LoveGalore said:

I wish I could hear this warble. I honestly don't. I've tried. Why does it sound perfectly normal to me?

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What do you use to listen to your music? Headphones? Speakers?

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But if it sounds good to you, just enjoy it and don't try to hear imperfections you haven't noticed. That would be masochism.

olb99 said:

LoveGalore said:

I wish I could hear this warble. I honestly don't. I've tried. Why does it sound perfectly normal to me?

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What do you use to listen to your music? Headphones? Speakers?

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But if it sounds good to you, just enjoy it and don't try to hear imperfections you haven't noticed. That would be masochism.

Both headphones and speakers! Neither are trash, either. Believe me, I'm good with the ignorance generally speaking - the song sounds better to me now than ever in that I actually like it now. I used to hate it!

But I also experience tons of FOMO so everyone's cryin about warble and I wanna cry too!

olb99 said:

fredmagnus said:

olb99 said:

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Do you mean you hear the tape warble on the previously bootlegged version of "Wally"? Because I don't. I've checked the version on "Blast From The Past 4.0". The sound quality is horrible (mono, etc.), of course, but there's definitely no tape warble there. I'm now wondering if a multitrack tape exists for "Wally".

There is no tape warble on the leak version. I'm gonna keep both versions one for the terrible Noise Reduction and compression and the latter for the tape warble There must be a reason why they didn't use the multitracks. [Edited 9/28/20 11:48am]

You're right. Damn.

cortez said:

Question about "Rebirth", hopefully this is a good place for it.

The boot version has a slightly different middle where he doesn't say the thing about wife -- but also seemed a little heavier(?) like the beat sounds a bit harder.

I'm wondering if anyone knows what I mean and if it is the mix or just the slightly distorted quality of the bootled that creates that effect

I'm with you - the bootleg just hits harder because the guitars and bass sound more prominent. This official version sounds thinner. And though the tacked on outro is clearly from a different source, I do prefer the sound/mix of the outro portion. Love having a clean version of this song but will prob still listen to the boot now and then.

databank said:

olb99 said:

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We know that the track was not mixed by Bolas. We know it's missing high frequencies (it's "lossy"). But, you're right, it doesn't mean the outro was not added in 2020 from different sources.

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Neversin knows the answer. It's a shame he's not here anymore...

I certainly hope they didn't make some frankenstein edit. But why do this if they had a master of it? As for the lossy tracks I still don't understand how this could have happened. I'm baffled.

Regarding the ending of Rebirth, I honestly don't think anyone would have noriced anything odd about it if that was the only version we knew.

Prince was also known for brutal editing at times. Typically Duane assumes that the butcher cut on If The Kid Can't Make You Come is the result of a sloppy, hasty job, but unless an engineers says otherwise I'm pretty sure it was an intentional decision to weird the track out. One can evoke the ending of I Don't Wanna Leave You or the brutal ending of Life Can Be So Nice for similar experiments.

Re: REBIRTH editing, I don't know... Frankly, I expected to be a gross overreaction before I heard it, but definitely via headphones it's just a jarring source shift.

SpookyPurple said:

databank said:

I certainly hope they didn't make some frankenstein edit. But why do this if they had a master of it? As for the lossy tracks I still don't understand how this could have happened. I'm baffled.

Regarding the ending of Rebirth, I honestly don't think anyone would have noriced anything odd about it if that was the only version we knew.

Prince was also known for brutal editing at times. Typically Duane assumes that the butcher cut on If The Kid Can't Make You Come is the result of a sloppy, hasty job, but unless an engineers says otherwise I'm pretty sure it was an intentional decision to weird the track out. One can evoke the ending of I Don't Wanna Leave You or the brutal ending of Life Can Be So Nice for similar experiments.

Re: REBIRTH editing, I don't know... Frankly, I expected to be a gross overreaction before I heard it, but definitely via headphones it's just a jarring source shift.

I'll listen more closely. I honestly don't know.

someone told me that a clean rip of the full Rebirth (as in the full thing without frankensteining) was leaked today.

lustmealways said:

someone told me that a clean rip of the full Rebirth (as in the full thing without frankensteining) was leaked today.

Now that'd be interesting

lustmealways said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Indeed it has. So how the fuck does the actual Prince estate not have access to this?

i would say "why haven't any of these people tried to get this material in the hands of the estate" but then i realize that a bunch of people have tried to do that a bunch of times and it never worked so fuck em, right?

[Edited 9/28/20 16:01pm]

lustmealways said:

parker said:

fredmagnus said:

billymeade said:

My guess is they did use the actual tape from the vault, and it is damaged. The leak we have is from a copy that was made before the master was damaged. So they had to decide between lowest possible generation or tape copy.

this is all fine and dandy, but transparency about that from the estate would be even more fine and dandy

lustmealways said:

databank said:

I mean yeah, Howe could say "sorry guys, tape's damaged". But what would it change in the end?

i just want to be angry about something :/

nah honestly i'm not fussed about this one. i think it sounds fine, i mean it's clear there's something wrong but it doesn't really bother me to the point of thinking "this needs to be addressed!" and it's not "wouldn't you love to love me" originals level to the point of "why the fuck did you choose to release this"

lustmealways said:

lustmealways said:

parker said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

lustmealways said:

someone told me that a clean rip of the full Rebirth (as in the full thing without frankensteining) was leaked today.

Indeed it has. So how the fuck does the actual Prince estate not have access to this?

Howe's downloading the MP3 to send to Bernie for mastering for the next set right now.

databank said:

Rebirth Of The Flesh is clearly an amalgamation of two versions - you can hear it as the mix changes, because they've been crossfaded into one another. The biggest giveaway is the EQing on the kick drum drastically changing.

So they've used two mixdowns and given us this.

[Edited 9/29/20 5:00am]

bluegangsta said:

Rebirth Of The Flesh is clearly an amalgamation of two versions - you can hear it as the mix changes, because they've been crossfaded into one another. The biggest giveaway is the EQing on the kick drum drastically changing.

So they've used two mixdowns and given us this.

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