a bit rubbish by P standards. There's better music recorded in the vault around this time.

Cool Love, great pop song, was done with Prince still in his 20s, so not really New Power period.

I actually love listening to Love 89. Very high energy. If feels like it could have been a B side to Dance With the Devil (if that was released)

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Reply #19 posted 03/19/21 12:53am

JorisE73

fortuneandserendipity said:

He ran out of Vitamin D and when you run out of Vitamin D you run out of melodies- what happens when you lock yourself in a studio and avoid the sun.

And at that time he was also working on The Witcher 3 soundtrack with Marcin Przybytowicz.


??? This is new to me. Prince is on the Witcher 3 soundtrack??? Played the game 3 times and love the soundtrack but I don't never heard any Prince on it.
Do you have an link?

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Reply #20 posted 03/19/21 1:11pm

fortuneandsere
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JorisE73 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

He ran out of Vitamin D and when you run out of Vitamin D you run out of melodies- what happens when you lock yourself in a studio and avoid the sun.

And at that time he was also working on The Witcher 3 soundtrack with Marcin Przybytowicz.


??? This is new to me. Prince is on the Witcher 3 soundtrack??? Played the game 3 times and love the soundtrack but I don't never heard any Prince on it.
Do you have an link?


Prince is responsible for many witchy crones. He came up with the cackles exhibited in the game. Ya know those cackling samples? Prescient too, considering this was 1989. As always, ahead of his time.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #21 posted 03/22/21 5:34am

OldFriends4Sal
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SOUL COMPANY - Sheila E

Left, right
Left, right, company dance

The company had class, the company had style
Soul company, "We're fine," with a smile
The company could dance, the company could rap
Company & "Top of the charts" all over the map
Introducing, if U please
Hard brother, sister fears soul company
Red's their favorite color cuz they like 2 bleed
Not the biggest fun but brand us soul company
If U let them touch U & adore
U will B evicted 2 the 2 & 4
Soul company, soul company

Soul company, soul company
They like the attention, they like 2 bleed
It only makes them stronger
It only makes ur dancin' feet hurt longer

Left, right, left, right
Left, right, company dance
Left, right, left, right
Left, right, company dance
Soul company, soul company
Soul company, company halt, sing!

The company had class, the company had style
Soul company, "We're fine," with a smile
The company could dance, the company could rap
Company & "Top of the charts" all over the map
Introducing, if U please
Hard brother, sister fears Sheila E.

Cry, baby, on my good name
My bad day, need 2 dance
Play ur guitar, Sonny
Se-Sergeant
Se-Sergeant, 10-hut! (Yes sir!)

Lima beans?
It's time 4 cakes

On the double
Left, right, left, right
Left, right, company dance
Left, right, left, right
Left, right, company dance
Soul company, soul company

Soul company, soul company
Soul company, oh, soul company
Left, right, left, right
Company halt
At ease

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Reply #22 posted 03/23/21 4:51pm

TheKid94

OldFriends4Sale said:

The sessions with Margie Cox I think had a good chance of making some headway in 1989-90. He should have put the effort he put on Carmen Electra into Margie. According to PrinceVault they did open for Prince a few times


MC Flash

1. R U There?

2. Brand New Boy

3. Warden in the Prison of Love

4. Bed of Roses

5. Good Man

6. Whistlin Kenny

7. We Can Hang

8. Curious Blue

9. Girls Will Be Girls

10 Good Body Every Evening



Warden in the Prison of Love!

prince
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Reply #23 posted 03/23/21 5:11pm

TheKid94

I love this era quite a bit for some reason. I dug the new sounds he was using; while they aren't perfect, they all try something new....you can hear him searching or maybe just getting the last bit of drum machine addiction out of his system before fully immersing into the NPG.

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There's something about the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic '89 project that entices me.

I imagine this period replacing Grafitti Bridge and entering him into the 90's a lil mo' betta.

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I feel like if that album had been carefully and artistically compiled he could've build off the commercial appeal from the Batman album. Combining the best of the updated vault tracks from GB and adding some highlights from this era would've been fantastic.

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& the '89 SNL Band was a fucking treasure and a worthy successor to the Lovesexy Band.

Margie Cox, Patrice Rushen & Candy Dulfer is just *chef's kiss

prince
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Reply #24 posted 03/23/21 5:34pm

jfenster

Was this when lubricated lady..love left etc were made???
They r unusual b sides for GB
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Reply #25 posted 03/23/21 10:01pm

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I feel like everyone is dancing around the issue with this era though... "less melodic" = the absence of Wendy & Lisa. Yeah, I said it.

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Reply #26 posted 03/24/21 1:10am

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eduJ said:

I feel like everyone is dancing around the issue with this era though... "less melodic" = the absence of Wendy & Lisa. Yeah, I said it.


This.

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Reply #27 posted 03/27/21 8:10am

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dustoff said:

eduJ said:

I feel like everyone is dancing around the issue with this era though... "less melodic" = the absence of Wendy & Lisa. Yeah, I said it.


This.

well i don't connect W and L as the melody providers. but the melodic contect got weak 1988-1990

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Reply #28 posted 03/27/21 10:49am

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thebanishedone said:

dustoff said:


This.

well i don't connect W and L as the melody providers. but the melodic contect got weak 1988-1990

Yeah, love W&L and the music they created with Prince, but there are tons of great melodies which predate them

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Reply #29 posted 03/27/21 4:43pm

jfenster

Maybe people r trying not to mention those 2
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