violetcrush said:

I honestly think his main incentive/interest in going to the clubs was tied more to music - listening to the current trends or trying out his own new recordings, checking out the fashion trends, people watching, keeping up his rock star status by being seen at the clubs, and of course, looking for/picking up women. I think the drinking/drugs were the least interesting aspect to him.

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Oh....and he was nocturnal, so some of it was just boredom. One of his old managers stated in Matt Thorne's Biography that when they were touring in Europe Prince would call him after midnight to go with him to the clubs. He said it was just the worst, because Prince would just sit there at his VIP table and watch people. He said on one occasion their waitress was annoyed - I guess because they were not ordering drinks - and she asked why he bothered to come to the club if he was just going to sit there and not drink or mingle. The manager told her he likes to "people watch". She replied, "well why doesn't he just go to the park then?"

That was the impression I got at the parties that I went to too. I hardly ever saw him dance or walk around.

Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:

Right. I think he tried the X that night, because Cat had described the type of high it gives, and he wanted to "escape" whatever dark/negative place he was in at that time.

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During his last interview with Arsenio Hall - 2014 or 15 I think - Arsenio started to talk about those "crazy and wild parties" in the mid 80's - and a memory of this crazy and bizarre house where they ended up where Prince didn't want to touch anything....it seemed like he was desribing some kinky sex/drug party. Prince jokingly got up from his seat and started to walk out, which was Arsenio's "cue" to change the subject - which he did. So, no doubt there were very wild parties with women, drugs, etc in the 80's, especially '84-'87, when Prince was "the shit", as Charlie Murphy stated

Prince looked kinda freaked out at that moment when Arsineo started with all that.

He set a VERY firm boundary as to what how far Arsenio could go with him by making a false move to abandon the set.

Not animal. Man.

Prince LOVED clubs. I would see him all the time at his Glam Slam club every week.

Just watch him when Arsenio Hall brings up the past party memories in 2014. He's like... don't go there.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince LOVED clubs. I would see him all the time at his Glam Slam club every week.

Right - I think the general consensus is that he did frequent many clubs, however, his purpose was not to get "wasted" on alcohol or drugs. It was tied to his music, image, and the women.

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The Glam Slam clubs were sales, marketing, and exposure for Prince. Also, he wanted his own place where he could perform whenever and however he wanted with his band. During the March 1986 Parade "tryout" at 1st Avenue he said to the crowd, "I just have a few more things I have to do, and then I'm going to come back and build a place where we can all hang out together, listen to music and dance." So, he had those clubs planned for a long time before they were built.

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince LOVED clubs. I would see him all the time at his Glam Slam club every week.

Right - I think the general consensus is that he did frequent many clubs, however, his purpose was not to get "wasted" on alcohol or drugs. It was tied to his music, image, and the women.

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The Glam Slam clubs were sales, marketing, and exposure for Prince. Also, he wanted his own place where he could perform whenever and however he wanted with his band. During the March 1986 Parade "tryout" at 1st Avenue he said to the crowd, "I just have a few more things I have to do, and then I'm going to come back and build a place where we can all hang out together, listen to music and dance." So, he had those clubs planned for a long time before they were built.

I think it's more about PPS than the clubs, but maybe.

bonatoc said:

violetcrush said:

Right - I think the general consensus is that he did frequent many clubs, however, his purpose was not to get "wasted" on alcohol or drugs. It was tied to his music, image, and the women.

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The Glam Slam clubs were sales, marketing, and exposure for Prince. Also, he wanted his own place where he could perform whenever and however he wanted with his band. During the March 1986 Parade "tryout" at 1st Avenue he said to the crowd, "I just have a few more things I have to do, and then I'm going to come back and build a place where we can all hang out together, listen to music and dance." So, he had those clubs planned for a long time before they were built.

I think it's more about PPS than the clubs, but maybe.

PPS ???

bonatoc said:

violetcrush said:

bonatoc said:

I think it's more about PPS than the clubs, but maybe.

PPS ???

Paisley Park Studios??

anangellooksdown said:

purplefam99 said:

anangellooksdown said:

He set a VERY firm boundary as to what how far Arsenio could go with him by making a false move to abandon the set.

I was shocked at Arsenio going there at all. With his famously private friend. I thought it was a jerk move friend to friend. But that isn’t the only jerk move Of arsenios in that interview.

I was never a fan of Arsenio's shows. I do not think he has the talent to be a good talk show host. I agree - a really low blow to Prince, who was doing him a favor by appearing on his then struggling show.

Here's a "day in the life" of Prince, as written by Alan Light from his April 1993 interview with Prince:

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"PRINCE DESPERATELY WANTS TO PLAY A club show after the San Francisco gig, but his throat is too sore. Instead, there’s a party at the DV8 club. He arrives with a phalanx of bodyguards, clears out half the room, and sits alone on a sofa. One of the security guys grabs me and sits me on the couch.

Prince hands me a banana-flavored lollipop. “I would have brought you a cigar, but I didn’t think you smoked,” he says. He pours us each a glass of port ("I learned about this from Arsenio"). Occasionally, acquaintances manage to make their way through the wall of security, but he is wary of touching them. “I don’t like shaking hands,” he says. “Brothers always feel like they got to give you that real firm handshake. Then you can’t play the piano the next day.”

We chat about the new contract he signed with Warner Bros., which was reported to be worth as much as $100 million. He says the deal is nothing like it is being reported, and though he wants most of the conversation to remain “just between us – I just wanted to talk about some of these things,” he makes a few mysterious comments that will prove crucial to the next stage of his continual metamorphosis.

“We have a new album finished,” he says conspiratorially, “but Warner Bros. doesn’t know it. From now on, Warner’s only gets old songs out of the vault. New songs we’ll play at shows. Music should be free, anyway.”

Before he heads off into the night, Prince lifts his glass of port and offers a toast.

Leaning closer, he whispers, “To Oz.” "

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

PPS ???

Paisley Park Studios??

What else?
The year is 1986 (they're about to open), and it was intended from the start as a complex with live and lounge facilities.
SOTT the movie was shot live in front of Minnesotans the year after the interview. There were afterparties (New Year's Eve). Doesn't it make sense?

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violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince LOVED clubs. I would see him all the time at his Glam Slam club every week.

Right - I think the general consensus is that he did frequent many clubs, however, his purpose was not to get "wasted" on alcohol or drugs. It was tied to his music, image, and the women.

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The Glam Slam clubs were sales, marketing, and exposure for Prince. Also, he wanted his own place where he could perform whenever and however he wanted with his band. During the March 1986 Parade "tryout" at 1st Avenue he said to the crowd, "I just have a few more things I have to do, and then I'm going to come back and build a place where we can all hang out together, listen to music and dance." So, he had those clubs planned for a long time before they were built.

I NEVER implied that Prince was a drug addict or "getting drunk there, passing out, cutting up, having to be dragged out and escorted home". Like some other "person" here said . !

I guess U people meaning of "Party Animal" is on some kind of drugs. Well my meaning is someone who enjoys parties and party activities very much and goes to as many as possible.

The rest U wrote I already know ALL about & more. Its NOTHING I don't know. I know EVERYTHING!

W/o knowing his drug habits, I think that we can safely say that, yes, Prince was a party animal and one of the best hosts any party has ever seen. I thought that he took hosting the party very seriously when he put on a show. So, yea, lyrical drug references and anecdotal stories aside, Prince knew how to party and we loved him for it. Otherwise, we would have stayed home and listened to My Bloody Valentine, counting the scuff marks on our shoes.

PliablyPurple said:

W/o knowing his drug habits, I think that we can safely say that, yes, Prince was a party animal and one of the best hosts any party has ever seen. I thought that he took hosting the party very seriously when he put on a show. So, yea, lyrical drug references and anecdotal stories aside,


Prince knew how to party and we loved him for it.
Otherwise, we would have stayed home and listened to My Bloody Valentine, counting the scuff marks on our shoes.

He's such an animal he even makes locks dance.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

Right - I think the general consensus is that he did frequent many clubs, however, his purpose was not to get "wasted" on alcohol or drugs. It was tied to his music, image, and the women.

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The Glam Slam clubs were sales, marketing, and exposure for Prince. Also, he wanted his own place where he could perform whenever and however he wanted with his band. During the March 1986 Parade "tryout" at 1st Avenue he said to the crowd, "I just have a few more things I have to do, and then I'm going to come back and build a place where we can all hang out together, listen to music and dance." So, he had those clubs planned for a long time before they were built.

I NEVER implied that Prince was a drug addict or "getting drunk there, passing out, cutting up, having to be dragged out and escorted home". Like some other "person" here said . !

I guess U people meaning of "Party Animal" is on some kind of drugs. Well my meaning is someone who enjoys parties and party activities very much and goes to as many as possible.

The rest U wrote I already know ALL about & more. Its NOTHING I don't know. I know EVERYTHING!

Didnt know he was on pain pillsnow did ya?

bonatoc said:

PliablyPurple said:

W/o knowing his drug habits, I think that we can safely say that, yes, Prince was a party animal and one of the best hosts any party has ever seen. I thought that he took hosting the party very seriously when he put on a show. So, yea, lyrical drug references and anecdotal stories aside,


Prince knew how to party and we loved him for it.
Otherwise, we would have stayed home and listened to My Bloody Valentine, counting the scuff marks on our shoes.

He's such an animal he even makes locks dance.

, but did he make Kevin Shields dance? /scandalous

bonatoc said:

violetcrush said:

Paisley Park Studios??

What else?
The year is 1986 (it's about to open), and it was intended from the start as a complex with live and lounge facilities.
SOTT the movie was shot live in front of Minnesotan the year after. There were afterparties (New Year's Eve). Doesn't it make sense?

Yes, but I think the plans for construction of PP had already been widely reported - that Prince was building a huge recording complex in MN. I don't think he was referring to Paisley Park during that concert. I'll have to go back and listen to his words, but I believe he used the word "club" when he talked about a place where they can all hang out and dance. He also said he "had a few more things to do first" before the opening the club, which I took to mean records and the next film which was GB.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

Right - I think the general consensus is that he did frequent many clubs, however, his purpose was not to get "wasted" on alcohol or drugs. It was tied to his music, image, and the women.

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The Glam Slam clubs were sales, marketing, and exposure for Prince. Also, he wanted his own place where he could perform whenever and however he wanted with his band. During the March 1986 Parade "tryout" at 1st Avenue he said to the crowd, "I just have a few more things I have to do, and then I'm going to come back and build a place where we can all hang out together, listen to music and dance." So, he had those clubs planned for a long time before they were built.

I NEVER implied that Prince was a drug addict or "getting drunk there, passing out, cutting up, having to be dragged out and escorted home". Like some other "person" here said . !

I guess U people meaning of "Party Animal" is on some kind of drugs. Well my meaning is someone who enjoys parties and party activities very much and goes to as many as possible.

The rest U wrote I already know ALL about & more. Its NOTHING I don't know. I know EVERYTHING!

Well....I think that is a stretch seeing as many describe Prince as spending most of his time in the VIP corner behind his bodyguards. Hosting/Attending many parties - yes. Really enjoying himself at said parties - not so much. He was not a naturally social guy, and he was most comfortable WAY up on stage - several feet above everyone else and performing with his band.

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I NEVER implied that Prince was a drug addict or "getting drunk there, passing out, cutting up, having to be dragged out and escorted home". Like some other "person" here said . !

I guess U people meaning of "Party Animal" is on some kind of drugs. Well my meaning is someone who enjoys parties and party activities very much and goes to as many as possible.

The rest U wrote I already know ALL about & more. Its NOTHING I don't know. I know EVERYTHING!

Well....I think that is a stretch seeing as many describe Prince as spending most of his time in the VIP corner behind his bodyguards. Hosting/Attending many parties - yes. Really enjoying himself at said parties - not so much. He was not a naturally social guy, and he was most comfortable WAY up on stage - several feet above everyone else and performing with his band.

Maybe in the 80's. But apparently U didn't hear about how he mingled around at his house parties with the guest, or at PP later in his life. Without Social Media superstars as big as Prince was back then were rarely seen in public settings besides award shows. They had to protect themselves at all cost. He couldn't just get up & mingle around like the average person ANYWHERE. Let alone a club.

rdhull said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I NEVER implied that Prince was a drug addict or "getting drunk there, passing out, cutting up, having to be dragged out and escorted home". Like some other "person" here said . !

I guess U people meaning of "Party Animal" is on some kind of drugs. Well my meaning is someone who enjoys parties and party activities very much and goes to as many as possible.

The rest U wrote I already know ALL about & more. Its NOTHING I don't know. I know EVERYTHING!

Didnt know he was on pain pillsnow did ya?

Later in life he was because he was SUFFERING privately in PAIN from YEARS of acrobatic dancing,splits & jumping off highrise speakers!

How DARE U say something so flippant?! After Prince picked U to party with him at his mansion.

You're a VERY sly, ungrateful person.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

rdhull said:

Didnt know he was on pain pillsnow did ya?

Later in life he was because he was SUFFERING privately in PAIN from YEARS of acrobatic dancing,splits & jumping off highrise speakers!

How DARE U say something so flippant?! After Prince picked U to party with him at his mansion.

You're a VERY sly, ungrateful person.

Im flippant towards YOU, not to or about Prince as you statued that "I know everything!" You are very narcissistic..for what reason I have no idea lol. And you are a very dangerous facist person with your trying to create narratives about ppl and things you dont like.

Heaven help you

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rdhull said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Later in life he was because he was SUFFERING privately in PAIN from YEARS of acrobatic dancing,splits & jumping off highrise speakers!

How DARE U say something so flippant?! After Prince picked U to party with him at his mansion.

You're a VERY sly, ungrateful person.

Im flippant towards YOU, not to or about Prince as you statued that "I know everything!" You are very narcissistic..for what reason I have no idea lol. And you are a very dangerous facist person with your trying to create narratives about ppl and things you dont like.

Heaven help you

i don't think so but I find it really surprising how many people had a prince story, usually at some social event. I don't get how he had the time to hang out that much in clubs and still get work done. hanging out in clubs would seem like a waste of time to a guy like that but he obviously did it a lot. Even before he died.

PeteSilas said:

i don't think so but I find it really surprising how many people had a prince story, usually at some social event. I don't get how he had the time to hang out that much in clubs and still get work done. hanging out in clubs would seem like a waste of time to a guy like that but he obviously did it a lot. Even before he died.

I agree. I don't think he would "hang out" socially in clubs as regular folks do. He would make his entrance with his entourage of bodyguards, assistants, and sometimes a woman or two. He would plant himself at his VIP table, and people would come to him if allowed through by his bodyguards. This has all been well documented and discussed by people in his camp.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

Well....I think that is a stretch seeing as many describe Prince as spending most of his time in the VIP corner behind his bodyguards. Hosting/Attending many parties - yes. Really enjoying himself at said parties - not so much. He was not a naturally social guy, and he was most comfortable WAY up on stage - several feet above everyone else and performing with his band.

Maybe in the 80's. But apparently U didn't hear about how he mingled around at his house parties with the guest, or at PP later in his life. Without Social Media superstars as big as Prince was back then were rarely seen in public settings besides award shows. They had to protect themselves at all cost. He couldn't just get up & mingle around like the average person ANYWHERE. Let alone a club.

Actually, I've heard and read all about his house parties in LA. But remember, these were parties where Prince was hand-picking guests to attend. There were never just random people showing up and given access. It was "Fort Knox" at those parties. He had security detail everywhere. These parties were organized by him to promote his records, proteges, and to keep him exposed to the music and LA scene. Most who attended were fellow musician friends, celebrities, and the occasional journalist if he wanted/needed media coverage of the event.

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Also, in the 80's he was much more open and accessible. He would hang out at First Avenue and dance with his camp. The social reclusion and heavier bodyguard coverage at clubs began more in the 90's. Here is an exerpt from the 1985 RS interview with the journalist describing Prince's night out:

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"As we pull up in front of First Avenue, a Saturday-night crowd is milling around outside, combing their hair, smoking cigarettes, holding hands. They stare with more interest than awe as Prince gets out of the car. “You want to go to the [VIP] booth?” asks the bouncer. “Naah,” says Prince. “I feel like dancing.”

A few feet off the packed dance floor stands the Family, taking a night off from rehearsing. Prince joins the band and laughs, kisses, soul shakes. Prince and three of Family members wade through a floor of Teddy-and-Eleanor-Mondale-brand funkettes and start moving. Many of the kids Prince passes either don’t see him or pretend they don’t care. Most of the rest turn their heads slightly to see the man go by, then simply continue their own motions."

rdhull said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Later in life he was because he was SUFFERING privately in PAIN from YEARS of acrobatic dancing,splits & jumping off highrise speakers!

How DARE U say something so flippant?! After Prince picked U to party with him at his mansion.

You're a VERY sly, ungrateful person.

Im flippant towards YOU, not to or about Prince as you statued that "I know everything!" You are very narcissistic..for what reason I have no idea lol. And you are a very dangerous facist person with your trying to create narratives about ppl and things you dont like.

Heaven help you

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"After Prince picked U to party with him at his mansion."

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rdhull - care to elaborate on that comment?? Give us some deets!!!