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Reply #90 posted 12/14/18 1:31pm

Rimshottbob

DarkKnight1 said:

Rimshottbob said:

Yes, there is no filler on it.... errrrr,

excepting, of course,

Love

Lolita

Beautiful, Loved And Blessed

The Word

possibly also Fury in this anaemic rendering...

but that's only 1/3 of the album. lol

Just delete your account and start over. Maybe even shut down your Internet provider.

lol lol lol

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Reply #91 posted 12/14/18 3:14pm

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3121 IS thé last great Prince album. It's maybe the only album since Lovesexy where every track is strong, there is not one filler in it. . I think it s the last time Prince achieved this degree of excellence in his music, as if he were 25 years old, and not 48. . It s fun, smart, groovy, musically accessible and eclectic. . Musicology is good too, Planet Earth is more lazy but is easily listenable too. Far better than most of its 90'release. [Edited 12/13/18 14:03pm]

If 3121 would have went like Prince planned it. It would have been & even MORE MEGA HIT! Too bad Universal wouldn't approve "Fury" being used as the video from SNL. Then Oprah turning down what would have been a second appearance to promote the project & new 3121 perfume on her then high rated show The Oprah Winfrey Show. Then of course being served papers from Mani right in the middle of it all. It was ALL bittersweet for Prince

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985

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Reply #92 posted 12/14/18 3:15pm

SoulAlive

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Interesting Sony Legacy released some images and the vinyls appear will be purple...



















Wow! These look wonderful thumbs up!
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Reply #93 posted 12/15/18 12:49am

RODSERLING

ChocolateBox3121 said:



RODSERLING said:


3121 IS thé last great Prince album. It's maybe the only album since Lovesexy where every track is strong, there is not one filler in it. . I think it s the last time Prince achieved this degree of excellence in his music, as if he were 25 years old, and not 48. . It s fun, smart, groovy, musically accessible and eclectic. . Musicology is good too, Planet Earth is more lazy but is easily listenable too. Far better than most of its 90'release. [Edited 12/13/18 14:03pm]

If 3121 would have went like Prince planned it. It would have been & even MORE MEGA HIT! Too bad Universal wouldn't approve "Fury" being used as the video from SNL. Then Oprah turning down what would have been a second appearance to promote the project & new 3121 perfume on her then high rated show The Oprah Winfrey Show. Then of course being served papers from Mani right in the middle of it all. It was ALL bittersweet for Prince



The TV adds that were supposed to be broadcast during the finale of Pop Idol where Prince performed, was also cancelled.
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And we could mention the Superbowl where, instead of performing " we will rock you", "the best of you " and "proud Mary", Prince /could should have performed songs from 3121.
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A 3121 intro chanting the name of the album, following a medley of Fury / the word.
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Reply #94 posted 12/15/18 7:01am

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RODSERLING said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:



RODSERLING said:


3121 IS thé last great Prince album. It's maybe the only album since Lovesexy where every track is strong, there is not one filler in it. . I think it s the last time Prince achieved this degree of excellence in his music, as if he were 25 years old, and not 48. . It s fun, smart, groovy, musically accessible and eclectic. . Musicology is good too, Planet Earth is more lazy but is easily listenable too. Far better than most of its 90'release. [Edited 12/13/18 14:03pm]

If 3121 would have went like Prince planned it. It would have been & even MORE MEGA HIT! Too bad Universal wouldn't approve "Fury" being used as the video from SNL. Then Oprah turning down what would have been a second appearance to promote the project & new 3121 perfume on her then high rated show The Oprah Winfrey Show. Then of course being served papers from Mani right in the middle of it all. It was ALL bittersweet for Prince



The TV adds that were supposed to be broadcast during the finale of Pop Idol where Prince performed, was also cancelled.
.
And we could mention the Superbowl where, instead of performing " we will rock you", "the best of you " and "proud Mary", Prince /could should have performed songs from 3121.
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A 3121 intro chanting the name of the album, following a medley of Fury / the word.


That would've been awful and we would be here discussing how misunderstood he is instead of what an iconic performance that was. The super bowl was exactly what its should've been. Something for the masses that showcased his talent.
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Reply #95 posted 12/15/18 8:24am

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RODSERLING said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

If 3121 would have went like Prince planned it. It would have been & even MORE MEGA HIT! Too bad Universal wouldn't approve "Fury" being used as the video from SNL. Then Oprah turning down what would have been a second appearance to promote the project & new 3121 perfume on her then high rated show The Oprah Winfrey Show. Then of course being served papers from Mani right in the middle of it all. It was ALL bittersweet for Prince

The TV adds that were supposed to be broadcast during the finale of Pop Idol where Prince performed, was also cancelled. . And we could mention the Superbowl where, instead of performing " we will rock you", "the best of you " and "proud Mary", Prince /could should have performed songs from 3121. . A 3121 intro chanting the name of the album, following a medley of Fury / the word.

Absolutely awful idea, stratgically and artistically... There's a reason, there's an essence he chose the songs he did for the superbowl... Imagine starting off with a 3121 chant... Uh not!! The superbowl is the most watched sporting event in the world, only a few hundred thousand hardcore fans would even know what 3121 is.

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Reply #96 posted 12/15/18 8:26am

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One of the things that makes Prince great in an artistic sense is he doesn't go by the norm, every superbowl performance the artist promotes his or her own album or tour... Prince didn't, he chose not to, hell he even chose to perform other artists song when the world was watching him... He could've easily did a 3121 or Planet Earth promo, but he didn't, he's Prince!!

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Reply #97 posted 12/15/18 2:22pm

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i might have been tempted to rebuy the cd reissues if they'd been released in jewelcases
but from the estate site it looks like they will just be cardboard sleeves again, sadly.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #98 posted 12/16/18 7:37am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


If 3121 would have went like Prince planned it. It would have been & even MORE MEGA HIT! Too bad Universal wouldn't approve "Fury" being used as the video from SNL. Then Oprah turning down what would have been a second appearance to promote the project & new 3121 perfume on her then high rated show The Oprah Winfrey Show. Then of course being served papers from Mani right in the middle of it all. It was ALL bittersweet for Prince



The TV adds that were supposed to be broadcast during the finale of Pop Idol where Prince performed, was also cancelled. . And we could mention the Superbowl where, instead of performing " we will rock you", "the best of you " and "proud Mary", Prince /could should have performed songs from 3121. . A 3121 intro chanting the name of the album, following a medley of Fury / the word.


Absolutely awful idea, stratgically and artistically... There's a reason, there's an essence he chose the songs he did for the superbowl... Imagine starting off with a 3121 chant... Uh not!! The superbowl is the most watched sporting event in the world, only a few hundred thousand hardcore fans would even know what 3121 is.



That s what every other artists does : they promote songs from their current albums ! It could have helped the album 3121 if he did it. (But wasn t it already out of print ?lol). I like the performance as it is, but was puzzled and pissed of at the time watching him neglecting his album so much.
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Reply #99 posted 12/16/18 8:31am

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feeluupp said:

Absolutely awful idea, stratgically and artistically... There's a reason, there's an essence he chose the songs he did for the superbowl... Imagine starting off with a 3121 chant... Uh not!! The superbowl is the most watched sporting event in the world, only a few hundred thousand hardcore fans would even know what 3121 is.

That s what every other artists does : they promote songs from their current albums ! It could have helped the album 3121 if he did it. (But wasn t it already out of print ?lol). I like the performance as it is, but was puzzled and pissed of at the time watching him neglecting his album so much. .

Prince is not every other artist..

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Reply #100 posted 12/16/18 12:49pm

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


feeluupp said:



Absolutely awful idea, stratgically and artistically... There's a reason, there's an essence he chose the songs he did for the superbowl... Imagine starting off with a 3121 chant... Uh not!! The superbowl is the most watched sporting event in the world, only a few hundred thousand hardcore fans would even know what 3121 is.



That s what every other artists does : they promote songs from their current albums ! It could have helped the album 3121 if he did it. (But wasn t it already out of print ?lol). I like the performance as it is, but was puzzled and pissed of at the time watching him neglecting his album so much. .


Prince is not every other artist..



But 3121 Was a great album that deserved a Superbowl exposure
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Reply #101 posted 12/16/18 12:55pm

RODSERLING

The real event of these re releases is that Planet Earth will have a booklet in the CD version !
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Reply #102 posted 12/17/18 9:51pm

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Sony (Legacy) or Columbia (Sony owns them) were behind the release of Musicology and Planet Earth with distribution, how the hell 3121 (originally released by Universal) ended up on Sony Legacy's re-releases?

And girls, if you wanna to get that lovely tattoo of the sunrise rising out of your ass crack... Gorgeous when you're 20, but when you're 50, it's an octopus chasing a fucking starfish ~ Robin Williams
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Reply #103 posted 12/17/18 10:54pm

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The real question is : why every releases after 1993 were out of print after six months?
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Why the major companies couldn't reprint them ? Was there a clause in the contracts forbidding them to do so?
Was there even a contract, and if there wasn t how was it possible to stop the printing?
Why Prince wanted his albums to be out of print, even in the digital form?
Some albums such as Musicology would have been good catalogue sellers.
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Reply #104 posted 12/17/18 11:09pm

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The real question is : why every releases after 1993 were out of print after six months? . Why the major companies couldn't reprint them ? Was there a clause in the contracts forbidding them to do so? Was there even a contract, and if there wasn t how was it possible to stop the printing? Why Prince wanted his albums to be out of print, even in the digital form? Some albums such as Musicology would have been good catalogue sellers.

Musicology A LOT was given to concert attendees ALL over the world.....

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985

"Kirk has a VAULT right here that's NEVER going 2 b unlocked" Kirky J.
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Reply #105 posted 12/18/18 12:44am

JorisE73

ChocolateBox3121 said:

RODSERLING said:

The real question is : why every releases after 1993 were out of print after six months? . Why the major companies couldn't reprint them ? Was there a clause in the contracts forbidding them to do so? Was there even a contract, and if there wasn t how was it possible to stop the printing? Why Prince wanted his albums to be out of print, even in the digital form? Some albums such as Musicology would have been good catalogue sellers.

Musicology A LOT was given to concert attendees ALL over the world.....


Musiclolgy never reached Europe so we had to buy that album.

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Reply #106 posted 12/18/18 2:38am

RODSERLING

ChocolateBox3121 said:



RODSERLING said:


The real question is : why every releases after 1993 were out of print after six months? . Why the major companies couldn't reprint them ? Was there a clause in the contracts forbidding them to do so? Was there even a contract, and if there wasn t how was it possible to stop the printing? Why Prince wanted his albums to be out of print, even in the digital form? Some albums such as Musicology would have been good catalogue sellers.

Musicology A LOT was given to concert attendees ALL over the world.....



It wasn't t given at all, it was included in the ticket price.
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Reply #107 posted 12/18/18 3:07am

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RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

Absolutely awful idea, stratgically and artistically... There's a reason, there's an essence he chose the songs he did for the superbowl... Imagine starting off with a 3121 chant... Uh not!! The superbowl is the most watched sporting event in the world, only a few hundred thousand hardcore fans would even know what 3121 is.

That s what every other artists does : they promote songs from their current albums ! It could have helped the album 3121 if he did it. (But wasn t it already out of print ?lol). I like the performance as it is, but was puzzled and pissed of at the time watching him neglecting his album so much. .

Prince did exactly the right thing for the Superbowl performance. It it is why it is and always will be talked about as one of the great Superbowl performances.

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Reply #108 posted 12/18/18 4:00am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Musicology A LOT was given to concert attendees ALL over the world.....

It wasn't t given at all, it was included in the ticket price.

rolleyes

I know "it was included in the ticket price". My point is it was distributed very well. U insinuated like it wasn't an abundance of product.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985

"Kirk has a VAULT right here that's NEVER going 2 b unlocked" Kirky J.
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Reply #109 posted 12/18/18 4:08am

JorisE73

ChocolateBox3121 said:

RODSERLING said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: It wasn't t given at all, it was included in the ticket price.

rolleyes

I know "it was included in the ticket price". My point is it was distributed very well. U insinuated like it wasn't an abundance of product.


Sorry but it seems you're trying to twist your BS by twisting someone elses fact.

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Reply #110 posted 12/18/18 4:45am

RODSERLING

ChocolateBox3121 said:



RODSERLING said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


Musicology A LOT was given to concert attendees ALL over the world.....



It wasn't t given at all, it was included in the ticket price.

rolleyes



I know "it was included in the ticket price". My point is it was distributed very well. U insinuated like it wasn't an abundance of product.



I m sorry but in what world were you living the last 14 years lol?
In the real world, Musicology is out of print since six months after the original release in march 2004.
Just like every Prince album between 1994 and 2010, in case you didn't know, were out of print since the end of their promotion. Not only that, but until recently these albums never had even a digital release (!)
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In fact, that's why Sony is re releasing them lol, that s the very point of the existence of this topic.
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Reply #111 posted 12/18/18 4:51am

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RODSERLING said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

rolleyes

I know "it was included in the ticket price". My point is it was distributed very well. U insinuated like it wasn't an abundance of product.

I m sorry but in what world were you living the last 14 years lol? In the real world, Musicology is out of print since six months after the original release in march 2004. Just like every Prince album between 1994 and 2010, in case you didn't know, were out of print since the end of their promotion. . In fact, that's why Sony is re releasing them lol, that s the very point of the existence of this topic.

I'm fully aware of the out of print problem. I was just talking about Musicology individually was well distributed during it's promotion. U don't have to inform me about anything that has to do with Prince. I know EVERYTHING!

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985

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Reply #112 posted 12/18/18 4:57am

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MUSICOLOGY stands at selling 2.7 million copies... With the phsyical re-release and streaming this could hit the 3 million mark soon.

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Reply #113 posted 12/18/18 7:52am

RODSERLING

ChocolateBox3121 said:



RODSERLING said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


rolleyes



I know "it was included in the ticket price". My point is it was distributed very well. U insinuated like it wasn't an abundance of product.



I m sorry but in what world were you living the last 14 years lol? In the real world, Musicology is out of print since six months after the original release in march 2004. Just like every Prince album between 1994 and 2010, in case you didn't know, were out of print since the end of their promotion. . In fact, that's why Sony is re releasing them lol, that s the very point of the existence of this topic.

I'm fully aware of the out of print problem. I was just talking about Musicology individually was well distributed during it's promotion. U don't have to inform me about anything that has to do with Prince. I know EVERYTHING!



I never implied that Musicology were not well distributed during its promotion lol, you completely misread.
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If you know everything lol ( but I assume you were joking) you should know that the Musicology tour never toured outside North America
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Reply #114 posted 12/18/18 8:08am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:

MUSICOLOGY stands at selling 2.7 million copies... With the phsyical re-release and streaming this could hit the 3 million mark soon.



In fact Sony stated years ago that Musicology sold/shipped 3.6 millions copies worldwide.
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The numbers of 2.7 millions is not official at all,that s only Chartmaster's fantasist assumption.
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He himself made a rule in his methodology that if a record label state a number of copies sold publicly, well, that number is obligatory true and is a strict minimum. If not, the artist could claim extra money from his label !
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No way Sony inflated this number, especially since it was out of print at the time and had no other Prince album in his catalogue to sell.
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So Chartmaster is contradicting with himself.
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Moreover, in 2005 he claimed the album sold 4 millions worldwide. So his word is no gospel.
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For instance, Musicology is scanned in the USA at only 2.000.000 copies, whereas it sold in fact 938.000 copies in regular stores and 1.47 millions of tickets were sold for the tour.
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Soundscan counted only 1.066.000 tickets for the tour. They discounted in fact 400.000 copies, including more than 200.000 that were sold before the actual release of the album.
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Moreover, Music Club still existed at the time, even if it was small, but Eminem show still sold millions in MC in 2003!
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Do the maths : Even without MC, that's almost 2.5 millions copies sold in the USA only.
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No way it sold only 200.000 copies outside the USa...

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Reply #115 posted 12/18/18 2:34pm

RODSERLING

After some more research, it seems the numbers of Musicology in the USA are as follows :
- about 980.000 copies sold in retail stores
- 1.066.000 copies counted by soundscan for the Musicology tour, out of the 1.47 millions tickets sold
- 270.000 copies excluded, sold at shows during the month before the release of the album, and the week of the release at the exception of one show (only 13.000 copies out of the 191.000 first week sales !)
- About 150.000 copies sold at the shows excluded because sold through NPGMC + copies sold at various theaters broadcast the tour
- An unknown number sold at NPGMC
- An unknown number sold at Columbia house Music Club
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Reply #116 posted 12/18/18 3:02pm

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Also "Call My Name" from the multi platinum MEGA hit album "Musicology" won a Grammy Award for Best RnB Vocal Performance at the 47th Annual Grammy Awards in 2005.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985

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Reply #117 posted 12/18/18 3:15pm

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The real question is : why every releases after 1993 were out of print after six months? . Why the major companies couldn't reprint them ? Was there a clause in the contracts forbidding them to do so? Was there even a contract, and if there wasn t how was it possible to stop the printing? Why Prince wanted his albums to be out of print, even in the digital form? Some albums such as Musicology would have been good catalogue sellers.


No need for the hyperbole of "six months". They all went out of print too fast sure, but those that went to retail on major labels were available for a few years at least.


[Edited 12/18/18 15:16pm]

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #118 posted 12/18/18 3:18pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

rolleyes

I know "it was included in the ticket price". My point is it was distributed very well. U insinuated like it wasn't an abundance of product.

I m sorry but in what world were you living the last 14 years lol? In the real world, Musicology is out of print since six months after the original release in march 2004. Just like every Prince album between 1994 and 2010, in case you didn't know, were out of print since the end of their promotion. Not only that, but until recently these albums never had even a digital release (!) . In fact, that's why Sony is re releasing them lol, that s the very point of the existence of this topic. [Edited 12/18/18 4:48am] [Edited 12/18/18 4:49am]


Musicology was available at retail for several years.

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #119 posted 12/18/18 3:39pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I'm fully aware of the out of print problem. I was just talking about Musicology individually was well distributed during it's promotion. U don't have to inform me about anything that has to do with Prince. I know EVERYTHING!

I never implied that Musicology were not well distributed during its promotion lol, you completely misread. . If you know everything lol ( but I assume you were joking) you should know that the Musicology tour never toured outside North America

I'm surprised U even said it sold at all.

Btw I don't joke about Prince's legacy. He left me here to protect it.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances." prince AMA's 1985

"Kirk has a VAULT right here that's NEVER going 2 b unlocked" Kirky J.
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