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Reply #480 posted 06/17/19 8:59pm

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udo said:



stillwaiting said:


With 6 of his last 8 releases in variations of the Paper cases, not a shock to me...



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Perhaps not a shock but still a sign of a lack of quality.


Jewel cases were the standard until the cheap$kates found out about cardboard.



Who even buys CD’s? And jewel case are not more necessarily expensive than cardboard. Lol. I’d say it probably costs more.
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Reply #481 posted 06/17/19 9:01pm

udo

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Who even buys CD’s?

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Some people do.

People that do not panic when the ipod/phone or whatever device goes kaputt.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #482 posted 06/17/19 11:49pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:


Who even buys CD’s?


I do, but only with those few artist I want to support in that way. MJ, Prince, Madonna, Janet. I bought the Motley Crue soundtrack for The Dirt. That was the first CD since the Purple Rain Deluxe stuff when I did an "Unboxing Prince" video. So needless to say, it's a rare occasion.

Oh, I did buy Man of the Woods on CD and the wood grain orange vinyl.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #483 posted 06/18/19 12:41am

Moonbeam

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This is such a blast to listen to. It might be my favorite Prince release since The Gold Experience.

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Reply #484 posted 06/18/19 12:45am

antonb

udo said:

antonb said:

Back on track . There is a booklet with the CD with info on it.

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Not the necesary info.

Theres plenty of info on these tracks on princevault etc. The basic info is really all you need on a cd.

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Reply #485 posted 06/18/19 2:50am

olb99

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udo said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Who even buys CD’s?

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Some people do.

People that do not panic when the ipod/phone or whatever device goes kaputt.

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I buy FLAC files (or MP3 files, if FLAC files are not available) and stream them from my own server. I don't panic when streaming services don't have the music I own or the exact version of a release or song I own. I can stream my music to any device I want. I guess I would panic if my house burned down, but my data would be safely backed up online and offline (at another location). biggrin

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Anyway, not buying physical releases, I like when a booklet is available as a PDF file. I don't spend a lot of time reading it, as much of the information is available elsewhere (Musicbrainz, Discogs, Wikipedia, etc.), but it's always nice to have.

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I don't care about CD cases, though. wink

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Reply #486 posted 06/18/19 3:05am

fabriziovenera
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First italian review:

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https://www.rockol.it/rec...-originals

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4/5 stars

The review doesn't tell nothing new about the release

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Reply #487 posted 06/18/19 5:50am

thedoorkeeper

Just got the new Springsteen CD.
Its a cardboard case. I prefer cardboard over a jewel case.
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Reply #488 posted 06/18/19 6:23am

Holmes

I think this release is a real shame as the music itself is great, but there is far too much reverb on these mixes. The reverb decay times are too long and the levels are way too high in the mix. It sounds out of place and is not at all true to Prince's production aesthetic. He'd never have used that much reverb. Especially on the funk tracks, he typically would've kept things a lot drier.


I hope that on subsequent releases they put a lot more care into the mixes and the application of any additional effects. I think they should consult producers with intimate knowledge of Prince's production style and former engineers and associates.

[Edited 6/18/19 6:27am]

[Edited 6/19/19 5:49am]

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Reply #489 posted 06/18/19 7:18am

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Kares said:



feeluupp said:


So the regular cd seems to have no real booklet or liner notes, just a single fold out page:




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This is a joke.
I'll refuse to buy the so-called "deluxe" edition for £50 just to get liner notes with the same music content.
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Time to take action. I've had enough.


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[Edited 6/17/19 8:13am]



Go get ‘em tiger!
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Reply #490 posted 06/18/19 7:28am

rdhull

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Someone on tudahls fb page said:
it's a sad state of affairs when not exclusive musical content but sleevenotes make the difference between regular and deluxe editions...
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #491 posted 06/18/19 8:28am

nextedition

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udo said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


Who even buys CD’s?

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Some people do.


People that do not panic when the ipod/phone or whatever device goes kaputt.



And when the cdplayer goes kaputt?
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Reply #492 posted 06/18/19 8:42am

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nextedition said:

udo said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


Who even buys CD’s?

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Some people do.


People that do not panic when the ipod/phone or whatever device goes kaputt.



And when the cdplayer goes kaputt?

You buy a new one and still buy cds to download to other devices
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #493 posted 06/18/19 9:02am

databank

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rdhull said:

nextedition said:
And when the cdplayer goes kaputt?
You buy a new one and still buy cds to download to other devices

To each their own, I used to have over 800 CDs and over 200 cassettes and fancy tem deeply, but that doesn't make much of a difference in the end, it's just a matter of personal preference. My digital collection is on 4 different drives, 2 of which are at 2 different people's places in a different country than the one I live in. My chances of losing my music collection is virtually zer0 unless civilization collapses and power isn't available anymore.

Streaming I don't do, records can be subject to removal, but as most people won't lose their internet connection durably and few records will be removed, the risk is minimal as well if you're happy with just what is on streaming services (which I ain't).

On the other hand, if your house burns or gets robbed or is subject to a giant dinosaur attack, which is unlikely and something I wouldn't wish to anybody but in the realm of possible, unless you purchase another copy of each CD and store it someplace else, or have an insurance strong enough for you to purchase everything again overnight, you lose it all at once.

So there is no valid argument that can support physical collerctions over digital ones in this day and age, except for personal preference, which is totally respectable.

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Reply #494 posted 06/18/19 9:05am

Ugot2shakesumt
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rdhull said:

nextedition said:


And when the cdplayer goes kaputt?

You buy a new one and still buy cds to download to other devices


It’s a matter of what you’re comfortable with. Older people are comfortable with whatever was common when they were younger including hair styles and fashion.
CD’s are a dead media walking. You’ll eventually have to cope with less and less options available for buying and consuming it. Plus can lose or damage your cd if it scratches or whatever.

My old records and CD’s languish somewhere at home as for me it far simpler to listen on whatever gadget happens to be on me or connected to to.

Alexa, Siri, Cortana, Google, play Bitches Brew by Miles Davis...
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Reply #495 posted 06/18/19 9:13am

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databank said:



rdhull said:


nextedition said:
And when the cdplayer goes kaputt?

You buy a new one and still buy cds to download to other devices

To each their own, p>



No shit Sherlock

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #496 posted 06/18/19 9:14am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said:


You buy a new one and still buy cds to download to other devices


It’s a matter of what you’re comfortable with.

Duh
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #497 posted 06/18/19 9:25am

Ugot2shakesumt
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rdhull said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:



It’s a matter of what you’re comfortable with.

Duh



I was expecting “get off my lawn”
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Reply #498 posted 06/18/19 9:39am

rdhull

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said:


Duh



I was expecting “get off my lawn”

Why?
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #499 posted 06/18/19 9:41am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Alexa, Siri, Cortana, Google, play Bitches Brew by Miles Davis...

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Ok, but which version? The original mix? The 1999 remix by Mark Wilder? The deluxe reissue? I have 7 different versions of the album on my server (including a transfer of the SQ Quadraphonic LP)... biggrin

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Reply #500 posted 06/18/19 9:54am

Ugot2shakesumt
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rdhull said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:




I was expecting “get off my lawn”

Why?



You’re living in the past lol
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Reply #501 posted 06/18/19 9:57am

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I'm a bit confused by the hostility of some fellow orgers here. I know I sometimes was an ass to fellow orgers in the past, I apologize for that. I've (hopefully) grown and I'm really trying to make amends now by remaining civil in all circumstances. I'm sorry if I've pissed the shit out of some of you in the past, I can't change that, I can only try and be nicer from now on.

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Reply #502 posted 06/18/19 10:04am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said:


Why?



You’re living in the past lol


But I’ve explained I buy cd’s and also do current ways of listening such as downloading etc. I do both old school and current.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #503 posted 06/18/19 10:06am

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shrug..but I’m damn sure not paying 60 dollars for a vinyl or a deluxe cd with just added essay
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Reply #504 posted 06/18/19 10:14am

Ugot2shakesumt
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rdhull said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:




You’re living in the past lol


But I’ve explained I buy cd’s and also do current ways of listening such as downloading etc. I do both old school and current.


Yeah but you didn’t post or address the rest of my comment you responded to that you’re going to have to cope with the change of technologies. I. Sure you do realize that older technologies are not supported after a certain point. You’re at the edge of that ledge.
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Reply #505 posted 06/18/19 10:19am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said:



But I’ve explained I buy cd’s and also do current ways of listening such as downloading etc. I do both old school and current.


Yeah but you didn’t post or address the rest of my comment you responded to that you’re going to have to cope with the change of technologies. I. Sure you do realize that older technologies are not supported after a certain point. You’re at the edge of that ledge.

I responded to what was needed cause u presumed I don’t have or use current technology just because I said what people can do if they buy cds and the cds get lost etc. And with that, why even bother with answering fully?
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #506 posted 06/18/19 10:42am

Ugot2shakesumt
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rdhull said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:



Yeah but you didn’t post or address the rest of my comment you responded to that you’re going to have to cope with the change of technologies. I. Sure you do realize that older technologies are not supported after a certain point. You’re at the edge of that ledge.

I responded to what was needed cause u presumed I don’t have or use current technology just because I said what people can do if they buy cds and the cds get lost etc. And with that, why even bother with answering fully?


You responded like a child and ignored the rest because you did not like the implications.

Lets be honest.

And those who bitch about the physical CD’s should be glad that the dying media is even supported, much less made fancier only for no one but an ungrateful minority buying them.
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Reply #507 posted 06/18/19 11:14am

stillwaiting

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

udo said:

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Perhaps not a shock but still a sign of a lack of quality.

Jewel cases were the standard until the cheap$kates found out about cardboard.

Who even buys CD’s? And jewel case are not more necessarily expensive than cardboard. Lol. I’d say it probably costs more.

As of 2017, More units sold were in downloads, but cd and vinyl revenue combined was still higher, which is likely due to older people buying physical media, and the few artists that release value oriented multi-disc sets. And sound quality is a big deal to older people who don't want crap mp3 brickwalled to death, however even though cds are bought by older people, the trend is to brickwall them to death too. Sad.

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Reply #508 posted 06/18/19 11:41am

Ugot2shakesumt
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stillwaiting said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


udo said:


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Perhaps not a shock but still a sign of a lack of quality.


Jewel cases were the standard until the cheap$kates found out about cardboard.



Who even buys CD’s? And jewel case are not more necessarily expensive than cardboard. Lol. I’d say it probably costs more.


As of 2017, More units sold were in downloads, but cd and vinyl revenue combined was still higher, which is likely due to older people buying physical media, and the few artists that release value oriented multi-disc sets. And sound quality is a big deal to older people who don't want crap mp3 brickwalled to death, however even though cds are bought by older people, the trend is to brickwall them to death too. Sad.



That’s only part of the story. Downloads and streaming are not the same. Both are digital but revenue from streaming is 5.7 billion while physical sales is only 1.5 billion in revenue. So combined digital media far far surpasses physically media. Not only that, it’s regional. Those physical sales are in countries like Japan not the US where Prince’s largest base is.
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Reply #509 posted 06/18/19 11:49am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

stillwaiting said:

As of 2017, More units sold were in downloads, but cd and vinyl revenue combined was still higher, which is likely due to older people buying physical media, and the few artists that release value oriented multi-disc sets. And sound quality is a big deal to older people who don't want crap mp3 brickwalled to death, however even though cds are bought by older people, the trend is to brickwall them to death too. Sad.

That’s only part of the story. Downloads and streaming are not the same. Both are digital but revenue from streaming is 5.7 billion while physical sales is only 1.5 billion in revenue. So combined digital media far far surpasses physically media. Not only that, it’s regional. Those physical sales are in countries like Japan not the US where Prince’s largest base is.

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Physical media are on their way out. Like it or not, it's that way it is. Same with movies and books. It was never a matter of opinions, that's what the vast majority of people dig and that's what dictates the market. It doesn't matter, music will still be music, films will always be films and books will always be books no matter the format.

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