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RODSERLING

Prince charts and sales 2020

Last attempt, before being censored again.
It s sad to see there are numerous useless and speculative thread here, and each time there is a charts facts-based thread, it is closed.
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Best selling album (physical + digital), week 21

#54 Thriller (41.000)
#71 Purple Rain (33.000 copies)
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France top album ( sales + streaming)

#75 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #93)
#114 Up All Nite with Prince
#184 One Nite Alone... Live!
#191 One Nite Alone

Swiss
#74 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #78)
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Netherlands
#28 TRC ( never charted before)
#38 Up All Nite

German albums
#29 TRC ( peak)
#30 Up All Nite
#58 ONA live

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Scotland
#19 Up All Nite
#35 TRC
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Reply #1 posted 06/08/20 12:40pm

feeluupp

Purple Rain should be recertified!! When the PR Deluxe was released WB gave new plaques to The Revolution for 13x Platinum. Those were the same numbers that they certified Purple Rain 13x Platnium in 1996.

It should be at least 16x Platinum now. Why won't the estate or WB recertifity Purple Rain, they always do that for MJ albums, as a few years ago BAD was certified Diamond in USA.

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Reply #2 posted 06/08/20 2:15pm

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Yes, PR is one the 10/15 best selling album of all time in the USA.
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And without numerous reedition like Thriller in the golden era of the physical sales.
A true deluxe edition in 2004 or 2009 would have pushed the numbers at 18 millions.
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Until 2007 Thriller and PR had sold the same amount in the soundscan era (about 2.5 millions)
Then came Thriller 25, MJ' death...
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Reply #3 posted 06/09/20 8:59am

RODSERLING

US top album sales this week!
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#19 Up All Nite
#20 Rainbow Children (new peak)
#75 Purple Rain (#50 last week)
#95 ONA live
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Top current album sales
#15 Up All Nite
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Vinyl album
#8 Rainbow Children
#19 ONA live
#22 One Nite Alone piano
#23 Purple Rain
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Sadly, not one of these release reached the Billboard 200
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Reply #4 posted 06/09/20 9:17am

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Why are you putting up the thriller album in "Prince charts"?

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Reply #5 posted 06/09/20 12:09pm

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This should be moved to non-music forum for the mention of Thriller! ;}

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Reply #6 posted 06/10/20 11:52am

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If you mentioned Thriller in previous versions there would be your mystery uncovered as to why the thread shut-downs.... you should know how this place rolls with that.

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Reply #7 posted 06/10/20 12:13pm

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Dandroppedadime said:

This should be moved to non-music forum for the mention of Thriller! ;}



This is now an MJ thread lol
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I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #8 posted 06/10/20 12:14pm

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Thriller was obviously put in there as a reference. The 80's were all about Prince's and MJ's (friendly) rivalry. Why wouldn't one be able to post a MJ reference in a post about Prince album sales???

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
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Reply #9 posted 06/10/20 12:19pm

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funkaholic1972 said:

Thriller was obviously put in there as a reference. The 80's were all about Prince's and MJ's (friendly) rivalry. Why wouldn't one be able to post a MJ reference in a post about Prince album sales???

Are you new here?

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Reply #10 posted 06/10/20 1:27pm

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funkaholic1972 said:

Thriller was obviously put in there as a reference. The 80's were all about Prince's and MJ's (friendly) rivalry. Why wouldn't one be able to post a MJ reference in a post about Prince album sales???



The mods are typically violently opposed to any cross pollinating discussion.
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Reply #11 posted 06/10/20 1:55pm

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LoveGalore said:

funkaholic1972 said:

Thriller was obviously put in there as a reference. The 80's were all about Prince's and MJ's (friendly) rivalry. Why wouldn't one be able to post a MJ reference in a post about Prince album sales???

The mods are typically violently opposed to any cross pollinating discussion.

That doesn't surprise me at all unfortunately. I have seen more and more dodgy moderating in here in the last few years.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
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Reply #12 posted 06/10/20 1:56pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

funkaholic1972 said:

Thriller was obviously put in there as a reference. The 80's were all about Prince's and MJ's (friendly) rivalry. Why wouldn't one be able to post a MJ reference in a post about Prince album sales???

Are you new here?

Been around since the purple and black days. But don't spend so much time here anymore.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
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Reply #13 posted 06/10/20 4:45pm

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RODSERLING said:

Last attempt, before being censored again. It s sad to see there are numerous useless and speculative thread here, and each time there is a charts facts-based thread, it is closed. . US . Best selling album (physical + digital), week 21 #54 Thriller (41.000) #71 Purple Rain (33.000 copies) . France top album ( sales + streaming) #75 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #93) #114 Up All Nite with Prince #184 One Nite Alone... Live! #191 One Nite Alone Swiss #74 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #78) . Netherlands #28 TRC ( never charted before) #38 Up All Nite German albums #29 TRC ( peak) #30 Up All Nite #58 ONA live . Scotland #19 Up All Nite #35 TRC

Why are people checking TRC now? I mean France, Netherlands, German, Scotland all showed some interest in TRC...?

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Reply #14 posted 06/10/20 4:49pm

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Astasheiks said:

Why are people checking TRC now? I mean France, Netherlands, German, Scotland all showed some interest in TRC...?

It was just reissued.

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Reply #15 posted 06/10/20 4:51pm

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Astasheiks said:

RODSERLING said:

Last attempt, before being censored again. It s sad to see there are numerous useless and speculative thread here, and each time there is a charts facts-based thread, it is closed. . US . Best selling album (physical + digital), week 21 #54 Thriller (41.000) #71 Purple Rain (33.000 copies) . France top album ( sales + streaming) #75 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #93) #114 Up All Nite with Prince #184 One Nite Alone... Live! #191 One Nite Alone Swiss #74 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #78) . Netherlands #28 TRC ( never charted before) #38 Up All Nite German albums #29 TRC ( peak) #30 Up All Nite #58 ONA live . Scotland #19 Up All Nite #35 TRC

Why are people checking TRC now? I mean France, Netherlands, German, Scotland all showed some interest in TRC...?

Probsbly because of the recent reissue?

RIP sad
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Reply #16 posted 06/11/20 6:19am

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RODSERLING said:

US top album sales this week! . #19 Up All Nite #20 Rainbow Children (new peak) #75 Purple Rain (#50 last week) #95 ONA live . Top current album sales #15 Up All Nite . Vinyl album #8 Rainbow Children #19 ONA live #22 One Nite Alone piano #23 Purple Rain . Sadly, not one of these release reached the Billboard 200 [Edited 6/9/20 9:02am]

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Thank you for all your efforts and interest in keeping us up to date everytime!!!

Many thanks!

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Reply #17 posted 06/11/20 9:06am

RODSERLING

Astasheiks said:



RODSERLING said:


Last attempt, before being censored again. It s sad to see there are numerous useless and speculative thread here, and each time there is a charts facts-based thread, it is closed. . US . Best selling album (physical + digital), week 21 #54 Thriller (41.000) #71 Purple Rain (33.000 copies) . France top album ( sales + streaming) #75 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #93) #114 Up All Nite with Prince #184 One Nite Alone... Live! #191 One Nite Alone Swiss #74 Rainbow Children ( peak position, formerly at #78) . Netherlands #28 TRC ( never charted before) #38 Up All Nite German albums #29 TRC ( peak) #30 Up All Nite #58 ONA live . Scotland #19 Up All Nite #35 TRC


Why are people checking TRC now? I mean France, Netherlands, German, Scotland all showed some interest in TRC...?




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Best joke of the year.
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Reply #18 posted 06/11/20 9:08am

RODSERLING

NoSwan said:



RODSERLING said:


US top album sales this week! . #19 Up All Nite #20 Rainbow Children (new peak) #75 Purple Rain (#50 last week) #95 ONA live . Top current album sales #15 Up All Nite . Vinyl album #8 Rainbow Children #19 ONA live #22 One Nite Alone piano #23 Purple Rain . Sadly, not one of these release reached the Billboard 200 [Edited 6/9/20 9:02am]

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Thank you for all your efforts and interest in keeping us up to date everytime!!!



Many thanks!



You're welcome!
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Reply #19 posted 06/11/20 9:38am

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RODSERLING said:

US top album sales this week! . #19 Up All Nite #20 Rainbow Children (new peak) #75 Purple Rain (#50 last week) #95 ONA live . Top current album sales #15 Up All Nite . Vinyl album #8 Rainbow Children #19 ONA live #22 One Nite Alone piano #23 Purple Rain . Sadly, not one of these release reached the Billboard 200 [Edited 6/9/20 9:02am]

There's nothing sad about it. When will you learn that sales expectations are different for legacy artists?

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Reply #20 posted 06/11/20 6:28pm

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Best selling album USA 2020 (as of week 22) :
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#73 Purple Rain (35.000 copies)
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Reply #21 posted 06/11/20 7:07pm

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Best selling album USA 2020 (as of week 22) : . #73 Purple Rain (35.000 copies)

What are the total USA sales for Purple Rain? Last time it was certified by RIAA was i 1996 for 13x Platinum.

It should be at 16x Platinum in USA now could even possibley be more than that, 17 or 18x Platinum in USA.

The estate or WB should push to get it recerified!

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Reply #22 posted 06/12/20 9:08am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


Best selling album USA 2020 (as of week 22) : . #73 Purple Rain (35.000 copies)


What are the total USA sales for Purple Rain? Last time it was certified by RIAA was i 1996 for 13x Platinum.



It should be at 16x Platinum in USA now could even possibley be more than that, 17 or 18x Platinum in USA.



The estate or WB should push to get it recerified!




With SoundScan Numbers alone, from the last recertification in 1996 and today, Purple Rain sold 3.250.000 copies.
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So it sold at least 16.250.000 copies in the US, for sure.
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But who knows?
Maybe when it was certied at 13 millions it was in fact at 13.8 millions.
Who knows how many copies more it sold in music club that wasn t counted in SoundScan sales/Billboard.
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For instance, in 2000 Thriller/BOTDF sold at least 800.000 copies in music club, making BOTDF a platinum album with only 200.000 copies sold in regular stores (!)
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So it could be very close in fact to 17 millions.
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With streaming added, He could very well be at 18 millions.
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And if you take into account the sales of the movie, VHS, dvd blu ray ( well, it s the same music after all), then it reached the 20 millions marks for sure.

Maybe there was a package Purple Rain/ The vault in 1999 or something like that,that sold wellwell in music clubs, and was never counted in charts/sales.
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Reply #23 posted 06/12/20 9:17am

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The rainbow Children made Prince broke another charts record. Well, a tie-in record.
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TRC is the 28th Prince' charting album in the history of the catalog album charts.
Nobody ever charted 29 albums in this charts!
A tie-in record with the Beatles and Frank Sinatra.
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The rerelease of Crystal Ball will probably broke once and for all this record.
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Reply #24 posted 06/26/20 2:29pm

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Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 24)
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#72 Purple rain (39.000 copies)
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Reply #25 posted 06/28/20 8:53pm

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I'm estimating Prince re-release of SOTT will gross about 16 million. Not bad.

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Reply #26 posted 06/29/20 1:57am

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kewlschool said:

I'm estimating Prince re-release of SOTT will gross about 16 million. Not bad.

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how do you calculate this ?

seems an awful lot to me

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
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Reply #27 posted 06/29/20 7:53am

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kewlschool said:


I'm estimating Prince re-release of SOTT will gross about 16 million. Not bad.



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how do you calculate this ?


seems an awful lot to me


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Sounds about right...
50K Units combined CD/Vinyl Sales (avg $200 per unit) = $10 Million
+ Digital Sales = $6 Million

*Just an uneducated guess 😂
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Reply #28 posted 06/29/20 11:09pm

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jdcxc said:

Vannormal said:

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how do you calculate this ?

seems an awful lot to me

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Sounds about right... 50K Units combined CD/Vinyl Sales (avg $200 per unit) = $10 Million + Digital Sales = $6 Million *Just an uneducated guess 😂

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right.

but every ''middle man'' needs to be payd too...

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
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Reply #29 posted 07/01/20 10:47am

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jdcxc said:

Vannormal said:

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how do you calculate this ?

seems an awful lot to me

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Sounds about right... 50K Units combined CD/Vinyl Sales (avg $200 per unit) = $10 Million + Digital Sales = $6 Million *Just an uneducated guess 😂

Plus, add revenue and merchandise sales.

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