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Thread started 10/10/19 8:48pm

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International Lover (Take 1) out now

International Lover (Take 1) from 1999 Deluxe is out now. Source says it is from an official release by Tidal. I have not confirmed that this is on Tidal, just repeating what I was told.

Listening now. Sounds amazing!




Just confirmed that it is indeed on Tidal.

Right here:

https://tidal.com/browse/.../119484676

I would assume that it is official, although I think some unofficial stuff pops up on Tidal from time to time, so who knows.

*** https://prince.org/msg/7/461518 ***

1999 Re-issues - CD3/LP5&6

(Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)

- DISCUSSION

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Reply #1 posted 10/10/19 9:04pm

WhisperingDandelions

On official YouTube channel as well:

https://www.youtube.com/w..._o69a9ZFFA

Reply #2 posted 10/10/19 9:11pm

WhisperingDandelions

To me I could see this as the guide vocal for Morris. I could imagine when he decided to keep it for himself he probably decided to go full power with a falsetto vocal take instead, but I welcome any thoughts/citations to the contrary.

Reply #3 posted 10/10/19 9:12pm

rdhull

Itunes as well. Basically it's everywhere now.

"Climb in my fur."
Reply #4 posted 10/10/19 9:13pm

Transformed1

It is also on Amazon digital download. Not active yet. Says "Available October 11, 2019."

Also of note... The live version will also be available on October 11. <<<<nope.

"International Lover (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)"

Edit: Sorry... Live version actually says available Nov. 29. sad

[Edited 10/10/19 21:17pm]

Reply #5 posted 10/10/19 9:45pm

robertgeorge

Listened to this track. Both this and the album release are real and they are spectacular.

Reply #6 posted 10/10/19 9:52pm

rdhull

robertgeorge said:

Listened to this track. Both this and the album release are real and they are spectacular.

who told you to put the balm on?

"Climb in my fur."
Reply #7 posted 10/10/19 10:09pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame



This is effing amazing.

Reply #8 posted 10/10/19 10:16pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



This is effing amazing.


Yes music

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Reply #9 posted 10/10/19 10:30pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

luv4u said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



This is effing amazing.


Yes music



Just shows his genius.

I wasnt expecting much with this version and I was sooooooo wrong.

How did he make the same song sound so different?

Morris International. lmao

Reply #10 posted 10/10/19 10:36pm

rnb

This is great! That line where he says "Peggy, are you listening" is classic Prince!

Reply #11 posted 10/10/19 10:51pm

controversy99

Not quite what I expected. I thought this would be a more serious take on the song, something like the piano and a mic 1983 version but more flushed out. Instead this is more humorous than the original imo and certainly looser. I like it, but in a completely different when than I thought I would. Odd choice for a single, but I guess it’s something to excite the dedicated fans.
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I agree this might be a guide vocal version for Morris before Prince decided to keep it. Just speculation. That must be Morris on the drums, certainly sounds like his playing plus the directions from Prince at the end kind of remind me of bacon skin.
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A lot of little funny moments in there.
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I’ve listened to it like four times already. Gotta fall asleep soon, but I’m enjoying this too much.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
Reply #12 posted 10/11/19 12:06am

trickster

yeahhh. 100% excited

Reply #13 posted 10/11/19 1:13am

TheEnglishGent

Wow, loving this.

RIP sad
Reply #14 posted 10/11/19 1:19am

andrewm7

Im wondering if that is Lisa or Prince on keys?

Reply #15 posted 10/11/19 1:20am

langebleu

moderator

Please continue discussion of this track from the forthcoming release on the thread for that subject:

https://prince.org/msg/7/460946

EDIT: Thread unlocked - please continue to discuss this release here.

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Reply #16 posted 10/12/19 3:11am

Romeoblu

Glad to see some sense has prevailed and this thread has been unocked.

Hopefully each track will get it's own thread upon release.

Personally I'm glad this was the first taste we got of the vault discs.

For me the stuff I'm looking forward to the most is the totally unknown stuff and the other known outtakes in top notch sound quality. So kind of want expeirence them all for the first time on the same day so they don't get over played. When Originals came out I had really worn out Nothing Compares 2 U, which would have been the highlight of that set on release if that was my first exposure to it. It's only after laying off it since the originals release it's power is coming back.

The least Interestng things were Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Head / Little Red Corvette (tour demo), International Lover (Take 1), Something In The Water and How Come (longer Version).

That is not to say I have no interest in them.

This take of International Lover is great, highly enoyable and I can hear why It's been included. I was a bit worried after reading the description that it would be full of Prince and Morris joking and messing about, but that is really kept to a minimum and doesn't distract from the son at all.

Prince's vocals are great, the piano playing is amazing. I would probably still overall plump for the finished album version as my favorite but this is a great version and a great start to such a mouthwatering set.

[Edited 10/12/19 3:12am]

Reply #17 posted 10/12/19 4:53am

leadline

andrewm7 said:

Im wondering if that is Lisa or Prince on keys?


I strongly believe that is Prince playing the piano, Lisa has a completely different playing style.


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Reply #18 posted 10/12/19 5:06am

TheEnglishGent

leadline said:

andrewm7 said:

Im wondering if that is Lisa or Prince on keys?


I strongly believe that is Prince playing the piano, Lisa has a completely different playing style.


It is. From the email from the official Prince store :



RIP sad
Reply #19 posted 10/12/19 6:14am

SimonCharles

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



This is effing amazing.

yeahthat

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Try my shoes on...
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Reply #20 posted 10/12/19 6:35am

djdaffy1227

I really, really like this version. There is a part that reminds me a lot of the breakdown in "Temptation"

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
Reply #21 posted 10/12/19 6:48am

2freaky4church1

This is astounding. His vocals. The family getting it correct.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
Reply #22 posted 10/12/19 7:14am

love2thenines2003

djdaffy1227 said:

I really, really like this version. There is a part that reminds me a lot of the breakdown in "Temptation"

ure Right.....his piano style & phrasing on this one !

PS> I'm dreaming about such versions with Temptation & Condition of the heart !

Reply #23 posted 10/12/19 8:19am

AvocadosMax

The only positive thing I can say after hearing this is the quality is great which has me excited for listening to other tracks in such great quality.
Reply #24 posted 10/12/19 8:21am

jdcxc

Wow. His vocals are incredible.
Reply #25 posted 10/12/19 9:21am

RJP1205

Sooooo good! Have listened 5 or 6 times now...so fun and full of life! I really enjoyed this! He truly was special...talented, sexy, funny. So glad this was released.
Reply #26 posted 10/12/19 10:31am

SoulAlive

This is great!

Reply #27 posted 10/12/19 11:02am

EmmaMcG

rdhull said:

 



robertgeorge said:


Listened to this track. Both this and the album release are real and they are spectacular. 


 



who told you to put the balm on?



The Maestro told me to put the balm on.
Reply #28 posted 10/12/19 11:21am

fishwillbite

Was never a huge fan of the original recording on 1999, a bit thin-sounding and overwrought vocal. This is more laid-back and sounds much warmer. Prince's piano playing is stunning and Morris on the drums is always going to be awesome. It's still a pretty weak song IMO, but an enjoyable release neverthless.

PIPS! Eurgh...
Reply #29 posted 10/12/19 1:11pm

eyewishuheaven

Pure bliss. For a lot of people this would be a damn showcase. For Prince, it's clutter in the closet. eek

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #30 posted 10/12/19 3:42pm

Hamad

Well deserved for its own thread. Like I said before, this demo totally shattered my initial indifference toward the song, which used to be my least fave song from 1999. It never ceases to amaze me how beautiful & expressive his voice was when he sang R&B ballads, and in this recording not only does he sound great, but he sounded happy and having a helluva time. I never get tired of his piano playing either, like the guitar, he developed a style of his own and even though he's not a Herbie Hancock in the technical sense, I feel like he really enjoyed expressing his ideas via the piano moreso than the guitar, dare I say, even though he's more equipped in the latter, I feel he was happier with the piano. I'm surprised at how years of indifference toward a song I never cared for, sometimes an incomplete idea is more organic & superior than a completed one, this song is a perfect example. either, like the guitar, he developed a style of his own and even though he's not a Herbie Hancock in the technical sense, I feel like he really enjoyed expressing his ideas via the piano moreso than the guitar, dare I say, even though he's more equipped in the latter, I feel he was happier with the piano. I'm surprised at how years of indifference toward a song I never cared for, completely change for the better instantly. Sometimes an incomplete idea is more organic & superior than a completed one, this song is a perfect example.

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Reply #31 posted 10/12/19 5:02pm

ladygirl99

I really wish Morris Day would get more props to his drums and boy he can get it.

I think this song is one of my favorites on this track I can relate to this because Prince was letting people know love is not restricted.

And also I still feel that Prince was a better guitarist than playing piano imo BUT I do appreciate the piano chords with this one among other songs tho.

Reply #32 posted 10/12/19 7:00pm

toejam

Great to see this thread restored cool

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This is such a fascinating listen. I can't say it's better than the album version, but for historical value, this is just so damn fascinating. No falsetto, live in the studio with MD, joking with Peggy, Prince struggling to keep a straight face while delivering some of the lyrics. This is so good. And the sound quality is well beyond expectation!

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Reply #33 posted 10/12/19 8:25pm

LoveGalore

Sheer brilliance. Always loved the track and this demo is better than I expected.
Reply #34 posted 10/12/19 9:16pm

BalladofPeterParker

Absolute genius! This track is the ONE, I remember International Lover being my go to track waaaay back in the day. For those of us that were teens back when this came out ...whew...what memories! I was an "International Lover" that had to ask to borrow my parents car keys lol!!

Reply #35 posted 10/12/19 10:17pm

robertgeorge

EmmaMcG said:

rdhull said:

who told you to put the balm on?

The Maestro told me to put the balm on.

That's right cousin!

Reply #36 posted 10/13/19 1:01am

SchlomoThaHomo

Great listen. It actually gave me new appreciation for the song, which was never one of my faves. I feel he’s a bit too extra with the vocals on the album version, which kept me from taking the song as more than just a novelty number all these years. Hearing it this way helps me appreciate the great song underneath all the “stuff.”
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #37 posted 10/13/19 6:53am

thisisreece

I've always loved International Lover, and valued it as one of his greatest ballads, despite its seemingly inherent lack of sincerity. In fact, along with Free and Something in the Water, it was one of the key songs from 1999 which originally centemented my appreciation of Prince.

To paraphrase what a critic once wrote about Prince (Christgau maybe?): Was Prince serious? Was he ever not? I don't think the song can be parred off so easily as a joke. For me, the song provides the same catharsis at the end of 1999 as Adore does to Sign of the Times. Both sprawling albums, the latter ends on a note of absolute adulation, while International Lover closes 1999 on a flight of whimsy. You can almost feel it take off when the drum comes in just before the synths hit. It all builds to an amazing crescendo, which manages to be at once utterly ridiculous and entirely beautiful. And that's a feat in itself - a duality that is perhaps only achievable due to Prince's complete sincreity, even when he's being daft.

This version doesn't cut close to the released product, but it is wonderful all the same. As others have said, the preciousness of this recording, listening as Prinice and Morris work through the song in this infant stage, as Prince struggles to reign in laughter at his own jokes, cannot not be overestimated. And the piano is sublime.
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Reply #38 posted 10/13/19 1:49pm

toejam

thisisreece said:

manages to be at once utterly ridiculous and entirely beautiful

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Ha! Great description! Couldn't agree more! cool

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Reply #39 posted 10/14/19 1:55am

Krid

What an awesome sound quality.

And great to know that Prince took these lyrics with a pinch of salt - here you can really tell he was messing around biggrin

Can imagine MD making funny faces while Prince tried to keep a straight face and sing the lyrics... Young guys having a blast in the studio...

Reply #40 posted 10/14/19 6:01am

dodger

Krid said:

What an awesome sound quality.

And great to know that Prince took these lyrics with a pinch of salt - here you can really tell he was messing around biggrin

Can imagine MD making funny faces while Prince tried to keep a straight face and sing the lyrics... Young guys having a blast in the studio...

Yes, I was about to say similar. I've never been a big fan of the album version but I'm loving this. Effortlessly brilliant and funny.

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It goes great back to back with his version of Gigolos Get Lonely Too.

Reply #41 posted 10/14/19 1:54pm

RJP1205

dodger said:

 



Krid said:


What an awesome sound quality.


 


And great to know that Prince took these lyrics with a pinch of salt - here you can really tell he was messing around biggrin 


 


Can imagine MD making funny faces while Prince tried to keep a straight face and sing the lyrics... Young guys having a blast in the studio...



Yes, I was about to say similar. I've never been a big fan of the album version but I'm loving this. Effortlessly brilliant and funny.


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It goes great back to back with his version of Gigolos Get Lonely Too. 


 


 


Yes! Just happy and fun songs, a bit of humor and great to sing along to. Love both of these.
Reply #42 posted 10/14/19 2:51pm

JoeyCococo

toejam said:

Great to see this thread restored cool

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This is such a fascinating listen. I can't say it's better than the album version, but for historical value, this is just so damn fascinating. No falsetto, live in the studio with MD, joking with Peggy, Prince struggling to keep a straight face while delivering some of the lyrics. This is so good. And the sound quality is well beyond expectation!

Are you not super exceited about how good the 1999 remaster is going to sound? Wow....to be able to hear his guitar licks throughout LadyCab Driver...wow.

Reply #43 posted 10/14/19 11:58pm

love2thenines2003

JoeyCococo said:

 



toejam said:


Great to see this thread restored cool


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This is such a fascinating listen. I can't say it's better than the album version, but for historical value, this is just so damn fascinating. No falsetto, live in the studio with MD, joking with Peggy, Prince struggling to keep a straight face while delivering some of the lyrics. This is so good. And the sound quality is well beyond expectation!



 


 


Are you not super exceited about how good the 1999 remaster is going to sound?  Wow....to be able to hear his guitar licks throughout LadyCab Driver...wow.




Why did u say that? Did u listen the remaster already?
Reply #44 posted 10/15/19 11:05am

TheEnglishGent

I wonder how many takes there are in the vault.

RIP sad
Reply #45 posted 10/15/19 1:19pm

Rev

BalladofPeterParker said:

Absolute genius! This track is the ONE, I remember International Lover being my go to track waaaay back in the day. For those of us that were teens back when this came out ...whew...what memories! I was an "International Lover" that had to ask to borrow my parents car keys lol!!

yeahthat fro

Reply #46 posted 10/15/19 4:40pm

seand67

Simply amazing version.......the sound quality is so crisp. I can't wait for my Box set to arrive.

Reply #47 posted 10/16/19 8:27am

JoeyCococo

love2thenines2003 said:

JoeyCococo said:

Are you not super exceited about how good the 1999 remaster is going to sound? Wow....to be able to hear his guitar licks throughout LadyCab Driver...wow.

Why did u say that? Did u listen the remaster already?

No, but if International Take 1 is any indication (and Baby You're A Trip from Originals), the remaster is going to KICK AZZ.

Reply #48 posted 10/16/19 10:35am

RodeoSchro

rdhull said:

robertgeorge said:

Listened to this track. Both this and the album release are real and they are spectacular.

who told you to put the balm on?



Nobody can tell what a balm's going to do! This is the greatest of my many humiliations.

Reply #49 posted 10/16/19 4:32pm

WhisperingDandelions

I still feel like I have yet to hear these remasters sound "better," but they're all definitely louder, which is what I think the sound quality commentators mean.... sometimes I think it's a production thing, because the major difference in Take 1 and final release besides vocals is those high-frequency synths he preferred lacing his final productions with.

Reply #50 posted 10/16/19 5:25pm

SquirrelMeat

TheEnglishGent said:

I wonder how many takes there are in the vault.



That's what always gets me going. With Beatles vault material, many takes have leaked, and the estate even went as far as mixing alternative versions based on the best bits from each take (with Paul, George and Ringo's blessing) to create fantastic alternative versions.

Are we likely to see them all released? Unlikely. Would we prefer a Beatles approach? Debatable. Would we like to hear niether? I doubt it.

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Reply #51 posted 10/17/19 12:50am

love2thenines2003

SquirrelMeat said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I wonder how many takes there are in the vault.



That's what always gets me going. With Beatles vault material, many takes have leaked, and the estate even went as far as mixing alternative versions based on the best bits from each take (with Paul, George and Ringo's blessing) to create fantastic alternative versions.

Are we likely to see them all released? Unlikely. Would we prefer a Beatles approach? Debatable. Would we like to hear niether? I doubt it.

I want things from the vault....untouched.....except for a better sound possible with what we have in his basic form......if NOT.......this is not PRINCE anymore & i'm not interrested in !!!!!!!

neutral

Reply #52 posted 10/17/19 9:37am

jaawwnn

love2thenines2003 said:

SquirrelMeat said:



That's what always gets me going. With Beatles vault material, many takes have leaked, and the estate even went as far as mixing alternative versions based on the best bits from each take (with Paul, George and Ringo's blessing) to create fantastic alternative versions.

Are we likely to see them all released? Unlikely. Would we prefer a Beatles approach? Debatable. Would we like to hear niether? I doubt it.

I want things from the vault....untouched.....except for a better sound possible with what we have in his basic form......if NOT.......this is not PRINCE anymore & i'm not interrested in !!!!!!!

neutral

Yeah I dunno, the Beatles stuff is interesting, we already have what Prince wanted released so anything else is already going against his wishes.

I agree full takes are ideal but what if they have 27 alternate takes, including errors and half-finished versions, of a song? I'd be happy if they threw them all up as a download/streaming but as a physical release some kind of mixing and matching would be fine by me.

Reply #53 posted 10/18/19 2:43pm

LoveGalore

jaawwnn said:

 



love2thenines2003 said:


 



SquirrelMeat said:


 




That's what always gets me going. With Beatles vault material, many takes have leaked, and the estate even went as far as mixing alternative versions based on the best bits from each take (with Paul, George and Ringo's blessing) to create fantastic alternative versions.

Are we likely to see them all released? Unlikely. Would we prefer a Beatles approach? Debatable. Would we like to hear niether? I doubt it. 



 


 


I want things from the vault....untouched.....except for a better sound possible with what we have in his basic form.....if NOT.....this is not PRINCE anymore & i'm not interrested in !!!!!


 


neutral



Yeah I dunno, the Beatles stuff is interesting, we already have what Prince wanted released so anything else is already going against his wishes.

I agree full takes are ideal but what if they have 27 alternate takes, including errors and half-finished versions, of a song? I'd be happy if they threw them all up as a download/streaming but as a physical release some kind of mixing and matching would be fine by me. 


The org would detonate if they did that. Look how many people went apeshit over Originals.

Edit: If they released cobbled together versions.
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Reply #54 posted 10/19/19 4:39pm

SquirrelMeat

jaawwnn said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I want things from the vault....untouched.....except for a better sound possible with what we have in his basic form......if NOT.......this is not PRINCE anymore & i'm not interrested in !!!!!!!

neutral

Yeah I dunno, the Beatles stuff is interesting, we already have what Prince wanted released so anything else is already going against his wishes.

I agree full takes are ideal but what if they have 27 alternate takes, including errors and half-finished versions, of a song? I'd be happy if they threw them all up as a download/streaming but as a physical release some kind of mixing and matching would be fine by me.


Did you ever hear the Beatle Love album? (A remix album made for Cirque du Soleil).

It had fantatic production and gave a really refreshing take on old songs. I wouldn't mind them doing that with Prince as long as, a) we get the orginals, and b) they are clear about what they are doing.

But I'm with you, I would love to hear all the versions. That's where a hardcore subsciption model could work for the estate if they were bold enough.

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Reply #55 posted 11/07/19 4:03pm

bwaaatch

fishwillbite said:

Was never a huge fan of the original recording on 1999, a bit thin-sounding and overwrought vocal. This is more laid-back and sounds much warmer. Prince's piano playing is stunning and Morris on the drums is always going to be awesome. It's still a pretty weak song IMO, but an enjoyable release neverthless.

Same for me. Always been a bit of a skipper on the album – just a bit too processed and thin. This version is so much more interesting and more human.

Funny how often he tried to bury the warmth and humour in his work, in certain periods of his career. I guess at this point the Time were the funny guys, so his take had to be different.

I find much of the album pretty thin and metalic sounding, which sometimes seems appropriate and other times not. Interesting to hear if the overal tone will change with the remaster. Don't hate, but I think I'd prefer it beefed up.

Reply #56 posted 11/11/19 4:35am

sulls

Was on 4 planes this past weekend and felt like I should have International Lover queued up when the flight attendants did their safety spiel. biggrin

"I like to watch."
Reply #57 posted 11/12/19 3:58pm

Lovejunky

I JUST LOVE this version....

Please bring us all the first takes....

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”

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