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Bridge of Graffiti -1988-1989

SILVER STREET somewhere iN the CITY OF QUARTER NOTES

And Camille finds yet another color...

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So I've been exploring what was to be Graffiti Bridge Bridge of Graffiti again.As well as other non GB soundtrack outtakes-that will be a different thread.
From a different view.
I'm finding I'm more interested(probably expected) in what could have been and what was in the works, over what actually was. Graffiti Bridge as released did absolutely nothing for me. It did yield Theives In the Temple. Which I really love as a 'classic' Prince song. I can even call it Purple Music. But I think there is something in me that would have enjoyed "Bridge of Graffiti" (what I'm calling the original movie concept and music tracks). I think I would love to have a movie that continued the Lovesexy new power with the band (and of course some new characters that came along).
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I did a different thread that focused more on the Time Pandemonium/Corporate World and the film they originally had conceived. Now I'm check on this direction. I don't know if it was thought out yet, but did Sheila E have a band in preperation for her 4th album?
The released and unreleased boots/snippets that I have I'm listening through. I think it had a more Prince feel that the GB soundtrack doesn't give me...
Also reading the original script ... and trying to catch the different characters. Can U help?

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0+> original songs intended 4 the movie


The ROCK THAT KEEPS ROLLING
BLOODY MOUTH
BEATOWN
* BIG TALL WALL
* BORN FREE
BRIDGE OF GRAFFITI
CAMILLE

* CRUCIAL
ELEPHANTS & FLOWERS
EVERYTHING COULD BE SO FINE
GOD IS ALIVE
THE GRAND PROGRESSION
* MELODY COOL
MY TREE A Positive Place (MAVIS STAPLES)
MY TREE A Positive Place (Robin Power)
* POWER FANTASTIC
PEOPLE WITHOUT
THE QUESTION OF U

RUTHIE WASHINGTON JET BLUES
STILL WOULD STAND ALL TIME
THEIVES IN THE TEMPLE
THE VOICE INSIDE
WE GOT THE POWER

PRINCE
MADONNA

CAT

SHEILA E
JOSHUA

SAX (ERIC?)

ALMOST

LEVI

MIKO
WALLY & GREGORY
MAVIS STAPLES

BONI BOYER

the Game Boyz?

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engineer Heidi Hanschu
engineer Chuck Zwicky
engineer Femi Jiya

engineers Michael Koppelman
engineers Tom Garneau
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Prince dreams his childlike utopia, but wraps it up in music that, by and large, belongs to the most colorful, exciting and strong in his body of work.
(OOR 17, Dutch magazine, 08/25/1990)

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Reply #1 posted 02/04/21 12:39pm

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The original GB script Camille poem:

Once upon a time in a land called REAL,

there lived a musician whose name was CAMILLE.

Now CAMILLE was very much like I and U except 4 one thing so unavoidably true

--CAMILLE my brothers & sisters was unmistakebly BLUE.

CAMILLE was the leader of a rock n roll gang. No one could mess with him --

I mean no one could hang.

He could listen 2 our thang, then he'd play it triple time.
CAMILLE got changes that'll scramble your mind just like an egg.

But Camille - he's so lonely & blue.

His best girl, RUTHIE, left in '82.

She went off 2 find the GRAND PROGRESSION

-- a song that would change CAMILLE'S complexion.
Now every year,

he waits 4 RUTHIE's return 2 come & show him every thing that she has learned.

CAMILLE wnats 2 find GRAFFITI BRIDGE.

GRAFFITI BRIDGE - a bridge of many colors.

A bridge that leads 2 a better land than REAL.

All colors unfied where u live 4 love until u die.

Where there are no leaders and there are no stars.

RUTHIE we love u wherever u are.

Everybody's looking 4 a better land than REAL.

Everybody wants 2 find GRAFFITI BRIDGE.

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Reply #2 posted 02/04/21 12:52pm

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Image result for Camille poem from Graffiti Bridge script

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Reply #3 posted 02/05/21 8:54am

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Well...this is certainly a labor of love. Whatever this thread is. smile

It's been gone over a lot but GB was killed by:

- being a double album with too much filler
- A god awful embarassing movie

Pandemonium was a pretty great Time album I thought.

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Reply #4 posted 02/05/21 8:56am

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We were hoodwinked.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #5 posted 02/06/21 6:48am

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herb4 said:

Well...this is certainly a labor of love. Whatever this thread is. smile

It's been gone over a lot but GB was killed by:

- being a double album with too much filler
- A god awful embarassing movie

Pandemonium was a pretty great Time album I thought.

Have U heard Bridge of Graffiti?

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And I agree with your 3 points.
This whole thing makes me wonder what a TIME movie could have been like. UTCM always does that to me. I can see Morris Day, Jerome/Tricky and the Time in that movie.

lol yeah it's a labor of love lol

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Cat (Glover): Prince, Madonna and I were the original lineup for Graffiti Bridge. That movie was strictly written for Prince, Madonna and myself. Period. Exclamation point.

That movie was actually written on the Lovesexy Tour. Everyone in that movie replaced us. Prince actually wrote the movie and most of it was what we experienced on the Lovesexy Tour. Madonna pulled out of the movie and I left Prince; I quit. So, he had to revamp the script.

That's when he got Ingrid Chavez and everyone else. But, Mavis Staples was one person that was originally supposed to be in the movie. She was always part of the movie. Sheila E. was part of the movie. Everyone else was a replacement. I don't mean to say it that way, it sounds kind of harsh and mean, but, I know the original script.

I was in the studio with Madonna and Prince when they were discussing the script. The story was totally different. I remember they were arguing over the script, bragging on each other, talking about each other's shoes and I was laughing. Madonna said to Prince "Cat and I should have a dance battle" and Prince said (speaking in a low raspy voice) "I don't think so. I don't think you want to do that. I don't think you want to dance against Cat." That's just how he said it. I'll never forget it.
That was two powerful people, together, in the same space—and me. I was more like a bystander listening and watching.

But, the whole movie changed.

Image result for Cat Glover 1989

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Reply #7 posted 02/06/21 7:46am

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2freaky4church1 said:

We were hoodwinked.


Bamboozled...took.

No, I've never heard of Bridge of Graffiti so that's on me

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Prince - Letter to Madonna (facebook.com)

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Reply #9 posted 02/08/21 10:10am

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Wow, that letter tho.
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Reply #10 posted 02/08/21 10:22am

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Pretty penmanship and no Eye or U or shit.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #11 posted 02/08/21 1:16pm

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Pretty penmanship and no Eye or U or shit.


I could (4) U's? eek

Madonna was right to stay away from this movie, but who knows what it could've been like with her in it.

I'll say this again: Prince's acting in the movie is actually very good. He's surrounded by Aura (who cannot act), Morris & Jerome's slapstick schtick, and a shoe-horned "Purple Rain 2" plot.

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Reply #12 posted 02/08/21 4:09pm

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So is the 2 HR 40 minute version a 3rd story? Or a lengthy version of the released one?
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jfenster said:

So is the 2 HR 40 minute version a 3rd story? Or a lengthy version of the released one?

idk I'm thinking the latter

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Reply #14 posted 02/09/21 7:05pm

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jfenster said:


So is the 2 HR 40 minute version a 3rd story? Or a lengthy version of the released one?



idk I'm thinking the latter


Supposedly this was screened in LA ...
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Reply #15 posted 02/14/21 5:12pm

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So is the 2 HR 40 minute version a 3rd story? Or a lengthy version of the released one?

Has this ever been verified??

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Reply #16 posted 02/15/21 1:23pm

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NEW track 21 guns piano demo, no not the green day song, don't even think about it.

this is one you WILL NOT want to miss

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Reply #17 posted 02/15/21 9:47pm

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NEW track 21 guns piano demo, no not the green day song, don't even think about it.

this is one you WILL NOT want to miss

I love outtakes like this one so much-- just him screwing around on the piano, working out new stuff. This is great.

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Reply #18 posted 02/15/21 11:39pm

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lustmealways said:

NEW track 21 guns piano demo, no not the green day song, don't even think about it.

this is one you WILL NOT want to miss


I just listened to it. It's not on princevault ? From which period is this ?
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Reply #19 posted 02/16/21 6:39am

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lustmealways said:

NEW track 21 guns piano demo, no not the green day song, don't even think about it.

this is one you WILL NOT want to miss

I just listened to it. It's not on princevault ? From which period is this ?

[Edited 4/3/21 16:50pm]

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May be an image of text

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Reply #21 posted 02/16/21 10:25am

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I have the correct names attached to the characters now

PRINCE (CAMILLE)
MADONNA (RUTHIE)

CAT (VIENNA)-

SHEILA E (ANGEL)
WALLY & GREGORY (GRUFF & PUFF)
ATLANTA BLISS (JOSHUA (I heard his name called out in WE GOT THE POWER))

ERIC LEEDS (SAX)

DR FINK (ALMOST)

LEVI as (LEVI)the BROTHERS))

MIKO as (MIKO)the BROTHERS))
MELODY COOL (MAVIS STAPLES)

BONI BOYER (BIG SISTER)

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Melody Cool: "The birdy said Camille is a very smart fine musician [Camille beams] who has a bad habit of forgetting who his friends are. Let me tell U a story. I had a friend once ..."

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Reply #23 posted 02/16/21 12:12pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Melody Cool: "The birdy said Camille is a very smart fine musician [Camille beams] who has a bad habit of forgetting who his friends are. Let me tell U a story. I had a friend once ..."

[Edited 4/3/21 16:51pm]

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chuleBalam said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Melody Cool: "The birdy said Camille is a very smart fine musician [Camille beams] who has a bad habit of forgetting who his friends are. Let me tell U a story. I had a friend once ..."

i have some of the print out pages from the auction site, and several of the handwritten pages, does anyone have a whole set of either or both?

I have most of the typed pages for the first movie draft

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Reply #25 posted 02/16/21 12:36pm

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This project seems like a mess eek I really think that Prince should have brought in screenwriters and a director.Storytelling wasn’t one of his strengths.
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Reply #26 posted 02/17/21 4:22am

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If there had been no 'and friends' tracks and he'd insteadmqde a single CD with the brilliant pandemonium as a second disc, this would be top 10 instead of bottom 10 for me.
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Reply #27 posted 02/17/21 7:47am

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This will be like the wizard of oz someday
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SoulAlive said:

This project seems like a mess eek I really think that Prince should have brought in screenwriters and a director.Storytelling wasn’t one of his strengths.

Yeah, I don't think the first script was as bad as the released movie.

If Prince did what you said, and did it more like the SOTT movie, then it might have worked.

I would have been more interested, if the Lovesexy band was in the movie too

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Reply #29 posted 02/18/21 4:37am

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Isn't this movie his FIGHT CLUB?
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