violetcrush said:

Romeoblu said:

To me this is totally acceptable. Some others seem to think not. I also agree Love... Thy will be done is one of his best songs ever to be given away and I much prefer the Martika version.

Martika’s Version is great, but the song sounded beautiful when Prince sang it live. I’m sure his original recording is beautiful too. Martika also added extra vocals and instrumental to her version. I’m guessing Prince’s will be a “stripped down” version. * For me, most of the Prince versions of songs he gave away are better - Come Home, 101, Train, 5 Women, etc. Looking forward to hearing his original of LTWBD.

We have P's original version in bootleg form, it indeed lacks certain extra arrangements but works nonetheless. There's always the possibility that yet another mix exists that will be here but my money is on it being the same version.

databank said:

TheEnglishGent said:

So am I the only person excited for this? Got shitty versions of most of these, so having great versions is something I'm looking forward to. Not sure I've even heard a version of Manic Monday with Prince on lead or Jungle Love.

Looking forward to this.

having not heard any Prince versions of any of these i am really excited about this release.

TrevorAyer said:

We all thought we were getting familiar versions of dance electric and electric intercourse and look how that turned out .. it is very possible that no nc2u mix with prince exists in the vault .. I don’t believe they waste 1/4 inch tape for ruf mixes if they don’t have to .. if this was intended for the family to sing it seems likely prince made a ruf mix on cassette only to give to st paul .. especially if the intention was to use prince same instrumental tracks ... good chance a lot of this new release comes from cassettes... unless they truly have made progress on sorting the vault .. so far we have no evidence that they have much from the actual master tapes yet

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I'm sorry but no-one in their right mind mixes straight to a compact cassette. And "wasting 1/4" tape"? The cost of 1/4" tape was negligible compared to studio costs while the quality difference between a 30ips, 1/4" tape and a compact cassette is so big it would be a ridiculous decision to use the latter just to save a couple of dollars. So I think we can safely rule that out. There must be a professional mixdown tape with Prince's vocals.

Kares said:

TrevorAyer said:

We all thought we were getting familiar versions of dance electric and electric intercourse and look how that turned out .. it is very possible that no nc2u mix with prince exists in the vault .. I don’t believe they waste 1/4 inch tape for ruf mixes if they don’t have to .. if this was intended for the family to sing it seems likely prince made a ruf mix on cassette only to give to st paul .. especially if the intention was to use prince same instrumental tracks ... good chance a lot of this new release comes from cassettes... unless they truly have made progress on sorting the vault .. so far we have no evidence that they have much from the actual master tapes yet

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I'm sorry but no-one in their right mind mixes straight to a compact cassette. And "wasting 1/4" tape"? The cost of 1/4" tape was negligible compared to studio costs while the quality difference between a 30ips, 1/4" tape and a compact cassette is so big it would be a ridiculous decision to use the latter just to save a couple of dollars. So I think we can safely rule that out. There must be a professional mixdown tape with Prince's vocals.

well it would be a ruf mix with the guide vocal .. not a final mix .. and it is certainly quicker to do a mix right to cassette than to mix to 1/4 inch and then make a tape from the reel for your band people to check out .. prince loved put stuff on cassette all the time .. and he liked to work fast .. i don't think it is so far fetched ... and why would the estate bother mixing the cassette vocals with the studio masters if anything else of higher quality actually exists?

perhaps the nc2u that appears on 'originals' will prove the existance of a master with prince vocals .. but if it is the same as the single .. after 3 years .. then clearly there is no 1/4 master mix

TrevorAyer said:

We all thought we were getting familiar versions of dance electric and electric intercourse and look how that turned out .. it is very possible that no nc2u mix with prince exists in the vault .. I don’t believe they waste 1/4 inch tape for ruf mixes if they don’t have to .. if this was intended for the family to sing it seems likely prince made a ruf mix on cassette only to give to st paul .. especially if the intention was to use prince same instrumental tracks ... good chance a lot of this new release comes from cassettes... unless they truly have made progress on sorting the vault .. so far we have no evidence that they have much from the actual master tapes yet

Was "The Dance Electric" all that different than what we got? I know "Possessed" was. And "Electric Intercourse" was a huge suprise for many. I do not think either Per Nilson nor Duane Tudahl were aware of it!

I did notice that the NC2U time liawd here was 2 seconds shorter than the released one. That could be nothing or it may be a different mix--without Paul and Sussana...maybe even no Eric. With the report of the Japanese version having a different version who knows.

"Manic Monday" is the same length as the leaked Apollonia and Prince version.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

And "Electric Intercourse" was a huge suprise for many. I do not think either Per Nilson nor Duane Tudahl were aware of it!

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Did we have evidence of it existing? Nope. Did we suspect it existed? Yep.

databank said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

TrevorAyer said:

We all thought we were getting familiar versions of dance electric and electric intercourse and look how that turned out .. it is very possible that no nc2u mix with prince exists in the vault .. I don’t believe they waste 1/4 inch tape for ruf mixes if they don’t have to .. if this was intended for the family to sing it seems likely prince made a ruf mix on cassette only to give to st paul .. especially if the intention was to use prince same instrumental tracks ... good chance a lot of this new release comes from cassettes... unless they truly have made progress on sorting the vault .. so far we have no evidence that they have much from the actual master tapes yet

Was "The Dance Electric" all that different than what we got? I know "Possessed" was. And "Electric Intercourse" was a huge suprise for many. I do not think either Per Nilson nor Duane Tudahl were aware of it!

I did notice that the NC2U time liawd here was 2 seconds shorter than the released one. That could be nothing or it may be a different mix--without Paul and Sussana...maybe even no Eric. With the report of the Japanese version having a different version who knows.

"Manic Monday" is the same length as the leaked Apollonia and Prince version.

Dance Electric was missing the guitar solo, nice to have but not the essential version. Posessed was a weaker take, but hopefully if there is a 1999 Deluxe, it will be there. Electric would have been better if it was part of a box set with a Blu Ray (which Blu Ray does not exist according to the DVD happy estate) of the 8-3-83 show, and 2 CD including the rehearsal, but probably a pipe dream, though a standard dvd is a possibility for that show, and no matter what they have for this show, the picture ain't gonna be great, but the reason for the Blu Ray, is the audio would likely sound much better, but God forbid anyone in the estate or Warners has any understanding of this.

McD said:

databank said:

We have P's original version in bootleg form, it indeed lacks certain extra arrangements but works nonetheless. There's always the possibility that yet another mix exists that will be here but my money is on it being the same version.

The existing version with Prince vocals is likely his last musical contribution to the track and, as such, the purest ‘Prince’ version we’ll get. So bring it on, in perfect quality. Probably my favourite Prince track of all time. But as much as I love this particular version, the song was beautiful in every arrangement. For some commentary on what happened between this recording and Martika adding her vocals, see this interview with C.J. Vanston. As the Prince bit is buried deep, I’ve quoted it in full below. https://www.keyboardmag.c...r-heard-of Talk about some of the bigger productions from that time. Well, one of the early ones was for an artist named Martika, who was being produced by Prince. They had a song they just couldn’t finish (“Love, Thy Will Be Done”). They gave it to 13 guys. And I took it, and created this mini-symphony out of it. And I got the gig out of the 13 guys, it got back to Prince, and he hired me to play on some more stuff from there. That was a huge one-up. Without ever meeting him. But we worked together. I ended up playing B-3 on a bunch his stuff, and he wrote me back, “Brother, that’s the best B-3 I’ve heard since Sly and the Family Stone.”

Cool, thx

stillwaiting said:

(which Blu Ray does not exist according to the DVD happy estate) of the 8-3-83 show, and 2 CD including the rehearsal, but probably a pipe dream, though a standard dvd is a possibility for that show, and no matter what they have for this show, the picture ain't gonna be great, but the reason for the Blu Ray, is the audio would likely sound much better, but God forbid anyone in the estate or Warners has any understanding of this.

You're mistaken. The DVD included with Purple Rain Deluxe had lossless audio so there would be no benefit to releasing it on Blu-Ray.

[Edited 5/7/19 19:42pm]

Strive said:

stillwaiting said:

(which Blu Ray does not exist according to the DVD happy estate) of the 8-3-83 show, and 2 CD including the rehearsal, but probably a pipe dream, though a standard dvd is a possibility for that show, and no matter what they have for this show, the picture ain't gonna be great, but the reason for the Blu Ray, is the audio would likely sound much better, but God forbid anyone in the estate or Warners has any understanding of this.

You're mistaken. The DVD included with Purple Rain Deluxe had lossless audio so there would be no benefit to releasing it on Blu-Ray.

[Edited 5/7/19 19:42pm]

Blu-ray can hold a 96kbps 24-bit audio track. It just depends on if there's a high quality source recording.

Strive said:

stillwaiting said:

(which Blu Ray does not exist according to the DVD happy estate) of the 8-3-83 show, and 2 CD including the rehearsal, but probably a pipe dream, though a standard dvd is a possibility for that show, and no matter what they have for this show, the picture ain't gonna be great, but the reason for the Blu Ray, is the audio would likely sound much better, but God forbid anyone in the estate or Warners has any understanding of this.

You're mistaken. The DVD included with Purple Rain Deluxe had lossless audio so there would be no benefit to releasing it on Blu-Ray.

[Edited 5/7/19 19:42pm]

It sounds good to me, but not lossless. Granted, the source material is 34 years old, even if there were no improvement in audio, the discs seem to last longer and scratch less. The Rolling Stones vault series are mainly shows before 1990, and I upgraded a few to Blu Ray, and they sound better to me. I only buy Blu Ray now, so no way to compare recent releases, other than Michael Jackson's This Is It which clearly sounds and looks better on Blu Ray.

stillwaiting said:

Strive said:

You're mistaken. The DVD included with Purple Rain Deluxe had lossless audio so there would be no benefit to releasing it on Blu-Ray.

[Edited 5/7/19 19:42pm]

It sounds good to me, but not lossless. Granted, the source material is 34 years old, even if there were no improvement in audio, the discs seem to last longer and scratch less. The Rolling Stones vault series are mainly shows before 1990, and I upgraded a few to Blu Ray, and they sound better to me. I only buy Blu Ray now, so no way to compare recent releases, other than Michael Jackson's This Is It which clearly sounds and looks better on Blu Ray.

i think we all should be more concerned with them actually releasing things rather than if they r blu-ray...one fight at a time

BoraBora said:

suprized it hasnt leaked yet

why wasnt this announced when NCTU was released???

some days this place just makes me want to cry

jfenster said:

why wasnt this announced when NCTU was released???

because they are maiking this up as they go along.................................

Getting excited! Hoping this is leaked or that I can at least hear it (without paying for Tidal: I do not listen to streaming) before the 21st. I also may end up getting 2 copies. Amazon said it will not ship until the book comes out. So I may have to go to wal mart to get it on the 21st. And is Amazon going to have MP3 ripps?

IstenSzek said:

some days this place just makes me want to cry

purplepolitician said:

IstenSzek said:

some days this place just makes me want to cry

well, you are one of the cheerful notes for me so thank you for that

IstenSzek said:

some days this place just makes me want to cry

It is passion! I know when I saw the list I was like "what about (10 other songs)..." but I am so excited! I think I have not been this excited for a new album since

OnlyNDaUsa said:

IstenSzek said:

some days this place just makes me want to cry

It is passion! I know when I saw the list I was like "what about (10 other songs)..." but I am so excited! I think I have not been this excited for a new album since

oh i wasn't talking about this release, i was talking about some of the posters on the org

IstenSzek said:

purplepolitician said:

well, you are one of the cheerful notes for me so thank you for that

I try, I try

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Getting excited! Hoping this is leaked or that I can at least hear it (without paying for Tidal: I do not listen to streaming) before the 21st. I also may end up getting 2 copies. Amazon said it will not ship until the book comes out. So I may have to go to wal mart to get it on the 21st. And is Amazon going to have MP3 ripps?

I don't understand this. Won't listen to streaming but mp3 is ok? Just sign up for Tidal and get the free month to listen to it. If you cancel immediately after signing up you still get your month and don't have to worry about remembering to cancel. You can also download it to your device, so you don't have to be online to listen. What's the objection? There's no valid reason not to listen on Tidal as far as I can make out.

15 Nothing Compares To You
(The Family / 1985/1984
16 * Nothing Compares To You (The Love of Love) (Cinematic Version)
* Japanese edition Bonus Track

just saw this on the japanese edition..i wonder if its worth getting?

TheEnglishGent said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Getting excited! Hoping this is leaked or that I can at least hear it (without paying for Tidal: I do not listen to streaming) before the 21st. I also may end up getting 2 copies. Amazon said it will not ship until the book comes out. So I may have to go to wal mart to get it on the 21st. And is Amazon going to have MP3 ripps?

I don't understand this. Won't listen to streaming but mp3 is ok? Just sign up for Tidal and get the free month to listen to it. If you cancel immediately after signing up you still get your month and don't have to worry about remembering to cancel. You can also download it to your device, so you don't have to be online to listen. What's the objection? There's no valid reason not to listen on Tidal as far as I can make out.

Cool! Thanks!

I can play an MP3 off a CDR in my car... I can not stream to my car's stereo. Amazon gives you free MP3s when you buy some CDs...

I was not sure if I the Free month would work for an exclusive album but if I can I will get it that way for sure.