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Prince Classic, 1999, Reissues In Remastered 5 CD/DVD, 10 LP/DVD Boxes - Release: November 29




Via Casey Rain aka Militant wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axtKIsmhV5k



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Purple Deluxe update: https://www.youtube.com/w...DpyU57bysM


It's now official !!!! [luv4u]

[Pre-order date unknown at this time. Watch for updates - luv4u]

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Tracklisting included below!!


https://funkatopia.com/fu...e-reissue/

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Prince Facebook page Announcement (including artwork): https://www.facebook.com/...7763136664

Covers:

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New artwork:

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https://www.prince.com/article/1999




Former album artwork:

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On November 15, Warner Brothers Music will return to 1999 with a Super Deluxe package that will be reissued on 5CD/1DVD and 10LP/1DVD box sets. Both sets will feature new remastering for the classic album, as well as deliver a collection of vault tracks, promo mixes and B-sides, and a previously unreleased live performance set from a Detroit show on November 30, 1982. The DVD will provide video for his previously unreleased live set at The Summit in Houston, TX on December 29, 1982. The boxes are rounded out with a stuffed booklet of new liner notes, detailed Vault Tracks notes, rare photos, and copies of the lyrics in handwritten form.

Warner Brothers Records will also release 4LP and 2CD versions of 1999 that include the original album, and the promo mixes and B-sides, all with 2019 remaster.

1999 (Super Deluxe Box – 5CD/1DVD; 10LP/1DVD) – Prince


CD1/LP1&2 (Original Album with 2019 Remaster)
01 1999
02 Little Red Corvette
03 Delirious
04 Let’s Pretend We’re Married
05 D.M.S.R.
06 Automatic
07 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
08 Free
09 Lady Cab Driver
10 All The Critics Love U In New York
11 International Lover



CD2/LP3&4 (Promo Mixes and B-sides, 2019 Remaster)
01 1999 (7″ Stereo Edit)
02 1999 (7″ Mono Promo-Only Edit)
03 Free (Promo Only Edit
04 How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore
05 Little Red Corvette (7″ Edit)
06 All The Critics Love U In New York (7″ Edit)
07 Lady Cab Driver (7″ Edit)
08 Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit)
09 Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix)
10 Delirious (7″ Edit)
11 Horny Toad
12 Automatic (7″ Edit)
13 Automatic (Video Version)
14 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Edit)
15 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Mono Promo Only Edit)
16 Irresistible Bitch
17 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Video Version)
18 D.M.S.R. (Edit)



CD3/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)



CD4/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)



CD5/LP9&10 (Live In Detroit at Masonic Temple Theater, Masonic Hall (Late Show) – November 30, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Little Red Corvette
04 Do Me, Baby
05 Head
06 Uptown
07 Lisa’s Keyboard Interlude
08 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 D.M.S.R.



DVD (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, – December 29, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Do Me, Baby
04 D.M.S.R.
05 Keyboard Interlude
06 Piano Improvisation
07 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
08 Lady Cab Driver
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 Head

Reply #1 posted 08/01/19 7:12pm

sulls

Like to see the original Possessed on this one as well.
"I like to watch."
Reply #2 posted 08/01/19 9:55pm

TrivialPursuit

sulls said:

Like to see the original Possessed on this one as well.


Unlikely that will happen. There's room for plenty of unreleased songs.

In general - I'm quite curious to see what they fill up on another CD with this release. I do believe it'll happen. And I believe, along with Militant, that Originals and PAAM 1983 sort of de-prioritized 1999 Deluxe - for now. If it doesn't come out later this year, 2020 spring would be perfect, around March or April. I am just surmising that.

Whatever comes out, we'll never be short on new Prince music.

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
Reply #3 posted 08/01/19 11:03pm

jstar69

They say October? A couple of months away? No year stated though! Fingers crossed
Reply #4 posted 08/01/19 11:39pm

udo

I did not hear them say 'double', 'triple' or whatever...

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Reply #5 posted 08/02/19 12:49am

love2thenines2003

udo said:

I did not hear them say 'double', 'triple' or whatever...

Maybe Militant might inlight us a little more about the format ?

[Edited 8/2/19 1:11am]

Reply #6 posted 08/02/19 12:50am

jjam

If there's no press release about this by the end of this month, there's no way it'll be released this year.

Reply #7 posted 08/02/19 1:15am

love2thenines2003

jjam said:

If there's no press release about this by the end of this month, there's no way it'll be released this year.

Press release 4 originals was in April for a June release ...right ? ....so ?

Reply #8 posted 08/02/19 1:56am

BartVanHemelen

love2thenines2003 said:

jjam said:

If there's no press release about this by the end of this month, there's no way it'll be released this year.

Press release 4 originals was in April for a June release ...right ? ....so ?

.

Last months of the year are extremely competitive WRT releases.

.

[Edited 8/2/19 1:57am]

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Reply #9 posted 08/02/19 2:06am

Moonbeam

This gives me hope that it will happen as Militant has come through before.

Hope I don't get crapped on for this, but I recently re-did my all time favorite albums list and wrote about the personal impact each of the top 25 had on me. 1999 is my all-time favorite, so needless to say, I'd be incredibly excited if this came to be. Here's what I wrote:

#1: Prince - 1999 (1982)

Ordering this top 25 has been very difficult. I've actually changed the order of the remaining albums a few times, making this exercise feel a bit like Album Survivor. That said, there was never any doubt that 1999 would be my #1. The way it has imprinted itself on my soul blows everything else away.

When I first heard Prince in 1989, I encountered some of his earlier singles through music videos during days-long MTV video marathons where they would play several videos from tons of artists. In this way I discovered the magic of songs like "When Doves Cry", "Let's Go Crazy", "Raspberry Beret", "Kiss", "U Got the Look", and "Alphabet St.". But it was "1999" that hooked me. The opening fanfare of the synths immediately grabbed my attention, soon joined by that first Earth-shattering rumble of the Linn 1 drum machine, and then exploded into a funk bonanza with the delectable bass and guitar licks. The way it wedded the neon of synths with the irresistible gravitational pull of funk left me completely mesmerised, connecting to the deepest part of me. It sounded so massive, an unconquerable force of nature that unleashed unfathomable joy and perpetual motion all at once, tapping into some unlocked quintessence of me later joined by The Gap Band's "You Dropped a Bomb on Me" and Stevie Wonder's "My Eyes Don't Cry".

I started to buy music that year after my parents bought me a cassette player. I quickly bought a BackTrax cassette single featuring "1999" and "Little Red Corvette", another herculean song which used its synths so differently, ebbing and flowing with cinematic warmth before kicking into pop/rock immortality. I played it over and over until I eventually bought a cassette of the whole album, and thus began my decades-long obsession with this album. Actually, the word "album" doesn't cut it, as 1999 feels like an entire world unto itself. Indeed, the songs felt like they were conceived or hatched or unearthed in an isolated lab, cracking open new dimensions that melded sounds and images and all sorts of emotions into a sort of primal omnipresence.

Every single song ingrained itself into my every fiber. I discovered with delight that "1999" offered even more thrills than the sub 4-minute single version I knew and loved, opening with a robotic god-like voice announcing its desire for the listener to have fun before the rumbles of the Linn 1 deliver just that, activating the galactic motion of the thing for over 6 minutes of extended revelry. "Little Red Corvette" was improved with its extended pyrotechnics as well, while "Delirious" was an immediate hit for me with its squeaking synths amplifying a delightful zaniness. "Let's Pretend We're Married" paired Hi-NRG relentlessness with wanton desire in pulsating bursts of megavoltage. "D.M.S.R." was a call to arms for revellers of all sorts, with sassy, brassy synths prancing atop lethal slap bass licks guaranteed to shake and quake a crowd. The synths in "Automatic" were so singularly captivating, transmitting an alien glow equal parts eerie and irresistible. Both "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)", with its fractured nightmarish magma of scalding synths, frenzied Linn drum patterns, and primordial shrieks as well as "Free" with its anthemic fireworks ignited my emotions. "Lady Cab Driver" blended blistering rock volcanism with thumping funk rhythms, and "All the Critics Love U in New York" convulsed with such a galvanizing freakiness that my face contorted inexorably to the rhythm of its hyperfunkplasma. And the swansong ballad "International Lover" ended the voyage with decadent verve.

1999 engaged me on all levels - it sparked my imagination, burned deep within my soul, and willed me to dance as if by remote control. The purple neon futuresynth soundscape that ties the album together saw my awestruck wonder extend to seemingly limitless heights. Most of the songs stretched to 6, 7, 8, or 9 minutes, but I felt they could go on forever, drowning each corner of my being in succulent splashes of serotonin. More than that, 1999 emboldened me to remain true to myself. In Prince, I had found a hero - this 5'3" titan of a man raised his freak flag so unapologetically high for all to see. At 10 years old, I had begun to feel like I didn't quite fit in, but 1999 helped to instill within me an insistence that I would not, could not change who I was at my core. If Prince could overcome the family troubles that saw him leave home at 12 as well as God-knows-what harassment due to his race, height, and comfort with his feminine side to release something so unrelentingly badass, I could face my troubles headfirst as well. In this way I felt not only permission, but a DUTY to be myself when I played the album. I had a very strong sense of who I was, and with 1999 I had a reliable way to reconnect with my sense of self when times got hard. If I needed confidence, I could blast "1999" or "D.M.S.R." to pep myself up. When I felt heartbreak or loneliness, I could lose myself in the guttural wails of "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)" to exorcise those demons. If I felt like I was too weird for the world, I could play "Automatic" or "All the Critics Love U in New York" and feel encouraged to not only accept, but celebrate the quirks that made me… me.

I became a bit of a "purple evangelist", unable to help myself from proselytising about the wonders of Prince and his music. I've bought dozens of copies of 1999 over the years, both for myself and as gifts to others, even strangers who overheard it playing at a drive-thru window. It became a part of my identity, and my resultant Prince fandom changed my life in major ways, introducing me to dozens of friends, and eventually, the love of my life. I wouldn't have met my wife Tracy without Prince. I wouldn't have moved to Australia and started my career as a university academic without Prince. I wouldn't have my son without Prince. In Prince, I found not only an identity to help guide me throughout my childhood and adolescence, but a unique map to my wife, my new home country, and an entirely new life for me. And it was the opening rumble of "1999" that opened the door.

As such, as an album 1999 is the Alpha and the Omega for me. It was on 1999 that the peak of Prince's hunger met the peak of his vision and the peak of his ambition, creating the most vibrant soundscape of any album ever made. It is a 70 minute symphony of neon purple lasers illuminating a pitch black sky that will thrill and amaze me until the day I die. The wails of "Something in the Water" still go right through my core, that drum machine rumble in "1999" still moves with seismic thunder, the alien synthscape of "Automatic" still leaves me breathless, the twisted funk of "All the Critics in New York" still ignites wild fits of dancing in me, the propulsion of "Let's Pretend We're Married" still inhabits me with each pulse, the punishing bass and sassy synth of "D.M.S.R." still get me moving thousands of listens later.

It creates the most vivid pictures in my mind. I mean look at those worlds on the cover art that he drew! Prince made those worlds come to life in such a visual, visceral way. The ladder in the E leading up to the red staircase that climbs into the clouds in particular is so striking. And the guy isn't climbing the stairs as much as he is GROOVING his way up them. If I could think of one image of what Prince's music can do, it would be this. If "everybody's looking for the ladder" as Prince would later sing, I found mine in 1999.

Top 3 songs:

"Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)"
"1999"
"All the Critics Love U in New York"

Full review here

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Reply #10 posted 08/02/19 2:12am

BartVanHemelen

Sheesh, a 9 minute video which somehow still manages to fail to include that Peggy McReary said that the long/unedited version of "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" is coming out soon: https://variety.com/2019/...203235532/

.

Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?

.

Oh, and the interview with Michael Howe wasn't with a Dutch magazine, it was with Humo, a Belgian magazine.

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Reply #11 posted 08/02/19 2:14am

BartVanHemelen

Moonbeam said:

This gives me hope that it will happen as Militant has come through before.

.

Baseless speculation is a whole other ballgame than getting actual evidence.

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Reply #12 posted 08/02/19 3:21am

VaultCurator

jjam said:

If there's no press release about this by the end of this month, there's no way it'll be released this year.

.

Warner seem to be releasing one album per year pretty consistently. 4Ever (2016), Purple Rain Deluxe (2017), Piano & A Microphone 1983 (2018), Originals (2019). I highly doubt their will be another Prince release before Christmas. It’s too close to Originals. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be extremely happy if they did.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #13 posted 08/02/19 3:23am

Moonbeam

BartVanHemelen said:

 



Moonbeam said:


This gives me hope that it will happen as Militant has come through before.



.


Baseless speculation is a whole other ballgame than getting actual evidence.



That’s true, but if the sources they have for this are the same as what they have had before, there is at least a track record of validity.

There has been a lot of speculation about 1999 Deluxe, and maybe this is as well, but I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
Reply #14 posted 08/02/19 5:01am

Romeoblu

That video is full of conjecture and there isn't any new information at all.


Needless to say if it does get released the Violet Reality will claim to have broken news.
Reply #15 posted 08/02/19 5:03am

feeluupp

Romeoblu said:

That video is full of conjecture and there isn't any new information at all. Needless to say if it does get released the Violet Reality will claim to have broken news.

lol lol

Reply #16 posted 08/02/19 7:43am

leadline

The 4 songs they say will be on it are:

1. Jerk Out 82 version

2. Lust U Always

3. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) - Alternate version

4. Extraloveable original version

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #17 posted 08/02/19 7:49am

love2thenines2003

leadline said:

The 4 songs they say will be on it are:
 
1. Jerk Out 82 version


2. Lust U Always


3. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) - Alternate version


4. Extraloveable original version



How come u don't call me anymore extended version cf Mc Creary Peggy Interview
[Edited 8/2/19 8:08am]
Reply #18 posted 08/02/19 8:50am

yello1

love2thenines2003 said:

leadline said:

The 4 songs they say will be on it are:

1. Jerk Out 82 version

2. Lust U Always

3. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) - Alternate version

4. Extraloveable original version

How come u don't call me anymore extended version cf Mc Creary Peggy Interview [Edited 8/2/19 8:08am]

I´ve lose all hope in listening to really new material if Sony in 2021 changes the way of doing things ... if there is going to be the same amount of songs as in PR DELUXE ...nothing to expect my predictions:
6. No Call U
7. Purple Music
8. Yah, U K now
9. Don´t Let Him Fool Ya
10. If It´ll Make U Happy
11. Little Red Corvette (Alternate Take)
what about those songs that nobody had heard talk ?
On the other hand I am tired of the material Prince gave to other artists sung by him (Originals it´s a disappointment to me) ... not to mention the frankestein mixes (outrageous)...
What more conservative minds resorting to things already edited or highly bootleged that the FANS have already heard ... there is no NEW material? I think this is quite far from the Prince mentality (regarding what Michael Howe says in the interviews) if he were alive ... because normally he was throwing unheard material.

[Edited 8/2/19 8:52am]

Reply #19 posted 08/02/19 9:30am

soladeo1

A full-length version of IF IT'LL MAKE U HAPPY would be, by itself, worth the price of admission.

Reply #20 posted 08/02/19 9:32am

leadline

yello1 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

leadline said: How come u don't call me anymore extended version cf Mc Creary Peggy Interview [Edited 8/2/19 8:08am]

I´ve lose all hope in listening to really new material if Sony in 2021 changes the way of doing things ... if there is going to be the same amount of songs as in PR DELUXE ...nothing to expect my predictions:
6. No Call U
7. Purple Music
8. Yah, U K now
9. Don´t Let Him Fool Ya
10. If It´ll Make U Happy
11. Little Red Corvette (Alternate Take)
what about those songs that nobody had heard talk ?
On the other hand I am tired of the material Prince gave to other artists sung by him (Originals it´s a disappointment to me) ... not to mention the frankestein mixes (outrageous)...
What more conservative minds resorting to things already edited or highly bootleged that the FANS have already heard ... there is no NEW material? I think this is quite far from the Prince mentality (regarding what Michael Howe says in the interviews) if he were alive ... because normally he was throwing unheard material.

[Edited 8/2/19 8:52am]


Not sure if the same guy that botched the Originals songs by drowning Prince's voice is a billion pounds of reverb did the mixes for 1900 Deluxe, probably, hopefully, it is a different person. Voilet reality was saying those are the only 4 confirmed, there will be more, so the ones you listed still have a shot.

I bet the estate is working through the bootlegged stuff first, it would allow them to hurt the market, at least for studio stuff.



[Edited 8/2/19 9:32am]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #21 posted 08/02/19 9:39am

yello1

leadline said:


Not sure if the same guy that botched the Originals songs by drowning Prince's voice is a billion pounds of reverb did the mixes for 1900 Deluxe, probably, hopefully, it is a different person. Voilet reality was saying those are the only 4 confirmed, there will be more, so the ones you listed still have a shot.

I bet the estate is working through the bootlegged stuff first, it would allow them to hurt the market, at least for studio stuff.



[Edited 8/2/19 9:32am]

Hopefully not...for both sad

wink

Reply #22 posted 08/02/19 10:05am

yello1

soladeo1 said:

A full-length version of IF IT'LL MAKE U HAPPY would be, by itself, worth the price of admission.

I agree

Reply #23 posted 08/02/19 10:13am

leadline

yello1 said:

leadline said:


Not sure if the same guy that botched the Originals songs by drowning Prince's voice is a billion pounds of reverb did the mixes for 1900 Deluxe, probably, hopefully, it is a different person. Voilet reality was saying those are the only 4 confirmed, there will be more, so the ones you listed still have a shot.

I bet the estate is working through the bootlegged stuff first, it would allow them to hurt the market, at least for studio stuff.



[Edited 8/2/19 9:32am]

Hopefully not...for both sad

wink


Definitely hopefully not on the cornering the bootleg market. but it would be smart on their part.

[Edited 8/2/19 10:51am]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #24 posted 08/02/19 10:43am

BartVanHemelen

yello1 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

leadline said: How come u don't call me anymore extended version cf Mc Creary Peggy Interview [Edited 8/2/19 8:08am]

I´ve lose all hope in listening to really new material if Sony in 2021 changes the way of doing things ...

.

Or you could read the press release about that deal and INFORM YOURSELF.

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Reply #25 posted 08/02/19 12:30pm

Rev

Moonbeam said:

This gives me hope that it will happen as Militant has come through before.

Hope I don't get crapped on for this, but I recently re-did my all time favorite albums list and wrote about the personal impact each of the top 25 had on me. 1999 is my all-time favorite, so needless to say, I'd be incredibly excited if this came to be. Here's what I wrote:

#1: Prince - 1999 (1982)

Ordering this top 25 has been very difficult. I've actually changed the order of the remaining albums a few times, making this exercise feel a bit like Album Survivor. That said, there was never any doubt that 1999 would be my #1. The way it has imprinted itself on my soul blows everything else away.

When I first heard Prince in 1989, I encountered some of his earlier singles through music videos during days-long MTV video marathons where they would play several videos from tons of artists. In this way I discovered the magic of songs like "When Doves Cry", "Let's Go Crazy", "Raspberry Beret", "Kiss", "U Got the Look", and "Alphabet St.". But it was "1999" that hooked me. The opening fanfare of the synths immediately grabbed my attention, soon joined by that first Earth-shattering rumble of the Linn 1 drum machine, and then exploded into a funk bonanza with the delectable bass and guitar licks. The way it wedded the neon of synths with the irresistible gravitational pull of funk left me completely mesmerised, connecting to the deepest part of me. It sounded so massive, an unconquerable force of nature that unleashed unfathomable joy and perpetual motion all at once, tapping into some unlocked quintessence of me later joined by The Gap Band's "You Dropped a Bomb on Me" and Stevie Wonder's "My Eyes Don't Cry".

I started to buy music that year after my parents bought me a cassette player. I quickly bought a BackTrax cassette single featuring "1999" and "Little Red Corvette", another herculean song which used its synths so differently, ebbing and flowing with cinematic warmth before kicking into pop/rock immortality. I played it over and over until I eventually bought a cassette of the whole album, and thus began my decades-long obsession with this album. Actually, the word "album" doesn't cut it, as 1999 feels like an entire world unto itself. Indeed, the songs felt like they were conceived or hatched or unearthed in an isolated lab, cracking open new dimensions that melded sounds and images and all sorts of emotions into a sort of primal omnipresence.

Every single song ingrained itself into my every fiber. I discovered with delight that "1999" offered even more thrills than the sub 4-minute single version I knew and loved, opening with a robotic god-like voice announcing its desire for the listener to have fun before the rumbles of the Linn 1 deliver just that, activating the galactic motion of the thing for over 6 minutes of extended revelry. "Little Red Corvette" was improved with its extended pyrotechnics as well, while "Delirious" was an immediate hit for me with its squeaking synths amplifying a delightful zaniness. "Let's Pretend We're Married" paired Hi-NRG relentlessness with wanton desire in pulsating bursts of megavoltage. "D.M.S.R." was a call to arms for revellers of all sorts, with sassy, brassy synths prancing atop lethal slap bass licks guaranteed to shake and quake a crowd. The synths in "Automatic" were so singularly captivating, transmitting an alien glow equal parts eerie and irresistible. Both "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)", with its fractured nightmarish magma of scalding synths, frenzied Linn drum patterns, and primordial shrieks as well as "Free" with its anthemic fireworks ignited my emotions. "Lady Cab Driver" blended blistering rock volcanism with thumping funk rhythms, and "All the Critics Love U in New York" convulsed with such a galvanizing freakiness that my face contorted inexorably to the rhythm of its hyperfunkplasma. And the swansong ballad "International Lover" ended the voyage with decadent verve.

1999 engaged me on all levels - it sparked my imagination, burned deep within my soul, and willed me to dance as if by remote control. The purple neon futuresynth soundscape that ties the album together saw my awestruck wonder extend to seemingly limitless heights. Most of the songs stretched to 6, 7, 8, or 9 minutes, but I felt they could go on forever, drowning each corner of my being in succulent splashes of serotonin. More than that, 1999 emboldened me to remain true to myself. In Prince, I had found a hero - this 5'3" titan of a man raised his freak flag so unapologetically high for all to see. At 10 years old, I had begun to feel like I didn't quite fit in, but 1999 helped to instill within me an insistence that I would not, could not change who I was at my core. If Prince could overcome the family troubles that saw him leave home at 12 as well as God-knows-what harassment due to his race, height, and comfort with his feminine side to release something so unrelentingly badass, I could face my troubles headfirst as well. In this way I felt not only permission, but a DUTY to be myself when I played the album. I had a very strong sense of who I was, and with 1999 I had a reliable way to reconnect with my sense of self when times got hard. If I needed confidence, I could blast "1999" or "D.M.S.R." to pep myself up. When I felt heartbreak or loneliness, I could lose myself in the guttural wails of "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)" to exorcise those demons. If I felt like I was too weird for the world, I could play "Automatic" or "All the Critics Love U in New York" and feel encouraged to not only accept, but celebrate the quirks that made me… me.

I became a bit of a "purple evangelist", unable to help myself from proselytising about the wonders of Prince and his music. I've bought dozens of copies of 1999 over the years, both for myself and as gifts to others, even strangers who overheard it playing at a drive-thru window. It became a part of my identity, and my resultant Prince fandom changed my life in major ways, introducing me to dozens of friends, and eventually, the love of my life. I wouldn't have met my wife Tracy without Prince. I wouldn't have moved to Australia and started my career as a university academic without Prince. I wouldn't have my son without Prince. In Prince, I found not only an identity to help guide me throughout my childhood and adolescence, but a unique map to my wife, my new home country, and an entirely new life for me. And it was the opening rumble of "1999" that opened the door.

As such, as an album 1999 is the Alpha and the Omega for me. It was on 1999 that the peak of Prince's hunger met the peak of his vision and the peak of his ambition, creating the most vibrant soundscape of any album ever made. It is a 70 minute symphony of neon purple lasers illuminating a pitch black sky that will thrill and amaze me until the day I die. The wails of "Something in the Water" still go right through my core, that drum machine rumble in "1999" still moves with seismic thunder, the alien synthscape of "Automatic" still leaves me breathless, the twisted funk of "All the Critics in New York" still ignites wild fits of dancing in me, the propulsion of "Let's Pretend We're Married" still inhabits me with each pulse, the punishing bass and sassy synth of "D.M.S.R." still get me moving thousands of listens later.

It creates the most vivid pictures in my mind. I mean look at those worlds on the cover art that he drew! Prince made those worlds come to life in such a visual, visceral way. The ladder in the E leading up to the red staircase that climbs into the clouds in particular is so striking. And the guy isn't climbing the stairs as much as he is GROOVING his way up them. If I could think of one image of what Prince's music can do, it would be this. If "everybody's looking for the ladder" as Prince would later sing, I found mine in 1999.

Top 3 songs:

"Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)"
"1999"
"All the Critics Love U in New York"

Full review here

WOW.

I was 14 in NYC and there were commercials on the radio for the album coming. "Music from the year 2000" with 1999 playing behind it. It was banned in my house, because of the Controersy album. So, I had to buy it on cassette to hide it. lol

I was in my own Prince world with 1999, What time is and the Vanity 6 albums playing on my boom box cool I had my first girlfriend. I was kicking purple ass !


Game changer

"All the critics Love U" was my year book signature.

Reply #26 posted 08/02/19 12:52pm

pricetag

BartVanHemelen said:

Sheesh, a 9 minute video which somehow still manages to fail to include that Peggy McReary said that the long/unedited version of "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" is coming out soon: https://variety.com/2019/...203235532/

.

Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?

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Oh, and the interview with Michael Howe wasn't with a Dutch magazine, it was with Humo, a Belgian magazine.

Haha. Belgian not Dutch. We're fucked. Ingrate.

Reply #27 posted 08/02/19 1:02pm

Ugot2shakesumthin

Love the piano demo for Something In The Water. Glad to see it officially being released.

Love the Prince version of Jerk Out as well. His version of Chocolate is awesome too, i wonder if it could be there as well?

Reply #28 posted 08/02/19 2:13pm

SoulAlive

I was hoping that this week's "big announcement" would be the 1999 Deluxe Edition.I'm ready to pre-order this thing! biggrin This project excites me much more than what has already been released.

Reply #29 posted 08/02/19 2:14pm

SoulAlive

leadline said:

3. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) - Alternate version

4. Extraloveable original version

love they need to BRING IT ON!!

Reply #30 posted 08/02/19 2:20pm

Moonbeam

yello1 said:

 



love2thenines2003 said:


leadline said:

The 4 songs they say will be on it are:
 
1. Jerk Out 82 version


2. Lust U Always


3. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) - Alternate version


4. Extraloveable original version



How come u don't call me anymore extended version cf Mc Creary Peggy Interview [Edited 8/2/19 8:08am]

 



I´ve lose all hope in listening to really new material if Sony in 2021 changes the way of doing things ... if there is going to be the same amount of songs as in PR DELUXE ...nothing to expect my predictions:

6. No Call U

7. Purple Music

8. Yah, U K now

9. Don´t Let Him Fool Ya

10. If It´ll Make U Happy

11.  Little Red Corvette (Alternate Take)

what about those songs that nobody had heard talk ?
On the other hand I am tired of the material Prince gave to other artists sung by him (Originals it´s a disappointment to me) ... not to mention the frankestein mixes (outrageous)...
What more conservative minds resorting to things already edited or highly bootleged that the FANS have already heard ... there is no NEW material? I think this is quite far from the Prince mentality (regarding what Michael Howe says in the interviews) if he were alive ... because normally he was throwing unheard material.

[Edited 8/2/19 8:52am]



I completely disagree with this line of thinking. I want to get official releases of circulating songs I have loved for years. Having them in better quality would be awesome. “Purple Music”? The piano version of “Something in the Water”? “Extraloveable”? “Lust U Always”? “No Call U”? “Do Yourself a Favor”? Yes, please!
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
Reply #31 posted 08/02/19 3:29pm

laytonian

BartVanHemelen said:

Sheesh, a 9 minute video which somehow still manages to fail to include that Peggy McReary said that the long/unedited version of "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" is coming out soon: https://variety.com/2019/...203235532/

.

Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?

.

Oh, and the interview with Michael Howe wasn't with a Dutch magazine, it was with Humo, a Belgian magazine.

Thank you.
And why can't people WRITE anymore? I'm so bored with rambling, self-congratulatory podcasts when I could read the information in two minutes.

There is already so much coming out in the fall; why would the estate want everything to crash into each other in a period of two months.
Randee St James, Morris Day and (of course) Prince all have books coming out in October.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #32 posted 08/02/19 3:30pm

feeluupp

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[Edited 8/2/19 18:21pm]

Reply #33 posted 08/02/19 3:31pm

80spfantwp

I would love a pristine, full length copy of Do Yourself a Favor cool

Reply #34 posted 08/02/19 3:46pm

VaultCurator

80spfantwp said:

I would love a pristine, full length copy of Do Yourself a Favor cool

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That would be nice. A 1999 deluxe edition wouldn't have been my first choice, but I really hope the set includes Strange Way, Do Yourself A Favor & Extraloveable.

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Personally I think we shouldn't get out hopes up about Extraloveable. All that has been confirmed is that that two of the tracks were "sexually daring". Let's face it, that could be anything.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #35 posted 08/02/19 4:47pm

jjam

I reckon one of them is an early version of Purple & Gold with golden showers references, in that case.

Reply #36 posted 08/02/19 5:02pm

VaultCurator

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #37 posted 08/02/19 6:19pm

pricetag

feeluupp said:

No offense but I had a hard time understanding the girl, she has a real thick accent...


[Snip - luv4u]
Reply #38 posted 08/02/19 6:23pm

feeluupp

pricetag said:

feeluupp said:

No offense but I had a hard time understanding the girl, she has a real thick accent...

[Snip - luv4u]

My bad... There was a part i was having a hard time understanding, at first I thought it was the accent but then realized it was a bad edit and they cut it before finishing the sentence.

Reply #39 posted 08/02/19 6:33pm

TrivialPursuit

BartVanHemelen said:

Sheesh, a 9 minute video which somehow still manages to fail to include that Peggy McReary said that the long/unedited version of "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" is coming out soon: https://variety.com/2019/...203235532/

.

Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?

.

Oh, and the interview with Michael Howe wasn't with a Dutch magazine, it was with Humo, a Belgian magazine.


[Snip - luv4u]

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
Reply #40 posted 08/02/19 11:20pm

kewlschool

VaultCurator said:

jjam said:

If there's no press release about this by the end of this month, there's no way it'll be released this year.

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Warner seem to be releasing one album per year pretty consistently. 4Ever (2016), Purple Rain Deluxe (2017), Piano & A Microphone 1983 (2018), Originals (2019). I highly doubt their will be another Prince release before Christmas. It’s too close to Originals. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be extremely happy if they did.

We also get the rerelease of Chaos and Disorder, TVE, and Emancipation. I would think they would post pone 1999 deluxe sad.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
Reply #41 posted 08/03/19 1:23am

RODSERLING

The time they decide when they will release 1999, Michael Howe would find something in the vault they would want to release first. Etc
.
I would rather bet on 1983 live at first avenue release first.
And then, Originals 2 lol
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Warner pushed back 1999 deluxe already two times. They really doesn't think there is so much hype in rereleasing an album that had already low catalogue sales for decades, and that is barely unknown in Europe.
[Edited 8/3/19 1:24am]
Reply #42 posted 08/03/19 1:27am

SoulAlive

RODSERLING said:

The time they decide when they will release 1999, Michael Howe would find something in the vault they would want to release first. Etc . I would rather bet on 1983 live at first avenue release first. And then, Originals 2 lol . Warner pushed back 1999 deluxe already two times. They really doesn't think there is so much hype in rereleasing an album that had already low catalogue sales for decades, and that is barely unknown in Europe.

Nonsense.Prince's 1999 album sold over 6 million copies worldwide.It was actually the fifth best-selling album of 1983.I think you're confusing it with another album?

Reply #43 posted 08/03/19 3:49am

IstenSzek

pray

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #44 posted 08/03/19 7:38am

RODSERLING

SoulAlive said:

 



RODSERLING said:


The time they decide when they will release 1999, Michael Howe would find something in the vault they would want to release first. Etc . I would rather bet on 1983 live at first avenue release first. And then, Originals 2 lol . Warner pushed back 1999 deluxe already two times. They really doesn't think there is so much hype in rereleasing an album that had already low catalogue sales for decades, and that is barely unknown in Europe.

 


Nonsense.Prince's 1999 album sold over 6 million copies worldwide.It was actually the fifth best-selling album of 1983.I think you're confusing it with another album?  



I think you don't know what catalogue sales means.
It means sales frim two years after the release.
80% of the sales of 1999 comes from the USA.
It sold only 900.000 copies in Europe. At the time of its initial release, none of the singles of the album charted in Europe, and the album was completely ignored.
[Edited 8/3/19 7:39am]
Reply #45 posted 08/03/19 9:43am

ChocolateBox3121

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #46 posted 08/03/19 9:56am

SoulAlive

RODSERLING said:

SoulAlive said:

Nonsense.Prince's 1999 album sold over 6 million copies worldwide.It was actually the fifth best-selling album of 1983.I think you're confusing it with another album?

I think you don't know what catalogue sales means. It means sales frim two years after the release. 80% of the sales of 1999 comes from the USA. It sold only 900.000 copies in Europe. At the time of its initial release, none of the singles of the album charted in Europe, and the album was completely ignored.

rolleyes so I guess this is the part where you try to convince us that the album was a flop?

Reply #47 posted 08/03/19 10:18am

feeluupp

SoulAlive said:

RODSERLING said:

SoulAlive said: I think you don't know what catalogue sales means. It means sales frim two years after the release. 80% of the sales of 1999 comes from the USA. It sold only 900.000 copies in Europe. At the time of its initial release, none of the singles of the album charted in Europe, and the album was completely ignored.

rolleyes so I guess this is the part where you try to convince us that the album was a flop?

lol

Actually 1999 is the second largest selling Prince album, surpassing the sales of Diamonds & Pearls. 1999 has sold over 7 million world wide.

Reply #48 posted 08/03/19 11:21am

ChocolateBox3121

feeluupp said:

SoulAlive said:

rolleyes so I guess this is the part where you try to convince us that the album was a flop?

lol

Actually 1999 is the second largest selling Prince album, surpassing the sales of Diamonds & Pearls. 1999 has sold over 7 million world wide.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #49 posted 08/04/19 9:40am

RODSERLING

1999 sold 6.5 millions worldwide, 80% of it in the US.
D&P sold more.
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Outside the US, 1999 is not a cult/classic album.
It s been 2 years there are are numerous topics about 1999 deluxe...And every year, WB decides there are better material instead to release.
.
So you all must be cautious when you re saying this is the next release. For when? Autumn 2020? From then on, the live at first avenue will surely be remasterized and ready to release.
Reply #50 posted 08/04/19 10:15am

Farfunknugin

yello1 said:

 



soladeo1 said:


A full-length version of IF IT'LL MAKE U HAPPY would be, by itself, worth the price of admission.



 


I agree


X3
Reply #51 posted 08/04/19 11:17am

Strive

From all reports, First Ave 83 has been done since before Purple Rain Deluxe was released and the documentary Apple created is also completed.

There's a definite log jam in terms of material/possible releases.
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #52 posted 08/04/19 11:39am

camilleisfunky

Whatever it's decided to be released next will likely sell the same...my opinion. Don't think it matters if it's 1999 or Parade Deluxe...wish they released some concerts or aftershocks from the 80s...
Reply #53 posted 08/04/19 11:52am

SoulAlive

feeluupp said:

SoulAlive said:

rolleyes so I guess this is the part where you try to convince us that the album was a flop?

lol

Actually 1999 is the second largest selling Prince album, surpassing the sales of Diamonds & Pearls. 1999 has sold over 7 million world wide.

nod but Rod will still find a way to downplay those big sales,lol

Reply #54 posted 08/04/19 11:55am

SoulAlive

yes,it is.

RODSERLING said:

Outside the US, 1999 is not a cult/classic album.
Reply #55 posted 08/04/19 12:12pm

Missmusicluver72

Bring it on!! cool

Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above~
The only Love there is, is the Love We Make~
Prince4Ever
Reply #56 posted 08/04/19 12:13pm

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

1999 sold 6.5 millions worldwide, 80% of it in the US. D&P sold more. . Outside the US, 1999 is not a cult/classic album. It s been 2 years there are are numerous topics about 1999 deluxe...And every year, WB decides there are better material instead to release. . So you all must be cautious when you re saying this is the next release. For when? Autumn 2020? From then on, the live at first avenue will surely be remasterized and ready to release.

Ok I just checked the most recent most accurate sales figures, you are correct, D&P is still the second largest selling Prince album with 7.1 million sales world wide. However 1999 is at 7.0 million sales world wide, not 6.5.

So his 3 top selling albums in order are:

1. Purple Rain

2. Diamonds & Pearls

3. 1999

Reply #57 posted 08/04/19 3:06pm

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

 



RODSERLING said:


1999 sold 6.5 millions worldwide, 80% of it in the US. D&P sold more. . Outside the US, 1999 is not a cult/classic album. It s been 2 years there are are numerous topics about 1999 deluxe...And every year, WB decides there are better material instead to release. . So you all must be cautious when you re saying this is the next release. For when? Autumn 2020? From then on, the live at first avenue will surely be remasterized and ready to release.

 


Ok I just checked the most recent most accurate sales figures, you are correct, D&P is still the second largest selling Prince album with 7.1 million sales world wide. However 1999 is at 7.0 million sales world wide, not 6.5.


 


 


So his 3 top selling albums in order are:


 


1. Purple Rain


2. Diamonds & Pearls


3. 1999


 



You re talking about Charmasters estimations.
But he put 5.4 millions copies (!) In the US while this is unrealistic.
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1999 was certified 3*PLATINUM in July 1985. So the sales due to the Purple Craze were also included in this certification.
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In 1992, Entertainment weekly published a figure of 5 millions worldwide.
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In march of 1999, it was certified 4*P.
So it took 14 years to sell one million more, in an era where records sold by millions.
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From 1991 to 2018 it sold 950.000 copies according to Soundscan.
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So in fact, 1999 is more near the 4.7 millions figure than an insane 5.4 millions that can't be proved and does not link official figures.
Reply #58 posted 08/04/19 8:15pm

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

Ok I just checked the most recent most accurate sales figures, you are correct, D&P is still the second largest selling Prince album with 7.1 million sales world wide. However 1999 is at 7.0 million sales world wide, not 6.5.

So his 3 top selling albums in order are:

1. Purple Rain

2. Diamonds & Pearls

3. 1999

You re talking about Charmasters estimations. But he put 5.4 millions copies (!) In the US while this is unrealistic. . 1999 was certified 3*PLATINUM in July 1985. So the sales due to the Purple Craze were also included in this certification. . In 1992, Entertainment weekly published a figure of 5 millions worldwide. . In march of 1999, it was certified 4*P. So it took 14 years to sell one million more, in an era where records sold by millions. . From 1991 to 2018 it sold 950.000 copies according to Soundscan. . So in fact, 1999 is more near the 4.7 millions figure than an insane 5.4 millions that can't be proved and does not link official figures.

We really don't know 100% what sold what, and to be honest even the RIAA certifications are all outdated and haven't been certified, we just have estimates, unless everything is to be audited, which it will never will.

Purple Rain was last certified in 1996 at 13 Million, we all know it has surpassed that.

1999 was certified 4 Million in 1999, that is in the U.S. alone. It's possible 1999 stands at 7 million world wide now, it is also possible it stands at 6, we will never know will we?

The Very Best of Prince is at least 3 Million by now in USA, but has only been certified 1 million, if TVBOP was recertified in USA it would make it his 3rd biggest selling album of all time in USA.

Reply #59 posted 08/04/19 9:36pm

leadline

There are thousands of unreleased songs in the vault, probably close to 90% of which dont exist on Princevault. You guys truly want deluxe packages of existing stuff or live concerts over getting a CD of 15 tracks you never heard of before?

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.





[Edited 8/4/19 21:39pm]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #60 posted 08/04/19 10:29pm

ChocolateBox3121

feeluupp said:

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said: You re talking about Charmasters estimations. But he put 5.4 millions copies (!) In the US while this is unrealistic. . 1999 was certified 3*PLATINUM in July 1985. So the sales due to the Purple Craze were also included in this certification. . In 1992, Entertainment weekly published a figure of 5 millions worldwide. . In march of 1999, it was certified 4*P. So it took 14 years to sell one million more, in an era where records sold by millions. . From 1991 to 2018 it sold 950.000 copies according to Soundscan. . So in fact, 1999 is more near the 4.7 millions figure than an insane 5.4 millions that can't be proved and does not link official figures.

We really don't know 100% what sold what, and to be honest even the RIAA certifications are all outdated and haven't been certified, we just have estimates, unless everything is to be audited, which it will never will.

Purple Rain was last certified in 1996 at 13 Million, we all know it has surpassed that.

1999 was certified 4 Million in 1999, that is in the U.S. alone. It's possible 1999 stands at 7 million world wide now, it is also possible it stands at 6, we will never know will we?

The Very Best of Prince is at least 3 Million by now in USA, but has only been certified 1 million, if TVBOP was recertified in USA it would make it his 3rd biggest selling album of all time in USA.

Prince(r.i.p.) even said that Purple Rain needed to be audited. That sales was far surpassed what is being reported. I believe sales are really closer to Thriller's sales 50 million plus. So glad Prince(r.i.p.) left WBR & earned what was rightfully his before he left this earth. But wisely came back to obtain ownership of his master recordings. Sadly he didn't live long enough to reap the benefits of it. sad

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #61 posted 08/04/19 10:30pm

SoulAlive

You do realize that a Deluxe Edition can have 2 or 3 discs of UNRELEASED SONGS.right? That's in addition to a fresh remaster of the original album.They could also throw in a live show from this era on a DVD,plus extensive liner notes and photos.Can't see why any longtime fan would be against that.

leadline said:

There are thousands of unreleased songs in the vault, probably close to 90% of which dont exist on Princevault. You guys truly want deluxe packages of existing stuff or live concerts over getting a CD of 15 tracks you never heard of before?

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.

Reply #62 posted 08/05/19 12:07am

mediumdry

leadline said:

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.

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You have a point. However, the rereleases can be remastered with some bonus discs of time appropriate unreleased tracks. They also aren't much in the way of releasing proper unreleased discs, like Originals or whatever they want to call it.

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My dream scenario would be a series of "originals" albums, but only with tracks from artists that weren't in his stable, or from albums that only had one or two of his tracks, like Taja Sevelle and Dale Bozzio. The albums he (almost) fully produced or wrote should come out as Deluxe versions, with the original album remastered, with a second album that mirrors the first, only with Prince versions of the tracks (and maybe demos for the one or two tracks he didn't do, like for the Mavis Staples or Sheila E albums). Then of course his own albums remastered, with bonus tracks and a period appropriate live show. One of each per year to avoid flooding the market.

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That leaves the special album projects that never happened: black is the new black, Dream Factory, Crystal Ball, High, Rebels and so on. One of those per year too.

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That would be 4 albums per year, which seems like a completely reasonable number and can be sustained for the next 25 years, which should be within the livespan of most current fans. That gives some time to think about and develop ways of getting new people into the fold if you want to continue the revenue stream. (Very succesful with the Beatles, fairly succesful with Jimi Hendrix, somewhat with Elvis Presley, less so with Bob Dylan and other 60s people)

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Doesn't seem like it's going to happen though, so I'll take what comes, official and bootleg.

Reply #63 posted 08/05/19 1:25am

leadline

SoulAlive said:

You do realize that a Deluxe Edition can have 2 or 3 discs of UNRELEASED SONGS.right? That's in addition to a fresh remaster of the original album.They could also throw in a live show from this era on a DVD,plus extensive liner notes and photos.Can't see why any longtime fan would be against that.

leadline said:

There are thousands of unreleased songs in the vault, probably close to 90% of which dont exist on Princevault. You guys truly want deluxe packages of existing stuff or live concerts over getting a CD of 15 tracks you never heard of before?

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.


I am not against anything, it is only a preference. I will take the unreleased discs that come along with the deluxe packages, but, I would I forgoe a the remastered album discs in place of discs with unreleased material? Yep, every second of the day.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #64 posted 08/05/19 2:50am

VaultCurator

leadline said:

There are thousands of unreleased songs in the vault, probably close to 90% of which dont exist on Princevault. You guys truly want deluxe packages of existing stuff or live concerts over getting a CD of 15 tracks you never heard of before?

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.

.

Please don't assume that we don't want completely unknown / unleaked songs? We're just discussing material that we like.
.
I know it's frustrating when WB are sitting on a mountain of treasure and so far we're only getting one album a year, one of which was a demo cassette and the other was a collections of previously released songs by other artists.
.
Having said that, Prince remasters are long overdue. These deluxe releases should have been done years ago when Prince was still with us, and if WB can piggy back unreleased material along with these remasters then the more the merrier. So far Purple Rain Deluxe has been the most substantial when it comes to unreleased material.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #65 posted 08/05/19 3:24pm

MIRvmn

leadline said:

There are thousands of unreleased songs in the vault, probably close to 90% of which dont exist on Princevault. You guys truly want deluxe packages of existing stuff or live concerts over getting a CD of 15 tracks you never heard of before?

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.





[Edited 8/4/19 21:39pm]


The problem is that the estate still hasn't put up site where we can purchase unreleased songs. Originals was a nice release but should have been at least a box set with 50+ songs. They're wasting time on small releases and now we probably have to wait until next year for a new album. It's frustrating and really sad considering how much unreleased stuff there is.
[Edited 8/5/19 15:25pm]
We are living in Orwell's 1984
Reply #66 posted 08/11/19 7:04am

PURPLEIZED3121

SoulAlive said:

You do realize that a Deluxe Edition can have 2 or 3 discs of UNRELEASED SONGS.right? That's in addition to a fresh remaster of the original album.They could also throw in a live show from this era on a DVD,plus extensive liner notes and photos.Can't see why any longtime fan would be against that.

leadline said:

There are thousands of unreleased songs in the vault, probably close to 90% of which dont exist on Princevault. You guys truly want deluxe packages of existing stuff or live concerts over getting a CD of 15 tracks you never heard of before?

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.

The estates incompetence knows no bounds - anything above 2 discs is beyond their thinking!

Reply #67 posted 08/11/19 7:40am

udo

SoulAlive said:

You do realize that a Deluxe Edition can have 2 or 3 discs of UNRELEASED SONGS.right?

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Like the PR remaster? See https://www.rollingstone....ms-191597/

Exactly what you got, right?

Or are you indeed in a different universe from mine and is this org thing a rather convenient method of communication between both?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Reply #68 posted 08/12/19 4:17pm

WhisperingDandelions

SoulAlive said:

You do realize that a Deluxe Edition can have 2 or 3 discs of UNRELEASED SONGS.right? That's in addition to a fresh remaster of the original album.They could also throw in a live show from this era on a DVD,plus extensive liner notes and photos.Can't see why any longtime fan would be against that.

leadline said:

There are thousands of unreleased songs in the vault, probably close to 90% of which dont exist on Princevault. You guys truly want deluxe packages of existing stuff or live concerts over getting a CD of 15 tracks you never heard of before?

I don't know about you guys, but if they keep focusing on already released stuff, none of us will be able to hear all the unreleased stuff in our lifetimes. I would much rather unreleased songs than live or reissued albums. Live stuff can be found all over the place and the albums we already have.

I used to be Team "Deluxe Editions," but really it's just license to jack up the price and double-dip. I don't understand how or "why any longtime fan would be against" purely unreleased track sets like leadline is advocating... Without any armchair record exec hypothesizing.

Are modern remasters ever good? I don't need lectures on potential, I'm talking in practical application for popular music artists from the 1980s... what are we talking like an 8% chance they get it right, maybe? Why would this even be incentive.... And it also forces them to temper their outtake selection to either the era (really only a year or two), or make weak attempts to construe outtakes from other eras as justifiable for a 1999 set.

As for liner notes and photos, well, that's probably another 10-17 bucks for the super royal badness infinite deluxe purple excretion edition to purchase the priviledge of sitting in awe of those. We're talking like an 80 dollar set at this point.

Reply #69 posted 08/13/19 1:18am

love2thenines2003

Lots of talks, desire, delirium, but no real & solid info at this stage !!

[Edited 8/13/19 4:10am]

Reply #70 posted 08/13/19 3:34am

leadline

WhisperingDandelions said:

SoulAlive said:

You do realize that a Deluxe Edition can have 2 or 3 discs of UNRELEASED SONGS.right? That's in addition to a fresh remaster of the original album.They could also throw in a live show from this era on a DVD,plus extensive liner notes and photos.Can't see why any longtime fan would be against that.

I used to be Team "Deluxe Editions," but really it's just license to jack up the price and double-dip. I don't understand how or "why any longtime fan would be against" purely unreleased track sets like leadline is advocating... Without any armchair record exec hypothesizing.

Are modern remasters ever good? I don't need lectures on potential, I'm talking in practical application for popular music artists from the 1980s... what are we talking like an 8% chance they get it right, maybe? Why would this even be incentive.... And it also forces them to temper their outtake selection to either the era (really only a year or two), or make weak attempts to construe outtakes from other eras as justifiable for a 1999 set.

As for liner notes and photos, well, that's probably another 10-17 bucks for the super royal badness infinite deluxe purple excretion edition to purchase the priviledge of sitting in awe of those. We're talking like an 80 dollar set at this point.


Very true, remasters are seldom done properly.


If I had a 1999 Deluxe in front of me vs 3 cd's of unreleased material, honestly it is a very easy choice for me to go with the 3 cd's.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #71 posted 08/13/19 2:30pm

SoulAlive

WhisperingDandelions said:

SoulAlive said:

You do realize that a Deluxe Edition can have 2 or 3 discs of UNRELEASED SONGS.right? That's in addition to a fresh remaster of the original album.They could also throw in a live show from this era on a DVD,plus extensive liner notes and photos.Can't see why any longtime fan would be against that.

I used to be Team "Deluxe Editions," but really it's just license to jack up the price and double-dip. I don't understand how or "why any longtime fan would be against" purely unreleased track sets like leadline is advocating... Without any armchair record exec hypothesizing.

Are modern remasters ever good? I don't need lectures on potential, I'm talking in practical application for popular music artists from the 1980s... what are we talking like an 8% chance they get it right, maybe? Why would this even be incentive.... And it also forces them to temper their outtake selection to either the era (really only a year or two), or make weak attempts to construe outtakes from other eras as justifiable for a 1999 set.

As for liner notes and photos, well, that's probably another 10-17 bucks for the super royal badness infinite deluxe purple excretion edition to purchase the priviledge of sitting in awe of those. We're talking like an 80 dollar set at this point.

I have a ton of Deluxe Editions by my other favorite artists and bands that are done perfectly.Check out the Beatles deleuxe editions,for example.It can be done right.Just depends on who's involved.

The thought of having crystal clear versions of "Extra Lovable",the amazing demo of "Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)" and other goodies from this era makes me wanna start a petition to get this thing released SOON lol I can't wait anymore!

Reply #72 posted 08/13/19 8:11pm

sulls

I just scored the 1999 Japanese shm mini lp on ebay. I'm quite satisfied - for the moment.

"I like to watch."
Reply #73 posted 08/17/19 7:00am

AvocadosMax

I knew i shouldn’t have gotten my hopes up. No way in hell they release it now. Guess we’ll have to get use to one little release a year. Wtf.
Reply #74 posted 08/17/19 7:02am

AvocadosMax

Prince didn’t leave a will because he knew no one was worthy of being in charge of this anyways. He knew they’d all have their eyes on $$$$$ and not pleasing fans. Estate fukken sucks
Reply #75 posted 08/17/19 7:04am

AvocadosMax

AvocadosMax said:

Prince didn’t leave a will because he knew no one was worthy of being in charge of this anyways. He knew they’d all have their eyes on $$$$$ and not pleasing fans. Estate fukken sucks

Never mind, someone like Questlove is worthy. But nooooo
Reply #76 posted 08/17/19 8:06am

RODSERLING

Michael Howe was very clear the next project will be released next year, and not this year.
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I m sure the favour will go to the live at first avenue 1983, or to an Originals vol.2, than to a 1999 deluxe.
Reply #77 posted 08/17/19 8:51am

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

Michael Howe was very clear the next project will be released next year, and not this year.
.
I m sure the favour will go to the live at first avenue 1983, or to an Originals vol.2, than to a 1999 deluxe.

He’s not in charge, nor make the decisions.
Reply #78 posted 08/17/19 9:34am

RODSERLING

pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:

Michael Howe was very clear the next project will be released next year, and not this year.
.
I m sure the favour will go to the live at first avenue 1983, or to an Originals vol.2, than to a 1999 deluxe.

He’s not in charge, nor make the decisions.


No, but as an insider, he s well aware of the estate strategy.
Moreover, he was the guy that already pushed back two times in a row the 1999 deluxe edition by submitting Piano...1983 and Originals to the powers that be.
.
Reply #79 posted 08/17/19 11:04am

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:


He’s not in charge, nor make the decisions.


No, but as an insider, he s well aware of the estate strategy.
Moreover, he was the guy that already pushed back two times in a row the 1999 deluxe edition by submitting Piano...1983 and Originals to the powers that be.
.

I’ll just have to repeat myself. He’s not in charge. Nor does he make the decisions.
Reply #80 posted 08/17/19 2:03pm

RODSERLING

pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:



No, but as an insider, he s well aware of the estate strategy.
Moreover, he was the guy that already pushed back two times in a row the 1999 deluxe edition by submitting Piano...1983 and Originals to the powers that be.
.

I’ll just have to repeat myself. He’s not in charge. Nor does he make the decisions.


That s exactly what I said, I LL have to repeat myself too.
But, as an insider, he is well aware about the estate strategy.
Moreover, he already proposed to the estate two projects in a row that pushed back the 1999 deluxe.
.
If you believe the estate is going to release 1999 deluxe in 2019, you really are a naive person.
Reply #81 posted 08/17/19 3:07pm

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:


I’ll just have to repeat myself. He’s not in charge. Nor does he make the decisions.


That s exactly what I said, I LL have to repeat myself too.
But, as an insider, he is well aware about the estate strategy.
Moreover, he already proposed to the estate two projects in a row that pushed back the 1999 deluxe.
.
If you believe the estate is going to release 1999 deluxe in 2019, you really are a naive person.

You’re tiring me out. Suppose what you say is true, why would you assume this has any bearing on the future, given that you already acknowledge he’s not in control? Humans are weird, even in the face of fact, they’ll try to prove otherwise. Are you not aware of logic?
Reply #82 posted 08/17/19 3:11pm

Mikado

I'm still wetting myself at the possibility of hearing a HQ Extraloveable.


[Edited 8/17/19 15:12pm]

A certain kind of mellow.
Reply #83 posted 08/17/19 6:16pm

AvocadosMax

They need to cut it with this one release pure year. They don’t know what they’re doing. They don’t listen to the fans in order to improve, instead they use is for $$$$$
Reply #84 posted 08/17/19 6:18pm

AvocadosMax

First Avenue 1983????? Omfg they’re just stuck in that era. They could have just added that shit to the shit 2017 “remaster” instead of fill up a disc full of edits
Reply #85 posted 08/17/19 6:20pm

AvocadosMax

Fans should sign a petition. This is just ridiculous. They have no clue. Boycott any future releases until they hand the mantle over to people more qualified
Reply #86 posted 08/18/19 5:42am

RODSERLING

pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:



That s exactly what I said, I LL have to repeat myself too.
But, as an insider, he is well aware about the estate strategy.
Moreover, he already proposed to the estate two projects in a row that pushed back the 1999 deluxe.
.
If you believe the estate is going to release 1999 deluxe in 2019, you really are a naive person.

You’re tiring me out. Suppose what you say is true, why would you assume this has any bearing on the future, given that you already acknowledge he’s not in control? Humans are weird, even in the face of fact, they’ll try to prove otherwise. Are you not aware of logic?


Estate logic = one release a year.
.
Michael Howe/ estate logic = to push back 1999 deluxe already two times in a row.
.
So even if 1999 is released,it won't be until next spring/summer.
.
Until then, as you said, humans are weird, and there are plenty chances their plans evolve into something more eventful than a réédition of an album.
.
Reply #87 posted 08/18/19 9:46am

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:


You’re tiring me out. Suppose what you say is true, why would you assume this has any bearing on the future, given that you already acknowledge he’s not in control? Humans are weird, even in the face of fact, they’ll try to prove otherwise. Are you not aware of logic?


Estate logic = one release a year.
.
Michael Howe/ estate logic = to push back 1999 deluxe already two times in a row.
.
So even if 1999 is released,it won't be until next spring/summer.
.
Until then, as you said, humans are weird, and there are plenty chances their plans evolve into something more eventful than a réédition of an album.
.
Your logic: what happened in the past MUST happen in the future. Do you even know how dumb this sounds? Answer this question first before you do anything else. I can already tell you like to deflect.
Reply #88 posted 08/18/19 11:15am

RODSERLING

pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:



Estate logic = one release a year.
.
Michael Howe/ estate logic = to push back 1999 deluxe already two times in a row.
.
So even if 1999 is released,it won't be until next spring/summer.
.
Until then, as you said, humans are weird, and there are plenty chances their plans evolve into something more eventful than a réédition of an album.
.
Your logic: what happened in the past MUST happen in the future. Do you even know how dumb this sounds? Answer this question first before you do anything else. I can already tell you like to deflect.


Hey, cut the chitchat and let s make a deal : if 1999 deluxe is released this year, I will disappear from the org eternally.
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If it's not released this year, you go.
.
Deal?
.
Reply #89 posted 08/18/19 11:29am

IstenSzek

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:
Your logic: what happened in the past MUST happen in the future. Do you even know how dumb this sounds? Answer this question first before you do anything else. I can already tell you like to deflect.
Hey, cut the chitchat and let s make a deal : if 1999 deluxe is released this year, I will disappear from the org eternally. . If it's not released this year, you go. . Deal? .


this is where some of us pray that it both does and does not get released. but hey ho.

smile

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #90 posted 08/18/19 1:09pm

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:

Your logic: what happened in the past MUST happen in the future. Do you even know how dumb this sounds? Answer this question first before you do anything else. I can already tell you like to deflect.


Hey, cut the chitchat and let s make a deal : if 1999 deluxe is released this year, I will disappear from the org eternally.
.
If it's not released this year, you go.
.
Deal?
.

I. Can’t. Even. Keep evading the question. Please. It’s making me laugh. Every time.
Reply #91 posted 08/27/19 4:01am

Moonbeam

The new article by Jon Bream about the change in management of Paisley Park includes this blurb, suggesting that 1999 Deluxe will indeed be released this year:

“Warner Bros., Prince’s original label, and Sony, via a new deal with the estate, have reissued several of his albums — including a deluxe version of “Purple Rain” with a deluxe “1999” due this year — as well as two new collections, “Piano & a Microphone 1983,” featuring some work tapes, and “Originals,” Prince’s versions of tunes he wrote for the Time, Sheila E, the Bangles and others.”

https://lmtribune.com/nation/prince-s-estate-to-assume-management-of-paisley-park/article_aef96e83-ffb5-5338-a10f-986ad35a8769.html

Of course, until there is an official announcement, I won’t be 100% convinced, but it’s more evidence in favor of a release this year.
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
Reply #92 posted 08/27/19 9:19am

ChocolateBox3121

25ivedt.jpg

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #93 posted 08/27/19 2:29pm

SoulAlive

Mikado said:

I'm still wetting myself at the possibility of hearing a HQ Extraloveable.

biggrin that song is amazing

Reply #94 posted 09/03/19 5:40pm

kewlschool

Moonbeam said:

The new article by Jon Bream about the change in management of Paisley Park includes this blurb, suggesting that 1999 Deluxe will indeed be released this year: “Warner Bros., Prince’s original label, and Sony, via a new deal with the estate, have reissued several of his albums — including a deluxe version of “Purple Rain” with a deluxe “1999” due this year — as well as two new collections, “Piano & a Microphone 1983,” featuring some work tapes, and “Originals,” Prince’s versions of tunes he wrote for the Time, Sheila E, the Bangles and others.” https://lmtribune.com/nat...a8769.html Of course, until there is an official announcement, I won’t be 100% convinced, but it’s more evidence in favor of a release this year.

Between the reissues of chaos/Rave/Versace/Emancipation/musicology/3121/Planet and the Originals release. Would they flood the market again? I hope they do. Because I'm buying that 1999 delux.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
Reply #95 posted 09/03/19 5:55pm

SoulAlive

I say,flood the market! Why keep all this music under lock and key? Release it!!
Reply #96 posted 09/04/19 11:42am

IstenSzek

kewlschool said:

Moonbeam said:

The new article by Jon Bream about the change in management of Paisley Park includes this blurb, suggesting that 1999 Deluxe will indeed be released this year: “Warner Bros., Prince’s original label, and Sony, via a new deal with the estate, have reissued several of his albums — including a deluxe version of “Purple Rain” with a deluxe “1999” due this year — as well as two new collections, “Piano & a Microphone 1983,” featuring some work tapes, and “Originals,” Prince’s versions of tunes he wrote for the Time, Sheila E, the Bangles and others.” https://lmtribune.com/nat...a8769.html Of course, until there is an official announcement, I won’t be 100% convinced, but it’s more evidence in favor of a release this year.

Between the reissues of chaos/Rave/Versace/Emancipation/musicology/3121/Planet and the Originals release. Would they flood the market again? I hope they do. Because I'm buying that 1999 delux.


I would not mind one bit if they actually released 7 unknown albums at once lol

come on, we're long time prince fans, we can handle a massive amount of tunes
coming our way.

just give us a huge boxset with 100 + songs or a set of unreleased album all at
once.

we need something to keep us entertained while they're sorting through the many
many many songs, albums, concerts, videos, rehearsals, live shows etc etc etc.

1999 Deluxe will be a nice start, but we actually need much, much more. smile


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #97 posted 09/07/19 4:54pm

BartVanHemelen

Moonbeam said:

The new article by Jon Bream about the change in management of Paisley Park includes this blurb, suggesting that 1999 Deluxe will indeed be released this year: “Warner Bros., Prince’s original label, and Sony, via a new deal with the estate, have reissued several of his albums — including a deluxe version of “Purple Rain” with a deluxe “1999” due this year — as well as two new collections, “Piano & a Microphone 1983,” featuring some work tapes, and “Originals,” Prince’s versions of tunes he wrote for the Time, Sheila E, the Bangles and others.” https://lmtribune.com/nat...a8769.html Of course, until there is an official announcement, I won’t be 100% convinced, but it’s more evidence in favor of a release this year.

.

He's just repeated the BS he wrote in April. He has ZERO evidence.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #98 posted 09/09/19 5:06am

dodger

Let the games begin..

https://twitter.com/rockitpooleuk/status/1171021431649558528?s=21
Reply #99 posted 09/09/19 6:16am

ChocolateBox3121

eat-crow-idiom-meaning.png

25ivedt.jpg

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #100 posted 09/09/19 7:02am

SchlomoThaHomo



Prince waking from the dead to slap the shit outta you for continuing to post that hideous advert.


"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #101 posted 09/09/19 7:23am

pricetag

SchlomoThaHomo said:



Prince waking from the dead to slap the shit outta you for continuing to post that hideous advert. 



Prince ‘waking from the dead’? What poor taste!
Reply #102 posted 09/09/19 8:25am

Jerky

Surely “on the fourth day of November” would be the best for such a release?

How many agree “we need a Purple High, turn it up!”
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
Reply #103 posted 09/09/19 8:29am

sulls

yeahthat

"I like to watch."
Reply #104 posted 09/09/19 8:53am

jaawwnn

Will only buy it if ChocolateBox's MASTERPIECE artwork design makes the cut, purple christmas decorations and all.

Reply #105 posted 09/09/19 9:42am

andrewm7

I'll be happy if it happens, and one way or another it is likely to happen eventually in some form or another...
Question is what and when, and nobody has anything but speculation on that front
Reply #106 posted 09/09/19 9:48am

SchlomoThaHomo

pricetag said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:



Prince waking from the dead to slap the shit outta you for continuing to post that hideous advert. 



Prince ‘waking from the dead’? What poor taste!


I find that artwork even less tasteful.

Also, I don’t know what you’re expecting with a screen name like ShlomoThaHomo. shrug
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #107 posted 09/09/19 9:55am

Mikado

jaawwnn said:

Will only buy it if ChocolateBox's MASTERPIECE artwork design makes the cut, purple christmas decorations and all. 



We stan an artistic queen.
A certain kind of mellow.
Reply #108 posted 09/09/19 11:48pm

pricetag

SchlomoThaHomo said:

pricetag said:


Prince ‘waking from the dead’? What poor taste!


I find that artwork even less tasteful.

Also, I don’t know what you’re expecting with a screen name like ShlomoThaHomo. shrug

All of your verbiage went straight past my bat I’m afraid. Can’t make head nor tail of it.
Reply #109 posted 09/10/19 7:21am

love2thenines2003

Thursday is the DAY from what i know ...We'll C ! cool

Reply #110 posted 09/10/19 11:11am

BoraBora

https://www.musictap.com/2019/09/10/prince-classic-1999-reissues-in-remastered-5cd-dvd-10lp-dvd-boxes/

Prince Classic, 1999, Reissues In Remastered 5CD/DVD, 10LP/DVD Boxes

Prince left behind a lasting legacy which has resulted in a number of recent reissues and releases for the collecting Prince fan. Without speedbumps, the music keeps coming. One of his more popular albums was 1999. 1999 was the first one to hit multi-Platinum status for the innovative singer.

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On November 15, Warner Brothers Music will return to 1999 with a Super Deluxe package that will be reissued on 5CD/1DVD and 10LP/1DVD box sets. Both sets will feature new remastering for the classic album, as well as deliver a collection of vault tracks, promo mixes and B-sides, and a previously unreleased live performance set from a Detroit show on November 30, 1982. The DVD will provide video for his previously unreleased live set at The Summit in Houston, TX on December 29, 1982. The boxes are rounded out with a stuffed booklet of new liner notes, detailed Vault Tracks notes, rare photos, and copies of the lyrics in handwritten form.

Warner Brothers Records will also release 4LP and 2CD versions of 1999 that include the original album, and the promo mixes and B-sides, all with 2019 remaster.

1999 (Super Deluxe Box – 5CD/1DVD; 10LP/1DVD) – Prince


CD1
/LP1&2 (Original Album with 2019 Remaster)
01 1999
02 Little Red Corvette
03 Delirious
04 Let’s Pretend We’re Married
05 D.M.S.R.
06 Automatic
07 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
08 Free
09 Lady Cab Driver
10 All The Critics Love U In New York
11 International Lover


CD2
/LP3&4 (Promo Mixes and B-sides, 2019 Remaster)
01 1999 (7″ Stereo Edit)
02 1999 (7″ Mono Promo-Only Edit)
03 Free (Promo Only Edit
04 How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore
05 Little Red Corvette (7″ Edit)
06 All The Critics Love U In New York (7″ Edit)
07 Lady Cab Driver (7″ Edit)
08 Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit)
09 Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix)
10 Delirious (7″ Edit)
11 Horny Toad
12 Automatic (7″ Edit)
13 Automatic (Video Version)
14 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Edit)
15 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Mono Promo Only Edit)
16 Irresistible Bitch
17 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Video Version)
18 D.M.S.R. (Edit)


CD3
/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)


CD4
/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)


CD5
/LP9&10 (Live In Detroit at Masonic Temple Theater, Masonic Hall (Late Show) – November 30, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Little Red Corvette
04 Do Me, Baby
05 Head
06 Uptown
07 Lisa’s Keyboard Interlude
08 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 D.M.S.R.


DVD
(Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, – December 29, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Do Me, Baby
04 D.M.S.R.
05 Keyboard Interlude
06 Piano Improvisation
07 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
08 Lady Cab Driver
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 Head

[Edited 9/10/19 11:13am]

Reply #111 posted 09/10/19 11:25am

tmcjb

Holy shit.
"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
Reply #112 posted 09/10/19 11:32am

ChocolateBox3121

BoraBora said:

https://www.musictap.com/2019/09/10/prince-classic-1999-reissues-in-remastered-5cd-dvd-10lp-dvd-boxes/

Prince Classic, 1999, Reissues In Remastered 5CD/DVD, 10LP/DVD Boxes

Prince left behind a lasting legacy which has resulted in a number of recent reissues and releases for the collecting Prince fan. Without speedbumps, the music keeps coming. One of his more popular albums was 1999. 1999 was the first one to hit multi-Platinum status for the innovative singer.

Prince-1999-5CD1DVD10LP.jpg?resize=400%2C400

On November 15, Warner Brothers Music will return to 1999 with a Super Deluxe package that will be reissued on 5CD/1DVD and 10LP/1DVD box sets. Both sets will feature new remastering for the classic album, as well as deliver a collection of vault tracks, promo mixes and B-sides, and a previously unreleased live performance set from a Detroit show on November 30, 1982. The DVD will provide video for his previously unreleased live set at The Summit in Houston, TX on December 29, 1982. The boxes are rounded out with a stuffed booklet of new liner notes, detailed Vault Tracks notes, rare photos, and copies of the lyrics in handwritten form.

Warner Brothers Records will also release 4LP and 2CD versions of 1999 that include the original album, and the promo mixes and B-sides, all with 2019 remaster.

1999 (Super Deluxe Box – 5CD/1DVD; 10LP/1DVD) – Prince


CD1
/LP1&2 (Original Album with 2019 Remaster)
01 1999
02 Little Red Corvette
03 Delirious
04 Let’s Pretend We’re Married
05 D.M.S.R.
06 Automatic
07 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
08 Free
09 Lady Cab Driver
10 All The Critics Love U In New York
11 International Lover


CD2
/LP3&4 (Promo Mixes and B-sides, 2019 Remaster)
01 1999 (7″ Stereo Edit)
02 1999 (7″ Mono Promo-Only Edit)
03 Free (Promo Only Edit
04 How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore
05 Little Red Corvette (7″ Edit)
06 All The Critics Love U In New York (7″ Edit)
07 Lady Cab Driver (7″ Edit)
08 Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit)
09 Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix)
10 Delirious (7″ Edit)
11 Horny Toad
12 Automatic (7″ Edit)
13 Automatic (Video Version)
14 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Edit)
15 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Mono Promo Only Edit)
16 Irresistible Bitch
17 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Video Version)
18 D.M.S.R. (Edit)


CD3
/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)


CD4
/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)


CD5
/LP9&10 (Live In Detroit at Masonic Temple Theater, Masonic Hall (Late Show) – November 30, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Little Red Corvette
04 Do Me, Baby
05 Head
06 Uptown
07 Lisa’s Keyboard Interlude
08 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 D.M.S.R.


DVD
(Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, – December 29, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Do Me, Baby
04 D.M.S.R.
05 Keyboard Interlude
06 Piano Improvisation
07 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
08 Lady Cab Driver
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 Head

[Edited 9/10/19 11:13am]

I've just lost my breath! giggle

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #113 posted 09/10/19 11:34am

purplepolitician

yeahthat What I'm saying! You're all I want foodnow. All Dem shits gimme gimme gimme 😛.
Purple music does things to my brain. I'm high.
Reply #114 posted 09/10/19 11:34am

VaultCurator

No Extra Loveable! No fucking Extra Loveable!!! shoot2 Arrgggghhhh
RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #115 posted 09/10/19 11:36am

Musze

Holy fucking shit. A full "IF IT'LL MAKE U HAPPY".... biggrin

I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
Reply #116 posted 09/10/19 11:37am

Strive

VaultCurator said:

No Extra Loveable! No fucking Extra Loveable!!! shoot2 Arrgggghhhh
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #117 posted 09/10/19 11:39am

feeluupp

Ok this is great BUT... It is absolutely unexcuseable to NOT include EXTRALOVEABLE on the 1999 Deluxe.

But I guess the estate doesn't want any drama with the RAPE lyrics in this day and age especially with the Me Too movement going on.

Reply #118 posted 09/10/19 11:40am

leadline

Looks like The Voilet Reality was right again.

Honestly, this release is beyond any expectation, it is so good you almost think it has to be fake, cannot describe how happy it makes me to see so much in this set, it gives me great hope for future sets.

Would have loved to have seen the Jerk Out and Lust U Always on there as tvr reported, but that's ok, this set is surprisingly thorough and well laid out.

Now we just gotta cross our fingers that the guy who drowned Originals with his PHD in reverb, didn't do the same to all of thses tracks.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #119 posted 09/10/19 11:41am

feeluupp

VaultCurator said:

No Extra Loveable! No fucking Extra Loveable!!! shoot2 Arrgggghhhh

They literally didn't include the TWO BEST songs from that era... Extra Loveable and Lust U Always.

confused

Reply #120 posted 09/10/19 11:47am

djdaffy1227

I'm only interested in CD 3&4. I have to spend an arm and a leg for those two. Dang it.

[Edited 9/10/19 11:48am]

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
Reply #121 posted 09/10/19 11:47am

Strive

I hope they're saving those two (and Jerk Out) for another release and not holding them because they're scared of the broke-brain, empty-pocket, cancel culture.
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #122 posted 09/10/19 11:48am

SleezyG

feeluupp said:

VaultCurator said:

No Extra Loveable! No fucking Extra Loveable!!! shoot2 Arrgggghhhh

They literally didn't include the TWO BEST songs from that era... Extra Loveable and Lust U Always.

confused

Fucking heartbroken. All I want is that fucking guitar solo from EL in good quality.

now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
Reply #123 posted 09/10/19 11:52am

ThirdStrike

feeluupp said:

VaultCurator said:

No Extra Loveable! No fucking Extra Loveable!!! shoot2 Arrgggghhhh

They literally didn't include the TWO BEST songs from that era... Extra Loveable and Lust U Always.

confused

Aren't these the two songs which include the "rape" reference? Probably the reason why they are not included...

Reply #124 posted 09/10/19 11:55am

SleezyG

ThirdStrike said:

feeluupp said:

They literally didn't include the TWO BEST songs from that era... Extra Loveable and Lust U Always.

confused

Aren't these the two songs which include the "rape" reference? Probably the reason why they are not included...


Depending on the source, just drop the vocals at that part. It's not rocket science.

Unless it is, and that's not possible. It's just silly in this day and age to not clean that up if you can.

now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
Reply #125 posted 09/10/19 11:55am

VaultCurator

feeluupp said:

Ok this is great BUT... It is absolutely unexcuseable to NOT include EXTRALOVEABLE on the 1999 Deluxe.

But I guess the estate doesn't want any drama with the RAPE lyrics in this day and age especially with the Me Too movement going on.

.

Do you know what? Fuck it! I know I'm about to say something controversial and I can't believe I'm saying it. Right now, I'd take a censord version!

.
I know this would upset a ton of people, and I agree it's not ideal, but the thought of that amazing track never seeing the light of day because of what is essentially a ridiculous ad lib is just a transitivity.

.

I know I should be celebrating along with everyone else right now. I’m so pleased to see ‘Do yourself a favour’ on there and Moonbeam is getting a remaster, but I’m just so bummed out by this.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #126 posted 09/10/19 11:56am

ThirdStrike

SleezyG said:

ThirdStrike said:

Aren't these the two songs which include the "rape" reference? Probably the reason why they are not included...


Depending on the source, just drop the vocals at that part. It's not rocket science.

Unless it is, and that's not possible. It's just silly in this day and age to not clean that up if you can.

Agreed. But, from what I've read in the last few minutes, it's most likely the reason they were excluded. But you're absoluteley correct...

Reply #127 posted 09/10/19 11:57am

leadline

Does the musictap site not work for anyone else?

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #128 posted 09/10/19 12:01pm

Mikado

well that fucking blows.

A certain kind of mellow.
Reply #129 posted 09/10/19 12:02pm

fabriziovenerandi

Why masturbation when you have CD3&4 of 1999 deluxe?

Reply #130 posted 09/10/19 12:04pm

soladeo1

TAKE MY MONEY NOW!!!!

That's all I can say.

For Mega Completists, though, besides LUST U ALWAYS and EXTRALOVABLE there are two other

1999 era "Vault" tracks missing:

FOX TRAP, and

U SHOULD BE MINE

Reply #131 posted 09/10/19 12:11pm

soladeo1

But my heavens...

...a COMPLETE If It'll Make U Happy????!!!!

I am in heaven!!!

[Edited 9/10/19 12:11pm]

Reply #132 posted 09/10/19 12:18pm

SleezyG

I mean, the rest of the set is pretty impressive- can't say I'm not excited for the full-quality versions of stuff like Purple Music and Do Yourself a Favor.

now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
Reply #133 posted 09/10/19 12:19pm

Apollo85

I can totally live without Extraloveable when we're getting a full If It’ll Make U Happy, TURN IT UP, and Feel U Up/Irrestiable Bitch.

This release means so much moving forward. What a great fucking day mannnnn.

Reply #134 posted 09/10/19 12:20pm

soladeo1

I've heard the Masonic Lodge Detroit Nov 30th, 1982 show...

Straight from the board, un-mastered, IT FREAKIN' KILLS!!!!

Fantastic $^&@#^#^#^#@ performance - it's going to BLOW U AWAY!!!!

Reply #135 posted 09/10/19 12:26pm

urvile

I just wanted to pop on and say that I’m fine with Extralovable not making it. I imagine it will see a proper release someday. I don’t generally care what Prince wanted to release or not, but on this when I can respect his wishes (most likely)

As for Lust U Always, too bad but overall I’m pretty happy . Doesn’t appear I’ve heard most of these . Anywho gtg take care
Reply #136 posted 09/10/19 12:28pm

VaultCurator

Apollo85 said:

I can totally live without Extraloveable when we're getting a full If It’ll Make U Happy, TURN IT UP, and Feel U Up/Irrestiable Bitch.

This release means so much moving forward. What a great fucking day mannnnn.

.

Disagree with Extra Loveable.

.

However you are right about what this means moving forward. It means that Warner Bros are committed to remastering Prince’s most important albums, that they are willing to chance larger box sets, and they are not constricting themselves to one Prince release a year. All of which are positive.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #137 posted 09/10/19 12:31pm

sulls

SleezyG said:

feeluupp said:

They literally didn't include the TWO BEST songs from that era... Extra Loveable and Lust U Always.

confused

Fucking heartbroken. All I want is that fucking guitar solo from EL in good quality.

yeahthat

"I like to watch."
Reply #138 posted 09/10/19 12:31pm

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:
Your logic: what happened in the past MUST happen in the future. Do you even know how dumb this sounds? Answer this question first before you do anything else. I can already tell you like to deflect.
Hey, cut the chitchat and let s make a deal : if 1999 deluxe is released this year, I will disappear from the org eternally. . If it's not released this year, you go. . Deal? .

This here. It's just beautiful. You've got a deal.

Reply #139 posted 09/10/19 12:33pm

sulls

Why the bullshit edits again? Didn't we complain enough about the PR Deluxe inclusion? Jeez...

"I like to watch."
Reply #140 posted 09/10/19 12:33pm

feeluupp

pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said: Hey, cut the chitchat and let s make a deal : if 1999 deluxe is released this year, I will disappear from the org eternally. . If it's not released this year, you go. . Deal? .

This here. It's just beautiful. You've got a deal.

ROD lol lol

Reply #141 posted 09/10/19 12:36pm

SleezyG

sulls said:

Why the bullshit edits again? Didn't we complain enough about the PR Deluxe inclusion? Jeez...

That's a hell of a point. Why do we need the audio for the video version of "Let's Pretend We're Married"? Most people don't even know there was a video. The mono version of "1999"? Cut it out. There's enough stuff there, previously discussed exclusions nonwithstanding.

now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
Reply #142 posted 09/10/19 12:40pm

sulls

While I'm excited for this release, i find it MADDENING that Extraloveable and Lust U Always are not included. Goddammit... neutral

"I like to watch."
Reply #143 posted 09/10/19 12:42pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

leadline said:

Does the musictap site not work for anyone else?


It does but it seems to be having issues. I had viewed the page previously with no issues. I think the org crashed it lol

Edmonton, AB - canada
Mod Goddess of the SNIP & BAN Making Moves - OF4S
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #144 posted 09/10/19 12:45pm

dodger

sulls said:

While I'm excited for this release, i find it MADDENING that Extraloveable and Lust U Always are not included. Goddammit... neutral



Yes, those and the rumoured Jerk Out were the main 3 I was looking forward to.
Reply #145 posted 09/10/19 12:45pm

TheEnglishGent

Is this a legit source? Is it reported anywhere else?

RIP sad
Reply #146 posted 09/10/19 12:46pm

JoeyCococo

I just hope Nik Bolas had something to do with the 1999 remaster. That is the one I"m looking forward to most...as well as some of the vault stuff.
I think i have a soundboard of the 1982 show and i'm pretty sure i've had the Houston video forever. Still, it will be realy neat to see if they are able to clean it up well.

Reply #147 posted 09/10/19 12:46pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

TheEnglishGent said:

Is this a legit source? Is it reported anywhere else?



Posts

It is official!!!! 1999 super deluxe edition coming November 15th, 2019!!
5 CD/1 DVD set. 10LP/1 DVD set. REMASTERED with LOADS of unreleased tracks!!!!
https://www.musictap.com/...ues-in…/

MUSICTAP.COM
Prince left behind a lasting legacy which has resulted in a number of recent reissues and releases for the collecting Prince fan. Without speedbumps, the music keeps coming. One of his more popular…



and

Funkatopia.com (Track listing is listed)

https://funkatopia.com/fu...e-reissue/

Edmonton, AB - canada
Mod Goddess of the SNIP & BAN Making Moves - OF4S
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #148 posted 09/10/19 12:49pm

leadline

luv4u said:

leadline said:

Does the musictap site not work for anyone else?


It does but it seems to be having issues. I had viewed the page previously with no issues. I think the org crashed it lol


Purple Power..........thanks luv4u.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
Reply #149 posted 09/10/19 12:54pm

darkroman

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

Reply #150 posted 09/10/19 12:55pm

geetee71

sulls said:

Why the bullshit edits again? Didn't we complain enough about the PR Deluxe inclusion? Jeez...


.
I hang out at superdeluxeedition.com for news about physical releases from my non-Prince interests. Over there, collectors get super frothy over the inclusion of rare versions and complain when (on a release like this) the collection of edits/remixes is not exhaustive.
.
Ultimately, different people want different things and it’s not always possible to please everyone 100%.
.
Personally I think they’ve done pretty well here, with a good mix of released edits/versions, 2 discs of unreleased tracks/demos and two different live shows (rather than just including the audio for the same show which I’ve seen som3 sets do). This works for me biggrin
.
Reply #151 posted 09/10/19 12:56pm

lust

darkroman said:

[Off topic snip - luv4u]



[Off topic snip - luv4u]
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #152 posted 09/10/19 12:57pm

lust

CONFIRMED: Tracklist for new 1999 deluxe release, 15th November.

CD1/LP1&2 (Original Album with 2019 Remaster)
01 1999
02 Little Red Corvette
03 Delirious
04 Let’s Pretend We’re Married
05 D.M.S.R.
06 Automatic
07 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
08 Free
09 Lady Cab Driver
10 All The Critics Love U In New York
11 International Lover

CD2/LP3&4 (Promo Mixes and B-sides, 2019 Remaster)
01 1999 (7″ Stereo Edit)
02 1999 (7″ Mono Promo-Only Edit)
03 Free (Promo Only Edit
04 How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore
05 Little Red Corvette (7″ Edit)
06 All The Critics Love U In New York (7″ Edit)
07 Lady Cab Driver (7″ Edit)
08 Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit)
09 Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix)
10 Delirious (7″ Edit)
11 Horny Toad
12 Automatic (7″ Edit)
13 Automatic (Video Version)
14 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Edit)
15 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Mono Promo Only Edit)
16 Irresistible Bitch
17 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Video Version)
18 D.M.S.R. (Edit)

CD3/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)

CD4/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)

CD5/LP9&10 (Live In Detroit at Masonic Temple Theater, Masonic Hall (Late Show) – November 30, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Little Red Corvette
04 Do Me, Baby
05 Head
06 Uptown
07 Lisa’s Keyboard Interlude
08 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 D.M.S.R.

DVD (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, – December 29, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Do Me, Baby
04 D.M.S.R.
05 Keyboard Interlude
06 Piano Improvisation
07 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
08 Lady Cab Driver
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 Head
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #153 posted 09/10/19 1:02pm

TheEnglishGent

luv4u said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Is this a legit source? Is it reported anywhere else?



Posts

It is official!!!! 1999 super deluxe edition coming November 15th, 2019!!
5 CD/1 DVD set. 10LP/1 DVD set. REMASTERED with LOADS of unreleased tracks!!!!
https://www.musictap.com/...ues-in…/

MUSICTAP.COM
Prince left behind a lasting legacy which has resulted in a number of recent reissues and releases for the collecting Prince fan. Without speedbumps, the music keeps coming. One of his more popular…



and

Funkatopia.com (Track listing is listed)

https://funkatopia.com/fu...e-reissue/

Awesome, thanks

RIP sad
Reply #154 posted 09/10/19 1:03pm

Rimshottbob

These things will always leave out some track or other that someone wanted in there - and I love Extraloveable just as much as the next person, but I cannot BELIEVE anyone is complaining about this deluxe set.

Finally things are beginning to pick up speed and take shape - 10LPs !!!! YES!!!! THAT'S what I'm talking about. This is exactly what a Super Deluxe Edition of a Prince album should look like.

This looks like an AMAZING set. Of course the edits are going to be on there. Where else should they live?

Let's just hope that the mastering is up to the standards of the recent Sony reissues, then we'll be in for a real treat. Sony have set the bar very high indeed this year.

Massively looking forward to this! I thought I was pretty well covered in terms of boots from this era, but there are several tracks on this set that i've never even heard of let alone heard.... Can't wait.

[Edited 9/10/19 13:04pm]

Reply #155 posted 09/10/19 1:07pm

SleezyG

I'm terrified to think of what the price will be on the LP set. Probably close to $400.

now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
Reply #156 posted 09/10/19 1:11pm

FrankieCoco1

lust said:

CONFIRMED: Tracklist for new 1999 deluxe release, 15th November.

CD1/LP1&2 (Original Album with 2019 Remaster)
01 1999
02 Little Red Corvette
03 Delirious
04 Let’s Pretend We’re Married
05 D.M.S.R.
06 Automatic
07 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
08 Free
09 Lady Cab Driver
10 All The Critics Love U In New York
11 International Lover

CD2/LP3&4 (Promo Mixes and B-sides, 2019 Remaster)
01 1999 (7″ Stereo Edit)
02 1999 (7″ Mono Promo-Only Edit)
03 Free (Promo Only Edit
04 How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore
05 Little Red Corvette (7″ Edit)
06 All The Critics Love U In New York (7″ Edit)
07 Lady Cab Driver (7″ Edit)
08 Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit)
09 Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix)
10 Delirious (7″ Edit)
11 Horny Toad
12 Automatic (7″ Edit)
13 Automatic (Video Version)
14 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Edit)
15 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Mono Promo Only Edit)
16 Irresistible Bitch
17 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Video Version)
18 D.M.S.R. (Edit)

CD3/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)

CD4/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)

CD5/LP9&10 (Live In Detroit at Masonic Temple Theater, Masonic Hall (Late Show) – November 30, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Little Red Corvette
04 Do Me, Baby
05 Head
06 Uptown
07 Lisa’s Keyboard Interlude
08 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 D.M.S.R.

DVD (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, – December 29, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Do Me, Baby
04 D.M.S.R.
05 Keyboard Interlude
06 Piano Improvisation
07 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
08 Lady Cab Driver
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 Head


My guess for leaving off Lust U Always be might this from Prince Vailt, “The song [Lust U Always] paraphrases some lyrics from Annie Ross's song Twisted”. And I’d think Extralovable’s lyrics were the reason it wasn’t included. Maybe they’ll be on the Target and Japanese bonus editions!
[Edited 9/10/19 13:12pm]
Reply #157 posted 09/10/19 1:14pm

feeluupp

Reply #158 posted 09/10/19 1:16pm

lust

[Snip - luv4u]
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #159 posted 09/10/19 1:18pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

lust said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Awesome, thanks

That’s just Funkenerry citing the same source.



So what. DrFunkenberry is a 'reliable' source. Someone asked for verification. Back on topic.

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Reply #160 posted 09/10/19 1:21pm

SoulAlive

Finally!! Prince's BEST album is getting the deluxe treatment.I'm ecstatic!

.

[Edited 9/10/19 13:22pm]

Reply #161 posted 09/10/19 1:23pm

Graycap23

Looks good, but I'm still not sure I understand why anyone would want or listen to the 45 single edits of any of these songs. Seems like a waste.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
Reply #162 posted 09/10/19 1:23pm

Strive

feeluupp said:



$250 for the LP set. Jeez, and here I'm thinking my personal limit for the CD set is $25.

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #163 posted 09/10/19 1:23pm

lust

luv4u said:
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prince.org administrators and moderators reserve the right to edit, relocate and/or remove any message, at any time, for any reason. Consider all editing decisions final. If you don't agree with a decision, you may discuss it with the moderator who made the judgment in private.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #164 posted 09/10/19 1:27pm

FrankieCoco1

luv4u said:

 



lust said:


TheEnglishGent said:

 


Awesome, thanks



That’s just Funkenerry citing the same source.



So what.  DrFunkenberry is a 'reliable' source.  Someone asked for verification. Back on topic.



It all comes from the one source at the moment, though! Yeah, it’s looking more likely it’ll be out this year but not quite confirmed full details yet.
Reply #165 posted 09/10/19 1:30pm

SoulAlive

Take my money! biggrin I'm ready to pre-order!!

Reply #166 posted 09/10/19 1:31pm

MIRvmn

Finally excited Great news biggrin
We are living in Orwell's 1984
Reply #167 posted 09/10/19 1:38pm

mynameisnotsusan

Most excited I've been for a release since I dont know when
Reply #168 posted 09/10/19 1:45pm

donnyenglish

Extraloveable is a pretty big omission, but I'm otherwise happy with this. Let's hope Extraloveable is included on a future release. Probably my favorite bootleg song of all-time except for Love Thy Will be Done (Great Gatsby Vesion), which I have never even heard, but I know is the holy grail in the vault.

Reply #169 posted 09/10/19 1:55pm

SoulAlive

yeah,it's a shame that "Extra Lovable" is not included.....but there's so much great stuff here,it's hard to complain.This set is fantastic!

Reply #170 posted 09/10/19 1:56pm

feeluupp

Officially announced from the Prince estate, the release is NOVEMBER 29

It appears the deluxe edition will have the same metallic cover as PR DELUXE.

On November 29th the Prince Estate, in partnership with Warner Records, will reissue Prince's landmark album 1999, remastered for the very first time, along with 35 previously unreleased tracks from Prince's legendary vault.

Considered one of the most iconic and influential double albums in rock history, #Prince1999 was released at a major turning point in the Prince's career. After years of struggling to break out of the R&B charts, he scored major crossover hits with "Litt...

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Reply #171 posted 09/10/19 1:57pm

sulls

geetee71 said:

sulls said:

Why the bullshit edits again? Didn't we complain enough about the PR Deluxe inclusion? Jeez...


.
I hang out at superdeluxeedition.com for news about physical releases from my non-Prince interests. Over there, collectors get super frothy over the inclusion of rare versions and complain when (on a release like this) the collection of edits/remixes is not exhaustive.
.
Ultimately, different people want different things and it’s not always possible to please everyone 100%.
.
Personally I think they’ve done pretty well here, with a good mix of released edits/versions, 2 discs of unreleased tracks/demos and two different live shows (rather than just including the audio for the same show which I’ve seen som3 sets do). This works for me biggrin
.


I just feel the edits are pointless unless you listen to 7 inch vinyl on a jukebox
"I like to watch."
Reply #172 posted 09/10/19 1:58pm

feeluupp

Guess they are replacing the purple color background for the metallic color just like they did with PR Deluxe.


No photo description available.

Reply #173 posted 09/10/19 2:00pm

Strive

I was bored so I figured I'd compile all the Princevault entries on the songs included on the vault discs.

Feel U Up was initially recorded in sequence following Irresistible Bitch in late 1981 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota.

Money Don't Grow On Trees is an unreleased song recorded in early 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota. It may have been written for an album by The Hookers (the group that evolved into Vanity 6), but there is no known recording other than Prince's.

Vagina is an unreleased track recorded in late 1981 or early 1982, at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota. If the song was recorded prior to January 1982, it is likely that it was recorded for The Hookers line-up of Jamie Shoop and Susan Moonsie, or as a demo recording by Prince only, but this is unverified. The song is not known to have been included on any configuration of the Vanity 6 album. Engineer David Z. Rivkin has described the track as "obscene".

Rearrange is an unreleased song recorded possibly in the fall of 1981, likely in his Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota. It is not known if the song was intended for his next album (which would turn out to be 1999). In 1988, however, the track was pulled out from the vault and remixed at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota. Again, it is not known what the intention behind this was.

Bold Generation is an unreleased song recorded on 11 January 1982 (the same day as Gigolos Get Lonely Too and You're All I Want) at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California, during recording sessions that yielded tracks for The Time's second album What Time Is It?.

Colleen is an unreleased instrumental recorded on 15 January 1982 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California during recording sessions for The Time's second album What Time Is It? (the day after International Lover and The Walk, and four days before Wild And Loose).

In a 2019 interview, engineer Peggy McCreary talked about the origin of the track's name, explaining that he had recorded it at the end of a session and McCreary asked what the track should be called on documentation. “He said, ‘What's your middle name?' I said ‘Colleen.' He said, ‘Name it “Colleen.” ' The song never got finished; it never had lyrics.”

International Lover Basic tracking took place on 14 January 1982 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (three days after Bold Generation and Gigolos Get Lonely Too, the same day as The Walk, and the day before Colleen), during sessions for The Time's second album What Time Is It?.

Turn It Up is an unreleased song recorded on 20 January 1982 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (the day after Wild And Loose, and eight days before resuming the Controversy Tour). The song was planned for inclusion on 1999, but was removed when Prince recorded Delirious, which Prince viewed as a similar track.

You're All I Want (a.k.a. U're All I Want or U're All Eye Want) is an unreleased song recorded on 11 January 1982 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (the same day as Bold Generation and Gigolos Get Lonely Too). Engineer Peggy McCreary talked to Jon Bream about the recording session, calling it a rockabilly song and a birthday gift to her.


Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) Basic tracking took place at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota, in mid-April 1982.

If It'll Make U Happy is an unreleased song recorded on 6 April 1982 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (one day after 3 x 2 = 6). The song was recorded for possible inclusion on 1999, but it is not known if it was included on any configurations of the album.

Basic tracking for How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore took place at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California on 26 April 1982 (the day after Free, two days before Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)).


Possessed Basic tracking took place on 15 May 1983 by Prince alone at his Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota and was overdubbed a week later. This version remains unreleased.


Delirious Basic tracking took place on 9 May 1982 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California (seven days after Automatic).

Purple Music is an unreleased song, recorded at some point in 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio, Chanhassen MN, USA. It is unknown if it was considered for inclusion on 1999 or any other project.

Yah, U Know is an unreleased song recorded at some point in 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota. It's not known if the track was intended for Prince's next album 1999, or any other project at the time of recording.

Moonbeam Levels is song recorded on 6 July 1982 (the day before Lady Cab Driver), at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California. It was released as the only previously-unreleased track on the first posthumous compilation of Prince's music, 4Ever.

No Call U is an unreleased song recorded in early 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota. The song is a fast rockabilly-style song in the vein of Jack U Off and Turn It Up. It is not known if it was intended for Prince's next album (which became 1999) or any other project.

Can't Stop This Feeling I Got Basic tracking took place in Spring-Summer 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota, along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years.

In 1982, Prince recorded an entirely new version of the track at his at Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota, titled Do Yourself A Favor; according to Pepé Willie, Prince recorded it from memory and had not heard it for years.

Don't Let Him Fool Ya is an unreleased song recorded in Spring-Summer 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota

Teacher, Teacher is an unreleased song first recorded in Summer 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota (along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years). In early 1986, Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman worked on the track further, at either Prince's Galpin Blvd Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota, or the Washington Avenue Warehouse in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, adding vocals and sitar. It was included as the eighth track on the late April 1986, configuration of the album Dream Factory. It was included as the seventh track on the first disc of the 3 June 1986 configuration, but was not included on the 18 July 1986 configuration.


no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #174 posted 09/10/19 2:00pm

Romeoblu

No Jerk Out?

Still the set on the whole looks great.
Reply #175 posted 09/10/19 2:00pm

Dandroppedadime

This looks great. Remastered original album ✔️
Edits and b-sides (standard fair and obligatory) ✔️
Vault tracks (2 disks!) excellent ✔️
Live audio and live dvd tick ✔️

I just hope Extralovable and Lust U Always are being held back for a quality outtake collection rather than legal or censorship issues.

So not a lot to moan about is there😝
[Edited 9/10/19 14:02pm]
Reply #176 posted 09/10/19 2:01pm

ThirdStrike

Strive said:

feeluupp said:



$250 for the LP set. Jeez, and here I'm thinking my personal limit for the CD set is $25.

Damn. $250 is steep. But TOTALLY worth it!! What's the cost for the CD set?

Reply #177 posted 09/10/19 2:02pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

Strive said:

I was bored so I figured I'd compile all the Princevault entries on the songs included on the vault discs.

Feel U Up was initially recorded in sequence following Irresistible Bitch in late 1981 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota.

Teacher, Teacher is an unreleased song first recorded in Summer 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota (along with several other tracks that would re-appear over the next several years). In early 1986, Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman worked on the track further, at either Prince's Galpin Blvd Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota, or the Washington Avenue Warehouse in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, adding vocals and sitar. It was included as the eighth track on the late April 1986, configuration of the album Dream Factory. It was included as the seventh track on the first disc of the 3 June 1986 configuration, but was not included on the 18 July 1986 configuration.



cool thank you

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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #178 posted 09/10/19 2:08pm

soladeo1

Has anyone ever heard TEACHER TEACHER??

Reply #179 posted 09/10/19 2:19pm

rdhull

soladeo1 said:

Has anyone ever heard TEACHER TEACHER??

Yeah. Its that Wendy n Lisa poppy vibe. Its on many a leggage.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #180 posted 09/10/19 2:22pm

Strive

Variety is claiming that the Detroit show we're getting is actually the second show, which is uncirculating, while the current bootleg is from the first show.

The Detroit concert is actually the second the band played that night; a bootleg from the same date is from the evening’s earlier show.

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/prince-1999-album-deluxe-reissue-november-1203331220/

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #181 posted 09/10/19 2:22pm

SoulAlive

feeluupp said:

Guess they are replacing the purple color background for the metallic color just like they did with PR Deluxe.


No photo description available.

I like it

Reply #182 posted 09/10/19 2:23pm

Missmusicluver72

SoulAlive said:

yeah,it's a shame that "Extra Lovable" is not included.....but there's so much great stuff here,it's hard to complain.This set is fantastic!

Agreed. Hopefully Extra Lovable can be added to some other release down the road. This is still exciting news though. cool

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The only Love there is, is the Love We Make~
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Reply #183 posted 09/10/19 2:23pm

IstenSzek

well well well, yah, u know.

I'm actually quite excited about the remaster itself althought i really shouldn't be, probably lol

anywho. missing the obvious tracks, for the obvious reasons. shame, really neutral

but good sign is that "vagina" is included so we're assured that, just like "we can fuck" etc, the
issue is not naughty lyrics or ott sexuality. the issue is the rape lyrics.

and i'm guessing there won't be many more songs in the vault mentioning rape, so we should be
good to go on most other tracks.

who knows, maybe this will entice some people to let go of their pristine versions of these tracks
in the future. although, the last ones we have are pretty decent quality already, aren't they?

excited about the tracks i've never ever heard before cool

only thing i had hoped was that there would be a long long LONG version of Irresistible Bitch on
it.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #184 posted 09/10/19 2:25pm

rdhull

The stars look like windshield raindrops mad

feeluupp said:

Guess they are replacing the purple color background for the metallic color just like they did with PR Deluxe.


No photo description available.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #185 posted 09/10/19 2:27pm

IstenSzek

rdhull said:

The stars look like windshield raindrops mad

feeluupp said:

Guess they are replacing the purple color background for the metallic color just like they did with PR Deluxe.


No photo description available.


i don't like it when they mess with the original artwork. i considered collecting all the remasters
on cd and not just as digitals, but when i was looking at PR Deluxe in the store again, last week,
i couldn't get myself to buy it. digipack and that silver/metal 'design', nah.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #186 posted 09/10/19 2:28pm

Wolfie87

feeluupp said:

Guess they are replacing the purple color background for the metallic color just like they did with PR Deluxe.


 


 



No photo description available.



[Bait snip - luv4u]
Reply #187 posted 09/10/19 2:29pm

feeluupp

That's Rod.

Wolfie87 said:

feeluupp said:

Guess they are replacing the purple color background for the metallic color just like they did with PR Deluxe.


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[Bait snip - luv4u]

Reply #188 posted 09/10/19 2:35pm

eyewishuheaven

My god... it's full of stuff. biggrin

Happy to see I'll get the liner notes in the cd set this time. I wish they wouldn't dick around with the cover art, but I'm not gonna bitch; this is looking like a great set.

[EDIT: And so SOON, after 'Originals'! They need to be applauded for that. Keep ramping up that schedule!!!]

[Edited 9/10/19 14:37pm]

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Reply #189 posted 09/10/19 2:38pm

SquirrelMeat

With 'Rearrange' and 'Can't Stop The Feelin I Got" being recorded in the 1999 era,, and both being worked on in 89/89, I wonder if we've already heard some of 'Rearrange' at the end of the released 'Can't Stop'?

Hey, pardon me for living,
But this is my world,
You can't make me change
Maybe we all got to rearrange (rearrange)
Our brains (our brains)
Yeah, only we can change the world
Only we can change the world
Only we can change the world
.
Reply #190 posted 09/10/19 2:42pm

SoulAlive

eyewishuheaven said:


[EDIT: And so SOON, after 'Originals'! They need to be applauded for that. Keep ramping up that schedule!!!]

I agree! There's no need to be slow with these releases.Give us several of these sets a year! biggrin I applaud them for releasing this set so soon after Originals.

Reply #191 posted 09/10/19 2:47pm

Ramzoo

feeluupp said:




Via Casey Rain aka Militant wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axtKIsmhV5k



*******************


It's now official !!!! [luv4u]

[Pre-order date unknown at this time. Watch for updates - luv4u]

https://www.musictap.com/...QsLcMPwGRE

Tracklisting included below!!


https://funkatopia.com/funk-news/1999-deluxe-reissue/

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Prince Facebook page Announcement (including artwork): https://www.facebook.com/...7763136664

Covers:

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New artwork:

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Former album artwork:

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On November 15, Warner Brothers Music will return to 1999 with a Super Deluxe package that will be reissued on 5CD/1DVD and 10LP/1DVD box sets. Both sets will feature new remastering for the classic album, as well as deliver a collection of vault tracks, promo mixes and B-sides, and a previously unreleased live performance set from a Detroit show on November 30, 1982. The DVD will provide video for his previously unreleased live set at The Summit in Houston, TX on December 29, 1982. The boxes are rounded out with a stuffed booklet of new liner notes, detailed Vault Tracks notes, rare photos, and copies of the lyrics in handwritten form.

Warner Brothers Records will also release 4LP and 2CD versions of 1999 that include the original album, and the promo mixes and B-sides, all with 2019 remaster.

1999 (Super Deluxe Box – 5CD/1DVD; 10LP/1DVD) – Prince


CD1/LP1&2 (Original Album with 2019 Remaster)
01 1999
02 Little Red Corvette
03 Delirious
04 Let’s Pretend We’re Married
05 D.M.S.R.
06 Automatic
07 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
08 Free
09 Lady Cab Driver
10 All The Critics Love U In New York
11 International Lover



CD2/LP3&4 (Promo Mixes and B-sides, 2019 Remaster)
01 1999 (7″ Stereo Edit)
02 1999 (7″ Mono Promo-Only Edit)
03 Free (Promo Only Edit
04 How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore
05 Little Red Corvette (7″ Edit)
06 All The Critics Love U In New York (7″ Edit)
07 Lady Cab Driver (7″ Edit)
08 Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit)
09 Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix)
10 Delirious (7″ Edit)
11 Horny Toad
12 Automatic (7″ Edit)
13 Automatic (Video Version)
14 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Edit)
15 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7″ Mono Promo Only Edit)
16 Irresistible Bitch
17 Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Video Version)
18 D.M.S.R. (Edit)



CD3/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)



CD4/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)



CD5/LP9&10 (Live In Detroit at Masonic Temple Theater, Masonic Hall (Late Show) – November 30, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Little Red Corvette
04 Do Me, Baby
05 Head
06 Uptown
07 Lisa’s Keyboard Interlude
08 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 D.M.S.R.



DVD (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, – December 29, 1982, Previously Unreleased)
01 Controversy
02 Let’s Work
03 Do Me, Baby
04 D.M.S.R.
05 Keyboard Interlude
06 Piano Improvisation
07 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?
08 Lady Cab Driver
09 Automatic
10 International Lover
11 1999
12 Head

Thanks 2 The Purple Politicians who gave first the info.

https://www.youtube.com/w...DpyU57bysM

Reply #192 posted 09/10/19 2:49pm

SoulAlive

I think I'm gonna stick with the CD set.....but I am tempted to get the vinyl one,too nuts decisions,decisions,lol

Strive said:


$250 for the LP set.

Reply #193 posted 09/10/19 2:51pm

Graycap23

Finally.............something I'll spend my $$ on.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
Reply #194 posted 09/10/19 2:52pm

ThirdStrike

SoulAlive said:

I think I'm gonna stick with the CD set.....but I am tempted to get the vinyl one,too nuts decisions,decisions,lol

Strive said:


$250 for the LP set.

Yeah, I'll most likely get the vinyl too. I'll just start stashing $$ here and there until November 29th....wink

Reply #195 posted 09/10/19 2:54pm

soladeo1

Wonder what this is???


11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)

Reply #196 posted 09/10/19 2:55pm

williamb610

Ha! Awesome...

1 of the Super Deluxe 5 CD/DVD please!!

(Smacking gum...)

Reply #197 posted 09/10/19 2:56pm

rdhull

rehearsals

soladeo1 said:

Wonder what this is???


11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #198 posted 09/10/19 3:03pm

siim

Have those tracks been circulating before?
Can anyone describe them a bit... thanks smile

03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen

But, yeah, I could do with less rockabilly-tracks on unreleased-CDs. I'm not a big fan of these, and the already released ones are the best anyway

Reply #199 posted 09/10/19 3:05pm

ian

Surprised it is such a large set, you'd think that would make it really risky from a commercial point of view. Like you could easily lose the 7 inch edits that everyone hates, maybe drop some of the more widely available songs that are already "out there" officially or not, and maybe just include one live performance rather than two, and you'd have a very compelling and affordable 3x CD set.

Not that I'm complaining! I guess it makes most sense to target the hardcore fans with expansive and expensive sets. Keep it coming I say.

Reply #200 posted 09/10/19 3:05pm

RODSERLING

pricetag said:

 



RODSERLING said:


pricetag said:
Your logic: what happened in the past MUST happen in the future. Do you even know how dumb this sounds? Answer this question first before you do anything else. I can already tell you like to deflect.

Hey, cut the chitchat and let s make a deal : if 1999 deluxe is released this year, I will disappear from the org eternally. . If it's not released this year, you go. . Deal? .

This here. It's just beautiful. You've got a deal.



Lol too Bad you didn't want to make the deal at the time !
.
By the way, this is really good news and I m glad I was wrong (for once!)
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Also, some people are still not happy with the tracklist..Extralovable is on hit and run 2 by the way
Reply #201 posted 09/10/19 3:07pm

jstar69

Fabulous looking set, naturally surprised that there’s no Extra Loveble or lust u always, but I’m wondering if that was strategic. I’m wondering if it will get a RSD 12 release, or standalone non album single release, Its non inclusion & separate release may prevent any significant backlash or boybotting against the main set. Just a thought.
Reply #202 posted 09/10/19 3:10pm

sulls

So, are Vagina and Possessed the ‘sexually daring’ tracks?
"I like to watch."
Reply #203 posted 09/10/19 3:13pm

RODSERLING

Romeoblu said:

No Jerk Out?

Still the set on the whole looks great.

Originals 2
Reply #204 posted 09/10/19 3:15pm

djThunderfunk

SleezyG said:

ThirdStrike said:

Aren't these the two songs which include the "rape" reference? Probably the reason why they are not included...


Depending on the source, just drop the vocals at that part. It's not rocket science.

Unless it is, and that's not possible. It's just silly in this day and age to not clean that up if you can.


Fuck that! No censorship. Just put it out.

The disparity between audience & critics reviews of Chappelle's new special proves the audience can handle it even if the critics (and twitter) can't.


Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #205 posted 09/10/19 3:15pm

jfenster

how long before the bootleggers release some of those songs ???

Reply #206 posted 09/10/19 3:20pm

jfenster

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl

Reply #207 posted 09/10/19 3:21pm

rdhull

jfenster said:

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl

$69?!!

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #208 posted 09/10/19 3:22pm

MIRvmn

siim said:

 


 


Have those tracks been circulating before?
Can anyone describe them a bit... thanks smile 

03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen  

But, yeah, I could do with less rockabilly-tracks on unreleased-CDs. I'm not a big fan of these, and the already released ones are the best anyway


Those tracks are new to me smile I wonder about the promo only edits how different they are
We are living in Orwell's 1984
Reply #209 posted 09/10/19 3:22pm

djThunderfunk

sulls said:

While I'm excited for this release, i find it MADDENING that Extraloveable and Lust U Always are not included. Goddammit... neutral


Agreed! I cannot wait for this and will happily buy it.

But....

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #210 posted 09/10/19 3:30pm

Graycap23

rdhull said:

jfenster said:

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl

$69?!!

For $5 cd's? Lol.........they are tripping.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
Reply #211 posted 09/10/19 3:31pm

rdhull

Im happy to get that dvd thats the seoncd show. Its amazing we finally get an 'official' 1999-era concert release. I've always craved this era concert dvd because it was not the bloated Purple Rain tour. This 1999 tour is where he was on the razors edge of becoming a legend and the audience knew it. The futuristic stage and lighting? Oh man.

Taxi! Taxi!

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #212 posted 09/10/19 3:33pm

rdhull

Graycap23 said:

rdhull said:

$69?!!

For $5 cd's? Lol.........they are tripping.

and dvd but still..thats probably suggested retail and will go for 40-50...if not..thats kind of high but I would pay 100 for it to have it

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #213 posted 09/10/19 3:34pm

RODSERLING

Graycap23 said:

 



rdhull said:


 



jfenster said:


amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl



$69?!!



For $5 cd's? Lol.....they are tripping. 



Prices when just announced are always higher. It will come down eventually to 40 dollars I think. It s just 2 cd more than PR deluxe, which cost 25 dollars
Reply #214 posted 09/10/19 3:34pm

rdhull

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:

This here. It's just beautiful. You've got a deal.

Lol too Bad you didn't want to make the deal at the time ! .

So this is how youre going to worm your way out of it? Figures.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #215 posted 09/10/19 3:35pm

djThunderfunk

Strive said:

Variety is claiming that the Detroit show we're getting is actually the second show, which is uncirculating, while the current bootleg is from the first show.

The Detroit concert is actually the second the band played that night; a bootleg from the same date is from the evening’s earlier show.

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/prince-1999-album-deluxe-reissue-november-1203331220/


Sweeeeeet!!

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #216 posted 09/10/19 3:36pm

Apollo85

soladeo1 said:

Has anyone ever heard TEACHER TEACHER??

Yup! My question is has anyone heard VAGINA, COLLEEN, REARRANGE, BOLD GENERATION, MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES, or YOU'RE ALL I WANT? eyepop

Reply #217 posted 09/10/19 3:37pm

IstenSzek

and a (2019 remaster) for Moonbeam Levels.

woot!

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #218 posted 09/10/19 3:39pm

djThunderfunk

jfenster said:

how long before the bootleggers release some of those songs ???


cool

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #219 posted 09/10/19 3:39pm

jfenster

RODSERLING said:

Graycap23 said:

For $5 cd's? Lol.........they are tripping.

Prices when just announced are always higher. It will come down eventually to 40 dollars I think. It s just 2 cd more than PR deluxe, which cost 25 dollars

abbey road is 3 cds and $89 ...

Reply #220 posted 09/10/19 3:40pm

djThunderfunk

jfenster said:

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl


Purple Rain drastically dropped in price from the announcement to the release. It'll probably happen here too. I'd guess $35ish for the CDs.


Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #221 posted 09/10/19 3:40pm

rdhull

IstenSzek said:

and a (2019 remaster) for Moonbeam Levels.

woot!

Yeah, so maybe they (estate etc.) saw the criticism over the previous official release and remedied the issue with the song. However, while most will be watching the dvd, 30 of the org will be on their special headphones like listening for a click when breaking into a safe, scrutinizing the song lol

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #222 posted 09/10/19 3:41pm

djThunderfunk

IstenSzek said:

and a (2019 remaster) for Moonbeam Levels.

woot!


lol I noticed that, too. We knew the source was suspect on that one...

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #223 posted 09/10/19 3:42pm

SoulAlive

rdhull said:

 



RODSERLING said:


pricetag said:

 


This here. It's just beautiful. You've got a deal.



Lol too Bad you didn't want to make the deal at the time ! .

So this is how youre going to worm your way out of it? Figures.




lol
Reply #224 posted 09/10/19 3:48pm

ChocolateBox3121


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I'm glad they kept Denise's original artwork..Prince(r.i.p.) & Denise(r.i.p.) would be proud.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #225 posted 09/10/19 4:00pm

HatrinaHaterwitz

rdhull said:

Graycap23 said:

For $5 cd's? Lol.........they are tripping.

and dvd but still..thats probably suggested retail and will go for 40-50...if not..thats kind of high but I would pay 100 for it to have it

Amazon isn't showing that it includes the DVD. pout

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
Reply #226 posted 09/10/19 4:03pm

jfenster

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

rdhull said:

and dvd but still..thats probably suggested retail and will go for 40-50...if not..thats kind of high but I would pay 100 for it to have it

Amazon isn't showing that it includes the DVD. pout

look at botton of listing...6th disc is dvd

Reply #227 posted 09/10/19 4:09pm

grantevans

jfenster said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Amazon isn't showing that it includes the DVD. pout

look at botton of listing...6th disc is dvd

Can somebody please send me a link to the amazon listing. I am searching amazon.com from australia and its not shpwing up. I can only find the mp3 edition.

Reply #228 posted 09/10/19 4:10pm

rdhull

jfenster said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Amazon isn't showing that it includes the DVD. pout

look at botton of listing...6th disc is dvd

phew! lol

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #229 posted 09/10/19 4:11pm

OnlyNDaUsa

I hope it is not on the 29th! I will be out of town!

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #230 posted 09/10/19 4:21pm

jstar69

Well no doubt the first question for the key people that compiled the tracklist (I.e. estate et al) will be

“What happened to Lust U Always, and Extra Loveable? The latter arguably Princes most iconic and wanted bootlegged track”

Keen to hear the actual reason behind these high profile non inclusions.
Reply #231 posted 09/10/19 4:21pm

dsimp8

feeluupp said:

Ok this is great BUT... It is absolutely unexcuseable to NOT include EXTRALOVEABLE on the 1999 Deluxe.

But I guess the estate doesn't want any drama with the RAPE lyrics in this day and age especially with the Me Too movement going on.

I agree but my thought is they could have started a fade at 5:45

Reply #232 posted 09/10/19 4:26pm

rdhull

jstar69 said:

Well no doubt the first question for the key people that compiled the tracklist (I.e. estate et al) will be “What happened to Lust U Always, and Extra Loveable? The latter arguably Princes most iconic and wanted bootlegged track” Keen to hear the actual reason behind these high profile non inclusions.

No doubt due to the rape lyrics. It makes sense not to add those songs regardless of how beloved they are. That doesnt take away from the grandeur of this release. So there it is. Nobody else has to make 789 posts comments about those two songs that arent on the set.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #233 posted 09/10/19 4:26pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Amazon has pre-orders: 10 LPs 1DVD $249.98

5CD 1DVD $69.98

2CD $24.98 (the album and the edits)

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #234 posted 09/10/19 4:27pm

rdhull

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2CD $24.98 (the album and the edits)

lol lol lol

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #235 posted 09/10/19 4:28pm

VaultCurator


[Off topic snip - luv4u]

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #236 posted 09/10/19 4:36pm

VaultCurator

rdhull said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2CD $24.98 (the album and the edits)

lol lol lol

.

It would have been nice for the casuals to get the album and the live gig at least.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #237 posted 09/10/19 4:37pm

jstar69

rdhull said:

 



jstar69 said:


Well no doubt the first question for the key people that compiled the tracklist (I.e. estate et al) will be “What happened to Lust U Always, and Extra Loveable? The latter arguably Princes most iconic and wanted bootlegged track” Keen to hear the actual reason behind these high profile non inclusions.

No doubt due to the rape lyrics. It makes sense not to add those songs regardless of how beloved they are. That doesnt take away from the grandeur of this release. So there it is. Nobody else has to make 789 posts comments about those two songs that arent on the set. 



Completely agree that it doesn’t take away from this epic release. you don’t think these 2 tracks we’ll ever receive an official release? Someone commented early that they were being saved for a standalone Vault release. But I’m hoping for a stand-alone single release that doesn’t link the tracks directly to this new album release. That way people can choose whether to purchase a track with rape lyrics or not.
Reply #238 posted 09/10/19 4:38pm

feeluupp

jstar69 said:

rdhull said:

No doubt due to the rape lyrics. It makes sense not to add those songs regardless of how beloved they are. That doesnt take away from the grandeur of this release. So there it is. Nobody else has to make 789 posts comments about those two songs that arent on the set.

Completely agree that it doesn’t take away from this epic release. you don’t think these 2 tracks we’ll ever receive an official release? Someone commented early that they were being saved for a standalone Vault release. But I’m hoping for a stand-alone single release that doesn’t link the tracks directly to this new album release. That way people can choose whether to purchase a track with rape lyrics or not.

With the moral politics going on these days, I doubt those songs will be released.

Reply #239 posted 09/10/19 4:40pm

dsimp8

Would have been perfect to have the Super Deluxe price at $199.99

Reply #240 posted 09/10/19 4:41pm

ThirdStrike

jfenster said:

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl



I can’t find it on a Amazon yet for pre-order Link please?
Reply #241 posted 09/10/19 4:41pm

OnlyNDaUsa

sulls said:

So, are Vagina and Possessed the ‘sexually daring’ tracks?

if it is the one with Pussy getting wet and putting up a fuss... but wait? They said it was from 82?

so it is not known!?

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #242 posted 09/10/19 4:44pm

OnlyNDaUsa

ThirdStrike said:

jfenster said:

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl

I can’t find it on a Amazon yet for pre-order Link please?

which one? here is the CD super... I searched for "prince 1999 deluxe"

https://www.amazon.com/dp...amp;sr=8-3

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #243 posted 09/10/19 4:46pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Purchased 1 time.
You purchased this item on September 10, 2019.

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #244 posted 09/10/19 4:46pm

feeluupp

What happened to The Violet Reality saying they heard from a source Jerk Out was going to be on the 1999 Deluxe?

Guess they decided not to include that..

Reply #245 posted 09/10/19 4:47pm

databank

Now we're talking!! biggrin

I haven't checked but it seems they've included almost all the single atlt. mixes, edits and even the video versions, which is something I deplored they hadn't done with PR Deluxe. On a first glance one is still missing, though, i.e. the 12'' version of 1999, incorrectly dubbed "Album Version" but, of course, not fading into LRC (it's not listed on Princevault BTW, but it exists, it's listed on my site and it even, sadly, replaced the real album version on the streamin platforms versions of the album). This omission is sad, but there's great progress nonetheless.

The outtakes will be contemporary mixes, as with most songs on Originals but if, this time, there is no other alteration whatsoever, and if the engineer really attempted to reproduce the original mixes (when available) and respects the overall sound Prince had back then, I can live with it given that most fans understandably prefer better sounding vault mixes than cassette mixdowns as on PR Deluxe. It's be nice to one day make those cassette mixdowns available digitally as well, but that's a wish for another decade I guess.

The DVD will be interesting because I wonder if it's multi-angle, given that all the pro-shot shows we have from this era is one angle. Or was that the show filmed for the Second Coming film? (too lazy to check now).

As for the choices of outtakes, I'm perfectly happy with it, given that it's not supposed to be a "comprehensive studio sessions" boxset, I don't really care that they kept this or omitted that as long as we get 2 CD's of previously unreleased music.

So as far as I'm concerned, this may not be entirely perfect, but it sounds truly exciting.

[Edited 9/10/19 16:48pm]

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #246 posted 09/10/19 4:48pm

rdhull

jstar69 said:

rdhull said:

No doubt due to the rape lyrics. It makes sense not to add those songs regardless of how beloved they are. That doesnt take away from the grandeur of this release. So there it is. Nobody else has to make 789 posts comments about those two songs that arent on the set.

Completely agree that it doesn’t take away from this epic release. you don’t think these 2 tracks we’ll ever receive an official release? Someone commented early that they were being saved for a standalone Vault release. But I’m hoping for a stand-alone single release that doesn’t link the tracks directly to this new album release. That way people can choose whether to purchase a track with rape lyrics or not.

I cant see the song being released with those lyrics. Not that we arent grown-ups to understand his meaning of being so crazily lustful etc but maybe because the powers that be may think it would tarnish his legacy. Yes, I know he did Sister and that should be ribald enough to be worrisome but in the past decade, the rape lyrics seem to have been discussed ad naseum making it more controversial than it needs to be, putting it on a socially aware pedastal warning more than it needs to be. And in this current culture? Sheeit, good luck with that being released with the original lyrics. I can 'maybe..'maybe' see what you stated hearing about a stand alone vault release with warts and all as a testament to the mans whole body of work and how far he was willing to almost go early in his career (I say almost because he never did release the song but did release Sister..maybe he felt Sister was enough for him to get him the envelope to push as enough for the publics eye) but hey..even Guns N Roses didnt include their n-word controversial One In A Million to their superdeluxe release last year.

.

[Edited 9/10/19 16:58pm]

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #247 posted 09/10/19 4:56pm

VaultCurator

feeluupp said:

jstar69 said:

rdhull said: Completely agree that it doesn’t take away from this epic release. you don’t think these 2 tracks we’ll ever receive an official release? Someone commented early that they were being saved for a standalone Vault release. But I’m hoping for a stand-alone single release that doesn’t link the tracks directly to this new album release. That way people can choose whether to purchase a track with rape lyrics or not.

With the moral politics going on these days, I doubt those songs will be released.

.

For any record company this wouldn't be worth the headache. As much as I hate the fact that these songs are too hot for comercial release, I actually don't blame Warner Bros for their decision. It would have been nice for them to have had the balls to release it, but it's not their fault.

.

I guess the best we can hope for now is a crystal clear leak. Given how long these songs have already been in circulation I doubt a good quality upgrade is likely. sad

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #248 posted 09/10/19 5:00pm

VaultCurator

databank said:

I haven't checked but it seems they've included almost all the single atlt. mixes, edits and even the video versions, which is something I deplored they hadn't done with PR Deluxe.

.

Oh! It's you, is it? lol wink

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #249 posted 09/10/19 5:14pm

PennyPurple

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Purchased 1 time.
You purchased this item on September 10, 2019.

$70 isn't a bad price for the disc's.

Reply #250 posted 09/10/19 5:16pm

jstar69

rdhull said:

jstar69 said:

rdhull said: Completely agree that it doesn’t take away from this epic release. you don’t think these 2 tracks we’ll ever receive an official release? Someone commented early that they were being saved for a standalone Vault release. But I’m hoping for a stand-alone single release that doesn’t link the tracks directly to this new album release. That way people can choose whether to purchase a track with rape lyrics or not.

I cant see the song being released with those lyrics. Not that we arent grown-ups to understand his meaning of being so crazily lustful etc but maybe because the powers that be may think it would tarnish his legacy. Yes, I know he did Sister and that should be ribald enough to be worrisome but in the past decade, the rape lyrics seem to have been discussed ad naseum making it more controversial than it needs to be, putting it on a socially aware pedastal warning more than it needs to be. And in this current culture? Sheeit, good luck with that being released with the original lyrics. I can 'maybe..'maybe' see what you stated hearing about a stand alone vault release with warts and all as a testament to the mans whole body of work and how far he was willing to almost go early in his career (I say almost because he never did release the song but did release Sister..maybe he felt Sister was enough for him to get him the envelope to push as enough for the publics eye) but hey..even Guns N Roses didnt include their n-word controversial One In A Million to their superdeluxe release last year.

.

[Edited 9/10/19 16:58pm]

I agree. But surely a warning a la 'La La La He He Hee' - instead of Highly Explosive, It could say Highly Offensive. Now I am Kidding, but for 2 such great tracks to not see the light of day (officially) its a bit sad! But have no doubt, I will eventually get over it (when they leak in perfect quality). Someone also did mention to fade it our near the 6 minute mark, which to be honest, would be better than nothing.

Reply #251 posted 09/10/19 5:20pm

SoulAlive

I just pre-ordered my copy on Amazon! biggrin the CD version
Reply #252 posted 09/10/19 5:20pm

sulls

dsimp8 said:

feeluupp said:

Ok this is great BUT... It is absolutely unexcuseable to NOT include EXTRALOVEABLE on the 1999 Deluxe.

But I guess the estate doesn't want any drama with the RAPE lyrics in this day and age especially with the Me Too movement going on.

I agree but my thought is they could have started a fade at 5:45

NO FADE!

"I like to watch."
Reply #253 posted 09/10/19 5:21pm

sulls

OnlyNDaUsa said:

sulls said:

So, are Vagina and Possessed the ‘sexually daring’ tracks?

if it is the one with Pussy getting wet and putting up a fuss... but wait? They said it was from 82?

so it is not known!?

I think that's the one. It BETTER be...

"I like to watch."
Reply #254 posted 09/10/19 5:26pm

SoulAlive

I am thrilled about this release! This is gonna be wonderful.
Reply #255 posted 09/10/19 5:27pm

luv4u

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Looking forward to this.

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Reply #256 posted 09/10/19 5:28pm

jstar69

sulls said:

 



dsimp8 said:


 



feeluupp said:


Ok this is great BUT... It is absolutely unexcuseable to NOT include EXTRALOVEABLE on the 1999 Deluxe.


 


 


 


 


But I guess the estate doesn't want any drama with the RAPE lyrics in this day and age especially with the Me Too movement going on.



 


 


I agree but my thought is they could have started a fade at 5:45



NO FADE!


Agree, but isn’t a Studio quality Fade better than no studio release at all? Prince was all about controversy and pushing the envelope back then. Why not release something that reflects the time period it’s from. It would certainly put him back in the news albeit for highly controversial reasons. OK that’s my last comment on the topic(I think)
Reply #257 posted 09/10/19 5:29pm

soladeo1

This is going to be epic.

How many else of you out there consider 1999
to be your Favorite Prince album??!!
Reply #258 posted 09/10/19 5:32pm

bluefish

I'm listening to the original album on my laptop as I type this. SO EXCITED!!!

‎https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvmsrcg1qD_wVuS4qnopmQg
Reply #259 posted 09/10/19 5:35pm

sulls

djThunderfunk said:

IstenSzek said:

and a (2019 remaster) for Moonbeam Levels.

woot!


lol I noticed that, too. We knew the source was suspect on that one...

Hopefully this release will be the one with the fade out, fade back in ending excited excited

"I like to watch."
Reply #260 posted 09/10/19 5:35pm

soladeo1

😈

Don’t worry...I don’t hurt u....

...I only want you to have some fun...”
Reply #261 posted 09/10/19 5:36pm

Freek99999

Woww... so thrilled!

Of course disc 2 is unlistenable with all the boring edits. Who would want to listen to an edit of 1999 two times in a row, one in stereo one in mono? same for Let's Pretend... Anyone besides DataBank? smile

I will create my own disc 2, with the b-sides, LRC dance mix and outtakes omitted from the box.

Reply #262 posted 09/10/19 5:38pm

SoulAlive

soladeo1 said:

This is going to be epic.

How many else of you out there consider 1999
to be your Favorite Prince album??!!


It is my favorite Prince album smile
Reply #263 posted 09/10/19 5:45pm

VaultCurator

jstar69 said:

Agree, but isn’t a Studio quality Fade better than no studio release at all? Prince was all about controversy and pushing the envelope back then. Why not release something that reflects the time period it’s from. It would certainly put him back in the news albeit for highly controversial reasons. OK that’s my last comment on the topic(I think)

.

I say just drop the vocal between 6:00 and 6:30…
.
Everybody, Brownmark say (Ooh!) (Everybody else sing it)
Brownmark, Brownmark say (Ooh ooh!) (Extra lovable)
I can't hear U, say (Ooh!)
This ain't just about your body, baby
It's about your mind (Ooh ooh!)
Come on and take the drop, baby
And spare some time (Ooh!)
– drop vocal –
I'm on the verge of r__e
I don't think U heard me (Ooh ooh!)
I'm on the verge of r__e
I'm on the..
I'm sorry, but I'm just gonna have 2 r__e U
Now are U going 2 get into the tub or do I have 2 drag U?
Don't make me drag U
I can be very cruel
– vocal up –
Yeah!
If U don't stop the groove
Extra lovable beat tell your body what 2 do (Huh!)

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #264 posted 09/10/19 5:49pm

ChocolateBox3121

soladeo1 said:

This is going to be epic. How many else of you out there consider 1999 to be your Favorite Prince album??!!

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[Edited 9/10/19 17:51pm]

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #265 posted 09/10/19 6:11pm

HatrinaHaterwitz

jfenster said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Amazon isn't showing that it includes the DVD. pout

look at botton of listing...6th disc is dvd

Oh okay! Thanks!

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
Reply #266 posted 09/10/19 6:15pm

Strive

$70 is alot to ask when Purple Rain Deluxe was $25. Nearly three times the price for an additional From The Vault disc and an uncirculating soundboard.

I hope that's the MSRP and it will drop to something more reasonable near launch.

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #267 posted 09/10/19 6:15pm

SoulAlive

Everyone...go on Amazon and pre-order this.Let’s make this a big seller so we can get more sets like these!
Reply #268 posted 09/10/19 6:16pm

rdhull

soladeo1 said:

😈 Don’t worry...I don’t hurt u.... ...I only want you to have some fun...”

Do you really think he says "don't"?

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #269 posted 09/10/19 6:17pm

SoulAlive

Strive said:

$70 is alot to ask when Purple Rain Deluxe was $25. Nearly three times the price for an additional From The Vault disc and an uncirculating soundboard. 

I hope that's the MSRP and it will drop to something more reasonable near launch. 



The price will drop as it gets closer to release date.Amazon will give us the lower price,even if you pre-order it now (as I have done).
Reply #270 posted 09/10/19 6:19pm

HatrinaHaterwitz

We're FINALLY getting a proper Deluxe set!heart Now I'm excited.

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
Reply #271 posted 09/10/19 6:20pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Liner notes by Duane Tudahl!

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #272 posted 09/10/19 6:23pm

Strive

SoulAlive said:

Strive said:

$70 is alot to ask when Purple Rain Deluxe was $25. Nearly three times the price for an additional From The Vault disc and an uncirculating soundboard.

I hope that's the MSRP and it will drop to something more reasonable near launch.

The price will drop as it gets closer to release date.Amazon will give us the lower price,even if you pre-order it now (as I have done).

I'm hoping but the digital edition is listed at $50 so I doubt there's going to be a big drop before release.


https://smile.amazon.com/1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince/dp/B07XJRB535

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #273 posted 09/10/19 6:54pm

sulls

ChocolateBox3121 said:

 



soladeo1 said:


This is going to be epic. How many else of you out there consider 1999 to be your Favorite Prince album??!!

fp4apg.jpg


 

[Edited 9/10/19 17:51pm]




It was my FIRST Prince album and pulled me into the Prince orbit
"I like to watch."
Reply #274 posted 09/10/19 7:07pm

Moonbeam

Couldn’t be happier with this news as it is a worthy celebration of my favorite album of all time. I must have bought 30+ copies of 1999 over the years and will gladly add to that.
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
Reply #275 posted 09/10/19 7:52pm

feeluupp

DISC 1
1
1999 (2019 Remaster)
6.14
2
Little Red Corvette (2019 Remaster)
5.04
3
Delirious (2019 Remaster)
4.00
4
Let's Pretend We're Married (2019 Remaster)
7.20
5
D.M.S.R. (2019 Remaster)
8.18
6
Automatic (2019 Remaster)
9.26
7
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) [2019 Remaster]
4.02
8
Free (2019 Remaster)
5.07
9
Lady Cab Driver (2019 Remaster)
8.17
10
All The Critics Love U In New York (2019 Remaster)
5.58
11
International Lover (2019 Remaster)
6.38
DISC 2
1
1999 (7" Stereo Edit) [2019 Remaster]
3.37
2
1999 (7" Mono Promo-Only Edit) [2019 Remaster]
3.35
3
Free (Promo Only Edit) [2019 Remaster]
4.36
4
How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore (2019 Remaster)
3.55
5
Little Red Corvette (7" Edit) [2019 Remaster]
3.08
6
All The Critics Love U In New York (7" Edit) [2019 Remaster]
3.16
7
Lady Cab Driver (7" Edit) [2019 Remaster]
5.06
8
Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit) [2019 Remaster]
4.34
9
Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix) [2019 Remaster]
8.31
10
Delirious (7" Edit) [2019 Remaster]
2.39
11
Horny Toad (2019 Remaster)
2.15
12
Automatic (7" Edit) [2019 Remaster]
3.40
13
Automatic (Video Version) [2019 Remaster]
8.21
14
Let's Pretend We're Married (7" Edit) [2019 Remaster]
3.45
15
Let's Pretend We're Married (7" Mono Promo Only Edit) [2019 Remaster]
3.44
16
Irresistible Bitch (2019 Remaster)
4.14
17
Let's Pretend We're Married (Video Version) [2019 Remaster]
4.03
18
D.M.S.R. (Edit) [2019 Remaster]
5.06
DISC 3
1
Feel U Up
6.42
2
Irresistible Bitch
4.39
3
Money Don't Grow On Trees
4.19
4
Vagina
3.28
5
Rearrange
6.11
6
Bold Generation
5.54
7
Colleen
5.30
8
International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
7.20
9
Turn It Up
5.23
10
You're All I Want
3.00
11
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
4.00
12
If It'll Make U Happy
4.12
13
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)
6.11
DISC 4
1
Possessed (1982 Version)
8.47
2
Delirious (Full Length)
6.00
3
Purple Music
10.58
4
Yah, You Know
3.11
5
Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
4.23
6
No Call U
4.30
7
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
2.40
8
Do Yourself A Favor
9.01
9
Don't Let Him Fool Ya
4.35
10
Teacher, Teacher
3.37
11
Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)
7.00
DISC 5
1
Controversy (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
5.41
2
Let's Work (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
5.27
3
Little Red Corvette (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
4.18
4
Do Me, Baby (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
7.18
5
Head (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
4.13
6
Uptown (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
2.55
7
Lisa's Keyboard Interlude (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
2.15
8
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore? (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
7.03
9
Automatic (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
7.02
10
International Lover (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
8.41
11
1999 (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
10.24
12
D.M.S.R. (Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, MI, 11/30/1982 - Late Show)
8.03
DISC 6
1
Controversy (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
4.54
2
Let's Work (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
5.27
3
Do Me, Baby (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
6.35
4
D.M.S.R. (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
4.26
5
Keyboard Interlude (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
3.39
6
Piano Improvisation (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
1.38
7
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore? (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
8.14
8
Lady Cab Driver (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
3.02
9
Automatic (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
5.44
10
International Lover (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
9.50
11
1999 (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
8.08
12
Head (Live at The Summit, Houston, TX, 12/29/1982)
6.02
Reply #276 posted 09/10/19 8:13pm

ChocolateBox3121

sulls said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

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[Edited 9/10/19 17:51pm]

It was my FIRST Prince album and pulled me into the Prince orbit

It's a MAGNIFICENT album to pull U into the purple kingdom. Even though it was Prince's(r.i.p.) fourth album. He still was considered a new underground artist at the time. This one was his FIRST true crossover into a more massive audience before the after Purple Rain fans came along rolleyes . Although I was already a WELL ESTABLISHED FAN even by then & NEVER left . This one remains my ALL TIME FAVORITE Prince (r.i.p.) album.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #277 posted 09/10/19 8:14pm

SoulAlive

Strive said:

 



SoulAlive said:


Strive said:

$70 is alot to ask when Purple Rain Deluxe was $25. Nearly three times the price for an additional From The Vault disc and an uncirculating soundboard. 

I hope that's the MSRP and it will drop to something more reasonable near launch. 



The price will drop as it gets closer to release date.Amazon will give us the lower price,even if you pre-order it now (as I have done).

 


I'm hoping but the digital edition is listed at $50 so I doubt there's going to be a big drop before release. 


https://smile.amazon.com/1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince/dp/B07XJRB535



Yeah....we’ll see what happens....I hope there is a big price drop
Reply #278 posted 09/10/19 8:22pm

controversy99

Apollo85 said:

 


 


Yup! My question is has anyone heard VAGINA, COLLEEN, REARRANGE, BOLD GENERATION, MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES, or YOU'RE ALL I WANT?  eyepop


This release is going to be AWESOME!!!! We get 2 discs of unreleased tracks from one of my favorite Prince eras. It’s a mix of songs I’ve heard before and like, and songs that I’ve heard. Yessss! Some stuff that I know and want to hear in better quality and some songs that’ll be new to me. And I get my favorite Prince album remastered. And a live show. And a DVD. Wow!
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Can somebody please post a list of which songs aren’t on widely circulating bootlegs? List above is a good, but I’m curious if there’s more. I haven’t been chasing after boots for the past two years or so.
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Regarding Extraloveable, the 1982 version is one of my favorite Prince songs (at least for the first 5 minutes or so), but I’m completely ok with them not including it. The song presents a no win situation due to those lyrics.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
Reply #279 posted 09/10/19 8:28pm

jstar69

Thanks for the track lengths feeluup- some excellent full length tracks. Do yourself a favour full length - one word WOW
Reply #280 posted 09/10/19 8:36pm

Moonbeam

An extra 18 Seconds to “Moonbeam Levels”! A 10+ minute live “1999”! eek
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
Reply #281 posted 09/10/19 8:47pm

sulls

Moonbeam said:

An extra 18 Seconds to “Moonbeam Levels”! A 10+ minute live “1999”! eek

Comparing the boot time to the Deluxe time, appears it will contain the fade out, fade in ending!

"I like to watch."
Reply #282 posted 09/10/19 8:57pm

Ramzoo

sulls said:

Moonbeam said:

An extra 18 Seconds to “Moonbeam Levels”! A 10+ minute live “1999”! eek

Comparing the boot time to the Deluxe time, appears it will contain the fade out, fade in ending!

I know that we might always complaining but that's true I was quite disappointed that fade out was included in 4ever. Now I'm so happy: we are very lucky regarding all thoses releases! Can we keep up?

Reply #283 posted 09/10/19 9:11pm

Strive

I'm hyped for Rearrange, Bold Generation and Can't Stop This Feeling I Got. Been on a 1988-1990 kick lately and those three are probably the closest we're going to get to that era for a long, long time.

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #284 posted 09/10/19 9:15pm

AvocadosMax

geetee71 said:

sulls said:

Why the bullshit edits again? Didn't we complain enough about the PR Deluxe inclusion? Jeez...


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I hang out at superdeluxeedition.com for news about physical releases from my non-Prince interests. Over there, collectors get super frothy over the inclusion of rare versions and complain when (on a release like this) the collection of edits/remixes is not exhaustive.
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Ultimately, different people want different things and it’s not always possible to please everyone 100%.
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Personally I think they’ve done pretty well here, with a good mix of released edits/versions, 2 discs of unreleased tracks/demos and two different live shows (rather than just including the audio for the same show which I’ve seen som3 sets do). This works for me biggrin
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It’s ridiculous tho. Why not just make your own if you’re that concerned about it??
Reply #285 posted 09/10/19 9:18pm

AvocadosMax

Bullshit edits and lack of including the two best songs from the era is keeping this from a perfect set. Maybe they’re afraid the MeToo zombies will come after them
Oh well stil excited
Reply #286 posted 09/10/19 9:36pm

FunkyStrange

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying

Reply #287 posted 09/10/19 9:40pm

Strive

FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #288 posted 09/10/19 9:44pm

JoeyC

Ooh Wee! music woot! nutty flower excited drool3faint

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
Reply #289 posted 09/10/19 10:11pm

Transformed1

Pre-ordered the second I saw the amazon link.

Reply #290 posted 09/10/19 10:15pm

Graycap23

It took them 3.5 years 2 finally get it right.

I'll take it.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
Reply #291 posted 09/10/19 10:44pm

langebleu

moderator

ChocolateBox3121 said:

sulls said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: It was my FIRST Prince album and pulled me into the Prince orbit

It's a MAGNIFICENT album to pull U into the purple kingdom. Even though it was Prince's(r.i.p.) fourth album.


It was Prince's fifth album.

fp4apg.jpg

ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
Reply #292 posted 09/10/19 10:47pm

FunkyStrange

Strive said:

FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

oh yeah LOL

all i saw was different track timings and lost it haha

yeah it is 86 ..

Reply #293 posted 09/10/19 11:13pm

bluegangsta

langebleu said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

It's a MAGNIFICENT album to pull U into the purple kingdom. Even though it was Prince's(r.i.p.) fourth album.


It was Prince's fifth album.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #294 posted 09/10/19 11:15pm

pricetag

[Snip - luv4u]
Reply #295 posted 09/10/19 11:36pm

NewpowerScarfo

Just pre ordered the Super deluxe on Amazon. No way I was gonna miss this!

Reply #296 posted 09/11/19 12:22am

Dangelus

Super excited for this!

Why is Amazon UK not have a option to pre-order the set? It will let me pre-order the MP3 versions for £54.99 but no sign of the physical? sad

Reply #297 posted 09/11/19 12:57am

Vannormal

pricetag said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


Sheesh, a 9 minute video which somehow still manages to fail to include that Peggy McReary said that the long/unedited version of "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" is coming out soon: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/prince-birthday-remembered-by-three-key-women-originals-1203235532/


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Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?


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Oh, and the interview with Michael Howe wasn't with a Dutch magazine, it was with Humo, a Belgian magazine.



 


[Snip - luv4u]


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I’m Belgian.
[Snip - luv4u]
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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #298 posted 09/11/19 12:59am

TheEnglishGent

Dangelus said:

Super excited for this!

Why is Amazon UK not have a option to pre-order the set? It will let me pre-order the MP3 versions for £54.99 but no sign of the physical? sad

Was the same with the Versace Experience on Amazon UK, physical was offered much later than digital. Doesn't matter though, not essential to order it today, as soon as it appears I'll be doing it though.

RIP sad
Reply #299 posted 09/11/19 1:07am

TheEnglishGent

FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying

Glad to hear this, I really like the track but the one we have goes on too long for me. I think this will benefit massively for being a tightened up version.

RIP sad
Reply #300 posted 09/11/19 1:08am

JorisE73

Graycap23 said:

It took them 3.5 years 2 finally get it right.

I'll take it.


I heared there were way more alternate versions and outtakes from that era that should be on a proper super deluxe edition, so this is a small step in the right direction compared to Purple Rain Deluxe, but a still a long way from getting it right.

Reply #301 posted 09/11/19 1:14am

pricetag

Vannormal said:

pricetag said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


Sheesh, a 9 minute video which somehow still manages to fail to include that Peggy McReary said that the long/unedited version of "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" is coming out soon: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/prince-birthday-remembered-by-three-key-women-originals-1203235532/


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Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?


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Oh, and the interview with Michael Howe wasn't with a Dutch magazine, it was with Humo, a Belgian magazine.



 


[Snip - luv4u]


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I’m Belgian.
[Snip - luv4u]
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[Snip - luv4u]
Reply #302 posted 09/11/19 2:18am

fabriziovenerandi

"Also, why would Warners suddenly release another album this year?"

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Yes, the joy for the 1999 Deluxe release is completed by the fact that it is once again the BartVanHemelen's pompous messages turned out to be rancorous garbage.

Reply #303 posted 09/11/19 2:55am

RODSERLING

[Off topic, move on snip - luv4u]
Reply #304 posted 09/11/19 3:16am

TheEnglishGent

RODSERLING said:

pricetag said:
[Off topic, move on snip - luv4u]
[Off topic, move on snip - luv4u]


Even if you both agreed to the 'deal', it's hardly legally binding and nobody would be bothered if you both contiune to post here. Let's all forget about it, come together in the excitement for this release and just go about our business.

RIP sad
Reply #305 posted 09/11/19 3:30am

OnlyNDaUsa

FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying

well, you know...

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #306 posted 09/11/19 3:34am

OnlyNDaUsa

Strive said:

FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #307 posted 09/11/19 3:37am

jaawwnn

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Strive said:


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

Yes i'm wondering about this as well. Or are they keeping up the incorrect info so people don't think it's the same as the Purple Rain reissue??


There's nothing i'd do with 10LPS aside from break my back carrying them around so definitely going for the CD version here.


Reply #308 posted 09/11/19 3:47am

sulls

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Strive said:


Isn't the one currently circulating the 86 version?

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

Possessed time runs around the same time as the boot, so most likely the same version. SOOOO looking forward to getting this in studio quality!

"I like to watch."
Reply #309 posted 09/11/19 3:49am

WhisperingDandelions

would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about? I mean I kind of like this better than just blanking out the rape lyric, or pretending the track doesn't exist entirely, and we already were inundated with tons of edits in lieu of genuine "full" versions on Originals, maybe test the waters a bit with a tasteful fade at the 4-5 minute mark.

I also don't get people thinking it's going to be more highlighted on a stand-alone release down the road. With that rape lyric a 5CD box is the perfect place to chuck it somewhere in the middle and hope nobody freaks out or if they do the other content dilutes their outrage, any other context is just going to put even more social commentators on red alert.

Reply #310 posted 09/11/19 3:52am

jaawwnn

I'm a big fan of the 7" edit of Let's Pretend We're Married. I admit I won't be playing that cd in its entirety more than once probably but I'm still happy it's there.

Reply #311 posted 09/11/19 4:17am

OnlyNDaUsa

jaawwnn said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you spoiled the suprise!

also Possessed is from 82? no 83 or 84...?!

Yes i'm wondering about this as well. Or are they keeping up the incorrect info so people don't think it's the same as the Purple Rain reissue??


There's nothing i'd do with 10LPS aside from break my back carrying them around so definitely going for the CD version here.


Yeah I assume it is the 83 version with the "puts up such a fuss" but that was recorded (at least worked on) 15 May 83. Duane Tudahl's book says the song had been around for a while. But the time listed in the book is 8:46 and the one on this set is said to be 8:47...

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #312 posted 09/11/19 4:22am

VaultCurator

WhisperingDandelions said:

would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about? I mean I kind of like this better than just blanking out the rape lyric, or pretending the track doesn't exist entirely, and we already were inundated with tons of edits in lieu of genuine "full" versions on Originals, maybe test the waters a bit with a tasteful fade at the 4-5 minute mark.

I also don't get people thinking it's going to be more highlighted on a stand-alone release down the road. With that rape lyric a 5CD box is the perfect place to chuck it somewhere in the middle and hope nobody freaks out or if they do the other content dilutes their outrage, any other context is just going to put even more social commentators on red alert.

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I agree that if it was going to be released at all, a super deluxe set for hardcore fans that would never complain about it would be the perfect way to smuggle it out.

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I think the sad reality is that WB want to draw zero attention to this song even existing. Same goes for 'Lust U Always'. If they release an edited version it'll only aggravate the fans and draw more attention to it.

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Even in an unreleased state, there is still a risk that one day it'll offend the wrong blue check mark on Twitter and WB / Sony will have a hurricane of piss to clear up.

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The best we can all hope for now is a really good leak. If a 'Box O Chocolates' quality version ever dropped that would be some conciliation at this point.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #313 posted 09/11/19 4:26am

BartVanHemelen

https://www.rhino.com/art...d-expanded

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Note that if you want the concert video, you'll need to buy the DVD; it will NOT be included in the digital downloads.

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #314 posted 09/11/19 4:34am

feeluupp

So some new info on the 1999 Reissue.

Apparently there will be 6 DIFFERENT VERSIONS RELEASED:

VIA Rock It Poole:

Further to our post on Monday we now have permission to share the FULL details of all SIX versions of the 1999 reissue coming November 29th. (Prices & Pre Orders will be live later today)

Super Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 10LP+DVD 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on mylar board • 36 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 4x gatefold 2LP jackets and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 10x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Super Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 5CD+DVD
2-piece box on mylar board • 48 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 6x gatefold wallets • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 4LP 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on outer mylar board • 1x gatefold 2LP jacket and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 4x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 2CD
8 panel softpack gatefold sleeve on mylar board • 16 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered Vinyl Edition
Format: 2LP 180g Purple vinyl
(limited edition – 25k worldwide – after which reverting to black vinyl)
1x wide spine 2LP jacket on outer mylar board • 2x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered CD Edition
Remastered
Format: 1CD
4 panel softpack gatefold sleeve • 8 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

This November 29, The Prince Estate, in partnership with Warner Records, will reissue the timeless 1999 album, remastered for the very first time, along with 35 previously unreleased tracks from Prince’s legendary vault that showcase the creative flow Prince had tapped into during this era.

The 1999 Super Deluxe Edition represents the deepest dive to date into Prince’s vault and includes a total of 65 audio tracks across 10 LPs.

The Super Deluxe Edition brings fans all the audio material that Prince officially released in and around 1982, as well as 23 previously unissued studio tracks recorded between November 1981 and January 1983, and a complete live audio performance of the 1999 tour recorded at the late show (the second of two that day) in Detroit, MI on November 30, 1982. In addition, this vinyl set boasts a brand-new DVD containing another complete, previously unreleased concert from the 1999 tour, recorded in multi-cam live at the Houston Summit on December 29, 1982.

The Super Deluxe Edition set also features Prince’s previously unseen handwritten lyrics for several songs from the era, including the hit “Little Red Corvette,” plus images of the analog tape reels from the vault and rare photography from Prince’s early ‘80s photographer, Allen Beaulieu. The Super Deluxe Edition is completed with brand-new liner notes by longtime Rolling Stone critic David Fricke, revered Guns N’ Roses bassist and author Duff McKagan, Minneapolis historian and radio host Andrea Swensson, and Prince scholar Duane Tudahl.

Reply #315 posted 09/11/19 4:40am

RODSERLING

Is there any hint if there would be a "lead single" to promote this with a music video a la Holly Rock?
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What would be your choice ?
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Will there be a documentary about the making of the album, its reception, its influence and legacy, etc?
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Something to reach a bigger audience than just the fans?
Reply #316 posted 09/11/19 4:41am

jaawwnn

A little disappointed the 1983 version of Wonderful Ass isn't on there, a little; I think it's superior to the the 1984 version. A minor complaint though.



RODSERLING said:

Is there any hint if there would be a "lead single" to promote this with a music video a la Holly Rock? . What would be your choice ? . Will there be a documentary about the making of the album, its reception, its influence and legacy, etc? . Something to reach a bigger audience than just the fans?

I think they've maybe realised that trying to reach a larger audience in 2019 with 35 year old songs is a bit of a dumb idea and they're trying to give more to the people who actually buy this stuff. His autobio will be out though, and he'll still be dead when Netflix finish their documentary.


[Edited 9/11/19 4:47am]

Reply #317 posted 09/11/19 4:44am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

So some new info on the 1999 Reissue.


 


 


 


 


Apparently there will be 6 DIFFERENT VERSIONS RELEASED:


 


 


 


 


VIA Rock It Poole:


 


 




Further to our post on Monday we now have permission to share the FULL details of all SIX versions of the 1999 reissue coming November 29th. (Prices & Pre Orders will be live later today)


Super Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 10LP+DVD 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on mylar board • 36 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 4x gatefold 2LP jackets and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 10x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker



Super Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 5CD+DVD
2-piece box on mylar board • 48 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 6x gatefold wallets • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 4LP 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on outer mylar board • 1x gatefold 2LP jacket and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 4x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 2CD
8 panel softpack gatefold sleeve on mylar board • 16 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Remastered Vinyl Edition
Format: 2LP 180g Purple vinyl
(limited edition – 25k worldwide – after which reverting to black vinyl)
1x wide spine 2LP jacket on outer mylar board • 2x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


Remastered CD Edition
Remastered
Format: 1CD
4 panel softpack gatefold sleeve • 8 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker


This November 29, The Prince Estate, in partnership with Warner Records, will reissue the timeless 1999 album, remastered for the very first time, along with 35 previously unreleased tracks from Prince’s legendary vault that showcase the creative flow Prince had tapped into during this era.


The 1999 Super Deluxe Edition represents the deepest dive to date into Prince’s vault and includes a total of 65 audio tracks across 10 LPs.


The Super Deluxe Edition brings fans all the audio material that Prince officially released in and around 1982, as well as 23 previously unissued studio tracks recorded between November 1981 and January 1983, and a complete live audio performance of the 1999 tour recorded at the late show (the second of two that day) in Detroit, MI on November 30, 1982. In addition, this vinyl set boasts a brand-new DVD containing another complete, previously unreleased concert from the 1999 tour, recorded in multi-cam live at the Houston Summit on December 29, 1982.


The Super Deluxe Edition set also features Prince’s previously unseen handwritten lyrics for several songs from the era, including the hit “Little Red Corvette,” plus images of the analog tape reels from the vault and rare photography from Prince’s early ‘80s photographer, Allen Beaulieu. The Super Deluxe Edition is completed with brand-new liner notes by longtime Rolling Stone critic David Fricke, revered Guns N’ Roses bassist and author Duff McKagan, Minneapolis historian and radio host Andrea Swensson, and Prince scholar Duane Tudahl.










No photo description available.






 



Strange they decide now to release the 6 versions the same day, whereas for Originals they released the deluxe and vinyl version one month later.
Reply #318 posted 09/11/19 4:48am

Cloudbuster

langebleu said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

It's a MAGNIFICENT album to pull U into the purple kingdom. Even though it was Prince's(r.i.p.) fourth album.


It was Prince's fifth album.

fp4apg.jpg


lol

Reply #319 posted 09/11/19 5:06am

massing

feeluupp said:

So some new info on the 1999 Reissue.

Apparently there will be 6 DIFFERENT VERSIONS RELEASED:

VIA Rock It Poole:

Further to our post on Monday we now have permission to share the FULL details of all SIX versions of the 1999 reissue coming November 29th. (Prices & Pre Orders will be live later today)

Super Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 10LP+DVD 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on mylar board • 36 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 4x gatefold 2LP jackets and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 10x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Super Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 5CD+DVD
2-piece box on mylar board • 48 page 4 colour stapled booklet • 6x gatefold wallets • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe Vinyl Edition
Format: 4LP 180g black vinyl
2-piece slipcase box on outer mylar board • 1x gatefold 2LP jacket and 1x wide spine 2LP jacket • 4x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Deluxe CD Edition
Format: 2CD
8 panel softpack gatefold sleeve on mylar board • 16 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered Vinyl Edition
Format: 2LP 180g Purple vinyl
(limited edition – 25k worldwide – after which reverting to black vinyl)
1x wide spine 2LP jacket on outer mylar board • 2x 4 col inner sleeves • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

Remastered CD Edition
Remastered
Format: 1CD
4 panel softpack gatefold sleeve • 8 page 4 colour booklet • Shrinkwrap • Sticker

This November 29, The Prince Estate, in partnership with Warner Records, will reissue the timeless 1999 album, remastered for the very first time, along with 35 previously unreleased tracks from Prince’s legendary vault that showcase the creative flow Prince had tapped into during this era.

The 1999 Super Deluxe Edition represents the deepest dive to date into Prince’s vault and includes a total of 65 audio tracks across 10 LPs.

The Super Deluxe Edition brings fans all the audio material that Prince officially released in and around 1982, as well as 23 previously unissued studio tracks recorded between November 1981 and January 1983, and a complete live audio performance of the 1999 tour recorded at the late show (the second of two that day) in Detroit, MI on November 30, 1982. In addition, this vinyl set boasts a brand-new DVD containing another complete, previously unreleased concert from the 1999 tour, recorded in multi-cam live at the Houston Summit on December 29, 1982.

The Super Deluxe Edition set also features Prince’s previously unseen handwritten lyrics for several songs from the era, including the hit “Little Red Corvette,” plus images of the analog tape reels from the vault and rare photography from Prince’s early ‘80s photographer, Allen Beaulieu. The Super Deluxe Edition is completed with brand-new liner notes by longtime Rolling Stone critic David Fricke, revered Guns N’ Roses bassist and author Duff McKagan, Minneapolis historian and radio host Andrea Swensson, and Prince scholar Duane Tudahl.

It's a shame they're not doing a 'vault tracks only' vinyl version. I already have the original album on vinyl and I have no interest at all in getting those edits on vinyl.

Reply #320 posted 09/11/19 5:12am

feeluupp

Honestly I wish they could just do one big box set like the Bowie sets so it doesn't make it so confusing for the fans to buy so many different versions with different booklets, etc...

Reply #321 posted 09/11/19 5:14am

jaypotton

At last a proper super deluxe treatment for Prince. Looks great. Yes two missing songs but "reasons". Just hoping sound quality is top notch.

I can only hope and dream we get a few more like this, at very least Parade and SOTT.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #322 posted 09/11/19 5:14am

JorisE73

VaultCurator said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about? I mean I kind of like this better than just blanking out the rape lyric, or pretending the track doesn't exist entirely, and we already were inundated with tons of edits in lieu of genuine "full" versions on Originals, maybe test the waters a bit with a tasteful fade at the 4-5 minute mark.

I also don't get people thinking it's going to be more highlighted on a stand-alone release down the road. With that rape lyric a 5CD box is the perfect place to chuck it somewhere in the middle and hope nobody freaks out or if they do the other content dilutes their outrage, any other context is just going to put even more social commentators on red alert.

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I agree that if it was going to be released at all, a super deluxe set for hardcore fans that would never complain about it would be the perfect way to smuggle it out.

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I think the sad reality is that WB want to draw zero attention to this song even existing. Same goes for 'Lust U Always'. If they release an edited version it'll only aggravate the fans and draw more attention to it.

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Even in an unreleased state, there is still a risk that one day it'll offend the wrong blue check mark on Twitter and WB / Sony will have a hurricane of piss to clear up.

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The best we can all hope for now is a really good leak. If a 'Box O Chocolates' quality version ever dropped that would be some conciliation at this point.


I doubt the reason they left Extraloveable off is becuase of the rape lyrics, the song is readily available online for years and noone cares, so why not release it on the deluxe version of teh album it's supposed to be on??

Reply #323 posted 09/11/19 5:18am

MattUK

jaypotton said:

At last a proper super deluxe treatment for Prince. Looks great. Yes two missing songs but "reasons". Just hoping sound quality is top notch. I can only hope and dream we get a few more like this, at very least Parade and SOTT.

yeahthat

Reply #324 posted 09/11/19 5:26am

jaawwnn

JorisE73 said:

VaultCurator said:

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I agree that if it was going to be released at all, a super deluxe set for hardcore fans that would never complain about it would be the perfect way to smuggle it out.

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I think the sad reality is that WB want to draw zero attention to this song even existing. Same goes for 'Lust U Always'. If they release an edited version it'll only aggravate the fans and draw more attention to it.

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Even in an unreleased state, there is still a risk that one day it'll offend the wrong blue check mark on Twitter and WB / Sony will have a hurricane of piss to clear up.

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The best we can all hope for now is a really good leak. If a 'Box O Chocolates' quality version ever dropped that would be some conciliation at this point.


I doubt the reason they left Extraloveable off is becuase of the rape lyrics, the song is readily available online for years and noone cares, so why not release it on the deluxe version of teh album it's supposed to be on??

because "readily online" and "released" are very different things. There's still oodles of things left to be released on the 50th anniversary relese.

Reply #325 posted 09/11/19 5:28am

dave1dmarx

WhisperingDandelions said:

would anyone else have taken a compromise of shoving a "Extraloveable (2019 Promo Edit)" as the last track on the filler promo edits disc every other poster complains about?

Only problem with that idea is that the edits disc is already 78-plus minutes long and therefore unable to hold another song.

Reply #326 posted 09/11/19 5:31am

jaypotton

Extraloveable is a great song but I imagine any archivist going through vault and hearing the rape lyric would just go "no, just no". Heck even Prince left it in the vault and re-recorded it before releasing it.

Much as I am a completist I am not that bothered by it being excluded.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #327 posted 09/11/19 5:40am

JorisE73

jaawwnn said:

JorisE73 said:


I doubt the reason they left Extraloveable off is becuase of the rape lyrics, the song is readily available online for years and noone cares, so why not release it on the deluxe version of teh album it's supposed to be on??

because "readily online" and "released" are very different things. There's still oodles of things left to be released on the 50th anniversary relese.


Well yeah.
The point is if the Estate is scared of the SJW's or the MeToo cronies because of these lyrics then thats pretty sad because if these groups wanted to complain about it they would have already.

and even if they didn't find the song, they will now when everyone complains that it isn't on the new release and attract attention to it and even mention that the lyrics could be a problem and mentions rape.

Reply #328 posted 09/11/19 5:47am

jaawwnn

Yeah maybe, but most people aren't paying attention to that stuff. I suppose there's the potential for it blowing up if enough eyes get on it and thinkpieces in the right hands are written up. Official *sanctioned* releases would make this more likely over obscure outtakes.

It's all very silly, he's expressing an emotion, and not a pleasant one, but they're songs not witness statements. I think they should be released myself but I can see why those compiling this are nixing them. Honestly he covered all of this in Electric Chair, anytime anyone asks me about his personal life I just tell them to consider Prince cancelled and then work from there deciding whether or not they want to like his music shrug


[Edited 9/11/19 5:50am]

Reply #329 posted 09/11/19 5:57am

VaultCurator

jaypotton said:

"Much as I am a completist I am not that bothered by it being excluded."

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lol Not the most committed completist then.
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It's cool. I understand. This quote just amused me. wink

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #330 posted 09/11/19 6:02am

PacManPlus

VaultCurator said:

jstar69 said:

Agree, but isn’t a Studio quality Fade better than no studio release at all? Prince was all about controversy and pushing the envelope back then. Why not release something that reflects the time period it’s from. It would certainly put him back in the news albeit for highly controversial reasons. OK that’s my last comment on the topic(I think)

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I say just drop the vocal between 6:00 and 6:30…
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Everybody, Brownmark say (Ooh!) (Everybody else sing it)
Brownmark, Brownmark say (Ooh ooh!) (Extra lovable)
I can't hear U, say (Ooh!)
This ain't just about your body, baby
It's about your mind (Ooh ooh!)
Come on and take the drop, baby
And spare some time (Ooh!)
– drop vocal –
I'm on the verge of r__e
I don't think U heard me (Ooh ooh!)
I'm on the verge of r__e
I'm on the..
I'm sorry, but I'm just gonna have 2 r__e U
Now are U going 2 get into the tub or do I have 2 drag U?
Don't make me drag U
I can be very cruel
– vocal up –
Yeah!
If U don't stop the groove
Extra lovable beat tell your body what 2 do (Huh!)


I wish I could like this post 1000 times. THIS is the way to do it and make all happy.



Reply #331 posted 09/11/19 6:06am

VaultCurator

jaawwnn said:

It's all very silly, he's expressing an emotion, and not a pleasant one, but they're songs not witness statements.

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Please bear in mind that you are speaking from a position of common sense and rational logic. The average outrage journalist is either wilfully or genuinely ignorant when it comes to matters of nuance, artistic expression or the divide between reality and fiction. The last thing any company needs right now is pitch forks and pussy hats at dawn. They'll never hear the end of it.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #332 posted 09/11/19 6:20am

JorisE73

VaultCurator said:

jaawwnn said:

It's all very silly, he's expressing an emotion, and not a pleasant one, but they're songs not witness statements.

.

Please bear in mind that you are speaking from a position of common sense and rational logic. The average outrage journalist is either wilfully or genuinely ignorant when it comes to matters of nuance, artistic expression or the divide between reality and fiction. The last thing any company needs right now is pitch forks and pussy hats at dawn. They'll never hear the end of it.


This reminds me of those sad people with 'Prince = Devil' signs at the Lovesexy shows I went to.

Reply #333 posted 09/11/19 6:41am

homesquid

Yeah omissions that we shouldn't even know about aside this is exactly the kind of thing we've been whining for.

And the price is a steal!! Queen are releasing a Freddie Mercury set of 3 cds, a book and a dvd and bluray (of same material) and there are ZERO unreleased songs other than some remixing for $119.99 (at the moment) https://www.amazon.com/Ne...amp;sr=8-1

Reply #334 posted 09/11/19 6:41am

sulls

VaultCurator said:

jaawwnn said:

It's all very silly, he's expressing an emotion, and not a pleasant one, but they're songs not witness statements.

.

Please bear in mind that you are speaking from a position of common sense and rational logic. The average outrage journalist is either wilfully or genuinely ignorant when it comes to matters of nuance, artistic expression or the divide between reality and fiction. The last thing any company needs right now is pitch forks and pussy hats at dawn. They'll never hear the end of it.

We need pitch forks and pussy hats emoticons!!! lol lol lol

"I like to watch."
Reply #335 posted 09/11/19 6:46am

soladeo1

I just happily dropped $270 with Amazon to pre-order the Super Deluxe version of 1999. I want the Estate to be delighted by the initial interest so they move greedily ahead with Deluxe versions of DIRTY MIND and CONTROVERSY and PARADE, etc.

1999 is in mega desparate need of a re-master, top to bottom. To hear a brightened, sharp mix of my favorite songs in the world after decades of soupy muddiness is going to be, frankly, incredible.

One thing that's interesting from the song list of the 1999 era Vault tunes. There's nothing 'new' in there that we don't at least know about. 'New' in that we aren't being shocked by song titles that no one has ever heard about or catalogued before. For example, when PURPLE RAIN Deluxe came out many of us where puzzled by the song title "Love & Sex". There's nothing like that here...

It appears that what is listed and known in the Vault section is pretty much all there is... Do you guys agree?

Reply #336 posted 09/11/19 7:04am

Fenwick

Make no mistake. I'm a day one purchaser and am extremely excited about this, even with the now omitted tracks due to....... Ugh.....

No question. Kudos to the estate for getting this sorted.

One thing I haven't seen many/any comments about is the no 5.1 mix. I, for one, would kill to have an isolated Prince vocal in the center, with the assorted instrumentation bouncing around the room.




Is there a specific reason this has not been attempted with this, or other releases to date?

[Edited 9/11/19 7:05am]

Reply #337 posted 09/11/19 7:18am

mushmackalenta

The Purple Politicians should take the credit for breaking this news.

Their video was full of true facts, not just conjecture with claims that were false. "Jerk Out".

Their follow up video was also minus the bragging of other sources that must now be considered unreliable.
Reply #338 posted 09/11/19 7:27am

Matthaus

Omg they really are including Vagina lol. I've always wanted to hear it.

I'm really happy that we will get Purple Music in a remastered form, but I still think they could have included Xtralovable, maybe with a disclaimer about the polemic lyrics. I mean, pretending people didn't sing about those things won't make them go away, it could have been handled in a pedagogical way instead of just being left out.

Reply #339 posted 09/11/19 7:29am

jdcxc

jaypotton said:

Extraloveable is a great song but I imagine any archivist going through vault and hearing the rape lyric would just go "no, just no". Heck even Prince left it in the vault and re-recorded it before releasing it.

Much as I am a completist I am not that bothered by it being excluded.



To All: Any chance they are hidden tracks?
Reply #340 posted 09/11/19 7:31am

mushmackalenta

People got their knickers in a twist about the version of Possessed on Purple Rain set and now we get the version they wanted.

For all we know Extraloveable could be earmarked for another release.
Reply #341 posted 09/11/19 7:33am

mediumdry

jaypotton said:

At last a proper super deluxe treatment for Prince. Looks great. Yes two missing songs but "reasons".

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I'm a bit disappointed too by the missing songs: Wonderful Ass (original) and Raspberry Beret (original), but it does look like a great release!

Reply #342 posted 09/11/19 7:34am

mushmackalenta

Why is there a link to the Violet Reality video which is full of misinformation on the first post?

That surely should be removed.
Reply #343 posted 09/11/19 7:37am

blacknote

Pre-ordered the deluxe CD edition and can't wait for November. I hope WB puts out as much material as possible in the short time this distribution deal is still active.

Maybe, just maybe, WB can include ExtraLovable as a part of a "demos" collection.

Reply #344 posted 09/11/19 7:38am

dustoff

WhisperingDandelions said:

I also don't get people thinking it's going to be more highlighted on a stand-alone release down the road. With that rape lyric a 5CD box is the perfect place to chuck it somewhere in the middle and hope nobody freaks out or if they do the other content dilutes their outrage, any other context is just going to put even more social commentators on red alert.


Unless it becomes the dominant focus of discussion about an otherwise fantastic release. The critics might be quick to play down or contextualize the lyrics, but the more general media -- well, just imagine a week of coverage dominated by "What's Up With Prince and Rape" articles and blog posts. Why risk alienating potential fans and younger audiences who would see that as evidence of Prince's obscolescence?

I've stepped into this debate without really wanting to. I think there are good arguments on both sides, and frankly I'm ambivalent about the song and whether it should be released. But the more I think about it, the closer I come to the opinion that we are not owed Extraloveable, and that its absence here shouldn't detract from a great set. It might just be that now is not the most opportune moment for the song to be heard.

Reply #345 posted 09/11/19 7:47am

Urine

Shame the 1999 New Master tracks were not included.
Reply #346 posted 09/11/19 7:49am

2freaky4church1

Sounds interesting,.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
Reply #347 posted 09/11/19 7:55am

heymistermusic

Urine said:

Shame the 1999 New Master tracks were not included.

They're saving that for the 2999 release evillol

Reply #348 posted 09/11/19 7:56am

jaawwnn

mushmackalenta said:

People got their knickers in a twist about the version of Possessed on Purple Rain set and now we get the version they wanted. For all we know Extraloveable could be earmarked for another release.

HitnRun Volumes 1 and 2 complete sessions boxset, earmarked for a 2035 anniversary edition, along with the Andy Allo rap version and the version without her rap but also without the horns.



Urine said:

Shame the 1999 New Master tracks were not included.

NO IT IS NOT. lol

[Edited 9/11/19 7:57am]

Reply #349 posted 09/11/19 8:03am

radicalrojo

I'll nab the deluxe CD set asap. What a great release. My own complaint about this is the lack of "1999," remix or extended version. I've always wondered if there was one out there and, while this shouldn't be taken as the 1999 studio sessions in the entirety, it's a mark against that hope. Oh well. I'm ready for this thing though!!

Reply #350 posted 09/11/19 8:15am

jaawwnn

I notice Paul @ Superdeluxeedition seems to have heard this already:

https://www.superdeluxeed...-material/

he's not a Prince superfan or anything so I assume there's been a copy of this doing the rounds amongst tastemakers for a while now? Possibly since the original postponed release?

Reply #351 posted 09/11/19 8:24am

TrevorAyer

Maybe there are legal issues with extra lovable due to its release on hit n run and sony owning the rights ... or maybe they will release it as a 45 during a vikings game
Reply #352 posted 09/11/19 8:38am

ChocolateBox3121

langebleu said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

It's a MAGNIFICENT album to pull U into the purple kingdom. Even though it was Prince's(r.i.p.) fourth album.


It was Prince's fifth album.

fp4apg.jpg

That's ALL U can pick out of ALL of that I wrote?! That I slightly miscounted one of my musical heroes MANY almost 40 albums he released in his lifetime? Then stop me from re-editing it? disbelief

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #353 posted 09/11/19 8:43am

NewpowerScarfo

Hopefully next Around the World in a Day gets the remastered Super Deluxe treatment!
Reply #354 posted 09/11/19 8:51am

eyewishuheaven

NewpowerScarfo said:

Hopefully next Around the World in a Day gets the remastered Super Deluxe treatment!



How are they gonna decide which colour gets replaced with silver foil??? lol

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #355 posted 09/11/19 8:54am

JAYJOE

eyewishuheaven said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Hopefully next Around the World in a Day gets the remastered Super Deluxe treatment!



How are they gonna decide which colour gets replaced with silver foil??? lol

I say make the whole cover metallic! cool

he might have better luck if he was drummin with his Dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply #356 posted 09/11/19 9:17am

Vannormal

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  • Super Deluxe Edition 10LP & DVD Box Set
  • Booklet
  • LP1-2: 1999 album (remastered for the very first time)
  • LP3-4: Promo mixes & B-sides (remastered)
  • LP5-6: Vault Tracks part 1 (recorded between November 1981 to April 1982)
  • LP7-8: Vault Tracks part 2 (recorded between April 1982 to January 1983)
  • LP9-10: previously unreleased concert performance (Live In Detroit, 30th November 1982)

Selections

LP 1 - Remastered album:

Side A:
  1. 1999
  2. Little Red Corvette
  3. Delirious
Side B:
  1. Let's Pretend We're Married
  2. D.M.S.R.

LP 2 - Remastered album:

Side C:
  1. Automatic
  2. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
  3. Free
Side D:
  1. Lady Cab Driver
  2. All The Critics Love U In New York
  3. International Lover

LP 3 - Promo Mixes & B-sides:

Side A:
  1. 1999 (7" Stereo Edit)
  2. 1999 (7" Mono Promo-Only Edit)
  3. Free (Promo Only Edit)
  4. How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore
  5. Little Red Corvette (7" Edit)
Side B:
  1. All The Critics Love U In New York (7" Edit)
  2. Lady Cab Driver (7" Edit)
  3. Little Red Corvette (Dance Remix Promo Only Edit)
  4. Little Red Corvette (Special Dance Mix)

LP 4 - Promo Mixes & B-sides:

Side C:
  1. Delirious (7" Edit)
  2. Horny Toad
  3. Automatic (7" Edit)
  4. Automatic (Video Version)
  5. Let's Pretend We're Married (7" Edit)
Side D:
  1. Let's Pretend We're Married (7" Mono Promo Only Edit)
  2. Irresistible Bitch
  3. Let's Pretend We're Married (Video Version)
  4. D.M.S.R.

LP 5 - Vault Tracks part 1 - Recorded between November 1981 to April 1982:

Side A:
  1. Feel U Up
  2. Irresistible Bitch
  3. Money Don't Grow On Trees
  4. Vagina
Side B:
  1. Rearrange
  2. Bold Generation
  3. Colleen

LP 6 - Vault Tracks part 1 - Recorded between November 1981 to April 1982:

Side C:
  1. International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
  2. Turn It Up
  3. You're All I Want
Side D:
  1. Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
  2. If It'll Make U Happy
  3. How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)

LP 7 - Vault Tracks part 2 (recorded between April 1982 to January 1983)

Side A:
  1. Possessed (1982 Version)
  2. Delirious (Full Length)
Side B:
  1. Purple Music
  2. Yah, You Know
  3. Moonbeam Levels

LP 8 - Vault Tracks part 2 (recorded between April 1982 to January 1983)

Side C:
  1. No Call U
  2. Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
  3. Do Yourself A Favor
Side D:
  1. Don't Let Him Fool Ya
  2. Teacher, Teacher
  3. Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)

LP 9 - Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, November 30, 1982 - previously unreleased:

Side A:
  1. Controversy
  2. Let's Work
  3. Little Red Corvette
  4. Do Me, Baby
Side B:
  1. Head
  2. Uptown
  3. Lisa's Keyboard Interlude
  4. How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?

LP 10 - Live at Masonic Hall, Detroit, November 30, 1982 - previously unreleased:

Side C:
  1. Automatic
  2. International Lover
  3. 1999
Side D:
  1. D.M.S.R.

DVD

Complete previously unreleased 1999 Tour performance recorded Live In Houston, 29th December 1982

-

"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #357 posted 09/11/19 9:44am

VaultCurator

eyewishuheaven said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Hopefully next Around the World in a Day gets the remastered Super Deluxe treatment!



How are they gonna decide which colour gets replaced with silver foil??? lol

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Dig if you will a picture...

.

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I've owned this album for almost 20 years and only just noticed that the landscape appears to have a bright pink nipple.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #358 posted 09/11/19 9:56am

SquirrelMeat

VaultCurator said:

 



eyewishuheaven said:


 



NewpowerScarfo said:


Hopefully next Around the World in a Day gets the remastered Super Deluxe treatment!



How are they gonna decide which colour gets replaced with silver foil???  lol



.


Dig if you will a picture...


.



.


I've owned this album for almost 20 years and only just noticed that the landscape appears to have a bright pink nipple.




Looking forward to your shock when you fold out the whole cover and realise the'mountains' are a woman laying down.
.
Reply #359 posted 09/11/19 10:02am

NewpowerScarfo

eyewishuheaven said:

 



NewpowerScarfo said:


Hopefully next Around the World in a Day gets the remastered Super Deluxe treatment!



How are they gonna decide which colour gets replaced with silver foil???  lol


lol lol cool
Reply #360 posted 09/11/19 10:34am

sulls

SquirrelMeat said:

VaultCurator said:

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Dig if you will a picture...

.

.

I've owned this album for almost 20 years and only just noticed that the landscape appears to have a bright pink nipple.

Looking forward to your shock when you fold out the whole cover and realise the'mountains' are a woman laying down.

I've wondered if the foreground is Paisley Park and the background the land of Sinaplenty

"I like to watch."
Reply #361 posted 09/11/19 10:34am

langebleu

moderator

Back on topic please - 1999 release - thank you.

l'ange bleu - moderator

ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
Reply #362 posted 09/11/19 10:41am

soladeo1

Of the 1999 "Vault" songs, who's heard them?

I think we've all heard TURN IT UP, FEEL U UP, etc.

But whos' heard TEACHER TEACHER and/or Rearrange? Or BOLD GENERATION or MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES???

A non-falsetto version of HOW COME U DON'T CALL ME ANYMORE sounds intriguing!

Reply #363 posted 09/11/19 10:44am

ludwig

soladeo1 said:

Of the 1999 "Vault" songs, who's heard them?

I think we've all heard TURN IT UP, FEEL U UP, etc.

But whos' heard TEACHER TEACHER and/or Rearrange? Or BOLD GENERATION or MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES???

A non-falsetto version of HOW COME U DON'T CALL ME ANYMORE sounds intriguing!

Teacher teacher is in circulation for years. I guess most hardcore prince fans have heard it.

Reply #364 posted 09/11/19 10:46am

TwiliteKid

ludwig said:

soladeo1 said:

Of the 1999 "Vault" songs, who's heard them?

I think we've all heard TURN IT UP, FEEL U UP, etc.

But whos' heard TEACHER TEACHER and/or Rearrange? Or BOLD GENERATION or MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES???

A non-falsetto version of HOW COME U DON'T CALL ME ANYMORE sounds intriguing!

Teacher teacher is in circulation for years. I guess most hardcore prince fans have heard it.

It is assumed/hoped that this will be the earlier version, which is not floating around.

Reply #365 posted 09/11/19 11:28am

Genesia

ChocolateBox3121 said:

langebleu said:


It was Prince's fifth album.

fp4apg.jpg

That's ALL U can pick out of ALL of that I wrote?! That I slightly miscounted one of my musical heroes MANY almost 40 albums he released in his lifetime? Then stop me from re-editing it? disbelief


Nobody reads anything you write.


fp4apg.jpg

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
Reply #366 posted 09/11/19 11:28am

jfenster

so the extended Irresistable Bitch is NOT here????

Reply #367 posted 09/11/19 11:53am

IstenSzek

jfenster said:

so the extended Irresistable Bitch is NOT here????


yeah, i was hoping for that one neutral

the only changes i would make to this set is to ditch most of the single edits and other stuff
on disc 2 and just put more alternate versions of album tracks (extended/alternate mix/etc)
and a couple more era tracks on there (like "u should b mine", "fox trap", "boom boom" etc).

beyond that i'm glad we're getting a decent amount of material, which bodes quite well for
the future reissues. yay.



and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #368 posted 09/11/19 12:24pm

namepeace

IstenSzek said:

.

i'm glad we're getting a decent amount of material, which bodes quite well for
the future reissues. yay.


yeahthat

I'm so excited for what deluxe versions of Parade and Sign O' The Times could look like now.

Maybe Parade would include a DVD of the birthday show?

Maybe SOTT would include the movie itself?

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
Reply #369 posted 09/11/19 12:30pm

SweetKathleen

A little expensive....but can't not have it. Ordered!

I miss you my friend --jj, me, and many others
Reply #370 posted 09/11/19 12:39pm

Cloudbuster

Genesia said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That's ALL U can pick out of ALL of that I wrote?! That I slightly miscounted one of my musical heroes MANY almost 40 albums he released in his lifetime? Then stop me from re-editing it? disbelief


Nobody reads anything you write.


fp4apg.jpg


lol

Reply #371 posted 09/11/19 12:43pm

ChocolateBox3121

Genesia said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That's ALL U can pick out of ALL of that I wrote?! That I slightly miscounted one of my musical heroes MANY almost 40 albums he released in his lifetime? Then stop me from re-editing it? disbelief


Nobody reads anything you write.


fp4apg.jpg

rolleyes

My org notes say otherwise...

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #372 posted 09/11/19 12:43pm

GiggityGoo

Oh, I am so glad to hear the album's getting remastered. Prince's 80s output has SUUUUUCKED sound-wise on CD. I'm hopeful that any work they eventually do on "Sign 'O' The Times" (my favorite) will open up the soundscape in new ways I haven't been able to hear before.

.

Anyone here a fan of XTC and/or Yes? If so, have you gotten the Steven Wilson remix sets of any of their albums? HOLY CRAP, are they spectacular. Wilson has a magician's touch with bringing out the best, clearest sound from every multi-track. He's a prolific musician himself, and I think that helps him with balancing the instrumentation and vocals.

.

Also, whoever did the Japanese remasters of Queen's discography should get a Nobel prizel. Even in my car stereo, with all the road noise, the songs sound brighter and more expansive than they ever did before.

.

So I'm hoping that the Estate gets someone who knows what they're doing to handle the remastering. It's not just bumping up the volume... it's important to go back to the original tapes (multi-tracks if you can get them!) and do everything from the ground up.

Reply #373 posted 09/11/19 12:51pm

soladeo1

GiggityGoo said:

Oh, I am so glad to hear the album's getting remastered. Prince's 80s output has SUUUUUCKED sound-wise on CD. I'm hopeful that any work they eventually do on "Sign 'O' The Times" (my favorite) will open up the soundscape in new ways I haven't been able to hear before.

.

Anyone here a fan of XTC and/or Yes? If so, have you gotten the Steven Wilson remix sets of any of their albums? HOLY CRAP, are they spectacular. Wilson has a magician's touch with bringing out the best, clearest sound from every multi-track. He's a prolific musician himself, and I think that helps him with balancing the instrumentation and vocals.

.

Also, whoever did the Japanese remasters of Queen's discography should get a Nobel prizel. Even in my car stereo, with all the road noise, the songs sound brighter and more expansive than they ever did before.

.

So I'm hoping that the Estate gets someone who knows what they're doing to handle the remastering. It's not just bumping up the volume... it's important to go back to the original tapes (multi-tracks if you can get them!) and do everything from the ground up.

HUGE XTX fan here. My heavens, SKYLARKING and ORANGES AND LEMONS!!

Are you a fan of Jellyfish???

But I agree, its criminal that an artist as huge and as well-regarded as Prince has his Classic Era stuff out there sounding so poorly...

Reply #374 posted 09/11/19 12:52pm

jfenster

GiggityGoo said:

Oh, I am so glad to hear the album's getting remastered. Prince's 80s output has SUUUUUCKED sound-wise on CD. I'm hopeful that any work they eventually do on "Sign 'O' The Times" (my favorite) will open up the soundscape in new ways I haven't been able to hear before.

.

Anyone here a fan of XTC and/or Yes? If so, have you gotten the Steven Wilson remix sets of any of their albums? HOLY CRAP, are they spectacular. Wilson has a magician's touch with bringing out the best, clearest sound from every multi-track. He's a prolific musician himself, and I think that helps him with balancing the instrumentation and vocals.

.

Also, whoever did the Japanese remasters of Queen's discography should get a Nobel prizel. Even in my car stereo, with all the road noise, the songs sound brighter and more expansive than they ever did before.

.

So I'm hoping that the Estate gets someone who knows what they're doing to handle the remastering. It's not just bumping up the volume... it's important to go back to the original tapes (multi-tracks if you can get them!) and do everything from the ground up.

so the queen Japanese remasters r better than the usa versions? do they have same tracks?

Reply #375 posted 09/11/19 1:01pm

IstenSzek

GiggityGoo said:

Oh, I am so glad to hear the album's getting remastered. Prince's 80s output has SUUUUUCKED sound-wise on CD. I'm hopeful that any work they eventually do on "Sign 'O' The Times" (my favorite) will open up the soundscape in new ways I haven't been able to hear before.

.

Anyone here a fan of XTC and/or Yes? If so, have you gotten the Steven Wilson remix sets of any of their albums? HOLY CRAP, are they spectacular. Wilson has a magician's touch with bringing out the best, clearest sound from every multi-track. He's a prolific musician himself, and I think that helps him with balancing the instrumentation and vocals.

.

Also, whoever did the Japanese remasters of Queen's discography should get a Nobel prizel. Even in my car stereo, with all the road noise, the songs sound brighter and more expansive than they ever did before.

.

So I'm hoping that the Estate gets someone who knows what they're doing to handle the remastering. It's not just bumping up the volume... it's important to go back to the original tapes (multi-tracks if you can get them!) and do everything from the ground up.


Sign O The Times is the one that's most in need of a remaster. Although the vinyl does sound ok.

But it could be brought to life in such beautiful, amazing ways, with a DECENT remaster. let's keep
our fingers crossed that they will release a box set of SOTT + lots of goodies one day in the not too
distant future.

1999 remaster will be a first sign of what to expect I guess. although it's a bit strange that they're
not saying (yet) who did the remaster. or did i not read careful enough?


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #376 posted 09/11/19 1:09pm

pricetag

BartVanHemelen said:

https://www.rhino.com/art...d-expanded

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Note that if you want the concert video, you'll need to buy the DVD; it will NOT be included in the digital downloads.

[Snip - luv4u]

Reply #377 posted 09/11/19 1:19pm

jfenster

IstenSzek said:

jfenster said:

so the extended Irresistable Bitch is NOT here????


yeah, i was hoping for that one neutral

the only changes i would make to this set is to ditch most of the single edits and other stuff
on disc 2 and just put more alternate versions of album tracks (extended/alternate mix/etc)
and a couple more era tracks on there (like "u should b mine", "fox trap", "boom boom" etc).

beyond that i'm glad we're getting a decent amount of material, which bodes quite well for
the future reissues. yay.



on this set ....IBitch ....one is 4:14 and other is 4:39 ......? whats the difference???

[Edited 9/11/19 13:40pm]

Reply #378 posted 09/11/19 1:36pm

love2thenines2003

ludwig said:

soladeo1 said:

Of the 1999 "Vault" songs, who's heard them?

I think we've all heard TURN IT UP, FEEL U UP, etc.

But whos' heard TEACHER TEACHER and/or Rearrange? Or BOLD GENERATION or MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES???

A non-falsetto version of HOW COME U DON'T CALL ME ANYMORE sounds intriguing!

Teacher teacher is in circulation for years. I guess most hardcore prince fans have heard it.

But not the 82 version , the one circulating 4 years is a reworked one from 85 with the Revolution it seems !

Reply #379 posted 09/11/19 1:39pm

OnlyNDaUsa

JAYJOE said:

eyewishuheaven said:



How are they gonna decide which colour gets replaced with silver foil??? lol

I say make the whole cover metallic! cool

when I first heard about it (after seeing the Purple Rain Deluxe cover) I envisioned it with a purple foil background and and embossed Prince 1999!

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #380 posted 09/11/19 1:49pm

OnlyNDaUsa

jfenster said:

IstenSzek said:


yeah, i was hoping for that one neutral

the only changes i would make to this set is to ditch most of the single edits and other stuff
on disc 2 and just put more alternate versions of album tracks (extended/alternate mix/etc)
and a couple more era tracks on there (like "u should b mine", "fox trap", "boom boom" etc).

beyond that i'm glad we're getting a decent amount of material, which bodes quite well for
the future reissues. yay.



on this set ....IBitch ....one is 4:14 and other is 4:39 ......? whats the difference???

[Edited 9/11/19 13:40pm]

one thing is (at least the one I heard) the first and second chorus are reversed... in the early one it stars with "All my partners ask me..." as opposed to "every Friday night I call your but up..."

I believe he flipped them live as well... as well as other musical differences. you will notice it.

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #381 posted 09/11/19 1:59pm

OnlyNDaUsa

FunkyStrange said:

"Yah, You Know" has been edited down to 3.11 from the 5 and a half minute version currently circulating .. annoying

but most of the difference is horns and repeating the beat. It is likley the same vcocal but not horns.

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #382 posted 09/11/19 2:05pm

PurpleBlackmon

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Love the piano demo for Something In The Water. Glad to see it officially being released.

Love the Prince version of Jerk Out as well. His version of Chocolate is awesome too, i wonder if it could be there as well?

You heard the Prince version of Jerk Out?

Reply #383 posted 09/11/19 2:15pm

Doalwa

Shut up and take my fucking money!
Reply #384 posted 09/11/19 3:53pm

ThirdStrike

Amazon still has it listed for a November 15th release though...

Reply #385 posted 09/11/19 4:00pm

FragileUndertow

Genesia said:

Nobody reads anything you write.


fp4apg.jpg


:lol:
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #386 posted 09/11/19 4:03pm

AvocadosMax

I think it’ll drop on Tidal on the 15th and the estate just had communication errors while sending that info to the press
Reply #387 posted 09/11/19 4:04pm

AvocadosMax

Or it is when a promo single will drop
Reply #388 posted 09/11/19 4:06pm

AvocadosMax

I really wish they put Extraloveable on here. Could have just taken the rape lyrics out. I just really wish I could blast that full version
Reply #389 posted 09/11/19 4:07pm

AvocadosMax

Or maybe Prince himself stepped into the vault and destroyed it after he re-recorded it in 2011 or whenever it was
Reply #390 posted 09/11/19 4:10pm

AvocadosMax

Freek99999 said:

Woww... so thrilled!


 


Of course disc 2 is unlistenable with all the boring edits. Who would want to listen to an edit of 1999 two times in a row, one in stereo one in mono? same for Let's Pretend... Anyone besides DataBank? smile


 


I will create my own disc 2, with the b-sides, LRC dance mix and outtakes omitted from the box. 


Exactly. They need to cut it out with that shit. Waste of space on a disc
Reply #391 posted 09/11/19 4:15pm

bonnie184

Assuming the digital pre-order goes up this Friday, we should be getting a track as well. My guess is, How come u don't call me anymore? (take 2)

Reply #392 posted 09/11/19 4:17pm

AvocadosMax

bonnie184 said:

Assuming the digital pre-order goes up this Friday, we should be getting a track as well. My guess is, How come u don't call me anymore? (take 2) 


Good guess. The guy that Peach & Black had an interview with said that he heard a recording of Prince and a piano and he said he thought it was amazing and should come out soon
Reply #393 posted 09/11/19 4:29pm

JoeyCococo

GiggityGoo said:

Oh, I am so glad to hear the album's getting remastered. Prince's 80s output has SUUUUUCKED sound-wise on CD. I'm hopeful that any work they eventually do on "Sign 'O' The Times" (my favorite) will open up the soundscape in new ways I haven't been able to hear before.

.

Anyone here a fan of XTC and/or Yes? If so, have you gotten the Steven Wilson remix sets of any of their albums? HOLY CRAP, are they spectacular. Wilson has a magician's touch with bringing out the best, clearest sound from every multi-track. He's a prolific musician himself, and I think that helps him with balancing the instrumentation and vocals.

.

Also, whoever did the Japanese remasters of Queen's discography should get a Nobel prizel. Even in my car stereo, with all the road noise, the songs sound brighter and more expansive than they ever did before.

.

So I'm hoping that the Estate gets someone who knows what they're doing to handle the remastering. It's not just bumping up the volume... it's important to go back to the original tapes (multi-tracks if you can get them!) and do everything from the ground up.

Totally agree...I truly hope they put real effort into this and paid the right people. Whatever they did to 'Baby You're A Trip'....more pls! I do have a vinyl rip of 1999 that was so much better than the CD ..i was shocked. I heard guitar licks in Lady Cab Driver I'd never heard. I really hope to get a great remaster of 1999.

Reply #394 posted 09/11/19 4:43pm

OnlyNDaUsa

bonnie184 said:

Assuming the digital pre-order goes up this Friday, we should be getting a track as well. My guess is, How come u don't call me anymore? (take 2)

Peggy McCreary said this in June....some maybe not different take? just 2 mins longer?

"And I didn’t hear it again until years later when I found it on a CD of Prince’s B-sides — and it was “How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore?” It’s such a great song. The long version is gonna come out soon, we faded it out."

https://variety.com/2019/...203235532/

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #395 posted 09/11/19 4:46pm

bluegangsta

I know it's unlikely, but I really hope the outtakes are the original mixes. As nice as the Bolas mixes were on Originals, combining different versions and using monophonic reverb really spoiled it for me.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
Reply #396 posted 09/11/19 4:46pm

OnlyNDaUsa

AvocadosMax said:

I think it’ll drop on Tidal on the 15th and the estate just had communication errors while sending that info to the press

no. Orgnals was the end of that deal... no way they will risk losing that much money

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #397 posted 09/11/19 5:45pm

macaylasdad

Why can't people just be happy that we are getting an album (that desperately needed it) remastered with music from the vault (that have been heavily bootlegged) remastered and some unheard tracks?!?! They are going to bitch about what's not on there, what should be on there and how much it's cost!!! Boo fucking hoo! Here's a solution for those whiners, don't freaking buy it! Save your money!

Reply #398 posted 09/11/19 5:48pm

rdhull

Isn't it weird that the dvd show ends with Head? I know that's how the show went down but that's weird he chose to close with Head.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #399 posted 09/11/19 5:49pm

PennyPurple

Target usually carries these Prince items, and had an exclusive track on the Original's CD, I'm wondering if they will have something exclusive for Target buyers this time?

Reply #400 posted 09/11/19 5:51pm

rdhull

PennyPurple said:

Target usually carries these Prince items, and had an exclusive track on the Original's CD, I'm wondering if they will have something exclusive for Target buyers this time?

Extraloveable lol

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #401 posted 09/11/19 5:58pm

bonnie184

Reply #402 posted 09/11/19 6:02pm

rdhull

And remember pre-orderers: you probably wont get it until days later than the release date like last time.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #403 posted 09/11/19 6:13pm

jstar69

bonnie184 said:



Looks like it’s been removed
Reply #404 posted 09/11/19 6:20pm

OnlyNDaUsa

rdhull said:

And remember pre-orderers: you probably wont get it until days later than the release date like last time.

Oh, yeah! I think my Orginals from Amazon was a few days late. But I already had the songs thaks to Tidal.

If mine is late on Amazon I am not sure what I would do!

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #405 posted 09/11/19 6:21pm

FragileUndertow

PennyPurple said:

Target usually carries these Prince items, and had an exclusive  track on the Original's CD, I'm wondering if they will have something exclusive for Target buyers this time?




Just a guess.
If they carry it in stores it might be the 2 disc set.

They had the 2 disc set of purple rain.
The deluxe with DVD was only sold online
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #406 posted 09/11/19 6:24pm

PennyPurple

FragileUndertow said:

PennyPurple said:

Target usually carries these Prince items, and had an exclusive track on the Original's CD, I'm wondering if they will have something exclusive for Target buyers this time?

Just a guess. If they carry it in stores it might be the 2 disc set. They had the 2 disc set of purple rain. The deluxe with DVD was only sold online

Hmm..thank you. I should probably pre-order on Amazon then.

Reply #407 posted 09/11/19 6:34pm

bonnie184

jstar69 said:

bonnie184 said:

https://music.apple.com/u...1479565271

Looks like it’s been removed

It's still loading for me. $49.99 Super Deluxe - All tracks are "Album Only" Purchase. So there is no early release track available.

Reply #408 posted 09/11/19 6:38pm

TwiliteKid

bonnie184 said:

 



jstar69 said:


bonnie184 said:

 https://music.apple.com/us/album/1999-super-deluxe-edition/1479565271



Looks like it’s been removed

 


It's still loading for me. $49.99 Super Deluxe - All tracks are "Album Only" Purchase. So there is no early release track available. 



Do any of the tracks have times listed? That’s often a giveaway that the file has been loaded and is just waiting for release.
Reply #409 posted 09/11/19 6:54pm

AvocadosMax

I hope they’ll release a single soon. Right now. This second. Today. This millisecond
Reply #410 posted 09/11/19 7:03pm

djThunderfunk

FragileUndertow said:

PennyPurple said:

Target usually carries these Prince items, and had an exclusive track on the Original's CD, I'm wondering if they will have something exclusive for Target buyers this time?

Just a guess. If they carry it in stores it might be the 2 disc set. They had the 2 disc set of purple rain. The deluxe with DVD was only sold online


I bought the deluxe Purple Rain with DVD in store at Best Buy the day of release.

Of course, I don't think Best Buy still has CDs. Target should have the complete version though.


[Edited 9/11/19 19:05pm]

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #411 posted 09/11/19 7:34pm

jjhunsecker

Any word on who is doing the remastering ? Bernie Grundman perhaps ?

Reply #412 posted 09/11/19 7:43pm

WhisperingDandelions

just for the record, Grundman did remaster the 2011 vinyl+24/96 remasters... just for future knowledge in case anyone wants to break some furniture when we find out which Ph.D in volume maximization is doing the 2019 set.

[Edited 9/11/19 19:44pm]

Reply #413 posted 09/11/19 7:46pm

WhisperingDandelions

PennyPurple said:

FragileUndertow said:

PennyPurple said: Just a guess. If they carry it in stores it might be the 2 disc set. They had the 2 disc set of purple rain. The deluxe with DVD was only sold online

Hmm..thank you. I should probably pre-order on Amazon then.

Why not just wait until Target press releases what's going on?

I always see people pre-order, but aren't those like delayed in the mail 70% of the time anyway?

Reply #414 posted 09/11/19 8:41pm

icecreamcastle777

Sounds good but I wanted "Promise 2 B true" to be on this.

Reply #415 posted 09/11/19 9:15pm

thedoorkeeper

Already pre-ordered from Amazon.
And if Target has a version with an additional track I'll cancel my pre-order.
Problem solved.
Reply #416 posted 09/11/19 9:57pm

Romeoblu

Amazon UK have the release date as 15th.
Reply #417 posted 09/11/19 10:29pm

funkypixie

bonnie184 said:

Assuming the digital pre-order goes up this Friday, we should be getting a track as well. My guess is, How come u don't call me anymore? (take 2) 



Tidal is listing Prince amongst the artists releasing music on Friday so I think one of the unreleased tracks will be released to digital/streaming services.
Reply #418 posted 09/12/19 12:17am

jaawwnn

WhisperingDandelions said:

just for the record, Grundman did remaster the 2011 vinyl+24/96 remasters...  just for future knowledge in case anyone wants to break some furniture when we find out which Ph.D in volume maximization is doing the 2019 set.

[Edited 9/11/19 19:44pm]


lol I dont have any problems with the original vinyl, or indeed the common CD with a half decent sound system and a volume control. If this basically amounts to "mastered for Spotify" I won't mind too much. Something like the Steve Wilson mixes would be great but those XTC releases are niche stuff, this is still a big release, I'm not holding my breath for miracles.
Reply #419 posted 09/12/19 12:32am

Romeoblu

funkypixie said:

bonnie184 said:

Assuming the digital pre-order goes up this Friday, we should be getting a track as well. My guess is, How come u don't call me anymore? (take 2) 



Tidal is listing Prince amongst the artists releasing music on Friday so I think one of the unreleased tracks will be released to digital/streaming services.



That would be nice but I think the new music could just be Versace experience.

Let's hope we also get a track from 1999 Deluxe.
Reply #420 posted 09/12/19 12:50am

TheEnglishGent

Super deluxe CD set is now available to pre order on Amazone UK. Just ordered mine. They're listing it at £64.99 but if the price drops they charge you the lower price.

RIP sad
Reply #421 posted 09/12/19 1:49am

BlueShakooo

rdhull said:

Isn't it weird that the dvd show ends with Head? I know that's how the show went down but that's weird he chose to close with Head.

Like I've said:

We're all here for ridiculous comments.

biggrin

"Don't get too serious, it's just a dream."
Reply #422 posted 09/12/19 1:56am

TheEnglishGent

You can't end a show with Head, that blows.

RIP sad
Reply #423 posted 09/12/19 2:05am

BartVanHemelen

jfenster said:

IstenSzek said:


yeah, i was hoping for that one neutral

the only changes i would make to this set is to ditch most of the single edits and other stuff
on disc 2 and just put more alternate versions of album tracks (extended/alternate mix/etc)
and a couple more era tracks on there (like "u should b mine", "fox trap", "boom boom" etc).

beyond that i'm glad we're getting a decent amount of material, which bodes quite well for
the future reissues. yay.



on this set ....IBitch ....one is 4:14 and other is 4:39 ......? whats the difference???

[Edited 9/11/19 13:40pm]

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http://www.princevault.co...ible_Bitch

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Reply #424 posted 09/12/19 2:14am

RODSERLING

They really should have done a 25$ deluxe CD set like PR deluxe, with the album remasterized + CD3+CD4+ the dvd.
Keep the radio edit CD and the live CD for the super deluxe edition.
.
Also the 4 LP version is ridiculously filled with 2LP of radio edits...
.
They miss the chance to attract a broader audience than just the casual fan.
Reply #425 posted 09/12/19 3:16am

Romeoblu

RODSERLING said:

They really should have done a 25$ deluxe CD set like PR deluxe, with the album remasterized + CD3+CD4+ the dvd.
Keep the radio edit CD and the live CD for the super deluxe edition.
.
Also the 4 LP version is ridiculously filled with 2LP of radio edits...
.
They miss the chance to attract a broader audience than just the casual fan.



They should have made that 4 LP with the from the vault tracks for sure.
Reply #426 posted 09/12/19 3:18am

jjam

TheEnglishGent said:

Super deluxe CD set is now available to pre order on Amazone UK. Just ordered mine. They're listing it at £64.99 but if the price drops they charge you the lower price.

I hear it went up last night at just over a tenner cheaper.

Reply #427 posted 09/12/19 3:26am

JorisE73

Ordered teh 5CD + DVD set from Amazon and expect the price to drop a bit nearing the release.

Reply #428 posted 09/12/19 4:48am

RODSERLING

JorisE73 said:

Ordered teh 5CD + DVD set from Amazon and expect the price to drop a bit nearing the release.



If the dvd is not remasterized, I can't see the 5cd+1 dvd cost more than 40 dollars.
More than 50$ would be insane
Reply #429 posted 09/12/19 5:10am

JorisE73

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:

Ordered teh 5CD + DVD set from Amazon and expect the price to drop a bit nearing the release.

If the dvd is not remasterized, I can't see the 5cd+1 dvd cost more than 40 dollars. More than 50$ would be insane


It is insane yes, but WB knows full well that fans are willing to pay an arm and a leg for these kind of sets, hell, people on here even claimed to pay insane amounts of money if a superdeluxe boxset would be released asap. so who can blame them for asking what fans tell them they will are willing to pay?

Reply #430 posted 09/12/19 5:16am

DaveT

TheEnglishGent said:

Super deluxe CD set is now available to pre order on Amazone UK. Just ordered mine. They're listing it at £64.99 but if the price drops they charge you the lower price.


Could you share a link buddy? ... just searched Amazon UK and couldn't find it ...

www.filmsfilmsfilms.co.uk - The internet's best movie site!
Reply #431 posted 09/12/19 5:26am

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:

Ordered teh 5CD + DVD set from Amazon and expect the price to drop a bit nearing the release.

If the dvd is not remasterized

.

Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.

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Reply #432 posted 09/12/19 5:27am

BartVanHemelen

Someone with opinions on the remastering of the album (based on the announcement): https://www.analogplanet....ember-29th

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Reply #433 posted 09/12/19 5:35am

TheEnglishGent

DaveT said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Super deluxe CD set is now available to pre order on Amazone UK. Just ordered mine. They're listing it at £64.99 but if the price drops they charge you the lower price.


Could you share a link buddy? ... just searched Amazon UK and couldn't find it ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...amp;sr=1-1

RIP sad
Reply #434 posted 09/12/19 5:50am

TheEnglishGent

BartVanHemelen said:

Someone with opinions on the remastering of the album (based on the announcement): https://www.analogplanet....ember-29th

Something in that article makes no sense to me, but maybe I have misunderstood something?


From the article :

With Bernie Grundman remastering at 192/24 bit and cutting lacquers we can expect good sound but as long as the tapes were there why not just cut the original from the goddamned tapes instead of from files? Was there a problem with the original master tape of 1999 that required cutting from digital files?
Read more at https://www.analogplanet....yQQHusB.99


Surely the 192/24 digital master was created from the original master tapes, then the digital files had the remastering work done and then the vinyl lacquers were created from that? I don't see much of a problem with this myself.

If the lacquere was created straight from the original tapes, wouldn't that just be exactly what we have already and more of a re-pressing than a remaster? Even if Bernie only had digital masters to work on becasue the tapes were no good, wouldn't those masters have been digitised from the tapes in the first instance?



RIP sad
Reply #435 posted 09/12/19 6:12am

BartVanHemelen

All the versions on Amazon UK:

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/...07XPR3WXH/

.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/...07XPL65PQ/

.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/...07XKW23LD/

.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/...07XJRJ7HZ/

.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/...07XPRHYNN/

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/...7XKW23LJ/

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Also, later today SuperDeluxeEdition has an interview with Michael Howe about the bonus tracks.

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[Edited 9/12/19 6:16am]

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Reply #436 posted 09/12/19 6:15am

BartVanHemelen

TheEnglishGent said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Someone with opinions on the remastering of the album (based on the announcement): https://www.analogplanet....ember-29th

Something in that article makes no sense to me, but maybe I have misunderstood something?


From the article :

With Bernie Grundman remastering at 192/24 bit and cutting lacquers we can expect good sound but as long as the tapes were there why not just cut the original from the goddamned tapes instead of from files? Was there a problem with the original master tape of 1999 that required cutting from digital files?
Read more at https://www.analogplanet....yQQHusB.99


Surely the 192/24 digital master was created from the original master tapes, then the digital files had the remastering work done and then the vinyl lacquers were created from that? I don't see much of a problem with this myself.

If the lacquere was created straight from the original tapes, wouldn't that just be exactly what we have already and more of a re-pressing than a remaster? Even if Bernie only had digital masters to work on becasue the tapes were no good, wouldn't those masters have been digitised from the tapes in the first instance?



.

AFAIK a digital master is already a master of its own, i.e. someone already applied filters etc. (unless it was a flat master). So Bernie has potentially "inferior" sources to work with.

.

Also, every master is different, even if you use the same source. Read http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=1612 .

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Reply #437 posted 09/12/19 6:27am

TheEnglishGent

BartVanHemelen said:

TheEnglishGent said:


Surely the 192/24 digital master was created from the original master tapes, then the digital files had the remastering work done and then the vinyl lacquers were created from that? I don't see much of a problem with this myself.

If the lacquere was created straight from the original tapes, wouldn't that just be exactly what we have already and more of a re-pressing than a remaster? Even if Bernie only had digital masters to work on becasue the tapes were no good, wouldn't those masters have been digitised from the tapes in the first instance?



.

AFAIK a digital master is already a master of its own, i.e. someone already applied filters etc. (unless it was a flat master). So Bernie has potentially "inferior" sources to work with.

.

Also, every master is different, even if you use the same source. Read http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=1612 .


Thanks, the article was interesting. So it seems now the question is just, did Bernie produce the 192k master from the original tapes, or is did he work from somebidy else's digital master?

I don't really have a preference one way or another so long as we get a good remaster.

[Edited 9/12/19 6:28am]

RIP sad
Reply #438 posted 09/12/19 6:28am

BartVanHemelen

Most likely the Amazon UK page for the Super Deluxe Vinyl set is going to be https://www.amazon.co.uk/...07XPRD4S4/ , but right now there isn't much there.

.

I'm basing it on the ASIN (= the part after the "/dp/" in the URL), which is often the same accross all Amazon stores.

.

Case in point, there are the Amazon USA links for all the versions, where I've simply taken the Amazon UK links and replaced amazon.co.uk with amazon.com:

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https://www.amazon.com/19...07XKW23LD/
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https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPRD4S4/
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https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPR3WXH/
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https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPL65PQ/
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https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPRHYNN/
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https://www.amazon.com/19...07XKW23LJ/

.

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Amazon Canada:

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https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XKW23LD/
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https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPRD4S4/
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https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPR3WXH/
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https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPL65PQ/
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https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPRHYNN/
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https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XKW23LJ/

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Amazon France:

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https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XKW23LD/
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https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPRD4S4/
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https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPR3WXH/
.

https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPL65PQ/
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https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPRHYNN/
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https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XKW23LJ/

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Amazon Germany:

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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XKW23LD/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPRD4S4/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPR3WXH/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPL65PQ/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPRHYNN/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XKW23LJ/

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etc.

[Edited 9/12/19 6:31am]

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Reply #439 posted 09/12/19 6:31am

jaypotton

I wonder if this will sell better than Originals?

Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #440 posted 09/12/19 8:09am

radicalrojo

the two live renditions of "1999," just released on Spotify and YouTube!!!

https://www.youtube.com/w...dkRI514KSI

https://open.spotify.com/track/1c2Pp5LtfUdqkm9LuKBDs2?si=BcSberzAQ0qRt5-g9vjaFQ

Reply #441 posted 09/12/19 8:17am

feeluupp

radicalrojo said:

the two live renditions of "1999," just released on Spotify and YouTube!!!

https://www.youtube.com/w...dkRI514KSI

https://open.spotify.com/track/1c2Pp5LtfUdqkm9LuKBDs2?si=BcSberzAQ0qRt5-g9vjaFQ

Looks like they didn't bother to enhance the quality at all.

Reply #442 posted 09/12/19 8:19am

soladeo1

The Spotify Masonic Lodge version on Spotify is FONKY!!!!!!!!!

That chicken scratch guitar in the middle...LAWD HAVE MERCY....

Reply #443 posted 09/12/19 8:31am

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

BartVanHemelen said:

Most likely the Amazon UK page for the Super Deluxe Vinyl set is going to be https://www.amazon.co.uk/...07XPRD4S4/ , but right now there isn't much there.

.

I'm basing it on the ASIN (= the part after the "/dp/" in the URL), which is often the same accross all Amazon stores.

.

Case in point, there are the Amazon USA links for all the versions, where I've simply taken the Amazon UK links and replaced amazon.co.uk with amazon.com:

.

https://www.amazon.com/19...07XKW23LD/
.

https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPRD4S4/
.

https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPR3WXH/
.

https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPL65PQ/
.

https://www.amazon.com/19...07XPRHYNN/
.

https://www.amazon.com/19...07XKW23LJ/

.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

.

Amazon Canada:

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https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XKW23LD/
.

https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPRD4S4/
.

https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPR3WXH/
.

https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPL65PQ/
.

https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XPRHYNN/
.

https://www.amazon.ca/199...07XKW23LJ/

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--------------------------------------------------------------------

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Amazon France:

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https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XKW23LD/
.

https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPRD4S4/
.

https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPR3WXH/
.

https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPL65PQ/
.

https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XPRHYNN/
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https://www.amazon.fr/199...07XKW23LJ/

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Amazon Germany:

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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XKW23LD/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPRD4S4/
.

https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPR3WXH/
.

https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPL65PQ/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XPRHYNN/
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https://www.amazon.de/199...07XKW23LJ/

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etc.

[Edited 9/12/19 6:31am]


Thank you for your time and effort with all those Amazon links.

Edmonton, AB - canada
Mod Goddess of the SNIP & BAN Making Moves - OF4S
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #444 posted 09/12/19 8:41am

andrewm7

so happy that this has come to pass! Hopefully there will be more like this!!! I’ll be buying a copy of each!! Super exCITED at the prospect of a really high quality 1999 show DVD and re-arrange
Reply #445 posted 09/12/19 8:55am

soladeo1

andrewm7 said:

so happy that this has come to pass! Hopefully there will be more like this!!! I’ll be buying a copy of each!! Super exCITED at the prospect of a really high quality 1999 show DVD and re-arrange

What does Rearrange sound like???

Reply #446 posted 09/12/19 8:55am

ChocolateBox3121

soladeo1 said:

The Spotify Masonic Lodge version on Spotify is FONKY!!!!!!!!!

That chicken scratch guitar in the middle...LAWD HAVE MERCY....

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #447 posted 09/12/19 8:59am

NewpowerScarfo

I see Prince YouTube page just released the 8 minute concert version of 1999 that this may be included in the upcoming 1999 Super Deluxe Edition
Reply #448 posted 09/12/19 9:20am

andrewm7

soladeo1 said:

 



andrewm7 said:


so happy that this has come to pass! Hopefully there will be more like this!!! I’ll be buying a copy of each!! Super exCITED at the prospect of a really high quality 1999 show DVD and re-arrange

 


 


What does Rearrange sound like???


I cannot wait to find out! I have only ever heard it described by someone else lol
Reply #449 posted 09/12/19 9:54am

Se7en

It'll be the CD Deluxe for me. The LP is just too much damn money!

Reply #450 posted 09/12/19 10:04am

KlyphIsBackAgain

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

Reply #451 posted 09/12/19 10:11am

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

Se7en said:

It'll be the CD Deluxe for me. The LP is just too much damn money!



It will cost more money when folks buy the stuff then turn around and put them on eBay and other sites selling for mega bux more.

Edmonton, AB - canada
Mod Goddess of the SNIP & BAN Making Moves - OF4S
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #452 posted 09/12/19 10:11am

KlyphIsBackAgain

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

[Already a thread on that, go see snip - luv4u]

Reply #453 posted 09/12/19 10:20am

Strive

1999 from the Detroit show is on Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/...NT3RGk0TxD

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #454 posted 09/12/19 10:23am

TheFreakerFantastic

jjam said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Super deluxe CD set is now available to pre order on Amazone UK. Just ordered mine. They're listing it at £64.99 but if the price drops they charge you the lower price.

I hear it went up last night at just over a tenner cheaper.

Yes it did, yesterday it was listed as 54.99, should have pre-ordered it then but I hoped it might actually go down! Maybe it will..

Reply #455 posted 09/12/19 10:50am

SoulAlive

radicalrojo said:

the two live renditions of "1999," just released on Spotify and YouTube!!!


 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udkRI514KSI


 


https://open.spotify.com/track/1c2Pp5LtfUdqkm9LuKBDs2?si=BcSberzAQ0qRt5-g9vjaFQ


 


 



This is great!
Reply #456 posted 09/12/19 10:59am

AvocadosMax

On the 15th of November, Prince is gonna snap his fingers, and half of the music industry will cease to exist
Reply #457 posted 09/12/19 10:59am

AvocadosMax

luv4u said:

 



Se7en said:


It'll be the CD Deluxe for me. The LP is just too much damn money!





It will cost more money when folks buy the stuff then turn around and put them on eBay and other sites selling for mega bux more.  


FACTS
Reply #458 posted 09/12/19 11:05am

GiggityGoo

soladeo1 said:

GiggityGoo said:

Oh, I am so glad to hear the album's getting remastered. Prince's 80s output has SUUUUUCKED sound-wise on CD. I'm hopeful that any work they eventually do on "Sign 'O' The Times" (my favorite) will open up the soundscape in new ways I haven't been able to hear before.

.

Anyone here a fan of XTC and/or Yes? If so, have you gotten the Steven Wilson remix sets of any of their albums? HOLY CRAP, are they spectacular. Wilson has a magician's touch with bringing out the best, clearest sound from every multi-track. He's a prolific musician himself, and I think that helps him with balancing the instrumentation and vocals.

.

Also, whoever did the Japanese remasters of Queen's discography should get a Nobel prizel. Even in my car stereo, with all the road noise, the songs sound brighter and more expansive than they ever did before.

.

So I'm hoping that the Estate gets someone who knows what they're doing to handle the remastering. It's not just bumping up the volume... it's important to go back to the original tapes (multi-tracks if you can get them!) and do everything from the ground up.

HUGE XTX fan here. My heavens, SKYLARKING and ORANGES AND LEMONS!!

Are you a fan of Jellyfish???

But I agree, its criminal that an artist as huge and as well-regarded as Prince has his Classic Era stuff out there sounding so poorly...

Oh man, Jellyfish is one of my favorite bands of the 90s. So sad they fell apart, but at least they gave us two perfect pop masterpieces.

.

Anyone who is a fan of Queen should get "Spilt Milk" right now. RIGHT NOW!!!

Reply #459 posted 09/12/19 11:06am

TheEnglishGent

TheFreakerFantastic said:

jjam said:

I hear it went up last night at just over a tenner cheaper.

Yes it did, yesterday it was listed as 54.99, should have pre-ordered it then but I hoped it might actually go down! Maybe it will..


You should have clicked it there and then. If it goes down, Amazon charge you the lower price anyway.

RIP sad
Reply #460 posted 09/12/19 11:06am

fishwillbite

jjhunsecker said:

Any word on who is doing the remastering ? Bernie Grundman perhaps ?

Good question!

PIPS! Eurgh...
Reply #461 posted 09/12/19 11:06am

GiggityGoo

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

Reply #462 posted 09/12/19 11:09am

bobgeorge77

SoulAlive said:

radicalrojo said:

the two live renditions of "1999," just released on Spotify and YouTube!!!

https://www.youtube.com/w...dkRI514KSI

https://open.spotify.com/...t5-g9vjaFQ

This is great!

Thanks 4 this! I just found it on Amazon Music 2!!!! music music

Reply #463 posted 09/12/19 11:12am

4anothertime

Nice! Definitely looking forward to this!

I guess heaven really is keeping score...the cosmos are right handed and I am sucker for that right hook.
Reply #464 posted 09/12/19 11:20am

AvocadosMax

https://i.imgur.com/6FqVRNv_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium


Underneath “Artists releasing tomorrow,” it shows PRINCE. Estate must be dropping something. Probably How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore
Reply #465 posted 09/12/19 11:23am

ndx36

fishwillbite said:

jjhunsecker said:

Any word on who is doing the remastering ? Bernie Grundman perhaps ?

Good question!

According to this article it is Bernie

https://www.superdeluxeed...-material/

Reply #466 posted 09/12/19 11:44am

TrcikyChristopher

AvocadosMax said:

https://i.imgur.com/6FqVR...ity=medium Underneath “Artists releasing tomorrow,” it shows PRINCE. Estate must be dropping something. Probably How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore

Or "The Versace Experience" on digital services and stores.

Reply #467 posted 09/12/19 12:02pm

Romeoblu

bobgeorge77 said:

 



SoulAlive said:


radicalrojo said:

the two live renditions of "1999," just released on Spotify and YouTube!!!


 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udkRI514KSI


 


https://open.spotify.com/track/1c2Pp5LtfUdqkm9LuKBDs2?si=BcSberzAQ0qRt5-g9vjaFQ


 


 



This is great!

Thanks 4 this! I just found it on Amazon Music 2!!!!  music music



It sounds great and is a fantastic performance.
Reply #468 posted 09/12/19 12:28pm

purplethunder3121

dancing jig

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
Reply #469 posted 09/12/19 12:58pm

fishwillbite

ndx36 said:

fishwillbite said:

Good question!

According to this article it is Bernie

https://www.superdeluxeed...-material/

Thanks so much, ndx, a great article and good to know Bernie is still at the helm of the remasters.

PIPS! Eurgh...
Reply #470 posted 09/12/19 12:59pm

NME01

Wow.
After watching that YouTube footage I am floored.

He’s on another level.

I cannot wait to watch Automatic from this set.
Reply #471 posted 09/12/19 1:40pm

feeluupp

Some photos from the upcoming release:

Reply #472 posted 09/12/19 1:42pm

BartVanHemelen

Pictures of the various sets: https://www.facebook.com/...1483335549

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #473 posted 09/12/19 1:45pm

SoulAlive

feeluupp said:

Some photos from the upcoming release:

love

Reply #474 posted 09/12/19 2:07pm

Doalwa

SoulAlive said:

 



feeluupp said:


Some photos from the upcoming release:


 


 


 




 


love   



Just preordered it on Amazon, can’t wait!
Reply #475 posted 09/12/19 2:10pm

IstenSzek

so how and where did they come up with "35 previously unreleased tracks from prince's legendary vault" ?



CD3/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)



CD4/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)

that's 24. so where are the other 11 ?

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #476 posted 09/12/19 2:25pm

TwiliteKid

IstenSzek said:

so how and where did they come up with "35 previously unreleased tracks from prince's legendary vault" ?



CD3/LP5&6 (Vault Tracks Pt 1, recorded between November 1981 and April 1982)
01 Feel U Up
02 Irresistible Bitch
03 Money Don’t Grow On Trees
04 Vagina
05 Rearrange
06 Bold Generation
07 Colleen
08 International Lover (Take 1) [Live In Studio]
09 Turn It Up
10 You’re All I Want
11 Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
12 If It’ll Make U Happy
13 How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)



CD4/LP7&8 (Vault Tracks Pt 2, recorded between April 1982 and January 1983)
01 Possessed (1982 Version)
02 Delirious (Full Length)
03 Purple Music
04 Yah, You Know
05 Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)
06 No Call U
07 Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got
08 Do Yourself A Favor
09 Don’t Let Him Fool Ya
10 Teacher, Teacher
11 Lady Cab Driver / I Wanna Be Your Lover / Little Red Corvette (Tour Demo)

that's 24. so where are the other 11 ?

Moonbeam Levels has been released, so I think they're counting the 12 tracks from the Detroit show. Bit misleading.

Reply #477 posted 09/12/19 2:25pm

IstenSzek

never mind smile





[Edited 9/12/19 14:27pm]

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #478 posted 09/12/19 2:26pm

BartVanHemelen

IstenSzek said:

so how and where did they come up with "35 previously unreleased tracks from prince's legendary vault" ?

.

I'm assuming the 23 unreleased vault tracks (Moonbeam Levels has been previously released) + the concert recording.

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It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #479 posted 09/12/19 2:26pm

IstenSzek

TwiliteKid said:

that's 24. so where are the other 11 ?

Moonbeam Levels has been released, so I think they're counting the 12 tracks from the Detroit show. Bit misleading.


ooh, good catch! a bit misleading, indeed. but not an outright lie, i guess lol


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #480 posted 09/12/19 2:28pm

IstenSzek

BartVanHemelen said:

IstenSzek said:

so how and where did they come up with "35 previously unreleased tracks from prince's legendary vault" ?

.

I'm assuming the 23 unreleased vault tracks (Moonbeam Levels has been previously released) + the concert recording.


indeed, i forgot about "moonbeam levels" being officially released already.

after 20 years of living with it as an outtake, it slipped my mind smile


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #481 posted 09/12/19 3:06pm

Moonbeam

IstenSzek said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


 



IstenSzek said:


so how and where did they come up with "35 previously unreleased tracks from prince's legendary vault" ?


 



.


I'm assuming the 23 unreleased vault tracks (Moonbeam Levels has been previously released) + the concert recording.




indeed, i forgot about "moonbeam levels" being officially released already.

after 20 years of living with it as an outtake, it slipped my mind smile




It’s listed as being 18 seconds longer than what was released on 4Ever, so a slightly extended version at least.
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Reply #482 posted 09/12/19 3:07pm

djThunderfunk

Just got an email from the official Prince store. It says "10CD/1DVD", but when you click on the link the listing is the same as here, "5CD/1DVD".

Dammit! I got excited for a minute thinking there was an even bigger version. lol razz

Screenshot-1299.png

[Edited 9/12/19 15:11pm]

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #483 posted 09/12/19 4:08pm

RODSERLING

BartVanHemelen said:

 



RODSERLING said:


JorisE73 said:

Ordered teh 5CD + DVD set from Amazon and expect the price to drop a bit nearing the release.



If the dvd is not remasterized

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Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.



Of course it s a word.
If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized.
The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source.
.
I hope I m wrong
Reply #484 posted 09/12/19 4:18pm

djThunderfunk

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #485 posted 09/12/19 4:19pm

seanski

jfenster said:

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl

Bullmoose.com has $59.97 cds and $224.98 for vinyl. The best price I've seen so far. biggrin

Reply #486 posted 09/12/19 4:21pm

RODSERLING

jaypotton said:

I wonder if this will sell better than Originals?

Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.


1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year.
.
If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure.
.
But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming.
.
If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide.
.
For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only.
.
Reply #487 posted 09/12/19 4:27pm

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

jaypotton said:
I wonder if this will sell better than Originals? Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.
1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .

1999 is certified 4x Platinum in USA alone... The total sales for 1999 are 7 million world wide.

Reply #488 posted 09/12/19 4:27pm

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

jaypotton said:
I wonder if this will sell better than Originals? Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.
1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .

Why do you keep stating your opinion as fact. It's so annoying. Your track record is shit anyway. Haven't you learnt your lesson?

Reply #489 posted 09/12/19 4:34pm

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.

Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

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Reply #490 posted 09/12/19 4:36pm

feeluupp

pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:

jaypotton said: 1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .

Why do you keep stating your opinion as fact. It's so annoying. Your track record is shit anyway. Haven't you learnt your lesson?

.

[Edited 9/12/19 17:20pm]

Reply #491 posted 09/12/19 4:37pm

rdhull

pricetag said:

 



RODSERLING said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.



Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

I love how the two people above, who both got it so wrong with this release, remain the most active in this thread. AND they're still speaking as if their opinions mean something. Learn some humility FFS. Or do you both have some frickin' personality defect? I know I've lost, though, because you both live for this shit.




lol
c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #492 posted 09/12/19 4:41pm

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.

Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

It's not remastered, didn't you see what the Prince YoutTube channel posted today, the first video of 1999 Houston concert from the deluxe DVD.

Reply #493 posted 09/12/19 4:45pm

Moonbeam

The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥
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Reply #494 posted 09/12/19 4:47pm

OnlyNDaUsa

I would say it is 14 unreleased songs and more than one was revamped into something that was released.


If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #495 posted 09/12/19 4:47pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Moonbeam said:

The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥

And it is not the one from City Lights! they did it right!

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #496 posted 09/12/19 4:57pm

feeluupp

Moonbeam said:

The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥

The sound quality is excellent on that one.

Reply #497 posted 09/12/19 5:56pm

PurpleMouse88

RODSERLING said:

Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

The term you are referring to is "remastered", and I don't think it means what you think it means. remastering isn't some magical process that automatically makes any video source look amazing. no matter what processes are applied to improve it, a video can only look as good as whatever highest quality source looks like.

The Bad Wembley show WAS remastered. The VHS tape from which it was sourced was sent to the same lab that restored the NASA moon landing footage, but being as it was a VHS tape, it can only look so good.

Not being from a high quality source has nothing to do with whether or not something is remastered. You can't polish a turd if that's all there is to work with.

Reply #498 posted 09/12/19 6:03pm

Doozer

djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.



I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.
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Reply #499 posted 09/12/19 6:08pm

jstar69

feeluupp said:

 



Moonbeam said:


The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥

 


The sound quality is excellent on that one.



Sound is fabulous
[Edited 9/12/19 18:09pm]
Reply #500 posted 09/12/19 6:18pm

OnlyNDaUsa

Doozer said:

djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.

Superdeeduper deluxeremasterizedized Diamond Elite Plus!

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #501 posted 09/12/19 6:53pm

OnlyNDaUsa

The first 2 songs I am going to listen to are....


If It’ll Make U Happy
How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)

after that I may go on to "cd 4" and then back to "cd 3"

Frankly I am mostly intrested in the vault cds and the main album.

I will listen to the live CD some too and maybe once to the edits... and I will watch the DVD a few times....


If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #502 posted 09/12/19 7:05pm

rdhull

OnlyNDaUsa said:

The first 2 songs I am going to listen to are....


If It’ll Make U Happy
How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)

after that I may go on to "cd 4" and then back to "cd 3"

Frankly I am mostly intrested in the vault cds and the main album.

I will listen to the live CD some too and maybe once to the edits... and I will watch the DVD a few times....


duly noted

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #503 posted 09/12/19 7:07pm

206Michelle

feeluupp said:

Some photos from the upcoming release:


 


 















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It looks fantastic! I don’t usually think about my Christmas list this early, but this is item number one on my Christmas list!
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #504 posted 09/12/19 8:51pm

djThunderfunk

Doozer said:

djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.


falloff lol lol lol

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #505 posted 09/12/19 9:00pm

Moonbeam

That live video! My god! The hunger!
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Reply #506 posted 09/12/19 10:09pm

RODSERLING

PurpleMouse88 said:

 



RODSERLING said:


Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

 


The term you are referring to is "remastered", and I don't think it means what you think it means. remastering isn't some magical process that automatically makes any video source look amazing. no matter what processes are applied to improve it, a video can only look as good as whatever highest quality source looks like.


 


The Bad Wembley show WAS remastered. The VHS tape from which it was sourced was sent to the same lab that restored the NASA moon landing footage, but being as it was a VHS tape, it can only look so good.


 


Not being from a high quality source has nothing to do with whether or not something is remastered. You can't polish a turd if that's all there is to work with.



No, you can't remaster something without the original master I m sorry.
So neither OR deluxe nor Bad or the moon landing were remastered.
.
The tapes exist for Bad Wembley but they didn't locate it/didn't want to buy it.
By the way, it the 1999 live looks like a VHS, I doubt they sell it 60 bucks.
.
The original footage of the moon landing was destroyed/lost around 2006 according to the NASA.
So once again the moon landing wasn't remastered but "improved" from a second copy.
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[Edited 9/12/19 22:14pm]
Reply #507 posted 09/12/19 10:18pm

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

 



RODSERLING said:


jaypotton said:
I wonder if this will sell better than Originals? Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.

1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .

 


1999 is certified 4x Platinum in USA alone... The total sales for 1999 are 7 million world wide.



6 millions, including 4.6 m in the US
Reply #508 posted 09/12/19 10:28pm

RODSERLING

Ouch.
The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure.
Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.
Reply #509 posted 09/12/19 11:55pm

pricetag

RODSERLING said:

Ouch.
The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure.
Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.

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Reply #510 posted 09/13/19 12:57am

TheEnglishGent

Doozer said:

djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.

spit clapping

RIP sad
Reply #511 posted 09/13/19 2:46am

jaawwnn

pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:
Ouch. The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure. Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.
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Reply #512 posted 09/13/19 3:06am

jaawwnn

Me watching that 1999 live video


Reply #513 posted 09/13/19 4:01am

Vannormal

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Just watched the 8:08 minuts version of '1999' from the DVD on ...

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https://youtu.be/udkRI514KSI

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"On December 29, 1982, Prince was six weeks into his 1999 Tour and on the cusp of becoming a global superstar. Filmed at the Summit in Houston, the entire performance will be available on DVD as part of the #Prince1999 Super Deluxe Edition."

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #514 posted 09/13/19 4:36am

Moonbeam

I wonder whether further tracks will be released before the whole set as was done with PR Deluxe. It was exciting to know that every 2 weeks, some new song would appear.
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Reply #515 posted 09/13/19 5:44am

djThunderfunk

RODSERLING said:

Ouch. The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure. Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.


If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD. lol

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #516 posted 09/13/19 6:00am

Vannormal

djThunderfunk said:

RODSERLING said:

Ouch. The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure. Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.


If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD. lol

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Exactly ! ! !

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And by the way, Prince just filmed most of his show for own personal use.

IF he had the intention of releasing stuff, he would've used better equipment and crew, obviously.

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Be happy we have these VHS video quality of these 36/37 year old concerts, nearly ALL OF HIS LIVE SHOWS AND REHEARSALS are filmed. Isn't that already amazing in the first place ?!

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I'm already happy if we get to see 1% of it all !

Be happy too. smile

Peace.

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #517 posted 09/13/19 6:16am

RODSERLING

djThunderfunk said:

 



RODSERLING said:


Ouch. The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure. Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.


If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD. lol



Not if you have the original tapes.
What you put on VHS are the original tapes, the original source.
.
There are many HD releases of concert filmed in the 60's/70's.
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So if you believe that none of 1999 Prince concert were filmed on tapes, including this one, that's your choice.
.
WB just didn't locate the tapes, or didn't bother to remaster them.
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Reply #518 posted 09/13/19 6:32am

BartVanHemelen

Vannormal said:

djThunderfunk said:


If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD. lol

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Exactly ! ! !

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And by the way, Prince just filmed most of his show for own personal use.

IF he had the intention of releasing stuff, he would've used better equipment and crew, obviously.

.

This is a PRO shot show with multiple cameras. This was obviously filmed for some kind of release, and thus at the time there must have been a professional recording of it.

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #519 posted 09/13/19 6:34am

djThunderfunk

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:


If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD. lol

Not if you have the original tapes. What you put on VHS are the original tapes, the original source. . There are many HD releases of concert filmed in the 60's/70's. . So if you believe that none of 1999 Prince concert were filmed on tapes, including this one, that's your choice. . WB just didn't locate the tapes, or didn't bother to remaster them. .


"Orignal tapes"? What kind of "original tapes" are you talking about? AFAIK, the "original tapes" ARE VHS. The reason that many concerts filmed in the 60s & 70s can be remastered in HD, is because they were FILMED... on FILM. Film is higher resolution than VHS and perfect for HD remaster. Shows that were originally recorded on VHS, like most of Prince's, will never, ever have an HD look. The reason Prince was able to film all of his shows, is because of the low expense of recording with VHS. Filming every show on FILM would have been too expensive, even for Prince.





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Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #520 posted 09/13/19 6:34am

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

There are many HD releases of concert filmed in the 60's/70's. .

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Because they were filmed ON FILM. Holy crap, do we need to go through this nonsense over and over again?

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Reply #521 posted 09/13/19 6:40am

Vannormal

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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?

They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...

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I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,

not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.

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Sort of a misser ?

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Money ?

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #522 posted 09/13/19 6:45am

IstenSzek

Vannormal said:

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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?

They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...

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I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,

not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.

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Sort of a misser ?

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Money ?

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yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses confused

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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #523 posted 09/13/19 7:05am

RODSERLING

BartVanHemelen said:

 



RODSERLING said:



There are many HD releases of concert filmed in the 60's/70's. .

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Because they were filmed ON FILM. Holy crap, do we need to go through this nonsense over and over again?


I know very well that for HD you have to shoot on film.
To believe that Prince never shoot his concerts of the era on film is utter nonsense.
[Edited 9/13/19 7:06am]
Reply #524 posted 09/13/19 7:08am

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Because they were filmed ON FILM. Holy crap, do we need to go through this nonsense over and over again?

I know very well that for HD you have to shoot on film.

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No you don't.

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To believe that Prince never shoot his concerts of the era on film is utter nonsense.

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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[Edited 9/13/19 7:21am]

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Reply #525 posted 09/13/19 7:09am

BartVanHemelen

An expanded version of the list of Amazon links I posted previously:

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Amazon USA:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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Amazon UK:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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Amazon Canada:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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Amazon France:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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Amazon Germany:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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Amazon Italy:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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Amazon Spain:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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Reply #526 posted 09/13/19 7:17am

BartVanHemelen

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Reply #527 posted 09/13/19 8:09am

Astasheiks

Moonbeam said:

This gives me hope that it will happen as Militant has come through before.

Hope I don't get crapped on for this, but I recently re-did my all time favorite albums list and wrote about the personal impact each of the top 25 had on me. 1999 is my all-time favorite, so needless to say, I'd be incredibly excited if this came to be. Here's what I wrote:

#1: Prince - 1999 (1982)

Ordering this top 25 has been very difficult. I've actually changed the order of the remaining albums a few times, making this exercise feel a bit like Album Survivor. That said, there was never any doubt that 1999 would be my #1. The way it has imprinted itself on my soul blows everything else away.

When I first heard Prince in 1989, I encountered some of his earlier singles through music videos during days-long MTV video marathons where they would play several videos from tons of artists. In this way I discovered the magic of songs like "When Doves Cry", "Let's Go Crazy", "Raspberry Beret", "Kiss", "U Got the Look", and "Alphabet St.". But it was "1999" that hooked me. The opening fanfare of the synths immediately grabbed my attention, soon joined by that first Earth-shattering rumble of the Linn 1 drum machine, and then exploded into a funk bonanza with the delectable bass and guitar licks. The way it wedded the neon of synths with the irresistible gravitational pull of funk left me completely mesmerised, connecting to the deepest part of me. It sounded so massive, an unconquerable force of nature that unleashed unfathomable joy and perpetual motion all at once, tapping into some unlocked quintessence of me later joined by The Gap Band's "You Dropped a Bomb on Me" and Stevie Wonder's "My Eyes Don't Cry".

I started to buy music that year after my parents bought me a cassette player. I quickly bought a BackTrax cassette single featuring "1999" and "Little Red Corvette", another herculean song which used its synths so differently, ebbing and flowing with cinematic warmth before kicking into pop/rock immortality. I played it over and over until I eventually bought a cassette of the whole album, and thus began my decades-long obsession with this album. Actually, the word "album" doesn't cut it, as 1999 feels like an entire world unto itself. Indeed, the songs felt like they were conceived or hatched or unearthed in an isolated lab, cracking open new dimensions that melded sounds and images and all sorts of emotions into a sort of primal omnipresence.

Every single song ingrained itself into my every fiber. I discovered with delight that "1999" offered even more thrills than the sub 4-minute single version I knew and loved, opening with a robotic god-like voice announcing its desire for the listener to have fun before the rumbles of the Linn 1 deliver just that, activating the galactic motion of the thing for over 6 minutes of extended revelry. "Little Red Corvette" was improved with its extended pyrotechnics as well, while "Delirious" was an immediate hit for me with its squeaking synths amplifying a delightful zaniness. "Let's Pretend We're Married" paired Hi-NRG relentlessness with wanton desire in pulsating bursts of megavoltage. "D.M.S.R." was a call to arms for revellers of all sorts, with sassy, brassy synths prancing atop lethal slap bass licks guaranteed to shake and quake a crowd. The synths in "Automatic" were so singularly captivating, transmitting an alien glow equal parts eerie and irresistible. Both "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)", with its fractured nightmarish magma of scalding synths, frenzied Linn drum patterns, and primordial shrieks as well as "Free" with its anthemic fireworks ignited my emotions. "Lady Cab Driver" blended blistering rock volcanism with thumping funk rhythms, and "All the Critics Love U in New York" convulsed with such a galvanizing freakiness that my face contorted inexorably to the rhythm of its hyperfunkplasma. And the swansong ballad "International Lover" ended the voyage with decadent verve.

1999 engaged me on all levels - it sparked my imagination, burned deep within my soul, and willed me to dance as if by remote control. The purple neon futuresynth soundscape that ties the album together saw my awestruck wonder extend to seemingly limitless heights. Most of the songs stretched to 6, 7, 8, or 9 minutes, but I felt they could go on forever, drowning each corner of my being in succulent splashes of serotonin. More than that, 1999 emboldened me to remain true to myself. In Prince, I had found a hero - this 5'3" titan of a man raised his freak flag so unapologetically high for all to see. At 10 years old, I had begun to feel like I didn't quite fit in, but 1999 helped to instill within me an insistence that I would not, could not change who I was at my core. If Prince could overcome the family troubles that saw him leave home at 12 as well as God-knows-what harassment due to his race, height, and comfort with his feminine side to release something so unrelentingly badass, I could face my troubles headfirst as well. In this way I felt not only permission, but a DUTY to be myself when I played the album. I had a very strong sense of who I was, and with 1999 I had a reliable way to reconnect with my sense of self when times got hard. If I needed confidence, I could blast "1999" or "D.M.S.R." to pep myself up. When I felt heartbreak or loneliness, I could lose myself in the guttural wails of "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)" to exorcise those demons. If I felt like I was too weird for the world, I could play "Automatic" or "All the Critics Love U in New York" and feel encouraged to not only accept, but celebrate the quirks that made me… me.

I became a bit of a "purple evangelist", unable to help myself from proselytising about the wonders of Prince and his music. I've bought dozens of copies of 1999 over the years, both for myself and as gifts to others, even strangers who overheard it playing at a drive-thru window. It became a part of my identity, and my resultant Prince fandom changed my life in major ways, introducing me to dozens of friends, and eventually, the love of my life. I wouldn't have met my wife Tracy without Prince. I wouldn't have moved to Australia and started my career as a university academic without Prince. I wouldn't have my son without Prince. In Prince, I found not only an identity to help guide me throughout my childhood and adolescence, but a unique map to my wife, my new home country, and an entirely new life for me. And it was the opening rumble of "1999" that opened the door.

As such, as an album 1999 is the Alpha and the Omega for me. It was on 1999 that the peak of Prince's hunger met the peak of his vision and the peak of his ambition, creating the most vibrant soundscape of any album ever made. It is a 70 minute symphony of neon purple lasers illuminating a pitch black sky that will thrill and amaze me until the day I die. The wails of "Something in the Water" still go right through my core, that drum machine rumble in "1999" still moves with seismic thunder, the alien synthscape of "Automatic" still leaves me breathless, the twisted funk of "All the Critics in New York" still ignites wild fits of dancing in me, the propulsion of "Let's Pretend We're Married" still inhabits me with each pulse, the punishing bass and sassy synth of "D.M.S.R." still get me moving thousands of listens later.

It creates the most vivid pictures in my mind. I mean look at those worlds on the cover art that he drew! Prince made those worlds come to life in such a visual, visceral way. The ladder in the E leading up to the red staircase that climbs into the clouds in particular is so striking. And the guy isn't climbing the stairs as much as he is GROOVING his way up them. If I could think of one image of what Prince's music can do, it would be this. If "everybody's looking for the ladder" as Prince would later sing, I found mine in 1999.

Top 3 songs:

"Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)"
"1999"
"All the Critics Love U in New York"

Full review here

Dude that is some article you wrote! biggrin razz cool woot! music headbang yeahthat

Reply #528 posted 09/13/19 9:05am

RODSERLING

BartVanHemelen said:

 



RODSERLING said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


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Because they were filmed ON FILM. Holy crap, do we need to go through this nonsense over and over again?




I know very well that for HD you have to shoot on film.

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No you don't.


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To believe that Prince never shoot his concerts of the era on film is utter nonsense. 

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.


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[Edited 9/13/19 7:21am]



What a dush you are.
You don't know what film is.
You also ignore that many shos from that era were shot on film( including the live at first avenue 83).
You also ignore completely that WB actually had the choice between releasing a HD transfer of a pristine picture VS releasing a concert with a crappy picture.
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But keep believing if you want that WB could only release this live, on dvd, with this low quality.
Reply #529 posted 09/13/19 9:44am

Romeoblu

Jill Jones looks so damn fine in the video.
Reply #530 posted 09/13/19 9:56am

fabriziovenerandi

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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[Edited 9/13/19 7:21am]

What a dush you are. You don't know what film is. You also ignore that many shos from that era were shot on film( including the live at first avenue 83). You also ignore completely that WB actually had the choice between releasing a HD transfer of a pristine picture VS releasing a concert with a crappy picture. . But keep believing if you want that WB could only release this live, on dvd, with this low quality.

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Are you SURE that show was recorded on film? I mean, do you have a source?

Film is *really* expensive.

Fabrizio

[Edited 9/13/19 22:38pm]

Reply #531 posted 09/13/19 9:59am

djThunderfunk

Yes. Same with PR Syracuse. In fact, the vast majority of his shows were probably "filmed" on VHS. The filmstock, cameras and equipment involved in using actual film would have been far too expensive for recording every show as he did.

BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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No you don't.

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To believe that Prince never shoot his concerts of the era on film is utter nonsense.

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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[Edited 9/13/19 7:21am]

[Edited 9/13/19 10:01am]

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #532 posted 09/13/19 10:05am

purplepolitician

Romeoblu said:

Jill Jones looks so damn fine in the video.

She always do but yes drool
Purple music does things to my brain. I'm high.
Reply #533 posted 09/13/19 10:18am

IstenSzek

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off smile


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #534 posted 09/13/19 10:37am

TheEnglishGent

IstenSzek said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off smile



It’s not really a pissing contest as one person is just being completely wrong. It’s more like a pissing contest where one person is pissing and the other one is trying to win but instead pee they’re trying to do it by spitting their fluids. :lol:

But yeah, not really needed here.
RIP sad
Reply #535 posted 09/13/19 10:48am

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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[Edited 9/13/19 7:21am]

What a dush you are. You don't know what film is.

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No, you don't. Look at how the lights interact with the picture: typical of analog video, not of film.

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You also ignore that many shos from that era were shot on film( including the live at first avenue 83).

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Where's your proof? You don't have it because it isn't true.

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You also ignore completely that WB actually had the choice between releasing a HD transfer of a pristine picture VS releasing a concert with a crappy picture. .

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No they didn't because then they wouldn't have used this source.

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Reply #536 posted 09/13/19 10:50am

BartVanHemelen

IstenSzek said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off smile


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Me as well, but apparently some people can't even admit simple truths. And next thing you know that nonsense gets repeated as "see how WB are deliverately watering down the worth of the estate."

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Reply #537 posted 09/13/19 10:54am

IstenSzek

BartVanHemelen said:

IstenSzek said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off smile


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Me as well, but apparently some people can't even admit simple truths. And next thing you know that nonsense gets repeated as "see how WB are deliverately watering down the worth of the estate."


yeah, i hear you and i know that's why you try to correct them. it's just insane that people keep
bringing this up again and again. there should be a sticky or something at the top of the homepage.



and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #538 posted 09/13/19 11:29am

djThunderfunk

Agreed.

So this is the last thing I'll say to ROD on the subject:

Just go watch the Sign "O" The Times movie, DVD or Blu-ray, doesn't matter...

Notice how U Got The Look looks like shit compared to the rest of the movie? It's because it was shot on video and the rest of the movie was shot on film. No matter what they do, they cannot match the quality for the two sources.

The concerts were shot on video, not film, so, same problem.


[Edited 9/13/19 11:29am]

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #539 posted 09/13/19 1:00pm

ThirdStrike

BartVanHemelen said:

IstenSzek said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off smile


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Me as well, but apparently some people can't even admit simple truths. And next thing you know that nonsense gets repeated as "see how WB are deliverately watering down the worth of the estate."

What the fuck does "deliverately" mean? Is it that hard to use spell check?!?!?

Reply #540 posted 09/13/19 1:03pm

pricetag

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Reply #541 posted 09/13/19 1:05pm

Cinny

BartVanHemelen said:

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Amazon Canada:

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1999-Super-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Super-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Deluxe-Prince

1999-Deluxe-VINYL-Prince

1999-Remastered-Prince

1999-Remastered-VINYL-Prince

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headbang

Reply #542 posted 09/13/19 2:11pm

SoulAlive

It's gonna be hard waiting until November.I want it NOW! lol Can't wait!!

Reply #543 posted 09/13/19 2:28pm

Moonbeam

Haven't seen any pre-order links for Australia. Hope they get their act together soon!

Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
Reply #544 posted 09/13/19 2:32pm

IstenSzek

SoulAlive said:

It's gonna be hard waiting until November.I want it NOW! lol Can't wait!!


same here smile but i guess it's something cool to look forward to, which is always a good thing.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #545 posted 09/13/19 3:02pm

RODSERLING

djThunderfunk said:

Agreed.

So this is the last thing I'll say to ROD on the subject:

Just go watch the Sign "O" The Times movie, DVD or Blu-ray, doesn't matter...

Notice how U Got The Look looks like shit compared to the rest of the movie? It's because it was shot on video and the rest of the movie was shot on film. No matter what they do, they cannot match the quality for the two sources.

The concerts were shot on video, not film, so, same problem.


[Edited 9/13/19 11:29am]



How ridiculous...And you think I didn't know that about U got the look?
That I don't know the difference between VHS and film?
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What you all seem to ignore is that WB had the choice to release a real HD concert.
Because, yes, many concerts of Prince and other multimillion selling artists were shot on F.I.L.M.
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Ever heard about Live at first avenue 83 ?
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Reply #546 posted 09/13/19 3:03pm

RODSERLING

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Reply #547 posted 09/13/19 3:08pm

djThunderfunk

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:

Agreed.

So this is the last thing I'll say to ROD on the subject:

Just go watch the Sign "O" The Times movie, DVD or Blu-ray, doesn't matter...

Notice how U Got The Look looks like shit compared to the rest of the movie? It's because it was shot on video and the rest of the movie was shot on film. No matter what they do, they cannot match the quality for the two sources.

The concerts were shot on video, not film, so, same problem.


[Edited 9/13/19 11:29am]

How ridiculous...And you think I didn't know that about U got the look? That I don't know the difference between VHS and film? . What you all seem to ignore is that WB had the choice to release a real HD concert. Because, yes, many concerts of Prince and other multimillion selling artists were shot on F.I.L.M. . Ever heard about Live at first avenue 83 ? .


I bet you convert your MP3s to FLAC don't you? razz lol

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #548 posted 09/13/19 3:17pm

Nightcrawler

djThunderfunk said:

 



RODSERLING said:


djThunderfunk said:

 



If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD. lol



Not if you have the original tapes. What you put on VHS are the original tapes, the original source. . There are many HD releases of concert filmed in the 60's/70's. . So if you believe that none of 1999 Prince concert were filmed on tapes, including this one, that's your choice. . WB just didn't locate the tapes, or didn't bother to remaster them. .


"Orignal tapes"? What kind of "original tapes" are you talking about? AFAIK, the "original tapes" ARE VHS. The reason that many concerts filmed in the 60s & 70s can be remastered in HD, is because they were FILMED... on FILM. Film is higher resolution than VHS and perfect for HD remaster. Shows that were originally recorded on VHS, like most of Prince's, will never, ever have an HD look. The reason Prince was able to film all of his shows, is because of the low expense of recording with VHS. Filming every show on FILM would have been too expensive, even for Prince.





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THIS is the best answer to this whole picture quality discussion. I‘m totally excited for this great, great set. We get an amazing boxset of one of Princes best album before the year is over and the best a big part of this fan community has to say about it is that it could be improved. This is really sad, guys. You will obviously never be satisfied.
Just like the sun, the rainbow children rise...
Reply #549 posted 09/13/19 3:17pm

OnlyNDaUsa

djThunderfunk said:

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said: How ridiculous...And you think I didn't know that about U got the look? That I don't know the difference between VHS and film? . What you all seem to ignore is that WB had the choice to release a real HD concert. Because, yes, many concerts of Prince and other multimillion selling artists were shot on F.I.L.M. . Ever heard about Live at first avenue 83 ? .


I bet you convert your MP3s to FLAC don't you? razz lol

Be nice! And I listen almost excluivley to MP3s. I am old and tone deaf... I am sure there is a difference but I can't tell.

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #550 posted 09/13/19 3:19pm

mediumdry

djThunderfunk said:

Agreed.

So this is the last thing I'll say to ROD on the subject:

Just go watch the Sign "O" The Times movie, DVD or Blu-ray, doesn't matter...

Notice how U Got The Look looks like shit compared to the rest of the movie? It's because it was shot on video and the rest of the movie was shot on film. No matter what they do, they cannot match the quality for the two sources.

The concerts were shot on video, not film, so, same problem.


[Edited 9/13/19 11:29am]

.

The interesting thing here is that U Got The Look actually was shot on film. It was then scanned to vide and edited as a video clip and released. When the movie was made later, they somehow made the decision to use the video version in the movie. It was probably deemed "good enough" and too much trouble to re-edit the song, but using the film footage. In those days, it looked slightly worse in the movie theater, but not a lot of people saw it. When the video was released on VHS later on, you wouldn't see the difference. Now, of course, it's painfully obvious.

.

One thing to note though, is that the professional video quality is better than VHS. (this has to do with how the colour and light and are encoded on betacam (not betamax)) This means that, if there is a "pro" shot, you will be able to get better than VHS quality. You will never reach hi-def, but something watchable. I feel, for instance, that the Syracuse DVD looked a lot better than the VHS video. The clips I've seen of a cleaned up First Avenue 83 looked quite good. And this 1999 video? Sure, it looks old school, but it's very watchable. Let's hope they'll release more footage of this quality! I'd rather see things like this than not see them. (the only alternative)

Reply #551 posted 09/13/19 3:21pm

TheEnglishGent

I am very much looking forward to this release.
RIP sad
Reply #552 posted 09/13/19 3:24pm

SoulAlive

IstenSzek said:

 



SoulAlive said:


It's gonna be hard waiting until November.I want it NOW!  lol   Can't wait!! 




same here smile but i guess it's something cool to look forward to, which is always a good thing.




Yep smile
Reply #553 posted 09/13/19 3:29pm

djThunderfunk

OnlyNDaUsa said:

djThunderfunk said:


I bet you convert your MP3s to FLAC don't you? razz lol

Be nice! And I listen almost excluivley to MP3s. I am old and tone deaf... I am sure there is a difference but I can't tell.


I still use an iPod classic so I listen to MP3s every day.

My point is, if you convert an MP3 to FLAC, you still have a lossy file. A lossy file will never have the fidelity of a lossless file, just like a VHS will never have the resolution of film. Get it? wink

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #554 posted 09/13/19 3:31pm

OnlyNDaUsa

TheEnglishGent said:

I am very much looking forward to this release.

me too! and I need to make a New big mix CD for my car! Since I made it about 10 of the songs have come out or will on 1999! (I made it shortly after "Nothing Compares 2 U" was leaked!)

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #555 posted 09/13/19 3:34pm

OnlyNDaUsa

djThunderfunk said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Be nice! And I listen almost excluivley to MP3s. I am old and tone deaf... I am sure there is a difference but I can't tell.


I still use an iPod classic so I listen to MP3s every day.

My point is, if you convert an MP3 to FLAC, you still have a lossy file. A lossy file will never have the fidelity of a lossless file, just like a VHS will never have the resolution of film. Get it? wink

yeah I get it... I think it looks fine.

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #556 posted 09/13/19 3:34pm

djThunderfunk

mediumdry said:

djThunderfunk said:

Agreed.

So this is the last thing I'll say to ROD on the subject:

Just go watch the Sign "O" The Times movie, DVD or Blu-ray, doesn't matter...

Notice how U Got The Look looks like shit compared to the rest of the movie? It's because it was shot on video and the rest of the movie was shot on film. No matter what they do, they cannot match the quality for the two sources.

The concerts were shot on video, not film, so, same problem.


[Edited 9/13/19 11:29am]

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The interesting thing here is that U Got The Look actually was shot on film. It was then scanned to vide and edited as a video clip and released. When the movie was made later, they somehow made the decision to use the video version in the movie. It was probably deemed "good enough" and too much trouble to re-edit the song, but using the film footage. In those days, it looked slightly worse in the movie theater, but not a lot of people saw it. When the video was released on VHS later on, you wouldn't see the difference. Now, of course, it's painfully obvious.

.

One thing to note though, is that the professional video quality is better than VHS. (this has to do with how the colour and light and are encoded on betacam (not betamax)) This means that, if there is a "pro" shot, you will be able to get better than VHS quality. You will never reach hi-def, but something watchable. I feel, for instance, that the Syracuse DVD looked a lot better than the VHS video. The clips I've seen of a cleaned up First Avenue 83 looked quite good. And this 1999 video? Sure, it looks old school, but it's very watchable. Let's hope they'll release more footage of this quality! I'd rather see things like this than not see them. (the only alternative)


I didn't know that about U Got The Look, thanks for the info. I was one of the people who noticed the difference in the theater.

Having worked at a TV station, I was aware of the differences with professional video and VHS, but didn't want to get into it since the simple concept of the differences between video and film were too much for some around here. wink

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #557 posted 09/13/19 3:35pm

Strive

A good analogy for U Got The Look is Star Trek TOS or Firefly. Star Trek was shot on film but edited on tape for TV. So when they went back to remaster it, they had to rescan all the film and reedit it. Firefly on the other hand had a HD transfer but they mastered all the special effects in 480 as a cost cutting measure. So the show is HD, but every time you see CGI, it's upscaled 480. To fix it, they'd have to go back and rerender all the CGI. An expense Fox has deemed unnecessary since what exists is good enough.

To get U Got The Look in HD, they'd have to go back to the original elements (if they still exist), scan them in and reedit the entire segment. Not something they're likely to do since they pimped it out to Starz.
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #558 posted 09/13/19 3:38pm

SquirrelMeat

OnlyNDaUsa said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I am very much looking forward to this release.

me too! and I need to make a New big mix CD for my car! Since I made it about 10 of the songs have come out or will on 1999! (I made it shortly after "Nothing Compares 2 U" was leaked!)


Lol. I feel the pain! I have a set of peronalised Anthology albums, totalling about 400 tracks, including some mixed segues and interviews. The deluxes are running a railroad of quality through my hard work. First world problems lol

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Reply #559 posted 09/13/19 4:08pm

OnlyNDaUsa

SquirrelMeat said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

me too! and I need to make a New big mix CD for my car! Since I made it about 10 of the songs have come out or will on 1999! (I made it shortly after "Nothing Compares 2 U" was leaked!)


Lol. I feel the pain! I have a set of peronalised Anthology albums, totalling about 400 tracks, including some mixed segues and interviews. The deluxes are running a railroad of quality through my hard work. First world problems lol

I was talking to a friend at work how I all my years of colleting bootlegs is coming home to roost.

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #560 posted 09/13/19 4:40pm

BalladofPeterParker

I can't wait to get my grubby little hands on this set!!

Reply #561 posted 09/13/19 4:50pm

ChocolateBox3121

Romeoblu said:

Jill Jones looks so damn fine in the video.

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #562 posted 09/13/19 5:22pm

purplethunder3121

popcorn

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
Reply #563 posted 09/13/19 5:53pm

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

What you all seem to ignore is that WB had the choice to release a real HD concert. Because, yes, many concerts of Prince and other multimillion selling artists were shot on F.I.L.M.

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Go on then, tell us which 1999 gig was filmed on film.

.


. Ever heard about Live at first avenue 83 ? .

.

Where do you even get this?

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #564 posted 09/13/19 5:57pm

feeluupp

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...

Reply #565 posted 09/13/19 6:08pm

rdhull

feeluupp said:

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...


lol

He seems to be really losing it
He’s doubling down HARD on EVERYTHING since he was found wrong about 1999 being released
c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #566 posted 09/13/19 6:15pm

SoulAlive

feeluupp said:

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...



I agree biggrin when the 1999 Deluxe is released,he will be on here trying to convince us that it’s a “flop”.He’s predictable and annoying.
Reply #567 posted 09/13/19 8:57pm

udo

Why was the purple sky omitted from the cover?

FFS the deceased singer even mentions that sky in `1999`.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Reply #568 posted 09/13/19 9:36pm

TheGloved1

I'm buying based on the inclusion of Feel U Up and Irresistible Bitch (the early versions) too funky

Not to mention Purple Music...man I'm excited! Thi sis the time to show that Super Deluxe sets are worthwhile releases. I want Parade Super Deluxe eventually, so that's another reason to support this.

Reply #569 posted 09/14/19 12:23am

RODSERLING

SoulAlive said:

feeluupp said:

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...



I agree biggrin when the 1999 Deluxe is released,he will be on here trying to convince us that it’s a “flop”.He’s predictable and annoying.


Like my dozens of posts on the topic of Originals sales saying it s a success?
How old are you ? Ten?
Reply #570 posted 09/14/19 12:28am

RODSERLING

rdhull said:

feeluupp said:

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...


lol

He seems to be really losing it
He’s doubling down HARD on EVERYTHING since he was found wrong about 1999 being released


I was found right on so many topics here that I don't care.
I m a Prince fan, so if tomorrow they release 1999 deluxe, I m delighted, I m not crying, I m not desperate.
.
You are obsessed with me, that is interesting. In fact your behaviour and posts makes me laugh! Keep insulting me, keep showing you are a no life and no other interest beside being obsessed by me.
Reply #571 posted 09/14/19 12:31am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

It's time for ROD to be banned, it's time...



This is also interesting...
You send me PM pressing me to reassure you Originals is a success, to make topics etc. To ask me information s, and now you piss me off?
.
Again, a new instance of an impolite no life.
Reply #572 posted 09/14/19 12:48am

RODSERLING

BartVanHemelen said:

 



RODSERLING said:



 What you all seem to ignore is that WB had the choice to release a real HD concert. Because, yes, many concerts of Prince and other multimillion selling artists were shot on F.I.L.M.

.


Go on then, tell us which 1999 gig was filmed on film.


.




. Ever heard about Live at first avenue 83 ? .

.


Where do you even get this?



Some instances :
Live at first avenue 83 was shot on film.
7 march 1982 show at Bloomington.
7 jilune 1986 at Detroit
Even some gigs of acts that sold like 500.000 albums were shot on film, from the sixties and on
.

So with a 1999 album selling 2/3 millions in a few months, this is unbelievable that some shows weren't protected on film. Especially when you know that in 1983 they prepared the movie Purple Rain.
.
It s like with MJ. Sony could release great HD concerts from All eras, including the Jacksons tour and even the J5!
.
The problem is that :
1) sometimes they can't locate the tapes
2) they won't pay the price to the owner of the tapes
3) they won't pay the price to remaster it in full HD, because it could cost millions.
Reply #573 posted 09/14/19 1:38am

TheEnglishGent

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Where do you even get this?

Some instances : Live at first avenue 83 was shot on film. 7 march 1982 show at Bloomington. 7 jilune 1986 at Detroit Even some gigs of acts that sold like 500.000 albums were shot on film, from the sixties and on . So with a 1999 album selling 2/3 millions in a few months, this is unbelievable that some shows weren't protected on film. Especially when you know that in 1983 they prepared the movie Purple Rain. . It s like with MJ. Sony could release great HD concerts from All eras, including the Jacksons tour and even the J5! . The problem is that : 1) sometimes they can't locate the tapes 2) they won't pay the price to the owner of the tapes 3) they won't pay the price to remaster it in full HD, because it could cost millions.


Are these tapes of film?

RIP sad
Reply #574 posted 09/14/19 1:40am

TheEnglishGent

udo said:

Why was the purple sky omitted from the cover?

FFS the deceased singer even mentions that sky in `1999`.


The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

RIP sad
Reply #575 posted 09/14/19 2:44am

VaultCurator

TheEnglishGent said:

udo said:

Why was the purple sky omitted from the cover?

FFS the deceased singer even mentions that sky in `1999`.


The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

.

Was that picture shot on film or tape? lol

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #576 posted 09/14/19 3:10am

RODSERLING

TheEnglishGent said:

 



RODSERLING said:


BartVanHemelen said:

 


.


Where do you even get this?



Some instances : Live at first avenue 83 was shot on film. 7 march 1982 show at Bloomington. 7 jilune 1986 at Detroit Even some gigs of acts that sold like 500.000 albums were shot on film, from the sixties and on . So with a 1999 album selling 2/3 millions in a few months, this is unbelievable that some shows weren't protected on film. Especially when you know that in 1983 they prepared the movie Purple Rain. . It s like with MJ. Sony could release great HD concerts from All eras, including the Jacksons tour and even the J5! . The problem is that : 1) sometimes they can't locate the tapes 2) they won't pay the price to the owner of the tapes 3) they won't pay the price to remaster it in full HD, because it could cost millions.


Are these tapes of film?



Yes, that s the point ! Film = HD release possible = remastered picture
Reply #577 posted 09/14/19 4:14am

Se7en

I like the way they changed the artwork to silver on the deluxe version, especially since the inner LP cover is still purple.

Reply #578 posted 09/14/19 4:23am

Se7en

IstenSzek said:

TwiliteKid said:

Moonbeam Levels has been released, so I think they're counting the 12 tracks from the Detroit show. Bit misleading.


ooh, good catch! a bit misleading, indeed. but not an outright lie, i guess lol



Yes, but the "Moonbeam Levels (2019 Remaster)" has never been released! lol

Reply #579 posted 09/14/19 4:33am

Se7en

IstenSzek said:

Vannormal said:

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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?

They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...

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I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,

not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.

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Sort of a misser ?

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Money ?

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yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses confused

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[Edited 9/13/19 6:52am]


They did something similar with Diamonds & Pearls, where they got quotes from people like Anthony Kiedes from RHCP and others who weren't in "Prince's orbit".

I like that they have Duff McKagan on there. He's a confessed Superfan like Questlove. Would you rather have a Questlove essay? Not saying it's a bad thing, but he seems like the lazy "go-to" for this stuff.

I wouldn't even mind an intro from the family, to be honest. Maybe a paragraph from each of the siblings . . . what they were thinking as their brother was shooting to superstardom and showing up on MTV?

Reply #580 posted 09/14/19 5:17am

IstenSzek

Se7en said:

IstenSzek said:


yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses confused

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[Edited 9/13/19 6:52am]


They did something similar with Diamonds & Pearls, where they got quotes from people like Anthony Kiedes from RHCP and others who weren't in "Prince's orbit".

I like that they have Duff McKagan on there. He's a confessed Superfan like Questlove. Would you rather have a Questlove essay? Not saying it's a bad thing, but he seems like the lazy "go-to" for this stuff.

I wouldn't even mind an intro from the family, to be honest. Maybe a paragraph from each of the siblings . . . what they were thinking as their brother was shooting to superstardom and showing up on MTV?


exactly. that, or members of the revolution or other people who were around him, either
on stage, in the studio or even in the bedroom at that time.

i would love to read essays by questlove or duff mckagan in magazines or on websites,
sure, but as a permanent part of such a boxset, i find it weird that they would include
such pieces instead of quotes from people who were there, back then.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #581 posted 09/14/19 5:27am

ChocolateBox3121

Se7en said:

I like the way they changed the artwork to silver on the deluxe version, especially since the inner LP cover is still purple.

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #582 posted 09/14/19 5:47am

eyewishuheaven

Se7en said:

I like the way they changed the artwork to silver on the deluxe version, especially since the inner LP cover is still purple.


Yeah, I like that too. Have fun and make a groovy new outer box, but preserve the original art on the album jacket itself. cool

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #583 posted 09/14/19 6:43am

djThunderfunk

VaultCurator said:

TheEnglishGent said:


The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

.

Was that picture shot on film or tape? lol



falloff

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #584 posted 09/14/19 7:25am

jaypotton

Se7en said:

 



IstenSzek said:


 



Vannormal said:


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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?


They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...


-


I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,


not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.


-


Sort of a misser ?


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Money ?


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yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses confused

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[Edited 9/13/19 6:52am]




They did something similar with Diamonds & Pearls, where they got quotes from people like Anthony Kiedes from RHCP and others who weren't in "Prince's orbit". 

I like that they have Duff McKagan on there. He's a confessed Superfan like Questlove. Would you rather have a Questlove essay? Not saying it's a bad thing, but he seems like the lazy "go-to" for this stuff.

I wouldn't even mind an intro from the family, to be honest. Maybe a paragraph from each of the siblings . . . what they were thinking as their brother was shooting to superstardom and showing up on MTV? 



Yep it's called marketing and quite a smart thing to do. Having quotes from members of the Prince band would be interesting to us but the general public couldn't care less. There is a chance, small small chance, but a chance nonetheless that a fan of Guns N Roses might pick this set up because this guy is quoted. PLUS it is giving Prince kudos from supposedly unexpected folks and saying "Prince was the musicians musician" etc
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #585 posted 09/14/19 7:31am

TheEnglishGent

VaultCurator said:

TheEnglishGent said:


The album in the set still has the purple cover, they changed it for the box cover.

.

Was that picture shot on film or tape? lol

Sorry, I didn't have a chance to get it remasterized.

RIP sad
Reply #586 posted 09/14/19 7:41am

jaypotton

Also on this whole video vs film etc debate. Jeez guys I wish everyone would cool their jets. It is actually pretty simple.

Some concerts were shot on film (either 35mm or 16mm - each of which will look different). During the 80s it was common to shoot higher budget pop "videos" on 16mm film and big budget on 35mm film (because it cost a lot more). Cheap videos were shot on, well video!

And here is the crunch.

When shooting on video PROFESSIONALLY they used professional video formats. Older formats include U-Matic then BetaCam.

Only domestic / home viewing formats used VHS (or early 80s the far superior Betamax - that evolved into Betacam).

So if a concert was shot for broadcast on TV they would probably have shot on Betacam or U-Matic. They MIGHT have shot some on film but that was more expense.

Whatever format something was shot on, if it was intended for home viewing/release in the 80s then it would have to be transferred to video (if shot on film) to make master copies for mass production. Whether something was edited on film or video probably depended on budget and end goal (release format - so if cinema then edited on film and master version on film).

Perhaps SOME of the confusion for SOME folks (not all, many here are very well informed) is that Prince ALSO shot all of his concerts so he could watch the them back and check out the performance. Prince would not have professionally shot these. He would simply have had the crew set up video cameras (recording on VHS - like any home video camera). Even in the 00s I could see this set up at the mixing desk (single camera straight on to the stage).

For the estate and WB (or whoever in future) to release DVDs/Blue Ray (whatever) of concert footage ALL they can do is go back to the format the concert was shot on (assuming that footage still exists/can be located). Failing that they will go to the next format that they can locate.

And then here is the next crunch - film and video stock deteriorates over time. It needs to be kept in special environmental conditions. We know there were problems with the Vault at PP so EVEN IF a concert had been shot on film it might not be useable anymore. That would force them to use the best version available.

Seriously, it ain't that hard a concept.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #587 posted 09/14/19 9:07am

mnfriend

I did not know Duff McKagan was a Prince connoisseur,
I have read 2 books authored by him, do not remember him writing on Prince,
I did enjoy his writing. And I am NOT a guns and Rose fan.
I’d rather have Duff than Quest, yes.

Does it ‘help’ if I buy from Prince official site as opposed to Amazon, the price is currently the same.

Perhaps the biography book release will help market 1999 release this Fall.
[Edited 9/14/19 9:07am]
Reply #588 posted 09/14/19 9:44am

udo

Why is there no alternative version (not released before) of 1999 on the deluxe sets?

I mean: a mono edit. Please explain the historical significance of this version to faNs if you can.

On the 1999 live version of the Summit: you can see that Prince was quite in happy mood.

Backgrounds always welcome.

Also: I looked at google maps for the Summiit:

Closed, etc. But could it really hold 10.000 people (as mentioned on princevaul for the show date)?

I mean: for 10.000 in Rotterdam you need the Rotterdam Ahoy. a building of different proportions.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Reply #589 posted 09/14/19 10:26am

mnfriend

((found this))


Duff McKagan has continually expressed his unabashed love for Prince and his music. Saying things such as:
“I have been a die-hard Prince fan since the early ’80s. When Controversy came out in 1981, a punker friend of mine in Seattle demanded that I listen to it. Prince was unlike anyone else. When 1999 came out in 1982, the record transformed my insides.”

Duff even credits Prince for inspiring him to follow his dreams of becoming a rock star.
“When Purple Rain hit, I was free and starting to take life by the balls. That record was the soundtrack to my life and gave me the confidence to move to L.A. at 19, with nothing more than belief in myself. Prince’s music can do that.”
Reply #590 posted 09/14/19 10:36am

djThunderfunk

Ross Perot was right!!
Reply #591 posted 09/14/19 1:08pm

GiggityGoo

I am super-psyched for this special edition... I've already pre-ordered it. But I just now saw the packaging:

,

Prince / 1999 5CD+DVD box set

.

Look at that! A box with a slip-cover... different photos on the CD and DVD sleeves... the graphics... Man, that's an impressive deluxe set. I can't wait to get my hands on it.

.

But... I hate to sound like an unappreciative fan, but... couldn't they have done something like this for "Purple Rain"? "1999" is a great and important album, to be sure, but... I mean, c'mon: "PURPLE RAIN"! There wasn't more they could have done vault-wise and packaging-wise? If it was because they needed more time to go through the Vault material, then I could have waited another year or two. Again, I don't mean to whine... just pondering the whys and hows.

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All I know is: they better do something this impressive for "Sign 'O' The Times"!!!

Reply #592 posted 09/14/19 1:20pm

TheFman

1999 is probably my fav P album, but no way im buying this mess. Im even very turned off by this uncoherent and uncomplete 'collection'.

But hard to win me over in the first place, as i very dislike 'remasters'. Dont mess with originals, but that was discussed already before...

Reply #593 posted 09/14/19 1:35pm

Rimshottbob

TheFman said:

1999 is probably my fav P album, but no way im buying this mess. Im even very turned off by this uncoherent and uncomplete 'collection'.

But hard to win me over in the first place, as i very dislike 'remasters'. Dont mess with originals, but that was discussed already before...

Stop it, you're making my eyes hurt from rolling so hard.

I placed my order for the Super Deluxe vinyl edition with my record store today. £184.00. Ah well.

We live once.

I'm very excited for this.

To the earlier comment about why they didn't do something this comprehensive for Purple Rain - I'll be the Estate/Warners now wish they had!

Purple Rain was really their first foray into this with Prince's work. And what with vinyl now being 'a thing' again, it seems logical to release everything on vinyl - it didn't seem that logical to do that even as recently as 2017.... I wish they had released everything - and more - on vinyl!

But then there's always the 40th Anniversay Super Deluxe Edition to look forward to! lol

Reply #594 posted 09/14/19 1:41pm

eyewishuheaven

Rimshottbob said:

To the earlier comment about why they didn't do something this comprehensive for Purple Rain - I'll be the Estate/Warners now wish they had!


It should be remembered too that they thought they were gonna include 1st Ave '83, that would have upped the appeal considerably...

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #595 posted 09/14/19 1:51pm

MIInsane

As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation.

Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.

Reply #596 posted 09/14/19 2:24pm

rdhull

MIInsane said:

As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation.


 


Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.


As well as the cache Duff has to get some gnr fans who aren’t already Prince fans to check him out
c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #597 posted 09/14/19 3:56pm

purplethunder3121

eyewishuheaven said:

Rimshottbob said:

To the earlier comment about why they didn't do something this comprehensive for Purple Rain - I'll be the Estate/Warners now wish they had!


It should be remembered too that they thought they were gonna include 1st Ave '83, that would have upped the appeal considerably...

Still don't understand why they didn't...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
Reply #598 posted 09/14/19 4:04pm

mnfriend

MIInsane said:

As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation.


 


Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.




well it wasn’t common knowledge to me, and I read his 2 books, therefore he must not have gone into too much on his 2 authored books.

Why is it this place is always ‘I know more than you’ or ‘Duh common knowledge’
‘I was the one he REALLY loved’ (lol)
Reply #599 posted 09/14/19 5:47pm

MIInsane

mnfriend said:

MIInsane said:

As a fan of both Prince and Guns 'N Roses, Duff's love for Prince has been common knowledge. I'm actually happy that he is penning some liner notes for the reissue. It'll be cool for non-GNR fans to see his appreciation.

Plus, he did a kickass cover of "Bambi", which isn't to be found anywhere on YouTube.

well it wasn’t common knowledge to me, and I read his 2 books, therefore he must not have gone into too much on his 2 authored books. Why is it this place is always ‘I know more than you’ or ‘Duh common knowledge’ ‘I was the one he REALLY loved’ (lol)

I guess I should have specified that in Guns 'N Roses "fandom" it is common knowledge.

Reply #600 posted 09/14/19 6:07pm

rdhull

Its BEEN common knowledge, mnfriend has been living under a rock and not the purple rock

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #601 posted 09/14/19 7:07pm

RJP1205

I've been thinking about all the disappointment on this thread about Xtraloveable being excluded. I also would love to hear the original (only ever heard on HNR) but my mind keeps going back to the recent Neverland video (not disputing guilt or innocence). MJ was basically crucified based on accusations alone and a media outlet. All it would take would be someone to say P raped them and a large media outlet to promote it and there goes P's legacy...forever tarnished without any burden of proof. I would hate to see anything like that ever happen.
Reply #602 posted 09/14/19 8:37pm

kewlschool

mnfriend said:

((found this)) Duff McKagan has continually expressed his unabashed love for Prince and his music. Saying things such as: “I have been a die-hard Prince fan since the early ’80s. When Controversy came out in 1981, a punker friend of mine in Seattle demanded that I listen to it. Prince was unlike anyone else. When 1999 came out in 1982, the record transformed my insides.” Duff even credits Prince for inspiring him to follow his dreams of becoming a rock star. “When Purple Rain hit, I was free and starting to take life by the balls. That record was the soundtrack to my life and gave me the confidence to move to L.A. at 19, with nothing more than belief in myself. Prince’s music can do that.”

I was at a Prince concert where Duff along with other members of Soundgarden and Alice in chains where attending during Prince's welcome 2 america tour.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
Reply #603 posted 09/14/19 9:46pm

udo

GiggityGoo said:

couldn't they have done something like this for "Purple Rain"?

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'life' came in the way and before that Prince was.

Even WB apparently could not gather enough material after mr Nelson departed us.

I mean:

Read this article: https://www.rollingstone....ms-191597/

Then you know what their idea was, which appears lightly more on par with the 1999 deluxe release.

For certain reasons they were unable to make this a reality.

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No I am not sorry for WB...

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[Edited 9/14/19 21:48pm]

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Reply #604 posted 09/14/19 10:26pm

Strive

RJP1205 said:

I've been thinking about all the disappointment on this thread about Xtraloveable being excluded. I also would love to hear the original (only ever heard on HNR)


The stupidest thing about this is that it's on YouTube with over 200,000 views.

Give it a listen and try to keep in mind that it's extremely tongue in cheek from a time period where consent was blurred in the mainstream. The idea of Prince getting so revved up that he says something vile to get her attention then, all 5 foot 2 of him, threatens to drag her to the bath. "Now are you going to get in the tub or do I have to drag you? Don't make me drag you, I can be very cruel" as he's chanting "Hippie don't stop the groove, extralovable beat tells your body what to do."

It's laughable. It's not a serious song.

I swear the people that defend it being locked away only read the word rape on a lyric sheet and then their brain shuts down.

"B-b-but the woke crowd will get mad."

So what. They don't have any money, they aren't purchasing anything, they'll move on to the faux scandal within a week because meaningless conflict is all they have in their life. Quit giving these fucking idiots power.

purplethunder3121 said:

eyewishuheaven said:


It should be remembered too that they thought they were gonna include 1st Ave '83, that would have upped the appeal considerably...

Still don't understand why they didn't...


The Estate pulled it so they could put it and the rights to make a documentary out of the rehearsal footage on the market. Apple won.

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Reply #605 posted 09/15/19 12:14am

BartVanHemelen

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Where do you even get this?

Some instances : Live at first avenue 83 was shot on film.

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Evidence?

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Reply #606 posted 09/15/19 12:21am

purplethunder3121

RJP1205 said:

I've been thinking about all the disappointment on this thread about Xtraloveable being excluded. I also would love to hear the original (only ever heard on HNR) but my mind keeps going back to the recent Neverland video (not disputing guilt or innocence). MJ was basically crucified based on accusations alone and a media outlet. All it would take would be someone to say P raped them and a large media outlet to promote it and there goes P's legacy...forever tarnished without any burden of proof. I would hate to see anything like that ever happen.

whofarted

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
Reply #607 posted 09/15/19 12:40am

BartVanHemelen

GiggityGoo said:

But... I hate to sound like an unappreciative fan, but... couldn't they have done something like this for "Purple Rain"?

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As has been pointed out numerous times: NO, because PRDeluxe happened before they started properly going through The Vault. Also, PRDeluxe was Warners rushing out product to the market in an effort to stake their claim.

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Reply #608 posted 09/15/19 12:46am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

 



GiggityGoo said:


 


But... I hate to sound like an unappreciative fan, but... couldn't they have done something like this for "Purple Rain"? 



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As has been pointed out numerous times: NO, because PRDeluxe happened before they started properly going through The Vault. Also, PRDeluxe was Warners rushing out product to the market in an effort to stake their claim.



"stake claim" or try to get a quick cash grab!

No I am not a WB hater at all. Makes business sense and Prince messed them around on the PR remaster release etc.

Contractual timescale stuff may impact this ever happening but I would like PR to get the same treatment as 1999 if only because they will look great in my collection!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
Reply #609 posted 09/15/19 6:14am

Sexybeast

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

Henry H. 0+> Fan From Virginia
Reply #610 posted 09/15/19 6:26am

OnlyNDaUsa

Sexybeast said:

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #611 posted 09/15/19 7:23am

feeluupp

Sexybeast said:

[Off topic snip - luv4u]

What does this have to do with 1999 Deluxe?? This is just a bait post so the thread derails into another estate debate.

Reply #612 posted 09/15/19 9:54am

ChocolateBox3121

GiggityGoo said:

I am super-psyched for this special edition... I've already pre-ordered it. But I just now saw the packaging:

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Prince / 1999 5CD+DVD box set

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Look at that! A box with a slip-cover... different photos on the CD and DVD sleeves... the graphics... Man, that's an impressive deluxe set. I can't wait to get my hands on it.

.

But... I hate to sound like an unappreciative fan, but... couldn't they have done something like this for "Purple Rain"? "1999" is a great and important album, to be sure, but... I mean, c'mon: "PURPLE RAIN"! There wasn't more they could have done vault-wise and packaging-wise? If it was because they needed more time to go through the Vault material, then I could have waited another year or two. Again, I don't mean to whine... just pondering the whys and hows.

.

All I know is: they better do something this impressive for "Sign 'O' The Times"!!!

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985
“When eye say, ‘eye own “Purple Rain,” eye sound like Kanye.” He paused.“Who eye consider a friend.”
Reply #613 posted 09/15/19 12:01pm

SoulAlive

GiggityGoo said:

I am super-psyched for this special edition... I've already pre-ordered it. But I just now saw the packaging:

,

Prince / 1999 5CD+DVD box set

.

Look at that! A box with a slip-cover... different photos on the CD and DVD sleeves... the graphics... Man, that's an impressive deluxe set. I can't wait to get my hands on it.

.

nod yeah,this box set looks fantastic! They did a superb job with the packaging.

Reply #614 posted 09/15/19 12:20pm

GaryMF

Two questions:

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1. Will the CD Super deluxe have everything the Vinyl Super deluxe has? Just the photos and liner notes booklet will be smaller?

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.;

2. Is there a away to buy the CDs but also get MP3s for your phone? Amazon used to do that but I dont see that option now.

rainbow
Reply #615 posted 09/15/19 1:29pm

BartVanHemelen

GaryMF said:

Two questions:

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.

1. Will the CD Super deluxe have everything the Vinyl Super deluxe has? Just the photos and liner notes booklet will be smaller?

.

Read the press release. Look at the pictures.

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Reply #616 posted 09/15/19 2:32pm

lastdecember

Though I would love to go for the 10LP version I think I will get the CD full box version (5CD 1DVD) and then just the regular album on Vinyl. My reasoning is more than the fact that its 200 dollars, its also the sound quality meaning some of these demos, as per an interview, were "the best they could do" as nothing else existed. Also I suggest if you want that LP BOX get it now, because there is going to be a delay FOR SURE on it.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
Reply #617 posted 09/15/19 4:22pm

mnfriend

rdhull said:

Its BEEN common knowledge, mnfriend has been living under a rock and not the  purple rock




LOL razz It’s only R & R but I like it.
Reply #618 posted 09/15/19 4:40pm

controversy99

All I know baby is what I see is good ... How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore (take 2) —- yes, I’m excited for that


Don’t need no refer, don’t need cocaine ... 1999 Deluxe should do the same to my brain. And I’ll get high, so high, in November. —- yaaass!


Darlin. It appears to me. ... International Lover. I hope you are an acoustic piano version


Turn it up! Turn it up baby! ... that’s what I’m planning to do.


I am definitely looking forward to this.


(Btw, Extraloveable has a playful dis at Dez, like he’s out of the band. I don’t think that would exactly work on 1999 Deluxe considering that Dez has a significant role in both big singles.)

Edit to hopefully get some line breaks.
[Edited 9/15/19 19:46pm]
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
Reply #619 posted 09/15/19 4:56pm

rdhull

mnfriend said:

rdhull said:

Its BEEN common knowledge, mnfriend has been living under a rock and not the purple rock

LOL razz It’s only R & R but I like it.

thumbs up!

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #620 posted 09/15/19 4:58pm

rdhull

controversy99 said:

All I know baby is what I see is good ... How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore (take 2) —- yes, I’m excited for that . Don’t need no refer, don’t need cocaine ... 1999 Deluxe should do the same to my brain. And I’ll get high, so high, in November. —- yaaass! . Darlin. It appears to me. ... International Lover. I hope you are an acoustic piano version . Turn it up! Turn it up baby! ... that’s what I’m planning to do. . I am definitely looking forward to this. . (Btw, Extraloveable has a playful dis at Dez, like he’s out of the band. I don’t think that would exactly work on 1999 Deluxe considering that Dez has a significant role in both big singles.)

I agree with this post, and its funny. We're all concentrating on the rape lyrics and not the Dez factor lol

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
Reply #621 posted 09/15/19 5:03pm

jjam

A mate made a really good point about this box - where's the unedited full length version of 1999 that apparently has a Latin section? Feels like a major dropping of the ball for it to not be included, despite how good the rsuper deluxe release looks.

Reply #622 posted 09/15/19 5:59pm

OnlyNDaUsa

jjam said:

A mate made a really good point about this box - where's the unedited full length version of 1999 that apparently has a Latin section? Feels like a major dropping of the ball for it to not be included, despite how good the rsuper deluxe release looks.

Maybe. It was said to have been recorded and to be on the multi-track master but may not have ever been part of the any mix. (it was re-recorded and used in the New Master)

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #623 posted 09/16/19 3:27am

leecaldon

controversy99 said:

All I know baby is what I see is good ... How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore (take 2) —- yes, I’m excited for that Don’t need no refer, don’t need cocaine ... 1999 Deluxe should do the same to my brain. And I’ll get high, so high, in November. —- yaaass! Darlin. It appears to me. ... International Lover. I hope you are an acoustic piano version Turn it up! Turn it up baby! ... that’s what I’m planning to do. I am definitely looking forward to this. (Btw, Extraloveable has a playful dis at Dez, like he’s out of the band. I don’t think that would exactly work on 1999 Deluxe considering that Dez has a significant role in both big singles.) Edit to hopefully get some line breaks. [Edited 9/15/19 19:46pm]

I don't see how that could possibly affect Extraloveable being included.

Reply #624 posted 09/16/19 3:42am

JorisE73

leecaldon said:

controversy99 said:

All I know baby is what I see is good ... How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore (take 2) —- yes, I’m excited for that Don’t need no refer, don’t need cocaine ... 1999 Deluxe should do the same to my brain. And I’ll get high, so high, in November. —- yaaass! Darlin. It appears to me. ... International Lover. I hope you are an acoustic piano version Turn it up! Turn it up baby! ... that’s what I’m planning to do. I am definitely looking forward to this. (Btw, Extraloveable has a playful dis at Dez, like he’s out of the band. I don’t think that would exactly work on 1999 Deluxe considering that Dez has a significant role in both big singles.) Edit to hopefully get some line breaks. [Edited 9/15/19 19:46pm]

I don't see how that could possibly affect Extraloveable being included.


I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).

Reply #625 posted 09/16/19 4:32am

RODSERLING

JorisE73 said:

 



leecaldon said:


 



controversy99 said:


All I know baby is what I see is good ... How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore (take 2) —- yes, I’m excited for that Don’t need no refer, don’t need cocaine ... 1999 Deluxe should do the same to my brain. And I’ll get high, so high, in November. —- yaaass! Darlin. It appears to me. ... International Lover. I hope you are an acoustic piano version Turn it up! Turn it up baby! ... that’s what I’m planning to do. I am definitely looking forward to this. (Btw, Extraloveable has a playful dis at Dez, like he’s out of the band. I don’t think that would exactly work on 1999 Deluxe considering that Dez has a significant role in both big singles.) Edit to hopefully get some line breaks. [Edited 9/15/19 19:46pm]

 


I don't see how that could possibly affect Extraloveable being included.




I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).



The Black album is out print since 25 years, and Is apparently included neither in the new WB deal, nor in the Sony deal, and wasn't even included in the Universal deal.
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The rape lyrics is objectively a good reason to not release this song, in this "me too era".
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Causing voluntarily some huge controversy for an artist that couldn't even defend himself since he is dead, would have devastating effects that couldn't be repaired.
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The analogy that someone here made with the documentary against MJ is a good one.
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Reply #626 posted 09/16/19 5:32am

Dandroppedadime

Just listening to New Power Generation (the song) and I'm thinking is it the same basic tracks as Bold Generation? he even says "we got to rearrange" in the song (one of the other songs on 1999 Deluxe). Maybe something similar to We Can Fuck with the same basic tracks but overdubbed into an 'almost' different song. It'll be interesting to hear nevertheless!

[Edited 9/16/19 5:34am]

Reply #627 posted 09/16/19 5:43am

JorisE73

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:


I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).

The Black album is out print since 25 years, and Is apparently included neither in the new WB deal, nor in the Sony deal, and wasn't even included in the Universal deal. . The rape lyrics is objectively a good reason to not release this song, in this "me too era". . Causing voluntarily some huge controversy for an artist that couldn't even defend himself since he is dead, would have devastating effects that couldn't be repaired. . The analogy that someone here made with the documentary against MJ is a good one. .


All the songs are readily available via whatever means to be scrutinized, if it would be so harmful in this #Me Too era it would have been a problem already.
Everyone famous was put under a loop when that whole #Me Too shit began, inlcuding Prince, and nobody said anything about his lyrical content. If they would then they would have to look into a huge pile of 90's to current Hip Hop for more deplorable stuff or even books. I think (or hope) these #Me Too people can distinguish actual rape accounts from fictional lyrics, as if Prince would really threaten to rape someone and sing about it lol I truly hope these #Me Too people aren't that dumb, and considering Prince hasn't been blamed of such things even though a lot of people and, I wouldn't doubt also #ME Too supporters, have heard these lyrics, especially after he died, I highly doubt he would ever be blamed just for his lyrics.

Reply #628 posted 09/16/19 6:23am

dodger

JorisE73 said:

leecaldon said:

I don't see how that could possibly affect Extraloveable being included.


I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).

Seriously? I'm stating the obvious but those lyrics in today's day and age would be a big no. Same for Lust U Always. Personally I wish they both were included but you can understand why the powers that be chose otherwise.

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Mathieu Bitton said similar on Twitter.

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As for the Dez 'playful dis;' I cannot see how that would be an issue. It would even be a good talking point and anecdote for Dez etc to discuss in promo

Reply #629 posted 09/16/19 7:30am

Strive

Dandroppedadime said:

Just listening to New Power Generation (the song) and I'm thinking is it the same basic tracks as Bold Generation? he even says "we got to rearrange" in the song (one of the other songs on 1999 Deluxe). Maybe something similar to We Can Fuck with the same basic tracks but overdubbed into an 'almost' different song. It'll be interesting to hear nevertheless!

[Edited 9/16/19 5:34am]





Michael Howe: I don’t believe this ever trickled out into the fan community, and really is the only example of something on the entire set of expanded body of work that we had to source from a cassette rough mix, because there was literally no other existing version.

Even a two-inch [reel] was recorded over, so we didn’t even have a trace of what the original track was, but we did find a cassette rough mix of it and made it as sonically appealing as we possibly could, given the limitations, but that’s the kind of forensic approach that we tried to take.

I am virtually certain it was initially intended for The Time and obviously never ended up getting released as it currently exists, and turned into the song ‘New Power Generation’, which is something that ended up on Graffiti Bridge I guess, but this is a much more organic sort of approach I would say.
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #630 posted 09/16/19 9:27am

eyewishuheaven

Strive said:

Dandroppedadime said:

Just listening to New Power Generation (the song) and I'm thinking is it the same basic tracks as Bold Generation? he even says "we got to rearrange" in the song (one of the other songs on 1999 Deluxe). Maybe something similar to We Can Fuck with the same basic tracks but overdubbed into an 'almost' different song. It'll be interesting to hear nevertheless!

[Edited 9/16/19 5:34am]

Michael Howe: I don’t believe this ever trickled out into the fan community, and really is the only example of something on the entire set of expanded body of work that we had to source from a cassette rough mix, because there was literally no other existing version. Even a two-inch [reel] was recorded over, so we didn’t even have a trace of what the original track was, but we did find a cassette rough mix of it and made it as sonically appealing as we possibly could, given the limitations, but that’s the kind of forensic approach that we tried to take. I am virtually certain it was initially intended for The Time and obviously never ended up getting released as it currently exists, and turned into the song ‘New Power Generation’, which is something that ended up on Graffiti Bridge I guess, but this is a much more organic sort of approach I would say.


A cynical part of me always wondered if Prince was courting Pepsi-Cola with 'New Power Generation'. I'm relieved to learn that that was never the case.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #631 posted 09/16/19 9:40am

RODSERLING

JorisE73 said:

 



RODSERLING said:


JorisE73 said:

 



I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).



The Black album is out print since 25 years, and Is apparently included neither in the new WB deal, nor in the Sony deal, and wasn't even included in the Universal deal. . The rape lyrics is objectively a good reason to not release this song, in this "me too era". . Causing voluntarily some huge controversy for an artist that couldn't even defend himself since he is dead, would have devastating effects that couldn't be repaired. . The analogy that someone here made with the documentary against MJ is a good one. .


All the songs are readily available via whatever means to be scrutinized, if it would be so harmful in this #Me Too era it would have been a problem already.
Everyone famous was put under a loop when that whole #Me Too shit began, inlcuding Prince, and nobody said anything about his lyrical content. If they would then they would have to look into a huge pile of 90's to current Hip Hop for more deplorable stuff or even books. I think (or hope) these #Me Too people can distinguish actual rape accounts from fictional lyrics, as if Prince would really threaten to rape someone and sing about it lol I truly hope these #Me Too people aren't that dumb, and considering Prince hasn't been blamed of such things even though a lot of people and, I wouldn't doubt also #ME Too supporters, have heard these lyrics, especially after he died, I highly doubt he would ever be blamed just for his lyrics.



If you had to rule the prince business, would you seriously take the risk?
There is a difference between release the song in an event boxset with a pristine sound, and an obscure bootleg, that as a fan, I didn't even care to listen.
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But if it is release officially, every specialized media would talk about it, and would focus on it
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I m not saying this is a good journalism, but that's the logical today
[Edited 9/16/19 9:42am]
Reply #632 posted 09/16/19 11:30am

BartVanHemelen

eyewishuheaven said:

Strive said:

Dandroppedadime said:


A cynical part of me always wondered if Prince was courting Pepsi-Cola with 'New Power Generation'. I'm relieved to learn that that was never the case.

.

http://www.princevault.co...=Coca-Cola

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Reply #633 posted 09/16/19 11:43am

eyewishuheaven

BartVanHemelen said:

eyewishuheaven said:


A cynical part of me always wondered if Prince was courting Pepsi-Cola with 'New Power Generation'. I'm relieved to learn that that was never the case.

.

http://www.princevault.co...=Coca-Cola


Well, I'll be! At least he picked the better of the two. lol

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
Reply #634 posted 09/16/19 12:01pm

8up

Just ordered mine on vinyl. Can't wait!!!

Reply #635 posted 09/16/19 1:52pm

Gustavm

Can somebody clarify a couple of things for me?

1. Will the super deluxe vinyl set be on purple vinyl?

2. Will the super deluxe CD set have all the same booklets as the vinyl?

Reply #636 posted 09/16/19 2:02pm

mushmackalenta

I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.
Reply #637 posted 09/16/19 2:06pm

VaultCurator

Gustavm said:

Can somebody clarify a couple of things for me?

1. Will the super deluxe vinyl set be on purple vinyl?

2. Will the super deluxe CD set have all the same booklets as the vinyl?

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Hi Gustavm,

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According to https://www.superdeluxeed...-material/ all sets will be on black vinyl except for the 2LP edition which will be purple.

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The CD edition will include a smaller 48pp perfect bound booklet that will contain all of the track notes present in the vinyl version. It doesn’t state specifically if all the content will be the same, but I’m assuming it’s just a smaller version of the vinyl booklet.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #638 posted 09/16/19 2:10pm

VaultCurator

mushmackalenta said:

I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.

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Hi there.

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According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.

RIP EXTRALOVEABLE!!! sad
Reply #639 posted 09/16/19 4:58pm

controversy99

VaultCurator said:

 



mushmackalenta said:


I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.

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Hi there.


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According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.


Basically, it’s being released on “Black Friday”, which is the first day of the Christmas shopping season in the USA. It’s the day after our thanksgiving holiday, which the 4th Thursday in Nov.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
Reply #640 posted 09/16/19 5:02pm

controversy99

rdhull said:

 



controversy99 said:


All I know baby is what I see is good ... How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore (take 2) —- yes, I’m excited for that . Don’t need no refer, don’t need cocaine ... 1999 Deluxe should do the same to my brain. And I’ll get high, so high, in November. —- yaaass! . Darlin. It appears to me. ... International Lover. I hope you are an acoustic piano version . Turn it up! Turn it up baby! ... that’s what I’m planning to do. . I am definitely looking forward to this.

I agree with this post, and its funny.


Glad you enjoyed it! I tried to keep it fun. 😀
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
Reply #641 posted 09/16/19 6:02pm

Gustavm

VaultCurator said:

Gustavm said:

Can somebody clarify a couple of things for me?

1. Will the super deluxe vinyl set be on purple vinyl?

2. Will the super deluxe CD set have all the same booklets as the vinyl?

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Hi Gustavm,

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According to https://www.superdeluxeed...-material/ all sets will be on black vinyl except for the 2LP edition which will be purple.

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The CD edition will include a smaller 48pp perfect bound booklet that will contain all of the track notes present in the vinyl version. It doesn’t state specifically if all the content will be the same, but I’m assuming it’s just a smaller version of the vinyl booklet.

Thanks!

Reply #642 posted 09/16/19 6:25pm

OnlyNDaUsa

controversy99 said:

VaultCurator said:

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Hi there.

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According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.

Basically, it’s being released on “Black Friday”, which is the first day of the Christmas shopping season in the USA. It’s the day after our thanksgiving holiday, which the 4th Thursday in Nov.

yeah I mentioned that and someone pretty much said I was wrong that shops would refuse to stock it! (based on a 4 year old article)

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #643 posted 09/16/19 9:14pm

mushmackalenta

VaultCurator said:

 



mushmackalenta said:


I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.

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Hi there.


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According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.



Thanks. I was hoping the release date was the same for both as I plan on getting the vinyl set.
Reply #644 posted 09/17/19 12:12am

JorisE73

dodger said:

JorisE73 said:


I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).

Seriously? I'm stating the obvious but those lyrics in today's day and age would be a big no. Same for Lust U Always. Personally I wish they both were included but you can understand why the powers that be chose otherwise.

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Mathieu Bitton said similar on Twitter.

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As for the Dez 'playful dis;' I cannot see how that would be an issue. It would even be a good talking point and anecdote for Dez etc to discuss in promo


Yes seriously. What's next, burning books for mentioning words people don't like?!

Reply #645 posted 09/17/19 12:14am

JorisE73

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:


All the songs are readily available via whatever means to be scrutinized, if it would be so harmful in this #Me Too era it would have been a problem already.
Everyone famous was put under a loop when that whole #Me Too shit began, inlcuding Prince, and nobody said anything about his lyrical content. If they would then they would have to look into a huge pile of 90's to current Hip Hop for more deplorable stuff or even books. I think (or hope) these #Me Too people can distinguish actual rape accounts from fictional lyrics, as if Prince would really threaten to rape someone and sing about it lol I truly hope these #Me Too people aren't that dumb, and considering Prince hasn't been blamed of such things even though a lot of people and, I wouldn't doubt also #ME Too supporters, have heard these lyrics, especially after he died, I highly doubt he would ever be blamed just for his lyrics.

If you had to rule the prince business, would you seriously take the risk? There is a difference between release the song in an event boxset with a pristine sound, and an obscure bootleg, that as a fan, I didn't even care to listen. . But if it is release officially, every specialized media would talk about it, and would focus on it . I m not saying this is a good journalism, but that's the logical today [Edited 9/16/19 9:42am]


Of course I would, this is Prince we're talking about. Prince's whole schtick was shock and controversy.

Reply #646 posted 09/17/19 12:42am

SoulAlive

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[Edited 9/17/19 0:53am]

Reply #647 posted 09/17/19 2:04am

dodger

JorisE73 said:

dodger said:

Seriously? I'm stating the obvious but those lyrics in today's day and age would be a big no. Same for Lust U Always. Personally I wish they both were included but you can understand why the powers that be chose otherwise.

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Mathieu Bitton said similar on Twitter.

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As for the Dez 'playful dis;' I cannot see how that would be an issue. It would even be a good talking point and anecdote for Dez etc to discuss in promo


Yes seriously. What's next, burning books for mentioning words people don't like?!

I agree it's ridiculous but it's the way it is now. My 12 year old daugther constantly accuses me of being offensive in one way or another. 'That's racist/sexist/stereo-typing' is all I get but kids are being told this in school and social media.

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In light of Sinead O'Connor's latest accusations though I guess the estate, from a business point of view, are glad they did not include these tracks. You can imagine the press running with the Prince rape lyrics and woman beater stories.

Reply #648 posted 09/17/19 3:12am

udo

dodger said:

My 12 year old daugther constantly accuses me of being offensive in one way or another.

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Act now:

Please explain her that saying stuff about the shape of things is weak.

She should be able (sooon...) to discern between the shape of things and the content of the things that are communicated.

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How many more days until that box set?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Reply #649 posted 09/17/19 8:39am

djdaffy1227

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
Reply #650 posted 09/17/19 9:46am

udo

djdaffy1227 said:

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol

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Wow!

You must be kinda the completist type? lol

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Reply #651 posted 09/17/19 10:54am

IstenSzek

djdaffy1227 said:

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol


meanwhile, some of us mere mortals are still contemplating if we can justify the expense of the CD box for ourselves lol



and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #652 posted 09/17/19 11:39am

sulls

IstenSzek said:

djdaffy1227 said:

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol


meanwhile, some of us mere mortals are still contemplating if we can justify the expense of the CD box for ourselves lol



ME. cool

"I like to watch."
Reply #653 posted 09/17/19 11:56am

djdaffy1227

udo said:

djdaffy1227 said:

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol

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Wow!

You must be kinda the completist type? lol

Unfortunately, yep lol

The guy who owns the record shop near me Private Messaged me on Facebook and said if I wanted him to order all three LP sets he would hold them for me until I can pay them off. So I am DJing an event this weekend and will just give him the money I make there, I will still have a little money left over. biggrin

The CD I ordered off Wal*Mart's website. It was the cheapest I found onine.

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
Reply #654 posted 09/17/19 2:47pm

SoulAlive

I pre-ordered the Super Deluxe CD box,but I really want the vinyl version too eek I never buy two versions of the same set,but I just might in this case.

Reply #655 posted 09/17/19 3:51pm

felixcat67

SoulAlive said:

I pre-ordered the Super Deluxe CD box,but I really want the vinyl version too   eek    I never buy two versions of the same set,but I just might in this case.



Was thinking the same but decided to get both super deluxe sets plus the limited 2 lp purple vinyl set. 1999 is the album that made me a fan in 1982.
Reply #656 posted 09/17/19 3:52pm

Moonbeam

SoulAlive said:

I pre-ordered the Super Deluxe CD box,but I really want the vinyl version too eek I never buy two versions of the same set,but I just might in this case.


I'm going to get both for sure. It's my favorite album ever and I can't help but have both! The stupid completionist in me is wondering about getting all of the sets, even the smaller ones. lol

Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
Reply #657 posted 09/17/19 3:56pm

OnlyNDaUsa

"Bold Generation" is said to be an early version of "New Power Generation" and it contains the word "Rearrange" which is another song on this set... I do not think it is a coincidence.

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #658 posted 09/17/19 4:16pm

soladeo1

OnlyNDaUsa said:

"Bold Generation" is said to be an early version of "New Power Generation" and it contains the word "Rearrange" which is another song on this set... I do not think it is a coincidence.

Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
Making love and music's the only things worth fighting for...


We are the Bold Generation, we want to change the world
The only thing that's in our way is you
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
We're sick and tired of you telling us what to do!!!

Reply #659 posted 09/17/19 4:28pm

OnlyNDaUsa

soladeo1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

"Bold Generation" is said to be an early version of "New Power Generation" and it contains the word "Rearrange" which is another song on this set... I do not think it is a coincidence.

Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
Making love and music's the only things worth fighting for...


We are the Bold Generation, we want to change the world
The only thing that's in our way is you
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
We're sick and tired of you telling us what to do!!!

I hope it is not that close...

If "Assault" rifles are banned... COPS first! If they want to TRY to take them from the PEOPLE they should set the example!
Reply #660 posted 09/17/19 6:49pm

controversy99

OnlyNDaUsa said:

controversy99 said:

VaultCurator said: Basically, it’s being released on “Black Friday”, which is the first day of the Christmas shopping season in the USA. It’s the day after our thanksgiving holiday, which the 4th Thursday in Nov.

yeah I mentioned that and someone pretty much said I was wrong that shops would refuse to stock it! (based on a 4 year old article)


I got your back on this one. It's definitely timed for Black Friday on purpose. But I can't see myself rushing out that morning in search of a store that has the Super Deluxe CD version. I bought Piano & a Mic 1983 in a store the morning it was released, but 1999 is probably gonna have to be online.

"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
Reply #661 posted 09/17/19 8:41pm

purplethunder3121

soladeo1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

"Bold Generation" is said to be an early version of "New Power Generation" and it contains the word "Rearrange" which is another song on this set... I do not think it is a coincidence.

Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
Making love and music's the only things worth fighting for...


We are the Bold Generation, we want to change the world
The only thing that's in our way is you
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
We're sick and tired of you telling us what to do!!!

Why does this remind me of the opening lyrics to The Monkee's theme song... razz confuse lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
Reply #662 posted 09/17/19 11:01pm

Strive

Amazon price matched Walmart.

$53.38 for 1999 Deluxe CD/DVD

$207.33 for 1999 Deluxe Vinyl

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #663 posted 09/18/19 7:46am

Genesia

purplethunder3121 said:

soladeo1 said:

Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
Making love and music's the only things worth fighting for...


We are the Bold Generation, we want to change the world
The only thing that's in our way is you
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
We're sick and tired of you telling us what to do!!!

Why does this remind me of the opening lyrics to The Monkee's theme song... razz confuse lol


There was absolutely nothing funky about the Monkees.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
Reply #664 posted 09/18/19 12:21pm

AnnaSantana

Genesia said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Why does this remind me of the opening lyrics to The Monkee's theme song... razz confuse lol


There was absolutely nothing funky about the Monkees.

"I'm not Your Stepping Stone" was kinda hittin...

Just kidding. wink lol

finger DONALD TRUMP

URL: https://prince.org/msg/7/460346/Prince-Classic-1999-Reissues-In-Remastered-5-CD-DVD-10-LP-DVD-Boxes-Release-November-29

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