My thoughts are that the SOT box set will probably get released in Nov. no matter what. By that time the epidemic will hopefully over. (BTW;That's the rumour that the SOT box set will get released.)

Pokeno4Money said:

Strive said:

The 2001 A Celebration at Paisley is where he did TRC listening parties that were filmed by Kevin Smith. (I think)

From all accounts, he wasn't expecting the type of reaction he got.

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Okay gotcha, thanks.

Of all the albums in his career, that was the one to have listening sessions for. Armed with our lyric book, we were discussing what all the lyrics meant, trying to justify some of them as best we could, while Larry's JW friends infiltrated and befriended.

It was the most exhilirating, incredible and deeply strange and uncomfortable week of my life.

I feel if anything can get released, then it should be.

It is important for people to keep spending to support local and global economies.

Bear in mind the reality for C19 is different for each territory.

So far I haven't seen any queues in supermarkets nor have I seen empty shelves.

I order from Amazon Prime and deliveries arrive next day!

So for many people it is business as usual - for now!

To put this in perspective the impact of C19 is tiny compared to typical annual flu pandemics and other illnesses such as SARS and Bird Flu. Yet, this can change.

When we come out of C19 there will be a colossal economic boom as people will sart spending again, however this spending will need to be spread out over time otherwise we will have skyhigh inflation.

So, keep releases coming, keep the economy moving and in doing so this keeps people in jobs and maintains inflation.

darkroman said:

I feel if anything can get released, then it should be.

It is important for people to keep spending to support local and global economies.

Bear in mind the reality for C19 is different for each territory.

So far I haven't seen any queues in supermarkets nor have I seen empty shelves.

I order from Amazon Prime and deliveries arrive next day!

So for many people it is business as usual - for now!

To put this in perspective the impact of C19 is tiny compared to typical annual flu pandemics and other illnesses such as SARS and Bird Flu. Yet, this can change.

When we come out of C19 there will be a colossal economic boom as people will sart spending again, however this spending will need to be spread out over time otherwise we will have skyhigh inflation.

So, keep releases coming, keep the economy moving and in doing so this keeps people in jobs and maintains inflation.

I don't know where in the world you are, but if you're somewhere that seems relatively unaffected by coronavirus so far and there are truly no empty shelves yet, it might be a good moment to grab some toilet roll and paracetamol before it disappears for months.

My only 'open' Prince order is a pre-order for the TRC reissue, although I'd also grab Crystal Ball on vinyl if (a) it came out this year and (b) I'm financially able to, as the situation really does feel like it's changing by the day over here.

darkroman said:

I feel if anything can get released, then it should be.

It is important for people to keep spending to support local and global economies.

Bear in mind the reality for C19 is different for each territory.

So far I haven't seen any queues in supermarkets nor have I seen empty shelves.

I order from Amazon Prime and deliveries arrive next day!

So for many people it is business as usual - for now!

To put this in perspective the impact of C19 is tiny compared to typical annual flu pandemics and other illnesses such as SARS and Bird Flu. Yet, this can change.

When we come out of C19 there will be a colossal economic boom as people will sart spending again, however this spending will need to be spread out over time otherwise we will have skyhigh inflation.

So, keep releases coming, keep the economy moving and in doing so this keeps people in jobs and maintains inflation.

HA!

You ain't in Elvisland, Tennessee where all disinfectants are gone from shelves no matter which Kroger you visit! It's ridiculous! No toilet tissue either...what am I gonna wipe my ass with? A paper towel? Ahhhhhhhhh!

williamb610 said:

darkroman said:

I feel if anything can get released, then it should be.

It is important for people to keep spending to support local and global economies.

Bear in mind the reality for C19 is different for each territory.

So far I haven't seen any queues in supermarkets nor have I seen empty shelves.

I order from Amazon Prime and deliveries arrive next day!

So for many people it is business as usual - for now!

To put this in perspective the impact of C19 is tiny compared to typical annual flu pandemics and other illnesses such as SARS and Bird Flu. Yet, this can change.

When we come out of C19 there will be a colossal economic boom as people will sart spending again, however this spending will need to be spread out over time otherwise we will have skyhigh inflation.

So, keep releases coming, keep the economy moving and in doing so this keeps people in jobs and maintains inflation.

HA!

You ain't in Elvisland, Tennessee where all disinfectants are gone from shelves no matter which Kroger you visit! It's ridiculous! No toilet tissue either...what am I gonna wipe my ass with? A paper towel? Ahhhhhhhhh!

If you do use paper towels other than toilet paper, DO NOT flush!

Bag it and bin it, otherwise you will block your plumbing systems - you won't want a toilet that doesn't flush!

I also advise filling the fuel in your cars or if anyone uses gas bottles, etc, then make sure you stock up.

If you watch virus movies you will know what is happening and what will happen next - so I am very much prepared! Food, Medicine, fuel!!!

During the zombie apocalypse you need to ensure your car is fuelled up!

Also, ensure an emergency sports bag is packed! Food, water, medicine.. and even a torch!

I have many extra batteries for my mobile and portable batteries for extra power incase the power grid gets limited!

darkroman said:

williamb610 said:

HA!

You ain't in Elvisland, Tennessee where all disinfectants are gone from shelves no matter which Kroger you visit! It's ridiculous! No toilet tissue either...what am I gonna wipe my ass with? A paper towel? Ahhhhhhhhh!

If you do use paper towels other than toilet paper, DO NOT flush!

Bag it and bin it, otherwise you will block your plumbing systems - you won't want a toilet that doesn't flush!

I also advise filling the fuel in your cars or if anyone uses gas bottles, etc, then make sure you stock up.

If you watch virus movies you will know what is happening and what will happen next - so I am very much prepared! Food, Medicine, fuel!!!

During the zombie apocalypse you need to ensure your car is fuelled up!

Also, ensure an emergency sports bag is packed! Food, water, medicine.. and even a torch!

I have many extra batteries for my mobile and portable batteries for extra power incase the power grid gets limited!

I know what will happen next:

williamb610 said:

No toilet tissue either...what am I gonna wipe my ass with? A paper towel? Ahhhhhhhhh!

Back in the day we'd use leaves ... but stay away from pine trees!!

If people that work at the labels and the pressing plants are home instead of at work, it would be much more difficult to put out product.

Pokeno4Money said:

williamb610 said:

No toilet tissue either...what am I gonna wipe my ass with? A paper towel? Ahhhhhhhhh!

Back in the day we'd use leaves ... but stay away from pine trees!!

Or poison ivy.

Just wanted to clear a MASSIVE piece of misinformation up here...

The SARS outbreak infected around 8,000 people by the time it was contained... COVID-19 has already infected 390,000 in 2 or three months... as of today there have been over 17,000 deaths from COVID-19 worldwide.

SARS and swine flu were, in the words of an on-call doctor the other day doing and LBC radio interview here in the UK, 'a blip' compared to COVID-19.

This is the biggest and most dangerous thing to happen to the human race since at least World War 2, maybe the Spanish flu, before WWII, which killed 65million.

Millions of people are going to die from this before it is contained. Millions.

Okay, just wanted to say that. Please carry on.

darkroman said:

I feel if anything can get released, then it should be.

It is important for people to keep spending to support local and global economies.

Bear in mind the reality for C19 is different for each territory.

So far I haven't seen any queues in supermarkets nor have I seen empty shelves.

I order from Amazon Prime and deliveries arrive next day!

So for many people it is business as usual - for now!

To put this in perspective the impact of C19 is tiny compared to typical annual flu pandemics and other illnesses such as SARS and Bird Flu. Yet, this can change.

When we come out of C19 there will be a colossal economic boom as people will sart spending again, however this spending will need to be spread out over time otherwise we will have skyhigh inflation.

So, keep releases coming, keep the economy moving and in doing so this keeps people in jobs and maintains inflation.

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[Edited 3/24/20 7:30am]

they should do a controversy Delux but call it the Coronavirusversy edition!

the song titkes

Coronavirus

SelfUuality

Do Me Baby-in Six to Eight weeks

Socially-Distant Joy

Trumpy talk 2 China

Antiviral

Let's Work (from home)

Anti-vi

Jack Urself Off

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they should do a controversy Delux but call it the Coronavirusversy edition!

the song titkes

Coronavirus

SelfUuality

Do Me Baby-in Six to Eight weeks

Socially-Distant Joy

Trumpy talk 2 China

Antiviral

Let's Work (from home)

Anti-vi

Jack Urself Off

WOW, Only! That's so wrong.

Ok, back to my original post, here's some data to illustrate changing listener behaviour:

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"According to Alpha Data, an analytics provider, streams in the US dropped some 7.6% during the week of March 13 to March 19 — the week when many Americans first self-quarantined and other non-essential outlets business closed across the country.

A similar slump was also seen in album sales and digital song sales. Physical album sales dropped by a staggering 27.6%, digital album sales fell by 12.4%, and digital song sales plummeted by 10.7%."

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Physical album sales dropped by a staggering 27.6% - that is quite a significant number. Of course, no one can say how that would translate to Prince releases further down the line...

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they should do a controversy Delux but call it the Coronavirusversy edition!

the song titkes

Coronavirus

SelfUuality

Do Me Baby-in Six to Eight weeks

Socially-Distant Joy

Trumpy talk 2 China

Antiviral

Let's Work (from home)

Anti-vi

Jack Urself Off

I don't like the pass you give to that idiot president of yours, but this was funny especially Let's Work (from home).

It would be a great time for the Estate to show the world a little love! It would be such an appropriate time to release a concert video...even half of one, for free! It would lift everyone's spirits during these tense times we are all going through in one way or another to have something new of him.

I know they have to make $ on most of the stuff that they have squirreled away. But, if they would show us some love, I know most of the true family would respond with their pocketbooks the next time another album set is released. Hate to beat a dead horse, but we "ain't getting any younger".

So Estate...how about it? Anyone feel the same??

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they should do a controversy Delux but call it the Coronavirusversy edition!

the song titkes

Coronavirus

SelfUuality

Do Me Baby-in Six to Eight weeks

Socially-Distant Joy

Trumpy talk 2 China

Antiviral

Let's Work (from home)

Anti-vi

Jack Urself Off

One of your best posts ever!

Pokeno4Money said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they should do a controversy Delux but call it the Coronavirusversy edition!

the song titkes

Coronavirus

SelfUuality

Do Me Baby-in Six to Eight weeks

Socially-Distant Joy

Trumpy talk 2 China

Antiviral

Let's Work (from home)

Anti-vi

Jack Urself Off

One of your best posts ever!

Right?

Doozer said:

I have no information outside my opinion, which is that more people stuck at home would actually bode WELL for music releases, unlike movie releases which rely a lot on theater ticket sales. Music can be an inexpensive piece of social distancing and doesn’t require large gatherings to enjoy or sell. It’s not like there is a tour that would have to be cancelled or postponed.

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Your argument is not complete i believe...

Sure your right from 'inexpensive piece of distancing' point of view, etc.

But you're forgetting one important issue;

all retail (and other) companies connected to it won't earn a penny.

Could it be that there is a lobby behind this ?

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Now the next batch of re-releases has been pushed to late May. As supply chains are already being cut globally, I wouldn't be surprised if they were to not get released this summer or year at all.

Vannormal said:

Doozer said:

I have no information outside my opinion, which is that more people stuck at home would actually bode WELL for music releases, unlike movie releases which rely a lot on theater ticket sales. Music can be an inexpensive piece of social distancing and doesn’t require large gatherings to enjoy or sell. It’s not like there is a tour that would have to be cancelled or postponed.

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Your argument is not complete i believe...

Sure your right from 'inexpensive piece of distancing' point of view, etc.

But you're forgetting one important issue;

all retail (and other) companies connected to it won't earn a penny.

Could it be that there is a lobby behind this ?

-

Not completely true. Look at what Disney and Universal are doing with early home movie releases, all streaming or rent/buy online. "Retail and other companies" connected haven't mattered there. They saw an opportunity with a stay-at-home audience and adjusted accordingly.

I don't know nohing.

But I know if Prince was still among us he'd be saying that what's happening now to our world is either foretold in Scriptures...or...that it's a deep CONspiracy. CorONavirus.

Doozer said:

Vannormal said:

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Your argument is not complete i believe...

Sure your right from 'inexpensive piece of distancing' point of view, etc.

But you're forgetting one important issue;

all retail (and other) companies connected to it won't earn a penny.

Could it be that there is a lobby behind this ?

-

Not completely true. Look at what Disney and Universal are doing with early home movie releases, all streaming or rent/buy online. "Retail and other companies" connected haven't mattered there. They saw an opportunity with a stay-at-home audience and adjusted accordingly.

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You're right.

Still I don't see it possible for 'the estate' to go a streaming level.

Rent or buy online?, a very maybe...

But you're absolutly right in seeing an opportunity for home audience

considdering the current situation.

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What I like right now ts that many artists make small video's at home,

and show it online through social media. Some of 'm even on a daily basis, or release the likes for fans etc...

Sure Prince is dead, I know... but what does 'the Estate' do right now on Instagram or else?

Barely nothing. They uploaded a video on Youtube...

Yeah right, some live bits of Prince in the nineties and nillies,

To be honest, live performances of tracks (cover versions?) that are barely interesting (to me)...

(But that's possibly the old me, I never was one for liking his 90's and 00's live shows.

I say sorry already, before someone starts kicking my European white trash ass.)

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Why can't they put up a full show ?

In that case any full show, I don't care?

I would please all sorts of people.

Prince has, as far as we all know, thousands of hours of filmed shows,

or whatever video material is in that vault.

Hell why not a virtual tour in that poor 'museum'?

Or suprise us with something we haven't heard or seen yet...

I hope they put up some more action soon.

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All near future releases (2020, maybe even 2021) will be postponed or even cancelled I'm affraid.

This virus crisis isn't over in one year time.

Mind my words.

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Just received the message that The Rainbouw Children is postponed to late May.

I do hope, rather wish that the pressing factories, shipping companies and other involved won't suffer to much from this Covit-19/Corona crisis, which is huge here in Europe and will be worse in the US ...

which I'm affraid will be the case. Let's hope I'm wrong.

Loads of people will loose their jobs, companies will go backrupt etc.

(And Trump is no leader to be able to solve this. He's just a sales guy only concerned about his own 5 big private companies that are now already in need of cash, hence his (selfish) desicions right now.

"America isn't made to shut down" he said.. really? That level of stupid?!)

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Good luck to you all, and STAY IN, RESPECT THE RULES.

FOLLOW THE CORRECT INFO, AVOUID FAKE NEWS, DON'T RUSH TO SUPERMARKETS.

And if everyone respects these simple rules, then there's no need for panic.

Been locked up here for two weeks right now, and it's doable.

Stay healthy and help those who need it the most.

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Streaming has actually taken a massive plunge since this got bad. Most popstars are cancelling or pushing back their releases since they can't do any promotion. It would be a very bad time to release new material from a commercial perspective, and these releases need all the help they can get sales wise.

Mikado said:

Streaming has actually taken a massive plunge since this got bad. Most popstars are cancelling or pushing back their releases since they can't do any promotion. It would be a very bad time to release new material from a commercial perspective, and these releases need all the help they can get sales wise.

Incorrect. Just the opposite. Unlike other industries, the streams are still available and people have more time to listen.

Case in point: The Weeknd is having a fantastic first week of his new thing; 425,000 or so in total; of that number plenty of streaming.

[Edited 3/26/20 11:01am]

sro100 said:

Mikado said:

Streaming has actually taken a massive plunge since this got bad. Most popstars are cancelling or pushing back their releases since they can't do any promotion. It would be a very bad time to release new material from a commercial perspective, and these releases need all the help they can get sales wise.

Incorrect. Just the opposite. Unlike other industries, the streams are still available and people have more time to listen.

Case in point: The Weeknd is having a fantastic first week of his new thing; 425,000 or so in total; of that number plenty of streaming.

[Edited 3/26/20 11:01am]

No, not incorrect. Here's an article about in Rolling Stone, and another one from NME. People are streaming music considerably less since this started. The Weeknd's sales are the result of the bundling rule/loophole which allows buying merch (t-shirts, ashtrays, literally anything) to count as multiplied album sales, given that he has a such a large and passionate fan base it's easy for him to rack up "sales" this way (and all credit to him for gaming the system).

sro100 said:

Mikado said:

Streaming has actually taken a massive plunge since this got bad. Most popstars are cancelling or pushing back their releases since they can't do any promotion. It would be a very bad time to release new material from a commercial perspective, and these releases need all the help they can get sales wise.

Incorrect. Just the opposite. Unlike other industries, the streams are still available and people have more time to listen.

Case in point: The Weeknd is having a fantastic first week of his new thing; 425,000 or so in total; of that number plenty of streaming.

[Edited 3/26/20 11:01am]

"According to Alpha Data, an analytics provider, streams in the US dropped some 7.6% during the week of March 13 to March 19 — the week when many Americans first self-quarantined and other non-essential outlets business closed across the country.

A similar slump was also seen in album sales and digital song sales. Physical album sales dropped by a staggering 27.6%, digital album sales fell by 12.4%, and digital song sales plummeted by 10.7%."

My local wrecka stow sent out an email saying that starting Monday they will be taking phone orders with curbside delivery for pickup.

A lot of small businesses here are using this as a way to get around shut down orders as they are not opening the store for foot traffic, only have 2 or 3 employees working at a time and any employees that are high risk or unwilling to risk exposure are exempt with no fear of losing their jobs.

So, if stuff is released, and if it's delivered to the store, I should be able to still buy it locally.

Doozer said:

I have no information outside my opinion, which is that more people stuck at home would actually bode WELL for music releases, unlike movie releases which rely a lot on theater ticket sales. Music can be an inexpensive piece of social distancing and doesn’t require large gatherings to enjoy or sell. It’s not like there is a tour that would have to be cancelled or postponed.

My cable provide Comcast is offering current and upcoming movie release to the customer's home through their cable service.(Since they own NBC/Universal Studios).