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getwild180

The under the cherry moon premier in Wyoming

To bad his date was more into motley cru. Prince tried. You could tell she wasn't interested. But my question is is personality has really shined here. Was that the real Prince, the way he really was? He was out going and funny here. Most other videos of him shows him reserved and quiet.
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Reply #1 posted 07/03/19 10:01am

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Bless your heart.

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Reply #2 posted 07/03/19 10:02am

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proving theres a weird connection bewtween Prince and motley crue

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Reply #3 posted 07/03/19 10:26am

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proving theres a weird connection bewtween Prince and motley crue


There's already one since Tommy Lee fucked Mayte.

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Reply #4 posted 07/03/19 10:37am

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What ever happend to the movie they were going to make about this?

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Reply #5 posted 07/03/19 10:59am

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TrivialPursuit said:

jfenster said:

proving theres a weird connection bewtween Prince and motley crue


There's already one since Tommy Lee fucked Mayte.

duh....and vanity and nikki sixx...

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Reply #6 posted 07/03/19 11:48am

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jfenster said:

TrivialPursuit said:


There's already one since Tommy Lee fucked Mayte.

duh....and vanity and nikki sixx...


Someone was getting someone else's left overs. I'm surprised Vince didn't try to bed Carmen, or Mick ...oh hell, Mick ain't fuckin' anyone. lol

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Reply #7 posted 07/03/19 3:05pm

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getwild180 said:

To bad his date was more into motley cru. Prince tried. You could tell she wasn't interested. But my question is is personality has really shined here. Was that the real Prince, the way he really was? He was out going and funny here. Most other videos of him shows him reserved and quiet.

he was trying to change his tact a bit, trying to do the morris thing a little more, maybe it would have worked if the movie wasn't so bad. He generally looked happier during that period than any other I can think of. I think he had so many different sides to his personality that he could be like that or he could just as easily be withdrawn. his interview during the period with mojo was about a open and normal as I've ever heard the man in public. that's probably a huge part of how the people around him got to see him and we just got a glimpse.

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Reply #8 posted 07/03/19 7:40pm

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That's what I thought too. I've never seen him happier than this period. Either he's acting like Christopher or Morris Day lol
Maybe a little bit of both.
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Reply #9 posted 07/04/19 11:53am

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getwild180 said:

To bad his date was more into motley cru. Prince tried. You could tell she wasn't interested. But my question is is personality has really shined here. Was that the real Prince, the way he really was? He was out going and funny here. Most other videos of him shows him reserved and quiet.

I'll bite.

He tried to pull out of the whole "date" thing the very night before. That should tell you enough.

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Reply #10 posted 07/04/19 1:24pm

PeteSilas

odd thing was, they say he was pissed off after the concert (susan rogers) but he looked happy as could be during the show.

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Reply #11 posted 07/04/19 2:35pm

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odd thing was, they say he was pissed off after the concert (susan rogers) but he looked happy as could be during the show.

That MTV contest? How the hell could she be pissed when she was full aware what kind of artist Prince was!?

Edit: ohh that HE was pissed. I read everything wrong. So the plot thickens. hmmm

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odd thing was, they say he was pissed off after the concert (susan rogers) but he looked happy as could be during the show.


Who are "they"? He pissed Wendy off because she was having a beer and he tried to dock her pay. She told him she wasn't having it. He was such a noodge sometime.

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Reply #13 posted 07/05/19 4:37am

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TrivialPursuit said:

PeteSilas said:

odd thing was, they say he was pissed off after the concert (susan rogers) but he looked happy as could be during the show.


Who are "they"? He pissed Wendy off because she was having a beer and he tried to dock her pay. She told him she wasn't having it. He was such a noodge sometime.

It's a common misconception that this altercation with Wendy happened that very night. It did not.

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Reply #14 posted 07/05/19 8:45am

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TrivialPursuit said:

PeteSilas said:

odd thing was, they say he was pissed off after the concert (susan rogers) but he looked happy as could be during the show.


Who are "they"? He pissed Wendy off because she was having a beer and he tried to dock her pay. She told him she wasn't having it. He was such a noodge sometime.

is this when he allegedly hit her??

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Reply #15 posted 07/05/19 8:52am

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droppingdishes said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Who are "they"? He pissed Wendy off because she was having a beer and he tried to dock her pay. She told him she wasn't having it. He was such a noodge sometime.

It's a common misconception that this altercation with Wendy happened that very night. It did not.


I never said it was that night. It was on the visit to Sheridan, to my knowledge. I don't know what night it happened.

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Reply #16 posted 07/05/19 12:31pm

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droppingdishes said:

It's a common misconception that this altercation with Wendy happened that very night. It did not.


I never said it was that night. It was on the visit to Sheridan, to my knowledge. I don't know what night it happened.

Oh, I never said you did. I was just saying. Wendy apparently had a beer with Joni Mitchell at the hotel bar after the show, but since Prince supposedly found out about via a newspaper report, the actual altercation with Wendy about it must have been at least the day after, if not several (depending on when this report would have been published and when Prince found out about it). I have tried to deduct what newspaper report this must have been but haven't found it so far.

The more popular myth is he ran into Wendy nursing a beer, but that's pure... myth.

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Reply #17 posted 07/05/19 12:57pm

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i think susan said it happened the day after the show, the interviews are there if someone wants to check. But they say the relationship started to deteriorate right there. And it's well known that Wendy and Lisa weren't crazy about the dancers and horns. even matt fink got in the act saying prince wanted to hang around "with his black buddies" (uhh, matt, he actually is black you know).

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Reply #18 posted 07/05/19 12:58pm

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jfenster said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Who are "they"? He pissed Wendy off because she was having a beer and he tried to dock her pay. She told him she wasn't having it. He was such a noodge sometime.

is this when he allegedly hit her??

who said he hit her, I never heard nothing like that.

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Reply #19 posted 07/05/19 4:13pm

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droppingdishes said:

Oh, I never said you did. I was just saying. Wendy apparently had a beer with Joni Mitchell at the hotel bar after the show, but since Prince supposedly found out about via a newspaper report, the actual altercation with Wendy about it must have been at least the day after, if not several (depending on when this report would have been published and when Prince found out about it). I have tried to deduct what newspaper report this must have been but haven't found it so far.

The more popular myth is he ran into Wendy nursing a beer, but that's pure... myth.


I'm really glad Wendy was bold enough to give his shit back to him. He was a little tyrant sometimes, and she wasn't afraid to tell him to shoot it back to him. I think he ultimately respected that. He wanted strong people around him, not yes men.

But to try and tell someone they can't have a beer...


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Reply #20 posted 07/08/19 1:23pm

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getwild180 said:

To bad his date was more into motley cru. Prince tried. You could tell she wasn't interested. But my question is is personality has really shined here. Was that the real Prince, the way he really was? He was out going and funny here. Most other videos of him shows him reserved and quiet.

Do you know she was more into Motley Crue? I checked out an article on the event which quotes Lisa Barber: "This is the biggest thing that's ever happened here. I love Prince. I've seen 'Purple Rain' thirteen times."

I read somewhere that she never got married. I wonder about the impact on her personal life, coming so close to fame. At the time of the world premiere of UTCM, she was 20 yo, a hotel worker, and living with her mother in a trailer park.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

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Reply #21 posted 07/08/19 4:09pm

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I feel for Lisa Barber.

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Reply #22 posted 07/08/19 4:39pm

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PeteSilas said:



jfenster said:




TrivialPursuit said:




Who are "they"? He pissed Wendy off because she was having a beer and he tried to dock her pay. She told him she wasn't having it. He was such a noodge sometime.



is this when he allegedly hit her??



who said he hit her, I never heard nothing like that.


Sinead O’Connor recently stated publicly (there was a thread about it here) that Prince put Wendy in the hospital. She said he beat her up during a fight they were having. Hard to know what is really true, because Sinead has mental health issues and Wendy did not respond to her remarks.
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I know the story about Prince and Wendy fighting after him seeing a picture of Wendy having a beer with Joni, however, I think I remember reading that he caught her walking back to her hotel room with a beer in her hand. He went off on her about it, and then docked her pay. She said she knew that wasn’t all just about the beer - she knew it was more than that.
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Reply #23 posted 07/08/19 4:53pm

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violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

who said he hit her, I never heard nothing like that.

Sinead O’Connor recently stated publicly (there was a thread about it here) that Prince put Wendy in the hospital. She said he beat her up during a fight they were having. Hard to know what is really true, because Sinead has mental health issues and Wendy did not respond to her remarks. * I know the story about Prince and Wendy fighting after him seeing a picture of Wendy having a beer with Joni, however, I think I remember reading that he caught her walking back to her hotel room with a beer in her hand. He went off on her about it, and then docked her pay. She said she knew that wasn’t all just about the beer - she knew it was more than that.

So, anyone with „mental health issues“ is a possible liar or what? Give me a break!

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Sinead O’Connor recently stated publicly (there was a thread about it here) that Prince put Wendy in the hospital. She said he beat her up during a fight they were having. Hard to know what is really true, because Sinead has mental health issues and Wendy did not respond to her remarks. * I know the story about Prince and Wendy fighting after him seeing a picture of Wendy having a beer with Joni, however, I think I remember reading that he caught her walking back to her hotel room with a beer in her hand. He went off on her about it, and then docked her pay. She said she knew that wasn’t all just about the beer - she knew it was more than that.


Bless her heart, Sinead also said he was violent toward her or something. So - good vibes to her, but I take what she says with a grain of salt.

It's almost like Prince was purposely trying to drive Wendy & Lisa away by pulling these stupid stunts. It's highly doubtful they signed a morality clause, so I'm sure she had words with him. But not fisticuffs.

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Reply #25 posted 07/08/19 5:57pm

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nonesuch said:

violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said: Sinead O’Connor recently stated publicly (there was a thread about it here) that Prince put Wendy in the hospital. She said he beat her up during a fight they were having. Hard to know what is really true, because Sinead has mental health issues and Wendy did not respond to her remarks. * I know the story about Prince and Wendy fighting after him seeing a picture of Wendy having a beer with Joni, however, I think I remember reading that he caught her walking back to her hotel room with a beer in her hand. He went off on her about it, and then docked her pay. She said she knew that wasn’t all just about the beer - she knew it was more than that.

So, anyone with „mental health issues“ is a possible liar or what? Give me a break!

i wouldn't believe shit sinead says, she said arsenio was his supplier too, which is stupid as fuck, arsenio threatened to sue her over that one and I think she backed off on that. As far as women/violence, the only time I heard anything that sounded believable was in the bios, jill jones got her wrist broken by him, I could see that, dealing with the pressures and so on, but I don't think it was a habit of his to do that. Most of the women who worked with him say he was great to work with in many ways, other than being difficult and too demanding. susan rogers tells an amusing story of how she was warned about working with him alone, she never had an issue in terms of harassment or physical abuse and she saw a lot of him, so, whatever violence he may have acted out on, I don't think it was habitual.

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Reply #26 posted 07/09/19 4:32am

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violetcrush said:

PeteSilas said:

who said he hit her, I never heard nothing like that.

Sinead O’Connor recently stated publicly (there was a thread about it here) that Prince put Wendy in the hospital. She said he beat her up during a fight they were having. Hard to know what is really true, because Sinead has mental health issues and Wendy did not respond to her remarks. * I know the story about Prince and Wendy fighting after him seeing a picture of Wendy having a beer with Joni, however, I think I remember reading that he caught her walking back to her hotel room with a beer in her hand. He went off on her about it, and then docked her pay. She said she knew that wasn’t all just about the beer - she knew it was more than that.

As I stated above, the mythical hotel confrontation with Wendy never happened as Prince only found out about "the beer" through a newspaper report.

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nonesuch said:



violetcrush said:


PeteSilas said:


who said he hit her, I never heard nothing like that.



Sinead O’Connor recently stated publicly (there was a thread about it here) that Prince put Wendy in the hospital. She said he beat her up during a fight they were having. Hard to know what is really true, because Sinead has mental health issues and Wendy did not respond to her remarks. * I know the story about Prince and Wendy fighting after him seeing a picture of Wendy having a beer with Joni, however, I think I remember reading that he caught her walking back to her hotel room with a beer in her hand. He went off on her about it, and then docked her pay. She said she knew that wasn’t all just about the beer - she knew it was more than that.

So, anyone with „mental health issues“ is a possible liar or what? Give me a break!


Sinead has been posting videos of herself where she was speaking in an erratic manner - not cohesive and clearly disturbed. I did not state that one who has mental health issues is a liar, however, it was during that period when she was stating Prince beat up Wendy and Arsenio was the drug connection for Eddie Murphy and his crew. So, her credibility dwindled quite a bit based on what was happening with her at that time. Is it truth or just attention-grabbing?
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That being said, this is a woman who had no problem tearing a picture of the Pope in half on national television in 1990 - well before any scandals broke about the Catholic Church. She was never afraid to speak her mind. So, some of what she has said may very well be true. I think she backed off of her claims about Arsenio, because, while he may not be rolling in the $$$ like he used to be, I’m sure he has considerably more than she does, as well as, friends like Eddie Murphy who would support him. She would not be able to win that legal fight, especially with no solid proof.
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PeteSilas said:

nonesuch said:

So, anyone with „mental health issues“ is a possible liar or what? Give me a break!

i wouldn't believe shit sinead says, she said arsenio was his supplier too, which is stupid as fuck, arsenio threatened to sue her over that one and I think she backed off on that. As far as women/violence, the only time I heard anything that sounded believable was in the bios, jill jones got her wrist broken by him, I could see that, dealing with the pressures and so on, but I don't think it was a habit of his to do that. Most of the women who worked with him say he was great to work with in many ways, other than being difficult and too demanding. susan rogers tells an amusing story of how she was warned about working with him alone, she never had an issue in terms of harassment or physical abuse and she saw a lot of him, so, whatever violence he may have acted out on, I don't think it was habitual.

He actually did break Jill Jonse's wrist? Was she really quoted by saying that? If that is indeed true, my respect for Prince will be bung into the bin.

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Reply #29 posted 07/09/19 1:10pm

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ya, it's been discussed here before, i'll search for it and see what I find, it's been in a book or two. Word was, she didn't complain too much because prince employed her father. Good people do bad things sometimes, Elvis broke some woman's ankle when she made a smartassed remark, the pressures I would say have something to do with those kinds of outbursts and they weren't exactly Ike Turner if you get my drift. Of course today, that kind of violence is really frowned upon as it should be.

nonesuch said:

PeteSilas said:

i wouldn't believe shit sinead says, she said arsenio was his supplier too, which is stupid as fuck, arsenio threatened to sue her over that one and I think she backed off on that. As far as women/violence, the only time I heard anything that sounded believable was in the bios, jill jones got her wrist broken by him, I could see that, dealing with the pressures and so on, but I don't think it was a habit of his to do that. Most of the women who worked with him say he was great to work with in many ways, other than being difficult and too demanding. susan rogers tells an amusing story of how she was warned about working with him alone, she never had an issue in terms of harassment or physical abuse and she saw a lot of him, so, whatever violence he may have acted out on, I don't think it was habitual.

He actually did break Jill Jonse's wrist? Was she really quoted by saying that? If that is indeed true, my respect for Prince will be bung into the bin.

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