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Reply #270 posted 01/13/20 9:38am

ladygirl99

djThunderfunk said:

ladygirl99 said:

You don't tell me what I should or I should not listen to. Majority of Prince songs are not pro rape that is why I continue to listen to him.

Typical male entitlement attitude.

They are pro rape songs. Only rape fetish sickos would otherwise denial about its content.


No they're not.

And if they were, that would make Prince "pro rape".

Which is why if you believe that, you should stop listening to him.

Likewise, disagreeing with you on this does not make us "rape fetish sickos".

Just sayin'...

Look I am not going back and forth. To me those are pro rape songs. Agree to disagree.

You don't control me or make a decision on my behalf which songs are pro rape or not or what music I should or not listen to. I determined that.

Check your male privilege, okay?

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Reply #271 posted 01/13/20 9:40am

ladygirl99

Galaxy said:

ladygirl99 said:

You right its only a song. So why are people mad that those two songs left off the album? lol

They are mad because the want to experience the music learn the instrumentation production sing dance rhythm vocal arrangements drum programming and listen to it unedited. As 4 u and others with your perverted mind taken the rape word out of it's TRUE meaning which was a fantasy which most likely they were about Vanity. Think Vanity didn't know they were both Kinky and wild.

They stay mad they want but Michael Howe did the right thing left those songs off. Otherwise 1999 deluxe would focus on those songs from journalists. That distraction isn't what we want.

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Reply #272 posted 01/13/20 9:46am

ladygirl99

JorisE73 said:

ladygirl99 said:

You don't tell me what I should or I should not listen to. Majority of Prince songs are not pro rape that is why I continue to listen to him.

Typical male entitlement attitude.

They are pro rape songs. Only rape fetish sickos would otherwise denial about its content.


rolleyes The songs are as much pro rape as Push is pro kidnapping children or Sister is pro incest or Head is pro adultery, I guess you think Bob George is pro domestic violence or Automatic is pro torture lol .
The songs are just Prince pushing his shock agenda to get people talking and seeing this topic here it worked.

We talk about Extralovable and Lust 2 Always right? And those songs are left off for a reason they obivously mentioned about Prince going to rape somebody. Simple as that. If people want so badly listen to those songs go bootlegged they are out there.

I love Prince and all and he did said if people want to know about him is to listen to his music.

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Reply #273 posted 01/13/20 9:52am

ladygirl99

VaultCurator said:

ladygirl99 said:

Typical male entitlement attitude.

They are pro rape songs. Only rape fetish sickos would otherwise denial about its content.

May I ask you a civil question?

You know this passive aggressive way you attempt to shame people who disagree with you… does it ever work?

lol WTF?

How I am shaming someone if they disagree with me? I am only stating my opinion. I am just perplex why so much male or male identified anger of two songs off the album where there other ways to still listen to it? Geez. Prince have an easy ride so far and that could ruin by those songs.

Take a chill pill fellas. Again you can always listen to these songs underground.

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Reply #274 posted 01/13/20 12:14pm

Galaxy

ladygirl99 said:



VaultCurator said:




ladygirl99 said:


Typical male entitlement attitude.



They are pro rape songs. Only rape fetish sickos would otherwise denial about its content.




May I ask you a civil question?

You know this passive aggressive way you attempt to shame people who disagree with you… does it ever work?




lol WTF?



How I am shaming someone if they disagree with me? I am only stating my opinion. I am just perplex why so much male or male identified anger of two songs off the album where there other ways to still listen to it? Geez. Prince have an easy ride so far and that could ruin by those songs.



Take a chill pill fellas. Again you can always listen to these songs underground.



Obviously most who are complaining already have both songs like me but both of those songs needed to be on the deulux editions.Both are excellent songs regardless of the lyrics.
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Reply #275 posted 01/13/20 12:22pm

Revolution81

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Welcome 2 the dawn...u have just accessed the Sexual Assault Experience.

Other titles in this category include: Lady Cab Driver, You and Horny Toad

Press "Yes" or "No" 2 continue

Please try 2 enjoy u'r experience

Rough sex is not the same as rape, you dumb fuck.

It was a joke, Dickhead. Get a grip

My fathers got a shotgun...I hope he doesn't use it
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Reply #276 posted 01/13/20 1:33pm

VaultCurator

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ladygirl99 said:

They are pro rape songs. Only rape fetish sickos would otherwise denial about its content.

ladygirl99 also said:

How I am shaming someone if they disagree with me?

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Reply #277 posted 01/13/20 2:42pm

Fenwick

ladygirl99 said:

djThunderfunk said:


No they're not.

And if they were, that would make Prince "pro rape".

Which is why if you believe that, you should stop listening to him.

Likewise, disagreeing with you on this does not make us "rape fetish sickos".

Just sayin'...

Look I am not going back and forth. To me those are pro rape songs. Agree to disagree.

You don't control me or make a decision on my behalf which songs are pro rape or not or what music I should or not listen to. I determined that.

Check your male privilege, okay?


But YOU get to control what music is/isn't "pro rape" (what an absurd accusation) and YOU get to decide what he gets to/doesn't get to listen to?

Is this your female privilege standing up?


Some of the people in this thread......

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Reply #278 posted 01/13/20 7:40pm

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Once again, this thread clearly shows that in this farked up world we now live in, we are here to please the minority.

The Deluxe boxset would've sold no more or no less, with or without those two songs.
But because of the 1 %ers, everybody elsel misses out.

I find the image of an unhealthy Lizzo eating Cheetos more offensive. But hey..........

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Reply #279 posted 01/13/20 10:01pm

mbdtyler

callimnate said:

Once again, this thread clearly shows that in this farked up world we now live in, we are here to please the minority.

The Deluxe boxset would've sold no more or no less, with or without those two songs.
But because of the 1 %ers, everybody elsel misses out.

I find the image of an unhealthy Lizzo eating Cheetos more offensive. But hey..........

Very reassuring to know that there are folks out there who are more put off by a woman eating than they are by a man singing about raping someone. Stay classy.

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Reply #280 posted 01/14/20 1:15am

JorisE73

mbdtyler said:

callimnate said:

Once again, this thread clearly shows that in this farked up world we now live in, we are here to please the minority.

The Deluxe boxset would've sold no more or no less, with or without those two songs.
But because of the 1 %ers, everybody elsel misses out.

I find the image of an unhealthy Lizzo eating Cheetos more offensive. But hey..........

Very reassuring to know that there are folks out there who are more put off by a woman eating than they are by a man singing about raping someone. Stay classy.


Someone saying or singing something taht harms 0 people (somewhat 'sticks and stones' and all) versus an unhealthy looking person who chooses to live a unhealthy lifestyle that harms 1 person: themselves.
People who choose to look unhealthy are off putting to a lot of people yes and there's nothing wrong with that, just like people who choose to not take care of there teeth and smell like shit are off putting.

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Reply #281 posted 01/14/20 6:25am

djThunderfunk

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ladygirl99 said:

djThunderfunk said:


No they're not.

And if they were, that would make Prince "pro rape".

Which is why if you believe that, you should stop listening to him.

Likewise, disagreeing with you on this does not make us "rape fetish sickos".

Just sayin'...

Look I am not going back and forth. To me those are pro rape songs. Agree to disagree.

You don't control me or make a decision on my behalf which songs are pro rape or not or what music I should or not listen to. I determined that.

Check your male privilege, okay?


My opinions are as valid as yours. Neither of us is "privileged" here at the org, we're all on equal ground.

Clearly I have no control over you or your opinions, just as you have none over mine. When you try to shame those that disagree with you, it is you who are trying to control others.

If you don't want to go "back and forth", maybe try NOT dismissing opinions that differ from yours as coming from "rape fetish sickos" or trying to manipulate others with your "male privilege" guilt bullshit.

Being dissmissive of our arguments, attacking our character and pulling the gender card will not change our minds or get us to back down and accept this nonsense.

The songs are not pro rape, those that say this are not rape fetish sickos, and male privilege has no dominance in the debate.

And to repeat, whether you like it or not: If Prince wrote "pro rape songs", that would make Prince pro rape. And if Prince was pro rape, then you shouldn't listen to him... Unless YOU are pro rape.



[Edited 1/14/20 8:45am]

Censorship is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is doing it or how noble their motivation.
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Reply #282 posted 01/14/20 7:56am

mbdtyler

JorisE73 said:

mbdtyler said:

Very reassuring to know that there are folks out there who are more put off by a woman eating than they are by a man singing about raping someone. Stay classy.


Someone saying or singing something taht harms 0 people (somewhat 'sticks and stones' and all) versus an unhealthy looking person who chooses to live a unhealthy lifestyle that harms 1 person: themselves.
People who choose to look unhealthy are off putting to a lot of people yes and there's nothing wrong with that, just like people who choose to not take care of there teeth and smell like shit are off putting.

This is dumb as shit lol Language is our basis for communication, of course words can hurt people, and they often do. Singing about something as uncomfortable and potentially triggering as "rape" is far more harmful than someone being comfortable in their own skin.

If you can't handle seeing someone outside of your preferred weight zone, who is clearly happy with herself and clearly in good enough shape to put on energetic performances, that says more about you. I swear to god, some people will really go out of their way to criticize people for being fat before they criticize someone for threatening rape in their lyrics lol What the fuck.

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Reply #283 posted 01/14/20 9:08am

rednblue

mbdtyler said:

JorisE73 said:


Someone saying or singing something taht harms 0 people (somewhat 'sticks and stones' and all) versus an unhealthy looking person who chooses to live a unhealthy lifestyle that harms 1 person: themselves.
People who choose to look unhealthy are off putting to a lot of people yes and there's nothing wrong with that, just like people who choose to not take care of there teeth and smell like shit are off putting.

This is dumb as shit lol Language is our basis for communication, of course words can hurt people, and they often do. Singing about something as uncomfortable and potentially triggering as "rape" is far more harmful than someone being comfortable in their own skin.

If you can't handle seeing someone outside of your preferred weight zone, who is clearly happy with herself and clearly in good enough shape to put on energetic performances, that says more about you. I swear to god, some people will really go out of their way to criticize people for being fat before they criticize someone for threatening rape in their lyrics lol What the fuck.



"Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me" is obviously false.

As for a few destructive and inane name-calling instances (not the words of anyone on this thread)...

IMO, the more people refrain from name-calling with slurs like fatty/cripple/retard/junkie, the better.

As far as more about medical issues (complicated subject involving both genetic and environmental influences, and involving anything but an even playing field), I've had plenty to say on other threads.

Some P lyrics that I don't "like" (to refer back to earlier comment RE: likes vs. edits) are some lyrics referencing weight.

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Reply #284 posted 01/15/20 3:41am

JorisE73

mbdtyler said:

JorisE73 said:


Someone saying or singing something taht harms 0 people (somewhat 'sticks and stones' and all) versus an unhealthy looking person who chooses to live a unhealthy lifestyle that harms 1 person: themselves.
People who choose to look unhealthy are off putting to a lot of people yes and there's nothing wrong with that, just like people who choose to not take care of there teeth and smell like shit are off putting.

This is dumb as shit lol Language is our basis for communication, of course words can hurt people, and they often do. Singing about something as uncomfortable and potentially triggering as "rape" is far more harmful than someone being comfortable in their own skin.

If you can't handle seeing someone outside of your preferred weight zone, who is clearly happy with herself and clearly in good enough shape to put on energetic performances, that says more about you. I swear to god, some people will really go out of their way to criticize people for being fat before they criticize someone for threatening rape in their lyrics lol What the fuck.


Actually it's not 'dumb as shit', it's how a lot of people perceive this.
And you see her as happy and other people see something else like an insecure person trying to come off as secure, no wrong in that. And I've seen her perform and see nothing energetic in it.
I'm not critisizing her being fat but just that I think she looks (and likely is) unhealthy by choice.
People who are offended or 'hurt' by mere words should check themselves and stop being so touchy becuase they are the ones giving those useless words 'power'.

[Edited 1/15/20 3:42am]

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Reply #285 posted 01/19/20 5:29am

pld71

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thedoorkeeper said:

How about an collection called: Nasty Prince or Uncensored Prince or Not For Sensitive Ears Prince Include with The Black Album Deluxe Box set

I'd buy it!!!

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Reply #286 posted 01/20/20 10:10am

BanishedBrian

Genesia said:

Prince re-recorded Extraloveable, himself. That's the strongest indication possible that he no longer felt the original version was viable for release. People ask all the time, "What would Prince think/do about this?" In this case, we know beyond a reasonable doubt.

Irrelevant. There are dozens of released songs where he wouldn't sing the original lyrics post-1997. In pretty much every case, if those songs had been officially unreleased and he was releasing them later, he'd have used cleaned up lyrics in a re-recorded version. That has no relevance to whether or not the original versions should be released or mothballed now.

If the criteria that mattered is what Prince would have wanted done, then we should be doing our best to unlicense most of his released catalogue. Do you think Prince would have endorsed the song Sister or Lady Cab Driver (or a hundred others, including The Cross) being licensed and sold in 2020?

No Candy 4 Me
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Reply #287 posted 01/20/20 10:15am

BanishedBrian

ladygirl99 said:

djThunderfunk said:


No they're not.

And if they were, that would make Prince "pro rape".

Which is why if you believe that, you should stop listening to him.

Likewise, disagreeing with you on this does not make us "rape fetish sickos".

Just sayin'...

Look I am not going back and forth. To me those are pro rape songs. Agree to disagree.

You don't control me or make a decision on my behalf which songs are pro rape or not or what music I should or not listen to. I determined that.

Check your male privilege, okay?

Speaking as a feminist, it's absurd to worry about these songs in isolation to the rest of his catalogue. There are dozens of Prince songs and videos that promote rape culture. That's just a fact - it's a part of the story and there's no reason to try to whitewash it by deleting a couple of selective songs from his catalogue.

The decision by Howe here is as indefensible as the National Archives deleting Trump's name from the Women's March protest photo.

No Candy 4 Me
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Reply #288 posted 01/20/20 10:18am

rdhull

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:Throws all of you in the dumpster, Purple Rain style:

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #289 posted 01/20/20 11:47am

LoveGalore

BanishedBrian said:

Genesia said:

Prince re-recorded Extraloveable, himself. That's the strongest indication possible that he no longer felt the original version was viable for release. People ask all the time, "What would Prince think/do about this?" In this case, we know beyond a reasonable doubt.

Irrelevant. There are dozens of released songs where he wouldn't sing the original lyrics post-1997. In pretty much every case, if those songs had been officially unreleased and he was releasing them later, he'd have used cleaned up lyrics in a re-recorded version. That has no relevance to whether or not the original versions should be released or mothballed now.

If the criteria that mattered is what Prince would have wanted done, then we should be doing our best to unlicense most of his released catalogue. Do you think Prince would have endorsed the song Sister or Lady Cab Driver (or a hundred others, including The Cross) being licensed and sold in 2020?

If Prince wasn't into explicit lyrics, he probably wouldn't have written "When She Comes", "Elixer", "This Could Be Us", or countless other songs.

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Reply #290 posted 01/20/20 12:11pm

Genesia

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rdhull said:

:Throws all of you in the dumpster, Purple Rain style:


Where were you ten pages ago? lol

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #291 posted 01/20/20 12:24pm

rdhull

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Genesia said:



rdhull said:


:Throws all of you in the dumpster, Purple Rain style:




Where were you ten pages ago? lol


lol
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #292 posted 01/20/20 2:50pm

funksterr

homesquid said:

Forget about being "woke" or this #METOO thing. The rape lyrics in those songs are simply vile. Evil. Prince never released these versions. Prince would have never released them with those lyrics included. You know that. The man matured. Besides do you really want to witness Prince getting "canceled" by the mob?

Now...having said that. Would it have been better to simply edit out the bad bits and release them?Honestly, I think that would have been better.

[Edited 1/3/20 8:03am]

Exactly.

[Edited 1/20/20 16:05pm]

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Reply #293 posted 01/20/20 4:32pm

callimnate

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funksterr said:

homesquid said:

Forget about being "woke" or this #METOO thing. The rape lyrics in those songs are simply vile. Evil. Prince never released these versions. Prince would have never released them with those lyrics included. You know that. The man matured. Besides do you really want to witness Prince getting "canceled" by the mob?

Now...having said that. Would it have been better to simply edit out the bad bits and release them?Honestly, I think that would have been better.

[Edited 1/3/20 8:03am]

Exactly.

[Edited 1/20/20 16:05pm]

Yep. Prince is EVIL mad

I hope he's rotting in hell for having written those evil lyrics.

rolleyes

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Reply #294 posted 01/20/20 11:32pm

LoveGalore

callimnate said:

funksterr said:

Exactly.

[Edited 1/20/20 16:05pm]

Yep. Prince is EVIL mad

I hope he's rotting in hell for having written those evil lyrics.

rolleyes

The songs and lyrics depicting him shooting people are okay, though. Just to be clear!! lol lol

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Reply #295 posted 01/22/20 5:41pm

callimnate

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LoveGalore said:

callimnate said:

Yep. Prince is EVIL mad

I hope he's rotting in hell for having written those evil lyrics.

rolleyes

The songs and lyrics depicting him shooting people are okay, though. Just to be clear!! lol lol


Oh no. He was evil to have written about that aswell.

Prince was evil all round!

evillol

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Reply #296 posted 01/23/20 12:13am

udo

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LoveGalore said:

callimnate said:

Yep. Prince is EVIL mad

I hope he's rotting in hell for having written those evil lyrics.

rolleyes

The songs and lyrics depicting him shooting people are okay, though. Just to be clear!! lol lol

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Yup, those are modern times with hypocritical 'values'.

Political correctness is more important than true values.

It shows the fakeness of reality.

It shows the USSA mindset. (there I see the most of this stuff)

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #297 posted 01/23/20 2:51pm

jfenster

we need to convince that estate there that the metoo generation will cause a stir when these ttracks leak to the masses ...and they can profit from that

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Reply #298 posted 01/23/20 4:07pm

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Cancel culture is canceled. It's over. It's soooo 2010s.

It's 2020 now, Chappelle & Gervais have exposed the virtue signalling for the BS that it is.

Going forward expect offensiveness to be a selling point (kind of like Parental Warning stickers).

It's all good, we're adults, RELEASE IT! cool wink lol

Censorship is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is doing it or how noble their motivation.
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Reply #299 posted 01/23/20 8:12pm

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djThunderfunk said:

Cancel culture is canceled. It's over. It's soooo 2010s.

It's 2020 now, Chappelle & Gervais have exposed the virtue signalling for the BS that it is.

Going forward expect offensiveness to be a selling point (kind of like Parental Warning stickers).

It's all good, we're adults, RELEASE IT! cool wink lol


Oh how I pray that you're right! beg

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