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Reply #30 posted 06/19/19 4:08am

dodger

benni said:

chaocracy said:

I was at both shows and I think people are making them about to be more than they are because of his passing. They were just ok to me. I was also at the party the Saturday before his passing where they played portions with the Atlanta show I think and both had audience screaming over them, I might listen to them again if they came out but not high on my list at all.


The Black Sweat version that Prince had released from the Atlanta show was definitely better than the fan releases which were not mixed. They may have played some of the Atlanta shows, but I doubt that they were mixed to decrease the sound of the audience, which any good "live" recording will do, so that the crowd does not take away from the actual music itself.

I seem to recall P was quoted as saying at the party something like 'this show is being mixed to edit the crowd noise then we'll release it'

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So yes, especially if this was one of his last wishes/statements this should be released in some form

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Reply #31 posted 06/19/19 5:10am

AvocadosMax

Dimitri10 said:

Hmmm could get a bit confusing as they have already released -



Prince - Piano & A Microphone 1983, dont think they should have used this title.



Anyway you guys probably seen IMAV captured “Piano and a Microphone” Gala event 2016" I would pay the big bucks for this release anyday - bring it on.



https://www.imav.pro/news...icrophone/





I’m still exactly 69.21% sure there are better recordings of him jamming out on the piano that would have made for a better release. Sure this was cool and good for the cringe general music audience to hear; but if they were saying to themselves “you know that one good bootleg? Let’s find those original cassette tapes [or whatever] and release that!” Then they could have also used some other early eighties piano rehearsals, like that one 15 minute instrumental medley. That along with something else could have been on a deluxe edition. But no, who ever ahead of these releases really just doesn’t care at all about the fans or his legacy. They just want to milk the cow dry.
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Reply #32 posted 06/19/19 5:11am

leecaldon

Dimitri10 said:

Agree, + DVD from PP Gala 21 Jan 2016 is a must.

This would be my #1 pick from the vault. Make it Blu ray though smile

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Reply #33 posted 06/19/19 5:13am

AvocadosMax

leecaldon said:



Dimitri10 said:


Agree, + DVD from PP Gala 21 Jan 2016 is a must.




This would be my #1 pick from the vault. Make it Blu ray though smile


It would be nice if the estate and/or Warner Bros could discover that cool technology that allows you to digitally remaster old film and thus release it on blu ray and not an outdated source of media sharing

So older video can look good along with stuff like from 2013 or as you said
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Reply #34 posted 06/19/19 7:52am

Genesia

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AvocadosMax said:

leecaldon said:

This would be my #1 pick from the vault. Make it Blu ray though smile

It would be nice if the estate and/or Warner Bros could discover that cool technology that allows you to digitally remaster old film and thus release it on blu ray and not an outdated source of media sharing So older video can look good along with stuff like from 2013 or as you said


OMG - NO!!!!! Mustn't tamper with ANYTHING!!!! omfg mad

(Sorry - preemptive freakout.)

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #35 posted 06/19/19 11:31am

AvocadosMax

Genesia said:



AvocadosMax said:


leecaldon said:



This would be my #1 pick from the vault. Make it Blu ray though smile



It would be nice if the estate and/or Warner Bros could discover that cool technology that allows you to digitally remaster old film and thus release it on blu ray and not an outdated source of media sharing So older video can look good along with stuff like from 2013 or as you said


OMG - NO!!!!! Mustn't tamper with ANYTHING!!!! omfg mad

(Sorry - preemptive freakout.)


You don’t want Sign O The Times or that atrocious Purple Rain Syracuse concert to look better?
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Reply #36 posted 06/19/19 11:48am

Genesia

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AvocadosMax said:

Genesia said:


OMG - NO!!!!! Mustn't tamper with ANYTHING!!!! omfg mad

(Sorry - preemptive freakout.)

You don’t want Sign O The Times or that atrocious Purple Rain Syracuse concert to look better?


That whistling sound you heard was the joke flying over your head.

Have you read any of the hundreds of posts in which people freaked out over "improvements" made to tracks since Prince died?

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #37 posted 06/20/19 9:45am

AvocadosMax

Genesia said:



AvocadosMax said:


Genesia said:



OMG - NO!!!!! Mustn't tamper with ANYTHING!!!! omfg mad

(Sorry - preemptive freakout.)



You don’t want Sign O The Times or that atrocious Purple Rain Syracuse concert to look better?


That whistling sound you heard was the joke flying over your head.

Have you read any of the hundreds of posts in which people freaked out over "improvements" made to tracks since Prince died?


I didn’t even hear the whistling sound lol

Sometimes it’s a challenge to know if one’s joking or not over the internet
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Reply #38 posted 06/20/19 9:58am

Genesia

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AvocadosMax said:

Genesia said:


That whistling sound you heard was the joke flying over your head.

Have you read any of the hundreds of posts in which people freaked out over "improvements" made to tracks since Prince died?

I didn’t even hear the whistling sound lol Sometimes it’s a challenge to know if one’s joking or not over the internet


lol

No worries - especially since there are plenty of people here who would have had that reaction and NOT been joking.

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Reply #39 posted 06/22/19 7:25am

TrcikyChristop
her

Dimitri10 said:

Hmmm could get a bit confusing as they have already released -

Prince - Piano & A Microphone 1983, dont think they should have used this title.

Anyway you guys probably seen IMAV captured “Piano and a Microphone” Gala event 2016" I would pay the big bucks for this release anyday - bring it on.

https://www.imav.pro/news...icrophone/


That title was used because of the intention to fully release the Paisley show(s) on video to Netflix or Apple Music (depending on how well the upcoming documentaries go) with an accompanying audio of the Atlanta shows as he intended. It's seen as a prelude or teaser.

Ava is working on the Netflix documentary still and according to what I have been told the First Ave 1983 documentary is pretty much finished and ready to go - and has been for around 2 years.

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Reply #40 posted 06/22/19 9:24am

violetcrush

AvocadosMax said:

These last shows were basically his memoirs. He didn’t just prove to the world that all a real performer needs is an instrument, a microphone and an audience to put on a good show, he was telling a story. Well many stories. He went in-depth about the inspiration and stories behind certain songs, he talked about his father teaching him rhythm, first playing the piano then saying to himself “I wish I could sing...” then of course going on to be on of the best male vocalists ever... It really felt like he was sharing with the world who Prince Rogers Nelson truly was: the young man who got himself a record deal when he was only 19; the man who got him to where he got him there This is why the estate should stop playing games and not only consider to officially release these shows, but do it properly. The main album released should be his very last show in Atlanta. That’s something Warner Bros can use to market it... “LISTEN TO PRINCE’S VERY LAST LIVE RECORDING” Disc 2 or Disc 3/4 on that set should be a compilation of Piano & a Microphone. Choose the best story-telling moments so it feels like it’s the best representation of the story Prince was trying to tell at that time. Then there should be a boxset containing all of the shows. This one is obviously for the hardcore fans.

The first two P & M shows - the Gala shows January 21st, 2016 - especially the first one, are the shows where he really opens up, and literally walks through his childhood, teenage, and young adult years up through Purple Rain. He was sequencing the songs in order of the time frame. It's amazing to listen to him telling his story through the songs. I have listened to both shows, and they are fantastic - especially the first one. He opens up about his life and feelings. Even before performing The Beautiful Ones he stated, "don't let the fellas fool you. We all write songs to "cop" girls". He had denied the long held story of this song which was that it was (at least partly) written because the girl he wanted was in a relationship with another guy at the time.

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The last two Atlanta shows are incredibly important too - by then he had really polished the show and was mixing things up. He was doing "mash-ups" of songs which sound amazing. Waiting in Vain and IIWYG is such a great mix. I also can't help thinking that on some level he may have known this might be his last big show. The fact that he ended with Purple Rain, and it was his strongest and most heartfelt version of the song on that tour is very telling.

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He was reminiscing and opening up emotionally during many of these shows including the day after Vanity passed. His tribute to her was very touching. I think a Disc/release of the first two Gala shows and the last two Atlanta shows along with highlights of some of the other shows would be fantastic. I hope they get it together and do it.

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Reply #41 posted 06/22/19 11:45am

jfenster

i would think even the casual music listener would be interested in his final live recording...whats the hold up???

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Reply #42 posted 06/22/19 12:15pm

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jfenster said:

i would think even the casual music listener would be interested in his final live recording...whats the hold up???


Well I for one don’t want this rushed. Like I mentioned before, it needs to be done with tact and as part of a bigger project such as a documentary. (As it seems is hopefully the case)

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