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Reply #570 posted 01/10/20 11:39am

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iamafan said:

Genesia said:


Did Prince have a prescription for acyclovir? Of Valacylovir? Or any of the virs?

Dr. S prescribed Valacyclovir in Kirk's name of the 19th. In text msgs between Kirk and Dr. S, it is stated that it should be taken for the rash.


Whose rash? Was Prince named?

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Reply #571 posted 01/10/20 11:47am

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Yeah, he was stubborn. I wonder if the "think it and it will be true" attitude permeated. He said he willed everything to happen and it did for a long time. Maybe he was willing to throw caution to the wind in exchange for that outcome. He struck me as bold and a risk-taker and I think it pre-dated Larry.

I think he lost some of that feeling of protection when his baby was born, though.

Towards the end, he seemed more humble and receptive but may not have wanted to know the extent of his situation. IDK.

Yeah, all good points.

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It was alarming to see he was telling Judith that he insisted he'd have woken up on his own from the first OD. I do not think he took his health seriously. I tend to think he was annoyed that his health didn't fix itself in his later months. This might explain his disposition. It also might explain his slightly annoyed-looking body language in the Dr S security footage.

Yeah, I laughed at your observation...he did look kinda annoyed.

Anyway, we're going for a drink...I'm in Ireland!

Also need a break, ha.

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Reply #572 posted 01/10/20 12:16pm

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Very true. I also brought it up because I realized he had a rash that must be viral in nature. (As I said, many rashes are more like a contract dermatitis that you wouldn't take Valtrex for). It is all just discussion.





I also think there must have been a doctor's appt that was never released with Dr. S or it was via phone for this 'rash'. I saw that the med was prescribed on 4/19, which was BEFORE he saw Dr. S on the eve of his body being discovered. (When all the blood tests were done). The texts also mentioned 3 presecription bottles, but only Valacyclovir was mentioned. No idea what those other meds were. Or maybe there is a known appt Prince went to on the Monday after Moline and I am just not remembering it.



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This information was missed by many of us 3 years ago. Good call.





So because I am bored, I have been reading some of the files again.



Dr. S insists he only saw Prince twice, once early in the month and again on the 20th in the evening.



The Valacyclovir was prescribed on the 19th as mentioned previously. However, I don't think that was thrown out. Page 144 of the documents states that DOCUMENTATION for the Valacyclovir was found (in Kirk's name, of course), so I am thinking that med may actually have been taken by someone. (If the bottle had been found, it would have stated how many pills were there, if any, like was detailed for the other two meds.)



However, page 110 which documents the photos says that bottles of Valacyclovir HCL 500 and Tylenol 3 were found in the garbage. Don't know if that was an error in the document. I tend to believe page 144 which gives very good detail about each of the pill bottles and their contents. Does anyone know where these pictures are? I've seen pictures of the Tylenol 3 and Clindamycin but never the Valacyclovir.



So either there was a super secret appt for Prince on the 19th that was never documented, or the script was just called in without seeing Prince, or it was actually for Kirk.


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It was documented ---
124.) The second prescription bottle located in Kirk Johnson's name was also issued on 4/14/16 by Sarah Elizabeth Boo and was for Clindamycin HCL ( used for bacterial infections according to drugs.com) with a quantity of 28. Upon examining the contents of the bottle I observed green and blue capsules stamped with C39. I counted 33 capsules, 5 more capsules than what was prescribed on the bottle.




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Reply #573 posted 01/10/20 12:18pm

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ladygirl99 said:



That is what I am thinking. Just because the meds were under Kirk's name that doesn't mean they were for Kirk.



Also nothing should be ruled out that includes HIV and AIDS as long as no one has yet to see Prince's full medical records and autospy and full police statements from Tyka and Kirk.



So it look like some people are more tolerable that Kirk might have HIV but no way Prince could had it as well. Even Charlie freaking Sheen said there are tons of people in the industry are living with HIV and some are our favorites has it too so what make anyone so sure that Prince is so clean without seeing his medical records? And also when they died of AIDS complications more than likely the code use from their PR people is 'brief illiness' or 'cancer' due to the ongoing stigma.



I have this feeling that this Prince's death mystery is going to be solve before 2046. wink So go ahead Tyka write that book its okay to reveal what actually happen because at the end of the day people will understand and it shouldn't affect his legacy.





HIV/AIDS is an illness, not a moral failing or character flaw. I am surprised it is still so charged. If Prince was HIV+, I can see why he hid it. There could be a tremendous feeling of shame based on many org. commenters, some as recent as yesterday. Many orgers somehow associate it with homosexuality (gasp!!).


Many folks today contract HIV from men who sleep with men and don't tell their partners because of stigma.


Why don't we 'air' that one out? That's the elephant in the room.






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Well, one thing is true: Prince did not listen to doctors, regardless of whatever illness he did or didn't have. Really puzzled by that. What exactly made him so stubborn this way? My first inclination is to say it was Larry's style of preaching. After he came under Larry's tutelage, his approach to life was very much akin to Larry's: I'm telling you the truth and you can either agree or not, but you'll suffer the consequences of not agreeing with me. This very matter-of-fact, arrogant way of thinking really propagates a vibe of mistrust and paranoia, imo.


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I could see Prince feeling pretty invincible because he was protected by god since he was such a dutiful practitioner. Except, you know, that's not how life works and god won't save you from mortality.



Many believe his aversion to doctors was due to him being raised SDA - it's part of their doctrine.
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Reply #574 posted 01/10/20 12:20pm

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LoveGalore said:

PeggyO said:

HIV/AIDS is an illness, not a moral failing or character flaw. I am surprised it is still so charged. If Prince was HIV+, I can see why he hid it. There could be a tremendous feeling of shame based on many org. commenters, some as recent as yesterday. Many orgers somehow associate it with homosexuality (gasp!!).

Many folks today contract HIV from men who sleep with men and don't tell their partners because of stigma.

Why don't we 'air' that one out? That's the elephant in the room.

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Well, one thing is true: Prince did not listen to doctors, regardless of whatever illness he did or didn't have. Really puzzled by that. What exactly made him so stubborn this way? My first inclination is to say it was Larry's style of preaching. After he came under Larry's tutelage, his approach to life was very much akin to Larry's: I'm telling you the truth and you can either agree or not, but you'll suffer the consequences of not agreeing with me. This very matter-of-fact, arrogant way of thinking really propagates a vibe of mistrust and paranoia, imo.

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I could see Prince feeling pretty invincible because he was protected by god since he was such a dutiful practitioner. Except, you know, that's not how life works and god won't save you from mortality.

I don't know why Prince was so stubborn, but as a Christian, I agree with what you said about Larry's influence on Prince, since they both had the same beliefs, and were both Jehovah Witnesses. Most people who believe in God and the Bible, in which is God's word, tend to live by it, and try to follow it's teachings, and their faith in God causes them to believe that "nothing is impossible with God" as written, therefore they believe that nothing is impossible, and that they can be healed of any disease or illness, without going to a doctor or following their advice. Some really think that therefore, they don't need doctors or even medicine, that they can just ask, pray, and believe that God will heal them, and they will be healed, period! But, I don't think God works like that, and works according to His will for us, not ours, so many times, what we think is God's will is not, and we are sometimes disappointed when things don't work out as we thought they would. Yes, God can do anything, but that doesn't mean he will! The whole point in Jesus coming to earth, was to save us from sin, so that all who believe in Him, and accept Him as the son of God, could become His children, and have eternal life in Heaven, when their lives on earth are over. We were not made to stay here on earth forever, so we shouldn't expect to live forever. Sooner or later, we will all die, that's just a given. So yes, while God can heal us of certain diseases, and prolong our lives here on earth, that doesn't mean that we're here to live forever. I hope that makes somethings clear on what people in certain religions tend to believe, and how maybe Prince believed, although many are wrong in their beliefs, and take things too literally, when they shouldn't. Many have died, believing that God would heal them, without them going to a doctor or taking certain medications, that perhaps God in His infinite wisdom, gave the doctors to give them, or gave scientists the knowledge to create, that could help them heal, yet they refused to because they believed otherwise, but were wrong in their beliefs, so they missed what God had for them because of that. I hope that helps some to understand.

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