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Article: Prince's 'Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic' at 20: Why His 1999 Comeback Deserved Better

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Reply #1 posted 11/03/19 1:21am

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I agree, Rave is unfairly maligned, IMO. I think it’s a better album than Musicology which ended up with a much better reception.
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Reply #2 posted 11/03/19 5:00am

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Moonbeam said:

I agree, Rave is unfairly maligned, IMO. I think it’s a better album than Musicology which ended up with a much better reception.

Agreed wholeheartedly nod

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Reply #3 posted 11/03/19 5:50am

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All of this so very true! all except this line

“even his most diehard fans were exhausted by his output”

Nope. Continuous output was what is was all about being a diehard fan.
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Reply #4 posted 11/03/19 7:01am

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Damn! Has it really been 20 years?....Feels like yesterday when I bought "Rave". I wasn't crazy about it back then, so now I'll have go back and re-visit it.

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Reply #5 posted 11/03/19 7:43am

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2020 said:

All of this so very true! all except this line

“even his most diehard fans were exhausted by his output”

Nope. Continuous output was what is was all about being a diehard fan.


Exactly!

Rave has a few brilliant tracks (I Love U, ManOWar, Tangerine, Prettyman), otherwise it is a lower tier Prince album for me.
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Reply #6 posted 11/03/19 8:12am

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jdcxc said:

2020 said:

All of this so very true! all except this line

“even his most diehard fans were exhausted by his output”

Nope. Continuous output was what is was all about being a diehard fan.


Exactly!

Rave has a few brilliant tracks (I Love U, ManOWar, Tangerine, Prettyman), otherwise it is a lower tier Prince album for me.


It definitely has its charm & whimsical charisma and Clare Fischer has great inputs there. Take “Undisputed”, the reggae/dancehall rap & the “do you love your brother” bits and you got yourself a thoroughly strong album. For sentimental value, this album will hold a special place in my heart because it what started me as a fan back then.
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Reply #7 posted 11/03/19 11:56pm

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That album needed Arista to release other singles and plug them for airplay! TGRES was very much dominated by the remixes by other artists (Neptunes etc.) and the only place where "Baby Knows" got a look in was an impossibly rare dutch promo CDR.

Prince even did a European mini tour to support the album, but Arista were largely absent with respect to supporting it.

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Reply #8 posted 11/04/19 5:43am

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That album needed Arista to release other singles and plug them for airplay! TGRES was very much dominated by the remixes by other artists (Neptunes etc.) and the only place where "Baby Knows" got a look in was an impossibly rare dutch promo CDR.


Prince even did a European mini tour to support the album, but Arista were largely absent with respect to supporting it.



Didn’t the label go out of business during the album’s release? The Prince/Clive partnership was also fraught.

Also, it’s crazy (and interesting) that Prince left one of the best songs off...Beautiful Strange.
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Reply #9 posted 11/05/19 4:49am

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Agree with the general thrust of the article. I do think a lot of people were exhausted by his prolific output at the time but also by the negative vibe associated with him in the 90s. It wasn't a great album or one of his best, but a damn good one to be sure.

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Reply #10 posted 11/05/19 4:55am

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jdcxc said:

andrewm7 said:

That album needed Arista to release other singles and plug them for airplay! TGRES was very much dominated by the remixes by other artists (Neptunes etc.) and the only place where "Baby Knows" got a look in was an impossibly rare dutch promo CDR.


Prince even did a European mini tour to support the album, but Arista were largely absent with respect to supporting it.



Didn’t the label go out of business during the album’s release? The Prince/Clive partnership was also fraught.

Also, it’s crazy (and interesting) that Prince left one of the best songs off...Beautiful Strange.


That was EMI that went out of business. Clive Davis was ousted from Arista late 2000 which could be seen as having affected Rave. Sort of. I guess.
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Reply #11 posted 11/05/19 6:42am

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While I don't loooooove the song Undisputed. The Moneyapolis Mix from Rave In2 is very funky and the superior version of the song.

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