paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well what song(s) do you hear finger cymbals on? on For You?

Did he 'continue' to use finger cymbals from 1979-1983/84?

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The thing is David brought in very exotic Middle Eastern instruments and sounds. And a way of playing them. I played finger cymbals in elementary school. I did not play Middle Eastern instruments and manipulate the sound.

Prince played the instrument David gave him on the Parade 1st Avenue open rehearsal show. I don't think he ever played the finger cymbals live again.

Those are all good points.

Do we know what song (can we hear it) did he use finger cymbals on?

Can you post the credit piece where finger cymbals are mentioned? I never read that, I did read/see the use of orchestra bells though.

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That may be true. They both equally have a gift of gab.

Nothing wrong with that. Keeps things interesting, and I never tire of hearing about their times with Prince.

SNIP -flamebait -Of4$

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

Nothing wrong with that. Keeps things interesting, and I never tire of hearing about their times with Prince.

SNIP -flamebait -Of4$

They are not conveniently inserting themselves. They were there and a part of it. They are not inserting themselves in Prince history where they did not work with him. And they continued to be friends with Prince through his whole life.

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Let's please not continue this strain of contention, why can't we enjoy the story and the background of Prince recording Make Your Momma Happy...

OldFriends4Sale said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

SNIP -Of4$

They are not conveniently inserting themselves. They were there and a part of it. They are not inserting themselves in Prince history where they did not work with him. And they continued to be friends with Prince through his whole life.

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Let's please not continue this strain of contention, why can't we enjoy the story and the background of Prince recording Make Your Momma Happy...

EACTLY. They were and are being asked by journalists to share their stories/memories of their time with Prince, as well as, offering up their own speical memories.

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ChocolateBox3121 - you act like Susannah is pulling this story out of the air. She's officially credited for singing backround on this track, and Prince tells a story about it in the Crystal Ball liner notes.

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

They are not conveniently inserting themselves. They were there and a part of it. They are not inserting themselves in Prince history where they did not work with him. And they continued to be friends with Prince through his whole life.

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Let's please not continue this strain of contention, why can't we enjoy the story and the background of Prince recording Make Your Momma Happy...

EACTLY. They were and are being asked by journalists to share their stories/memories of their time with Prince, as well as, offering up their own speical memories.

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ChocolateBox3121 - you act like Susannah is pulling this story out of the air. She's officially credited for singing backround on this track, and Prince tells a story about it in the Crystal Ball liner notes.

I NEVER said that. As I said in the above post. I love her storytelling........

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I NEVER said that. As I said in the above post. I love her storytelling........

So you did not post the following which I just copied from post #91: * ChocolateBox3121 said: Well they do LOVE conveniently, inserting, themselves in Prince's(r.i.p.) musical history. * Oh, okay. Must have been a different "ChocolateBox3121" who posted that comment

SNIP -Of4$

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: So you did not post the following which I just copied from post #91: * ChocolateBox3121 said: Well they do LOVE conveniently, inserting, themselves in Prince's(r.i.p.) musical history. * Oh, okay. Must have been a different "ChocolateBox3121" who posted that comment

I NEVER said Susannah is lying about the MYMH story. Don't put words in my mouth. In fact I complimented her. U seem SUPER sensitive about ANYTHING concerning Wendy & Lisa. They'll be ok. Prince(r.i.p.) knows they care.

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That may be true. They both equally have a gift of gab.

Nothing wrong with that. Keeps things interesting, and I never tire of hearing about their times with Prince.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Well they do LOVE conveniently, inserting, themselves in Prince's(r.i.p.) musical history.

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Not sure how one would take your above response, other than it's an implication that Susannah was fabricating a story in order to place her in that moment with Prince. So yes, in fact you were, in a very backhanded way, iimplying that she was lying. Your eariler comment about loving Susannah's stories seemed to me to be nothing other than a way for you to insert yet another story of putting yourself at the scene of yet another celebrity function. Your next few snarky comments pretty much cancelled out any semblance of positivity in your first post. Not too difficult to figure that out

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Just to clarify....here are Prince's words about the recording of this song on the CB liner notes:

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Make Your Mama Happy - this was recorded after
listening 2 Fresh by Sly and 2 prove a point 2
Susannah that Mpls was in the house. She sings
background on this. Eric is on sax. Terry Lewis gets
ugly while listening 2 this!

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Well they do LOVE conveniently, inserting, themselves in Prince's(r.i.p.) musical history.

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Not sure how one would take your above response, other than it's an implication that Susannah was fabricating a story in order to place her in that moment with Prince. So yes, in fact you were, in a very backhanded way, iimplying that she was lying. Your eariler comment about loving Susannah's stories seemed to me to be nothing other than a way for you to insert yet another story of putting yourself at the scene of yet another celebrity function. Your next few snarky comments pretty much cancelled out any semblance of positivity in your first post. Not too difficult to figure that out

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Just to clarify....here are Prince's words about the recording of this song on the CB liner notes:

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Make Your Mama Happy - this was recorded after
listening 2 Fresh by Sly and 2 prove a point 2
Susannah that Mpls was in the house. She sings
background on this. Eric is on sax. Terry Lewis gets
ugly while listening 2 this!

SNIP -OF4$

Countless braggadocio name-dropping. What is your point besides me me me? Do you need that much attention?

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

I've read the liner notes of Prince's(r.i.p.) 3 cd set Crystal Ball YEARS AGO when it was first released. So it's no need to remind me of what he said in them. It's really a waste of time.

Again I have NOTHING against Susannah. I thoroughly enjoyed her storytelling at Toure's(whose currently embroiled in sexual harassment backlash) very informative panel discussion which included LA Read & Alan Leads.

That's when I was one of the FIRST to hear most of the SAME stories she's telling now AGAIN & AGAIN after Prince's(r.i.p.) transitioning. It really has NOTHING to do with the MANY countless, celebrity functions I attended in my lifetime. Since they're really NOT even considered celebrities.

Actually, I think you're getting your Toure panels confused. Toure held a panel called "Who is Prince Really?" August, 2014. Susannah and LA Reid were his guests that day....

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Toure also held another panel to promote his book and to discuss what Prince is really like in person. This also took place in 2013, and his guests were Questlove, Alan Leeds and Danyel Smith.....

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But, of course I'm sure your reply will state that you attended both panels, met all of the guests, and then attended an after party with the group

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Regarding the CB liner notes - you post as if you were the only one around back when CB was released. I can assure you that I was most certainly around at that time, as I was from the time Prince first appeared on the scene. I posted the liner notes, because based on your comment about Susannah "inserting" herself into Prince's musical history, it seemed clear to me that you had forgotten that Prince himself stated she was present during the recording of the song, so I figured I'd refresh your memory on that piece.

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As for Susannah's stories and her having told them more than once - well yeah, duh - she was present and with him during the most prolific and fruitful time of his career, so it is understandable that she would be asked some of the same questions about her time with Prince. She went almost 30 yrs with most fans not knowing that Starfish & Coffee was based on her childhood. So yeah, that information is very interesting to many Prince fans.

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poppys said:

Countless braggadocio name-dropping. What is your point besides me me me? Do you need that much attention?

violetcrush said:

paulludvig said:

violetcrush said:

Actually, I think you're getting your Toure panels confused. Toure held a panel called "Who is Prince Really?" August, 2014. Susannah and LA Reid were his guests that day....

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Toure also held another panel to promote his book and to discuss what Prince is really like in person. This also took place in 2013, and his guests were Questlove, Alan Leeds and Danyel Smith.....

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But, of course I'm sure your reply will state that you attended both panels, met all of the guests, and then attended an after party with the group

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Regarding the CB liner notes - you post as if you were the only one around back when CB was released. I can assure you that I was most certainly around at that time, as I was from the time Prince first appeared on the scene. I posted the liner notes, because based on your comment about Susannah "inserting" herself into Prince's musical history, it seemed clear to me that you had forgotten that Prince himself stated she was present during the recording of the song, so I figured I'd refresh your memory on that piece.

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As for Susannah's stories and her having told them more than once - well yeah, duh - she was present and with him during the most prolific and fruitful time of his career, so it is understandable that she would be asked some of the same questions about her time with Prince. She went almost 30 yrs with most fans not knowing that Starfish & Coffee was based on her childhood. So yeah, that information is very interesting to many Prince fans.

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[Edited 1/11/19 17:11pm]

SNIP -thread flaming -Of4$

You've got to be kidding me, right??? We must be listening to different stories then. Obviously, her words, thoughts and actions are iincluded in those stories, because it is her experience WITH him. She was interacting with him at that time. I love that she 's including extra details like the fact that she made him Constant Comment tea with honey, or that he constantly ate vanilla cake with chocolate frosting. These are the everyday "human" details that he would not share, because he was maintiaing the "mystique" and "otherworldly" persona.

paulludvig said:

violetcrush said:

Actually, I think you're getting your Toure panels confused. Toure held a panel called "Who is Prince Really?" August, 2014. Susannah and LA Reid were his guests that day....

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Toure also held another panel to promote his book and to discuss what Prince is really like in person. This also took place in 2013, and his guests were Questlove, Alan Leeds and Danyel Smith.....

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But, of course I'm sure your reply will state that you attended both panels, met all of the guests, and then attended an after party with the group

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Regarding the CB liner notes - you post as if you were the only one around back when CB was released. I can assure you that I was most certainly around at that time, as I was from the time Prince first appeared on the scene. I posted the liner notes, because based on your comment about Susannah "inserting" herself into Prince's musical history, it seemed clear to me that you had forgotten that Prince himself stated she was present during the recording of the song, so I figured I'd refresh your memory on that piece.

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As for Susannah's stories and her having told them more than once - well yeah, duh - she was present and with him during the most prolific and fruitful time of his career, so it is understandable that she would be asked some of the same questions about her time with Prince. She went almost 30 yrs with most fans not knowing that Starfish & Coffee was based on her childhood. So yeah, that information is very interesting to many Prince fans.

[Edited 1/11/19 17:10pm]

[Edited 1/11/19 17:11pm]

SNIP -flamebait -Of4$

SNIP

ChocolateBox3121 said:

^^^ No really, it's the obsession of constantly trying to eliminate or severely diminish their relationship and/or work with Prince by a handful of posters that is truly the most disturbing.

paulludvig said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

You're wasting your time his or her OBSESSION with The Melvoins is way over limit of NO RETURN.

Huh? I'm basically agreeing with you.

I know. But that person is not going to listen to U. AT ALL.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

paulludvig said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: Huh? I'm basically agreeing with you.

I know. But that person is not going to listen to U. AT ALL.

^^^ No really, it's the obsession of constantly trying to eliminate or severely diminish their relationship and/or work with Prince by a handful of posters that is truly the most disturbing.

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I tell ya what ChocolateBox3121 - when palludvig can provide proof that he knew Prince personally during that time, and spent as much time with him as Wendy, Lisa and Susannah - then I'll listen to what he has to say. Until then, comments from the "peanut gallery" negating their stories and memories with him are really just pointless and contain ZERO credibility.

violetcrush said:

paulludvig said:

violetcrush said:

^^^ No really, it's the obsession of constantly trying to eliminate or severely diminish their relationship and/or work with Prince by a handful of posters that is truly the most disturbing.

SNIP -thread flaming -Of44

.....and here we go 'round and 'round again. GIVE IT UP palludvig!!

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FACT: David Coleman and Jonathan Melvoin recorded THEIR song Around The World In A Day using studio time that Prince had given them.

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Princevault.com:

The track was first written and recorded by David Coleman (Lisa Coleman's brother) in early June 1984, when given two days of studio time at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California as a birthday gift from Prince. When Prince heard the resulting track, he loved it and wanted to include it on his next album. He re-recorded the track and made some musical and lyrical changes.

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FACT: The song heavily featured FINGER CYMBALS, the Oud, the Darbuka, and the Cello

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Princevault.com:

Prince - all vocal and instruments, except where noted
David Coleman - cello, oud, fingercymbals, darbuka and background vocals
Jonathan Melvoin - tamborine and background vocals
Wendy Melvoin - background vocals
Lisa Coleman - background vocals
Susannah Melvoin - background vocals

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FACT: Prince flew David to MN in order to record his parts on Cello and the other instruments.

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FACT: This is the only Prince-related track to give writing credit to David Coleman.

AGAIN - point me to where ANYONE SAID that ANYONE introduced Prince to the Finger Cymbals, or that he was seeing them for the first time in his life.

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GIVE IT UP PALLUDVIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^ paulludvig has da Melvoinophobia. The cure for that is Constant Comment tea with honey.

poppys said:

^^ paulludvig has da Melvoinophobia. The cure for that is Constant Comment tea with honey.

I love this poppys

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violetcrush said:

poppys said:

^^ paulludvig has da Melvoinophobia. The cure for that is Constant Comment tea with honey.

I love this poppys

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Ooh, and maybe some vanilla cake with chocolate icing YUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Princey snack

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poppys said:

Princey snack

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Maybe if we ask nicely, Susannah would whip up some for palludvig

On Prince's first album For You, finger cymbals are list on the song Crazy You. At 1:20min there is 1 ting on the finger cymbals. And that's it.

I love that song by the way.

violetcrush said:

paulludvig said:

violetcrush said: SNIP -thread flaming -Of44

.....and here we go 'round and 'round again. GIVE IT UP palludvig!!

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FACT: David Coleman and Jonathan Melvoin recorded THEIR song Around The World In A Day using studio time that Prince had given them.

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Princevault.com:

The track was first written and recorded by David Coleman (Lisa Coleman's brother) in early June 1984, when given two days of studio time at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California as a birthday gift from Prince. When Prince heard the resulting track, he loved it and wanted to include it on his next album. He re-recorded the track and made some musical and lyrical changes.

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FACT: The song heavily featured FINGER CYMBALS, the Oud, the Darbuka, and the Cello

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Princevault.com:

Recording Personnel

Prince - all vocal and instruments, except where noted
David Coleman - cello, oud, fingercymbals, darbuka and background vocals
Jonathan Melvoin - tamborine and background vocals
Wendy Melvoin - background vocals
Lisa Coleman - background vocals
Susannah Melvoin - background vocals

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FACT: Prince flew David to MN in order to record his parts on Cello and the other instruments.

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FACT: This is the only Prince-related track to give writing credit to David Coleman.

AGAIN - point me to where ANYONE SAID that ANYONE introduced Prince to the Finger Cymbals, or that he was seeing them for the first time in his life.

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GIVE IT UP PALLUDVIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Make Yo Mamma Happy" is one of my favorite Prince songs. I play it every single day to get pumped up for whatever the day has in store for me. Learning how it was created in her post was fascinating and makes the song even more meaningful.