87 mtv aftershow

I'd like to add, to the UTCM premiere, I want to see the whole entrance parade

they had their women equestrians escorting Prince's limo into town

luvsexy4all said:

motherfunka said:

Any Lovesexy aftershow, but specifically the one that was filmed in Paisley Park's parking lot under a tent.

also in the hands of leggers

I'll believe it when I see it.

Easy: all of them.

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If bootleggars can take a stab (they did), so can the Estate.

Or can't they?

I am very curius about The War taping at Paisley Park I would love to see and hear the whole thing when he played it.

I consider his live perforance peak to be from 2009-2013. All of it was filmed and the sound quality is great. Lots of obscure stuff for the diehards and lots of hits for the casual fans. The possibilities for live box sets are limitless. We woudl all buy Montreux, North Sea, Welcome 2 America, the australia shows and much much more.

donnyenglish said:

I consider his live perforance peak to be from 2009-2013.

That's unfortunate.

luvsexy4all said:

jstar69 said:

Le new morning aftershow 1987 - have always hoped the soundboard existed for this concert and would one day get an official release

there is an exc quality out there

Still audience...

rdhull said:

donnyenglish said:

rdhull said:

That's unfortunate.

Give me a 4 year span that was better?

You know some fans worship P's 80's over anything else.

Im not sure I can. Its hard to quantify.

donnyenglish Give me a 4 year span that was better?

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donnyenglish said:

rdhull said:

That's unfortunate.

Give me a 4 year span that was better?

Im not sure I can. Its hard to quantify.

databank said:

donnyenglish said:

rdhull said: Give me a 4 year span that was better?

You know some fans worship P's 80's over anything else.

How can you really compare?? His music, style, and demeanor were different in just about every 4 year span. He constantly changed. You just can't compare his 80's live shows to the 90's or 2000's. Everybody has their favorites, but he and his music/style were different. Even when he played his 80's classics in later years it was a different sound - it was more polished instead of "raw". It was good but not the same.

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I agree with all of OF4S's choices plus Le New Morning 1987 and LoveSexy Tent Show...

violetcrush said:

databank said:

You know some fans worship P's 80's over anything else.

How can you really compare?? His music, style, and demeanor were different in just about every 4 year span. He constantly changed. You just can't compare his 80's live shows to the 90's or 2000's. Everybody has their favorites, but he and his music/style were different. Even when he played his 80's classics in later years it was a different sound - it was more polished instead of "raw". It was good but not the same.

Don't ask me!

databank said:

violetcrush said:

How can you really compare?? His music, style, and demeanor were different in just about every 4 year span. He constantly changed. You just can't compare his 80's live shows to the 90's or 2000's. Everybody has their favorites, but he and his music/style were different. Even when he played his 80's classics in later years it was a different sound - it was more polished instead of "raw". It was good but not the same.

Don't ask me!

Woops!! That reply was really for Donnyenglish

rdhull said:

donnyenglish said:

I consider his live perforance peak to be from 2009-2013.

That's unfortunate.

andrewm7 said:

I apologise in advance for posting multiple times on this thread, but I need to get this one out. I have just been listening to a recording of the Avalon show from 2009 and it made me so happy 😃 it also gave me pause,in that I can safely say I’m reasonably well acquainted with Prince’s music, and yet I believe that his best live performances might yet be unheard of by us! shows from house parties at 77 Beverly Park or 3121 could well have sounded as good as the Avalon gig I spoke of, Prince playing for fun brilliantly and without his guard up! And those Purple Rain era soundchecks where the band is off the hook, these to me are some of the best things I have heard in my life! And were it not for certain folk obtaining and treasuring certain domestic audio cassettes this music would almost certainly be gone for good. My point is that I suspect that “the best” we haven’t heard yet.

Hey andrewm7 I totally agree with you. Prince alluded to the fact that the vault was a treasure trove in some interviews, giving a hint of such in his last interview with Arsenio Hall. I was blown away watching the Lovesexy Tour behind the scenes video on YouTube where he was instructing his musicians. The rehearsal stuff is brilliant - guard down, getting the soundcheck done, listening to everyone else all at once, not performing but 'at work' so to speak. Those people who worked with him were so, so, so fortunate.

donnyenglish said:

I consider his live perforance peak to be from 2009-2013. All of it was filmed and the sound quality is great. Lots of obscure stuff for the diehards and lots of hits for the casual fans. The possibilities for live box sets are limitless. We woudl all buy Montreux, North Sea, Welcome 2 America, the australia shows and much much more.

I second that!!!

ballerinaL said:

andrewm7 said:

I apologise in advance for posting multiple times on this thread, but I need to get this one out. I have just been listening to a recording of the Avalon show from 2009 and it made me so happy 😃 it also gave me pause,in that I can safely say I’m reasonably well acquainted with Prince’s music, and yet I believe that his best live performances might yet be unheard of by us! shows from house parties at 77 Beverly Park or 3121 could well have sounded as good as the Avalon gig I spoke of, Prince playing for fun brilliantly and without his guard up! And those Purple Rain era soundchecks where the band is off the hook, these to me are some of the best things I have heard in my life! And were it not for certain folk obtaining and treasuring certain domestic audio cassettes this music would almost certainly be gone for good. My point is that I suspect that “the best” we haven’t heard yet.

Hey andrewm7 I totally agree with you. Prince alluded to the fact that the vault was a treasure trove in some interviews, giving a hint of such in his last interview with Arsenio Hall. I was blown away watching the Lovesexy Tour behind the scenes video on YouTube where he was instructing his musicians. The rehearsal stuff is brilliant - guard down, getting the soundcheck done, listening to everyone else all at once, not performing but 'at work' so to speak. Those people who worked with him were so, so, so fortunate.

Did I miss that?

violetcrush said:

donnyenglish said:

violetcrush said:

How can you really compare?? His music, style, and demeanor were different in just about every 4 year span. He constantly changed. You just can't compare his 80's live shows to the 90's or 2000's. Everybody has their favorites, but he and his music/style were different. Even when he played his 80's classics in later years it was a different sound - it was more polished instead of "raw". It was good but not the same.

*

I agree with all of OF4S's choices plus Le New Morning 1987 and LoveSexy Tent Show...

I think you can objectively compare his live shows. The 80’s were all very tight well rehearsed shows. SOTT and Lovesexy were great tours and there were some great aftershows in 1988. But, from 2009-2013 there was a lot of variation, a lot of great aftershows, a lot of one off unique shows and a lot of hits for casual fans. He looked great, his bands were tight and they could play everything.

And the bands etc from 87-88 werent tight and couldnt play everything? The 92-94 bands either? They didnt have any variation? wow...

databank said:

ballerinaL said:

Hey andrewm7 I totally agree with you. Prince alluded to the fact that the vault was a treasure trove in some interviews, giving a hint of such in his last interview with Arsenio Hall. I was blown away watching the Lovesexy Tour behind the scenes video on YouTube where he was instructing his musicians. The rehearsal stuff is brilliant - guard down, getting the soundcheck done, listening to everyone else all at once, not performing but 'at work' so to speak. Those people who worked with him were so, so, so fortunate.

Did I miss that?

Sorry it was Steve Purcell: A day in the Life 1990 [img:$uid]http://i65.tinypic.com/1euafs.jpg[/img:$uid]

Check out the warmup forward kick P does on his way to the stage. As I have said before, he would have been a gorgeous ballet dancer.

rdhull said:

ballerinaL said:

databank said:

Did I miss that?

Sorry it was Steve Purcell: A day in the Life 1990 [img:$uid]http://i65.tinypic.com/1euafs.jpg[/img:$uid]

Check out the warmup forward kick P does on his way to the stage. As I have said before, he would have been a gorgeous ballet dancer.

There's also an old "behind the scenes" video of the LoveSexy tour that was professionally shot which has been circulating on YT for awhile now. Clips of stage rehearsals, after shows, musicians and band members interviewed about the tour and his music, etc. Been out for a long time.

donnyenglish said:

violetcrush said:

How can you really compare?? His music, style, and demeanor were different in just about every 4 year span. He constantly changed. You just can't compare his 80's live shows to the 90's or 2000's. Everybody has their favorites, but he and his music/style were different. Even when he played his 80's classics in later years it was a different sound - it was more polished instead of "raw". It was good but not the same.

*

I agree with all of OF4S's choices plus Le New Morning 1987 and LoveSexy Tent Show...

I think you can objectively compare his live shows. The 80’s were all very tight well rehearsed shows. SOTT and Lovesexy were great tours and there were some great aftershows in 1988. But, from 2009-2013 there was a lot of variation, a lot of great aftershows, a lot of one off unique shows and a lot of hits for casual fans. He looked great, his bands were tight and they could play everything.

Don't kid yourself. EVERY period of Prince's music was well rehearsed with EVERY band. When he wasn't recording or performing he was rehearsing - for hours and hours. This has been confirmed by just about all of his band members from all periods.

*

The Purple Rain concerts had to be tight, because they were following the story of the film. Same with SOTT and LoveSexy - he was telling a story within the music. However, during the extra long encores on the PR tour Prince majorly spread out and there was not only variation, but he was also playing songs from ATWIAD. Alan Light talks about his experience at a PR concert in his book. He and his friend decided to stay after most of the crowd had filed out, because they had a feeling the band wasn't done. They jumped rows to get closer to the stage, and a few minutes later Prince and band came back out and played America.

*

Was Prince more "polished" by 2009? Of course, as 30 years of constant performing would naturally enhance your ability. By that point, he was also able to employ the best technically skilled players available, but that doesn't always translate to the most inspired or unique performances.

violetcrush said:

donnyenglish said:

violetcrush said: I think you can objectively compare his live shows. The 80’s were all very tight well rehearsed shows. SOTT and Lovesexy were great tours and there were some great aftershows in 1988. But, from 2009-2013 there was a lot of variation, a lot of great aftershows, a lot of one off unique shows and a lot of hits for casual fans. He looked great, his bands were tight and they could play everything.

Don't kid yourself. EVERY period of Prince's music was well rehearsed with EVERY band. When he wasn't recording or performing he was rehearsing - for hours and hours. This has been confirmed by just about all of his band members from all periods.

*

The Purple Rain concerts had to be tight, because they were following the story of the film. Same with SOTT and LoveSexy - he was telling a story within the music. However, during the extra long encores on the PR tour Prince majorly spread out and there was not only variation, but he was also playing songs from ATWIAD. Alan Light talks about his experience at a PR concert in his book. He and his friend decided to stay after most of the crowd had filed out, because they had a feeling the band wasn't done. They jumped rows to get closer to the stage, and a few minutes later Prince and band came back out and played America.

*

Was Prince more "polished" by 2009? Of course, as 30 years of constant performing would naturally enhance your ability. By that point, he was also able to employ the best technically skilled players available, but that doesn't always translate to the most inspired or unique performances.

My point exactly. Thank you. I dont see Cora, 3rd Eye and them able to do a Beautiful Night aftershow style etc etc

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rdhull said:

violetcrush said:

Don't kid yourself. EVERY period of Prince's music was well rehearsed with EVERY band. When he wasn't recording or performing he was rehearsing - for hours and hours. This has been confirmed by just about all of his band members from all periods.

*

The Purple Rain concerts had to be tight, because they were following the story of the film. Same with SOTT and LoveSexy - he was telling a story within the music. However, during the extra long encores on the PR tour Prince majorly spread out and there was not only variation, but he was also playing songs from ATWIAD. Alan Light talks about his experience at a PR concert in his book. He and his friend decided to stay after most of the crowd had filed out, because they had a feeling the band wasn't done. They jumped rows to get closer to the stage, and a few minutes later Prince and band came back out and played America.

*

Was Prince more "polished" by 2009? Of course, as 30 years of constant performing would naturally enhance your ability. By that point, he was also able to employ the best technically skilled players available, but that doesn't always translate to the most inspired or unique performances.

My point exactly. Thank you. I dont see Cora, 3rd Eye and them able to do a Beautiful Night aftershow style etc etc

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[Edited 11/3/18 9:28am]

Right! The late 80's after shows are some of the best. He was young, energetic, extremely prolific and passionate about the music. He was in hard core constant creative mode and was still far from settling back into his "icon" status at concerts. Even the 93-95 period - both concerts and after shows were so good, because he was pissed off and rebelling against WB and their "pop star" process. I love those after shows too. He would do, say and play anything he wanted. The music still had that raw, biting sound to it.

udo said: