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Reply #30 posted 01/07/21 2:22am

funkbabyandthe
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Also he was competitive AF
Hed see these other artists selling up and want to get the same big payday
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Reply #31 posted 01/07/21 8:47am

Margot

Prince was known to change his mind or the terms of an 'agreement' many times.

Perhaps he could have sold a portion of his rights but it would have been an uphill struggle for all concerned.

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Reply #32 posted 01/08/21 9:27am

Vannormal

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JorisE73 said:

Margot said:

He may have considered it but I can't see him giving up 'his children.'


For the right price he would sell his "children" in a heartbeat.

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Exactly ! smile))

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #33 posted 01/09/21 4:53pm

MIInsane

tab32792 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

1. Doubtful he would have gotten that much money.

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2. Considering that Prince left the excellent Warner-Chappell, he already proved he was a lousy businessman. Sure, he signed up with another great company, but there was really no reason to leave WC. Of course, some years before his death he left the other company, and set up... his own. Considering that Prince's business ventures were all miserable failures, and considering that he had zero experience with handling such complicated things as Publishing, who knows what blunders have been made in those few years NPG Publishing was in charge. Of course, after his death his Estate quickly signed a deal with Universal.

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On a side note: Dylan's catalog goes back to 1962. IMHO the copyrights on such old songs should have ended looong ago. I find it absurd that a company is now paying him $300 million to exploit these songs, becasue they're still under copyright until 70 years after Dylan's death. That is IMHO absurd.

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https://www.futurelearn.c...eps/105723

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A YT video on copyright I saw recently argued that a much more sensible time would be 50 years max, and preferably less. That would mean we could now get really creative with the earlier work of The Beatles for instance, or tons of other songs. Instead, we're still massively constrained. And all because a handful of major companies have bought off politicans to change these rules to our detriment, all so they could make money. The joint efforts of Disney and Sonny Bono means works from 1924 (!) only entered the public domain this year. That is ridiculous.

jesus christ. why are you even here anymore? do you even like the man? lol i've never seen a positive post from you in the 15 years or so i've been on this site.

You might not like Bart, but he's not wrong.

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Reply #34 posted 01/09/21 5:08pm

Margot

MIInsane said:

tab32792 said:

jesus christ. why are you even here anymore? do you even like the man? lol i've never seen a positive post from you in the 15 years or so i've been on this site.

You might not like Bart, but he's not wrong.

Bart is not indifferent re:Prince.

I think he is quite attached to Prince in a tough-love sort of way.

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Reply #35 posted 01/10/21 3:15am

udo

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

im going to say yes

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Hell no.

He would not want to lose his 'children'.

He would perceive the sum the bidders proposed an insult.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #36 posted 01/10/21 10:51am

laytonian

IF he could have sold his publishing FOR THE MOST AMOUNT EVER, he may have done so. After all, that disastrous 1990s era contract was created to "beat Madonna"...and obviously, he didn't think it through.

But selling his publishing doesn't mean he'd have sold his masters. He fought too hard for them.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #37 posted 01/10/21 3:58pm

Margot

laytonian said:

IF he could have sold his publishing FOR THE MOST AMOUNT EVER, he may have done so. After all, that disastrous 1990s era contract was created to "beat Madonna"...and obviously, he didn't think it through.

But selling his publishing doesn't mean he'd have sold his masters. He fought too hard for them.

Yes, he was quite competitive.

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Reply #38 posted 01/11/21 2:46am

JorisE73

udo said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

im going to say yes

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Hell no.

He would not want to lose his 'children'.

He would perceive the sum the bidders proposed an insult.


Before his death he was negotiating his publishing rights with Universal so not so impossibel.

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Reply #39 posted 01/11/21 4:08am

udo

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JorisE73 said:

udo said:

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Hell no.

He would not want to lose his 'children'.

He would perceive the sum the bidders proposed an insult.


Before his death he was negotiating his publishing rights with Universal so not so impossibel.

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Publishing is not 'all rights'.

Right?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #40 posted 01/11/21 4:24am

JorisE73

udo said:

JorisE73 said:


Before his death he was negotiating his publishing rights with Universal so not so impossibel.

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Publishing is not 'all rights'.

Right?


Yes. But if Prince was negotiating his publishing for the right price then I would bet he would easily sell all his rights for the right price. He was full aware that he couldn't take his music with him in death so i think he would have sold it if someone offered him a billion Euros.

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Reply #41 posted 01/11/21 8:07am

udo

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Didn't Bowie lease his whole catalogue to Sony?

Oh, no:

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The term "Bowie Bond" was coined in 1997 when the musician raised $55 million by promising investors income generated by his back catalog of 25 albums.

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Would that have worked for Prince?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #42 posted 01/11/21 2:55pm

jasopig

Another day, another ridiculous question.

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Reply #43 posted 01/14/21 11:28pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

Shakira just did it too.
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