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Reply #60 posted 09/09/19 7:04am

jdcxc

BartVanHemelen said:



funksterr said:


Hope not. Prince's original vision for the record should be respected.



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Like the UK vinyl from back in the day? Or the first CD release that omitted a track?


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Release Vault track under a clearly marked Demos banner. I get that these type of "Deluxe" versions are the norm in an industry where actual artists are rare, and few if any have creative control over a re-release, but Prince Estate has more power than this. He was clear about not wanting his original vision diluted in this way.



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You're talking about the dude who did "1999 The New Master", an atrocious record.



Stop it. You’re also talking about the dude who made one of the greatest, most innovative and important albums (1999) of all time.

That being said, this release shud not be treated the same as the original. A huge part of the package must be tastefully aimed straight at the hardcore fanbase. And there is no reason that WB/Estate shouldn’t get this right.
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Reply #61 posted 09/09/19 7:18am

pricetag

BartVanHemelen said:



love2thenines2003 said:


https://twitter.com/write...81569?s=19




SO ???.....we will See in few days if this info/rumour is right or not?



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Yeah sure, they're going to release an album on THANKSGIVING.


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Sheesh, that person couldn't even be arsed to link to their source, which is an amateurish video from "Prince's Friend" who obviously likes to believe utter nonsense.


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(Seriously, what is it with this cottage industry of Prince vloggers who all are unable to produce watchable videos that get to the point? A point which often could be made in a single tweet -- yet they seem to need a five+ minute rambling video which makes less and less sense the longer they go on.)

What would you know about Thanksgiving? You’re a million miles from America.
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Reply #62 posted 09/09/19 10:11am

Madhouse6

It’s been confirmed a release is coming by Rock It Poole who sell Prince associated items
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Reply #63 posted 09/09/19 10:31am

soladeo1

What's reeeeeaaaaaallllyyyy intriguing is that there are supposedly THIRTY VAULT TRACKS on the 1999:DELUXE release!!

Holy moly!!!

30???!!

I am only aware of ~14 1999 Era "Vault" tracks:

Purple Music
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
Lust U Always
Horny Toad
You're All I Want
Extralovable
Turn It Up
U Should Be Mine
Yah, U Know
If It'll Make U Happy
Don't Let Him Fool Ya
Fox Trap
No Call U
Moonbean Levels

What else could there be???

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Reply #64 posted 09/09/19 11:00am

renfield

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soladeo1 said:

What's reeeeeaaaaaallllyyyy intriguing is that there are supposedly THIRTY VAULT TRACKS on the 1999:DELUXE release!!

Holy moly!!!

30???!!

I am only aware of ~14 1999 Era "Vault" tracks:

Purple Music
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
Lust U Always
Horny Toad
You're All I Want
Extralovable
Turn It Up
U Should Be Mine
Yah, U Know
If It'll Make U Happy
Don't Let Him Fool Ya
Fox Trap
No Call U
Moonbean Levels

What else could there be???

"Delirious" and "Something In The Water" both have unreleased alternate versions but yeah...if this is true I hope it's 30 actual unreleased songs (or significantly different versions of released tunes) and not just a handful of unreleased tracks and 19 different studio outtakes of Little Red Corvette with slightly different mixes.

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Reply #65 posted 09/09/19 1:26pm

jfenster

Madhouse6 said:

It’s been confirmed a release is coming by Rock It Poole who sell Prince associated items

is there a link

??

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Reply #66 posted 09/09/19 1:30pm

jfenster

Madhouse6 said:

It’s been confirmed a release is coming by Rock It Poole who sell Prince associated items

this is all it says:

CONFIRMED!
Following many rumours, we are thrilled to confirm that a Deluxe Reissue of 1999 will be the next release from WB. The issue is set to be very similar to the Purple Rain reissue and to contain both a Vinyl, a CD and DVD. We will post more information as soon as we are allowed #Prince #Prince4E

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Reply #67 posted 09/09/19 1:34pm

Apollo85

jfenster said:

Madhouse6 said:

It’s been confirmed a release is coming by Rock It Poole who sell Prince associated items

is there a link

??

https://twitter.com/RockItPooleUK/status/1171021431649558528

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Reply #68 posted 09/09/19 1:41pm

Savannah

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Hmmmm 30 ?

01 Xtraloveable
02 Purple Music
03 No Call U
04 Lust U Always
05 Horny Toad
06 G Spot
07 Tick Tick Bang
08 How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
09 Delirious
10 Cool
11 3 x 2 = 6
12 You're All I Want
13 Irresistible Bitch
14 Chocolate
15 Don't Let Him Fool Ya
16 Fox Trap
17 Turn It Up
18 Hump U
19 Ya U Know
20 If It'll Make U Happy
21 Jerk Out
22 Lust U Always
23 Mia Bocca
24 Moonbeam Levels
25 Promise 2 Be True
26 Strange Relationship
27 Teacher Teacher
28 U Should Be Mine
29 The Walk
30 Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me

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Reply #69 posted 09/09/19 1:45pm

ChocolateBox31
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soladeo1 said:

What's reeeeeaaaaaallllyyyy intriguing is that there are supposedly THIRTY VAULT TRACKS on the 1999:DELUXE release!!

Holy moly!!!

30???!!

I am only aware of ~14 1999 Era "Vault" tracks:

Purple Music
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
Lust U Always
Horny Toad
You're All I Want
Extralovable
Turn It Up
U Should Be Mine
Yah, U Know
If It'll Make U Happy
Don't Let Him Fool Ya
Fox Trap
No Call U
Moonbean Levels

What else could there be???

Over SIXTY songs have been re-mastered. Including but not limited to the MEGA 1999 Deluxe fourthcoming project.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #70 posted 09/09/19 2:00pm

SoulAlive

Savannah said:

Hmmmm 30 ?

01 Xtraloveable
02 Purple Music
03 No Call U
04 Lust U Always
05 Horny Toad
06 G Spot
07 Tick Tick Bang
08 How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
09 Delirious
10 Cool
11 3 x 2 = 6
12 You're All I Want
13 Irresistible Bitch
14 Chocolate
15 Don't Let Him Fool Ya
16 Fox Trap
17 Turn It Up
18 Hump U
19 Ya U Know
20 If It'll Make U Happy
21 Jerk Out
22 Lust U Always
23 Mia Bocca
24 Moonbeam Levels
25 Promise 2 Be True
26 Strange Relationship
27 Teacher Teacher
28 U Should Be Mine
29 The Walk
30 Wouldn't U Love 2 Love Me

This set is gonna be amazing! So many excellent songs to choose from.Can't wait!

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Reply #71 posted 09/09/19 2:59pm

FunkyStrange

feeluupp said:

Also keep in mind Rock It Poole works directly with the estate as it gets numerous inventory and stock from them to sell.



Really? It was only very recently the estate were going after them for allegedly selling unofficial products. if they were working that closely that would seem quite strange.
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Reply #72 posted 09/09/19 4:06pm

bluefish

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love2thenines2003 said:

https://twitter.com/write...81569?s=19

SO ???.....we will See in few days if this info/rumour is right or not?


Cool to see that my tweet was quoted here! biggrin

‎https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvmsrcg1qD_wVuS4qnopmQg
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Reply #73 posted 09/10/19 12:46pm

AnnaSantana

BartVanHemelen said:



Urine said:


The Violet Reality have already confirmed that 1999 deluxe is coming.

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No they have not. They've posted a video full of conjecture which features the awesome logic that their extremely solid sources are telling them the album isn't happening so these sources must be confused.


I'm with Bart.
finger DONALD TRUMP
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Reply #74 posted 09/10/19 1:04pm

kindofblue

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Reply #75 posted 09/10/19 1:06pm

Madhouse6

kindofblue said:




YES - 5 cds and dvd or 10 LPs
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Reply #76 posted 09/10/19 1:07pm

Madhouse6

kindofblue said:




YES - 5 cds and dvd or 10 LPs
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Reply #77 posted 09/10/19 1:18pm

SoulAlive

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Reply #78 posted 09/10/19 1:19pm

SoulAlive

where is "Extra Lovable"?

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Reply #79 posted 09/10/19 1:21pm

feeluupp

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SoulAlive said:

where is "Extra Lovable"?

Man theres a sticky about the 1999 Deluxe, stop posting here.

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Reply #80 posted 09/10/19 3:04pm

willie

glad that 1999 will be out in november(pre-merry xmas)anyway my cd version of 1999,audio wise sounds very muddy,so i welcome the re-master,the unreleased tracks(30)xcited 4 that,the DVD in concert that's great cause that's when i saw prince in radio city music hall,so i'm psyched

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Reply #81 posted 09/11/19 3:52am

udo

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Why was PR not of this calibre?

Why can they now deliver somwhat of an actual box set?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #82 posted 09/11/19 4:03am

VaultCurator

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udo said:

Why was PR not of this calibre?

Why can they now deliver somwhat of an actual box set?

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Two theories:

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1) When WB claimed that this was the intended release that Prince had a hand in they were actually telling the truth. As such an expansive posthumous release wasn't on the table at the time. (I highly doubt this was the case, but maybe there is some truth to it).

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2) Minimise risk. Being the first deluxe set, I guess they didn't want to go overboard to see how the public responded to it. The same reason why the vinyl release was a single record and not a multi LP box set. Hopefully they are pleased with how Prince's stuff is selling at the moment.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
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Reply #83 posted 09/11/19 6:58am

rafael

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VaultCurator said:

udo said:

Why was PR not of this calibre?

Why can they now deliver somwhat of an actual box set?

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Two theories:

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1) When WB claimed that this was the intended release that Prince had a hand in they were actually telling the truth. As such an expansive posthumous release wasn't on the table at the time. (I highly doubt this was the case, but maybe there is some truth to it).

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2) Minimise risk. Being the first deluxe set, I guess they didn't want to go overboard to see how the public responded to it. The same reason why the vinyl release was a single record and not a multi LP box set. Hopefully they are pleased with how Prince's stuff is selling at the moment.

But is it really selling that much lately?

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Reply #84 posted 09/11/19 9:10am

PURPLEIZED3121

are we keep ALL 1999 threads open?! Come on Mods - 1 sticky is enough already.

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Reply #85 posted 09/11/19 9:29am

blacknote

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VaultCurator said:

udo said:

Why was PR not of this calibre?

Why can they now deliver somwhat of an actual box set?

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Two theories:

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1) When WB claimed that this was the intended release that Prince had a hand in they were actually telling the truth. As such an expansive posthumous release wasn't on the table at the time. (I highly doubt this was the case, but maybe there is some truth to it).

.

2) Minimise risk. Being the first deluxe set, I guess they didn't want to go overboard to see how the public responded to it. The same reason why the vinyl release was a single record and not a multi LP box set. Hopefully they are pleased with how Prince's stuff is selling at the moment.

Third possibility: WB wanted to make the PR reissue as big as the forthcoming 1999 deluxe editions. However, Prince kept stonewalling WB for more money. There was a tweet by Prince before he died explaining the delay from his perspective. He said that WB was not paying the proper licensing fees and there would be reissues galore once WB decided to divide the “pie” fairly.

Prince & WB were two years into their distribution deal and nothing was released besides the Prince/3rdEyeGirl releases and vinyl reissues. Once Prince died, WB had to put something out, albeit hastily, hence the PR remaster.

[Edited 9/11/19 9:30am]

[Edited 9/11/19 9:31am]

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Reply #86 posted 09/11/19 9:36am

ChocolateBox31
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blacknote said:

VaultCurator said:

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Two theories:

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1) When WB claimed that this was the intended release that Prince had a hand in they were actually telling the truth. As such an expansive posthumous release wasn't on the table at the time. (I highly doubt this was the case, but maybe there is some truth to it).

.

2) Minimise risk. Being the first deluxe set, I guess they didn't want to go overboard to see how the public responded to it. The same reason why the vinyl release was a single record and not a multi LP box set. Hopefully they are pleased with how Prince's stuff is selling at the moment.

Third possibility: WB wanted to make the PR reissue as big as the forthcoming 1999 deluxe editions. However, Prince kept stonewalling WB for more money. There was a tweet by Prince before he died explaining the delay from his perspective. He said that WB was not paying the proper licensing fees and there would be reissues galore once WB decided to divide the “pie” fairly.

Prince & WB were two years into their distribution deal and nothing was released besides the Prince/3rdEyeGirl releases and vinyl reissues. Once Prince died, WB had to put something out, albeit hastily, hence the PR remaster.

[Edited 9/11/19 9:30am]

[Edited 9/11/19 9:31am]

It's ALWAYS been VERY sad to me that Prince(r.i.p.) didn't live long enough to reap the benefits of ownership of his master recordings to which he fought for the majority of his short but fruitful life. sad

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
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Reply #87 posted 09/11/19 9:57am

blacknote

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

blacknote said:

Third possibility: WB wanted to make the PR reissue as big as the forthcoming 1999 deluxe editions. However, Prince kept stonewalling WB for more money. There was a tweet by Prince before he died explaining the delay from his perspective. He said that WB was not paying the proper licensing fees and there would be reissues galore once WB decided to divide the “pie” fairly.

Prince & WB were two years into their distribution deal and nothing was released besides the Prince/3rdEyeGirl releases and vinyl reissues. Once Prince died, WB had to put something out, albeit hastily, hence the PR remaster.

[Edited 9/11/19 9:30am]

[Edited 9/11/19 9:31am]

It's ALWAYS been VERY sad to me that Prince(r.i.p.) didn't live long enough to reap the benefits of ownership of his master recordings to which he fought for the majority of his short but fruitful life. sad

My greatest concern was that Prince would be locked into a brutal lawsuit with WB just as it appeared that he was winding down his recording career. He obtained his masters and he was writing a memoir. It seemed that he was preparing for a more relaxed phase in his life minus recording/touring. To have that hampered by a lawsuit with WB because that distribution deal didn’t reap any results would’ve been the saddest thing to me.

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Reply #88 posted 09/11/19 11:45am

lurker316

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Amazon has is listed as being released on November 15th, not the 28th.

The CD set is $70 bucks and the vinyl set is $250:

https://www.amazon.com/19...amp;sr=8-6

https://www.amazon.com/19...amp;sr=8-5








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Reply #89 posted 09/11/19 12:00pm

Strive

blacknote said:

VaultCurator said:

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Two theories:

.

1) When WB claimed that this was the intended release that Prince had a hand in they were actually telling the truth. As such an expansive posthumous release wasn't on the table at the time. (I highly doubt this was the case, but maybe there is some truth to it).

.

2) Minimise risk. Being the first deluxe set, I guess they didn't want to go overboard to see how the public responded to it. The same reason why the vinyl release was a single record and not a multi LP box set. Hopefully they are pleased with how Prince's stuff is selling at the moment.

Third possibility: WB wanted to make the PR reissue as big as the forthcoming 1999 deluxe editions. However, Prince kept stonewalling WB for more money. There was a tweet by Prince before he died explaining the delay from his perspective. He said that WB was not paying the proper licensing fees and there would be reissues galore once WB decided to divide the “pie” fairly.

Prince & WB were two years into their distribution deal and nothing was released besides the Prince/3rdEyeGirl releases and vinyl reissues. Once Prince died, WB had to put something out, albeit hastily, hence the PR remaster.


Fourth possibility: Prince only delivered the remaster of Purple Rain to WB and had no intention of doing a deluxe edition like they wanted. He talked about doing a new best of with them but only made it as far as selecting the artwork.

Prince's sudden death left WB scrambling to capitalize on the moment. So they hastily assembled things from the sources they had on hand. 4Ever using a lesser source for Moonbeam Levels and announcing TMBGITW in the press release. Purple Rain Deluxe having a number of quality issues and announcing that it would have two concerts included, before the estate decided to auction off First Ave 1983 to the highest bidder instead of letting Warner have it.

Now that all of the tapes are cataloged in Iron Mountain and most of the legalities have been figured out, WB doesn't have to scramble. They request materials, Howe finds said material and then they compile it into a retail release. Easy.

There's no giant third party demand for the Summit video or the Detroit soundboard like there was for the First Ave 83 show.

My speculation is that this 1999 Deluxe release is a stress test for the market. How quickly can they release material and how much can they get away with charging before it starts to have an adverse effect on the sales numbers? I think things are going to ramp up considerably for 2020.

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