thedance said:

Pisse irriterende!!! (in danish)


In english:


I got the "3121" 2LP vinyl today, with the very wrong Musicolog-Hype sticker (as well)...



Damn I am so irritated, what a DUMB mistake.... who is resposible.. who is to blame????


damn.......

Just think!! It might be worth mega bux down the line if you sell.

luv4u said:

thedance said:

Pisse irriterende!!! (in danish)


In english:


I got the "3121" 2LP vinyl today, with the very wrong Musicolog-Hype sticker (as well)...



Damn I am so irritated, what a DUMB mistake.... who is resposible.. who is to blame????


damn.......

Just think!! It might be worth mega bux down the line if you sell.

Almost all the pressings have that sticker, must have been a production mistake...

feeluupp said:

luv4u said:

Just think!! It might be worth mega bux down the line if you sell.

Almost all the pressings have that sticker, must have been a production mistake...

I wonder how many pressings.

feeluupp said:

luv4u said:

Just think!! It might be worth mega bux down the line if you sell.

Almost all the pressings have that sticker, must have been a production mistake...

My copy has the correct sticker.

peedub said:

I got 'planet earth' and '3121'. Everything's got the right stickers. They sound like crap. NO bottom. The grooves are so shallow it hardly looks like a record. Save your money.

So, they probably just ported over the CD masters?

Poplife88 said:

peedub said:

i dont have any issues with the sound quality of these. They sound good to me also. The price is a piss take though!

djThunderfunk said:

My local wrecka stow listed them in their weekly email which states they are "remastered"... I don't know if I believe that though as it's the first I heard of it. Anyone know for sure?

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Romeoblu said:

TwiliteKid said:

Kares said:

djThunderfunk said:

My local wrecka stow listed them in their weekly email which states they are "remastered"... I don't know if I believe that though as it's the first I heard of it. Anyone know for sure?

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You guys really need to stop getting excited every time you see the word 'remastered'. There's just far too many connotations of the term and a lot of them are based on misinformation or misconceptions.

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As I mentioned before in a few lengthy posts about mastering, it is a very broad term, potentially (but not necessarily!) covering several different processes – and there's a difference between what engineers and the general public mean on it.

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I don't want to write a book here again so just very briefly: technically, 'mastering' simply means creating a master version of a recording, and contrary to popular opinion, originally it is NOT a creative process, it is not supposed to make it sound better. What the general public (incl. musicians) mean on 'mastering' though is some kind of a wizardry that makes it sound better, especially when they see the term 'REmastering’. It is true that this kind of ‘wizardry’ CAN be part of the mastering process too, but usually it isn’t, and ‘re-mastering’ simply means creating a new version of the master.

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Often a new master is simply a technical requirement, for example when they are preparing a vinyl-release. You cannot just use a CD master to be duplicated on vinyl – you have to create a vinyl production-master with a different EQ-curve and other differences. Anyway, technically speaking, creating a vinyl-master is ‘remastering’, even if it does not meet the general public's expectations of an “improved sonic quality”.

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I didn't get "excited", I'm asking for information. I understand the terminology, thank you very much.

There are plenty of examples of record companies porting a digital master for a vinyl release, rather than properly mastering it for vinyl. So far, it sounds like this is the case with these releases.

Furthermore, the email I got from my wrecka stow says the CDs are remastered too. I don't believe it and am merely asking for clarification.

Romeoblu said:

I've only listened to Musicology on vinyl so far.... but the difference is astonishing... the vinyl is SO MUCH better than the original CD issue (haven't heard the CD reissue)... first and foremost because the music ISN'T DISTORTED TO HELL, as it is on the original CD.

This was always my biggest problem with that CD, it was brickwalled - like so much of Prince's later music.

Listening to Life 'O' The Party, and while it'll never be a great song, it's actually listenable now, it's actually fun. There's dimension to it, there's layers, that on the CD were just a distorted mess.

This vinyl reissue of Musicology just became the definitive edition of the album, for me. I've already done a needledrop to play in the car, and that sounds great too.

I've only sampled the other two... the pressings are really nice, clean, warm... there's plenty of bottom end on all three of mine, don't know what people are hearing saying there's no bottom, unless they have faulty product.

But certainly, as a whole, the Musicology vinyl edition is warm, rich, reveals depth within the album - it's beautifully produced all round. Got to say hats off to Sony for this... even if it was insanely overpriced, if the other album reissues in the future are as good as this, we're all in for a treat.

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As someone who already has these three on original CD, is there any reason to buy them again? I guess I don't understand the significance. This goes for all the future CD re-releases coming.

peedub said:

dadeepop said:

Yo, did I stutt-stutter, mother***** - guess it needs saying louder...

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BASS ON THE VINYL VERSIONS OF THESE NEW RECORDS!

Anybody hear that?

Romeoblu said:

peedub said:

Romeoblu said:

What turntable are you playing it on? Listen to the outro on Beautiful Loved and Blessed. That is fat as Daniel Lambert.

It's a technics slb-30. Playing the record and CD concurrently, I feel the bass from the CD through the floor to just above the knee. Switch to the record and my shit don't even register movement. Black sweat is pathetic. For real. That shit should rattle my ribs, or it ain't fucking working...and it ain't.

You do know that records are always going to be quieter than CDs, right?

They won't ever be the same volume.

But I'm listening to the vinyl of Black Sweat right now and there's plenty of bottom in it... so maybe you have a duff copy or something, but it's just not true to say that there's no bottom as if there's a problem with the vinyl issue.

Rimshottbob said:

peedub said:

dadeepop said:

As someone who already has these three on original CD, is there any reason to buy them again? I guess I don't understand the significance. This goes for all the future CD re-releases coming.

If you're allergic to bass...

Noted.

It sounds like there may be some dodgy copies out there then. Listening to Planet Earth now on headphones, playing an on Audio Technica AT-LP120 and it's a really well rounded sound.

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Thanks for the video! As You said: It is what it is - an unboxing video. I got to see what is inside the plastic shrink. And that is what i was interested in. So I'm very glad You showed exactly that!

embmmusic said:

I did an unboxing video of all three here as well as my opinions about the albums: https://www.youtube.com/w...qN9bgH944A

kindofblue said:

Thanks for the video! As You said: It is what it is - an unboxing video. I got to see what is inside the plastic shrink. And that is what i was interested in. So I'm very glad You showed exactly that!

embmmusic said:

I did an unboxing video of all three here as well as my opinions about the albums: https://www.youtube.com/w...qN9bgH944A

Thanks, it means a lot

I have all three and I have to say they sound much better than the CD versions (I know it's subjective.) For those who are asking if these are just the "CD masters" on vinyl..... that is technically not even possible. Even if they used the production masters that were used for the CD version they would have to tweak the eq before making stampers for the vinyl version (pre/de emphasis for RIAA curve) so that in itself would change the sound.

And as far as the bass is concerned: I'm not sure what equipment you have, but there were parts in Musicology (the song) that literally knocked things off of a table in my listening room.

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