ah..thanks

jaawwnn said:

rdhull said:

Regarding Extraloveable. Wasnt it recorded after the sessions because he states "Hey Dez, do you like my band?" etc. in a tease for Dez leaving the fold. Dez left after the 1999 tour. So why would they include it on a 1999 re-release?

Originally tracking 1982, some 1983 overdubs.

Phase3 said:

Is the 1999 deluxe CD going to be discounted on Black Friday?

Yes.

Episode 2 of Prince: The Story of 1999 is now available.

Link here:https://lnk.to/TheStoryOf1999

ZannaleeFunk said:

ZannaleeFunk said:

Episode 2 of Prince: The Story of 1999 is now available.

Link here:https://lnk.to/TheStoryOf1999

thanks....listening now

tomds said:

Romeoblu said:

According to the review in Variety, If it I'll make u happy is terrible.

It's not

dumb comment...great song.

jeffreymiller said:

ZannaleeFunk said:

Episode 2 of Prince: The Story of 1999 is now available.

Link here:https://lnk.to/TheStoryOf1999

Just listened. What an incredible series.

incredible,indeed

Doozer said:

dustoff said:

Releasing a "one-off" download exclusively featuring songs with "lamentable" rape lyrics seems like the worst possible way to approach this, in terms of avoiding negative attention.

Do the one-off download and dogear all profits from the download to benefit a local women's shelter in the Minneapolis area. Win-win.

Win win? Because money makes rape all better?

Dumbest idea ever.

Genesia said:

Doozer said:

Do the one-off download and dogear all profits from the download to benefit a local women's shelter in the Minneapolis area. Win-win.

Win win? Because money makes rape all better?

Dumbest idea ever.

I don't think you've heard your fair share of dumb ideas.

And funding nonprofits that help women who suffer abuse is not a way of saying "money makes rape all better." Giving money to the American Cancer Society doesn't "make cancer all better" either, in case you were thinking that, too.

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if Prince never wanted extralovable possibly released at some point ..HE wouldve erased it...so stop all this nonsense

jfenster said:

if Prince never wanted extralovable possibly released at some point ..HE wouldve erased it...so stop all this nonsense

He released it in the form he wanted, to be fair.

Doozer said:

Watch GUNS N' ROSES Bassist DUFF MCKAGAN Unbox 'Super Deluxe' Reissue Of PRINCE's '1999'

jfenster said:

Doozer said:

controversy99 said:

Mintchip said:

I don't know if we're allowed to discuss this, but NPR did a story on the reissue, and it included snippets of Teacher, Teacher, and Rearrange:

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The link, which I am not sure if I am allowed to share, is here: https://www.npr.org/2019/...lease-1999

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From the snippet - and not the leak - I think Teacher Teacher sounds cool. I apologize in advance if I am in violation of terms of service.

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lousy interview, but great to hear those snippets !

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The track 'Rearrange' sounds very promissing.

Love to hear Prince's young voice again. So refreshing.

Thanx for that.

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controversy99 said:

What the hell is going on in those linked threads with all that discussion of individual tracks?!?! I’m saddened that people in droves are downloading a leak instead of waiting a few days for the official release. And I’m surprised and almost shocked that the Org is effectively promoting the leak by starting those threads before release date. I’m gonna avoid those threads until I get the official release.

Anyone who is bothering to seek out a download in 2019 is going to buy the set. It's not 2002 anymore, people just stream stuff for free as it is.

databank said:

yello1 said:

New interview with Michael Howe:

https://www.ilikeyouroldstuff.com/news/interview-prince-archivist-michael-howe-on-prince-vault

“Even though those two tracks are resolutely of the era, both tracks contain somewhat lamentable rape references. Given the egregiously insensitive candour of the lyrics and our lack of wanting to take creative license by editing or manipulating the tracks, we decided not to include them. Even though we want to shed light on the entire creative period, we certainly don’t want to be inflammatory or insensitive. We didn’t think it was right to include them.”

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I am grateful they chose that path vs. editing por manipulating. I haven't compared note for note with the mixdowns we had on boots, but my impression is that the outtakes here are free of any of the manipulations that upset some of us on past releases.

I guess the subtext here is "in some years, when the Meetoo hysteria has calmed down and our society has grown past this moral crusade, we will hopefully be able to reconsider and release the tracks as they are".

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Just comparing the bootleg and official versions of "If It'll Make U Happy", it seems obvious to me that the mixes are pretty different (different effects, different balance, etc.). Unless our friend Niko Bolas used a completely different stereo mixdown as a reference, it appears that he took a lot of artistic liberties with his mixes. Again.

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Listening to "Purple Music" on headphones, the song sounds way more contemporary than it should. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something wrong with it (some plugin effects?).

olb99 said:

olb99 said:

databank said:

“Even though those two tracks are resolutely of the era, both tracks contain somewhat lamentable rape references. Given the egregiously insensitive candour of the lyrics and our lack of wanting to take creative license by editing or manipulating the tracks, we decided not to include them. Even though we want to shed light on the entire creative period, we certainly don’t want to be inflammatory or insensitive. We didn’t think it was right to include them.”

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I am grateful they chose that path vs. editing por manipulating. I haven't compared note for note with the mixdowns we had on boots, but my impression is that the outtakes here are free of any of the manipulations that upset some of us on past releases.

I guess the subtext here is "in some years, when the Meetoo hysteria has calmed down and our society has grown past this moral crusade, we will hopefully be able to reconsider and release the tracks as they are".

.

Just comparing the bootleg and official versions of "If It'll Make U Happy", it seems obvious to me that the mixes are pretty different (different effects, different balance, etc.). Unless our friend Niko Bolas used a completely different stereo mixdown as a reference, it appears that he took a lot of artistic liberties with his mixes. Again.

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Listening to "Purple Music" on headphones, the song sounds way more contemporary than it should. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something wrong with it (some plugin effects?).

Can you clarify what "more contemporary than it should" means?

I think I stand alone in this, but after hearing the two volumes on unreleased songs, I will only buy the remastered 1999 double album in vinyl. The unreleased material isn't hitting me at all, and I have no reason to get the volume of single edits/promos.

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Romeoblu said:

olb99 said:

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Just comparing the bootleg and official versions of "If It'll Make U Happy", it seems obvious to me that the mixes are pretty different (different effects, different balance, etc.). Unless our friend Niko Bolas used a completely different stereo mixdown as a reference, it appears that he took a lot of artistic liberties with his mixes. Again.

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Listening to "Purple Music" on headphones, the song sounds way more contemporary than it should. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something wrong with it (some plugin effects?).

Again this is all conjecture, no evidence. Who has a full knowledge of what is in the vault? Both tracks sound great to me.

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They sound great to me, too, and I'm happy to be finally able to listen to all those studio outtakes on an official release. That was not the question.

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Of course, what I'm saying is a conjecture. But it's based on:

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1) the Peach & Black interview with Niko Bolas, where Bolas says, on the one hand, that they used reference mixdowns to make mixes as close as possible to the original mixes and, on the other hand, that Bolas used a lot of reverb because it sounded good to him. He's contradicting himself. I don't know why exactly, but this gives us an idea of how serious he is about mixing Prince's tracks (i.e. not much).

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2) the first minute of "If It'll Make U Happy" on the deluxe version of "1999" and the first minute of "If It'll Make U Happy" on "Blast From The Past 3.0" (for example).

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And yes, again, maybe there were several stereo mixdowns of "If It'll Make U Happy". I don't know. But using Occam's razor, here, I'll go with Niko Bolas not staying faithful to the original mix because "it sounded good to him"...

LoveGalore said:

olb99 said:

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Just comparing the bootleg and official versions of "If It'll Make U Happy", it seems obvious to me that the mixes are pretty different (different effects, different balance, etc.). Unless our friend Niko Bolas used a completely different stereo mixdown as a reference, it appears that he took a lot of artistic liberties with his mixes. Again.

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Listening to "Purple Music" on headphones, the song sounds way more contemporary than it should. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something wrong with it (some plugin effects?).

Can you clarify what "more contemporary than it should" means?

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I mean something totally subjective, but to me it's like hearing a modern mix that uses digital effects/plugins and not 1982 technology. Some parts of the song only. Not the whole song.

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But maybe a collector with this particular version of "Purple Music" can shed light on this? Neversin?