RJOrion said:

his hair....as a black man with naturally "peasey, nappy" hair, i always admired/envied his hair, and the different ways he could rock it and the effect it had on the women...i have always wished i could have hair of that texture...

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OMG!! Yess!!

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I would have loved to touch it (his hair), LOL

cloveringold85 said:

RJOrion said:

his hair....as a black man with naturally "peasey, nappy" hair, i always admired/envied his hair, and the different ways he could rock it and the effect it had on the women...i have always wished i could have hair of that texture...

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OMG!! Yess!!

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I would have loved to touch it (his hair), LOL

bad ..bad ..bad..u KNOW he didnt like it when people touched his hair

luvsexy4all said:

cloveringold85 said:

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OMG!! Yess!!

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I would have loved to touch it (his hair), LOL

bad ..bad ..bad..u KNOW he didnt like it when people touched his hair

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I would say......please, pretty please??

His guitar solos blow my mind as does some of his songwriting.

anangellooksdown said:

I suppose he never counted time so in his mind being creative had no off switch.
Must go down in history in similar fashion on how the Egyptians built the pyramids.

anangellooksdown said:

“In the beginning God made the sea But on the 7th day he made me He was tryin' to rest y'all when He heard the sound Sound like a guitar cold gettin' down I tried to bust a high note, but I bust a string My God was worried 'til he heard me sing My name is Prince...”

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I dont want to blow any smoke about "Prince's excellence," but...

over the past 20 years:

Has Radiohead been funky?

Has Radiohead been fun?

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No, and no.

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That's all I wanted to say.

TheFman said:

Lovejunky said:

Gahhhhhhh....

Radiowho ?

Prince made that his own...

Thanks my Friend

oh pleaaaase!! Radiohead makes Prince bleak over the last 20 years. His cover of Creep was so-so at best (much shouting, little content), and that solo - while good - was pretty generic to his own high standards.

[Edited 5/16/18 6:12am]

BVH: Prince didn't weasel out of anything. We're all certain by now that he had PLENTY of recordings to offer to the record label--just check any recent thread on the vault. WB wanted to let him go and they offered a different agreement to get that done. The battling was taxing on the label, and the label obviously had been taxing to Prince who wished to achieve goals that WB was unwilling or unable to help him realize at that point. Understand that any artist has the right to feel that way and to make a change. Look at what Tom Petty had been up to while disagreeing with his own labels' actions (https://www.cnbc.com/2017...ustry.html)--understand also that Prince never filed for bankruptcy, btw. Petty's circumstances were not perfectly comparable to Prince's, but it remains to say that one just might want to fight against a contract.

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RodeoSchro: Please pardon my indolence, but BVH has been so stuck on that sucky 90s deal--incidentally, that Prince quickly came to understand the true value of after failing to read the fine print--that it appears to have deeply altered his appreciation of the artist that this forum is dedicated to. He'll have to live with that and find his own way out of his old funk; I doubt that he would be aided by anybody else's desire to help. Don't handicap yourself. Your offer only fuels his disdain, I'd say, if you give a care!

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More than enough said.

RodeoSchro said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Yeah, let's applaud Prince for failing to listen to his entourage. Let's celebrate that he wanted to have "the biggest record deal ever" instead of using his brain. And then weaseled out of the deal thanks to a sympathetic exec who accepted two mediocre albums instead of demanding the three proper albums he owed.

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The deal was so ridiculous that journalists were mocking it mere days after it was announced. Yet Prince failed to notice this. https://musicfans.stackex...m/a/89/129

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Oh, and the Stones already had shown the evils of bad contracts in 1971. https://en.wikipedia.org/...ing_Stones

Please tell me what it would take to make you happy. If it's reasonable and within my power, I will do it.

Germanegro said:

I dont want to blow any smoke about "Prince's excellence," but...

over the past 20 years:

Has Radiohead been funky?

Has Radiohead been fun?

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No, and no.

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That's all I wanted to say.

TheFman said:

oh pleaaaase!! Radiohead makes Prince bleak over the last 20 years. His cover of Creep was so-so at best (much shouting, little content), and that solo - while good - was pretty generic to his own high standards.

[Edited 5/16/18 6:12am]

you dont know how to make fun. That's all i wanted to say.

TheFman said:

Germanegro said:

I dont want to blow any smoke about "Prince's excellence," but...

over the past 20 years:

Has Radiohead been funky?

Has Radiohead been fun?

>

No, and no.

>

That's all I wanted to say.

you dont know how to make fun. That's all i wanted to say.

You know that I wasn't trying to make fun!

How hard he worked.

Germanegro said:

BVH: Prince didn't weasel out of anything. We're all certain by now that he had PLENTY of recordings to offer to the record label--just check any recent thread on the vault. WB wanted to let him go and they offered a different agreement to get that done. The battling was taxing on the label, and the label obviously had been taxing to Prince who wished to achieve goals that WB was unwilling or unable to help him realize at that point. Understand that any artist has the right to feel that way and to make a change. Look at what Tom Petty had been up to while disagreeing with his own labels' actions (https://www.cnbc.com/2017...ustry.html)--understand also that Prince never filed for bankruptcy, btw. Petty's circumstances were not perfectly comparable to Prince's, but it remains to say that one just might want to fight against a contract.

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RodeoSchro: Please pardon my indolence, but BVH has been so stuck on that sucky 90s deal--incidentally, that Prince quickly came to understand the true value of after failing to read the fine print--that it appears to have deeply altered his appreciation of the artist that this forum is dedicated to. He'll have to live with that and find his own way out of his old funk; I doubt that he would be aided by anybody else's desire to help. Don't handicap yourself. Your offer only fuels his disdain, I'd say, if you give a care!

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More than enough said.

RodeoSchro said:

Please tell me what it would take to make you happy. If it's reasonable and within my power, I will do it.

I know. I've known Bart - in the internet posting sense - for over 30 years. He's been the most uniformly negative poster I've ever run across. My personal theory is that Prince stole his girlfriend or something like that. I can't think of any other reason why someone would routinely criticize an artist llike he has for the better part of three decades.

Telling him what a sourpuss he's been hasn't made him better or happy, so I thought I'd just come right out and ask him what it would take to make him happy.

He hasn't responded. Maybe he doesn't want to be happy. I don't know.

It's just all of it put together. Tons of people are great at something. Very few of them are the best or even arguably the best in the world. Even fewer are the best ever at what they did. And even fewer of them still could be said that there'll never be another who could possibly best that person.

And then there's Prince.

If Prince focused on ONE thing, he would have easily been spoken of as the best that ever lived at that task.

If he focused on guitar, they'd speak of Jimi, Clapton, and Van Halen like "they're great, then there's Prince."

If he focused on songwriting, they'd have him on Mount Rushmore with Lennon

If he focused on choreography, he'd be talked about as the best ever

If he focused on fashion, they'd be saying at the Oscars, "She's wearing a Versace, and she's wearing a Prince!"

If he focused on classical piano, ... best ever

If he focused on producing, what, "Babyface" would eclipse him? Jimmy Jam & T.L? Um, no.

But he didn't focus on one thing. He did all that I listed, he did it better than anybody in his lifetime, and on top of that he made movies, put on shows that changed people, and he wore 5" high heels, and nobody said a word about it.

He was fearless and had 100% confidence in his art at all times. It's undeniable that there has never lived another soul who could do what he did, and just as undeniable that there will never be another who can as long as man walks this planet.

jasopig said:

It's just all of it put together. Tons of people are great at something. Very few of them are the best or even arguably the best in the world. Even fewer are the best ever at what they did. And even fewer of them still could be said that there'll never be another who could possibly best that person.

And then there's Prince.

If Prince focused on ONE thing, he would have easily been spoken of as the best that ever lived at that task.

If he focused on guitar, they'd speak of Jimi, Clapton, and Van Halen like "they're great, then there's Prince."

If he focused on songwriting, they'd have him on Mount Rushmore with Lennon

If he focused on choreography, he'd be talked about as the best ever

If he focused on fashion, they'd be saying at the Oscars, "She's wearing a Versace, and she's wearing a Prince!"

If he focused on classical piano, ... best ever

If he focused on producing, what, "Babyface" would eclipse him? Jimmy Jam & T.L? Um, no.

But he didn't focus on one thing. He did all that I listed, he did it better than anybody in his lifetime, and on top of that he made movies, put on shows that changed people, and he wore 5" high heels, and nobody said a word about it.

He was fearless and had 100% confidence in his art at all times. It's undeniable that there has never lived another soul who could do what he did, and just as undeniable that there will never be another who can as long as man walks this planet.

jasopig, I LOVE what you wrote!

206Michelle said:

jasopig said:

It's just all of it put together. Tons of people are great at something. Very few of them are the best or even arguably the best in the world. Even fewer are the best ever at what they did. And even fewer of them still could be said that there'll never be another who could possibly best that person.

And then there's Prince.

If Prince focused on ONE thing, he would have easily been spoken of as the best that ever lived at that task.

If he focused on guitar, they'd speak of Jimi, Clapton, and Van Halen like "they're great, then there's Prince."

If he focused on songwriting, they'd have him on Mount Rushmore with Lennon

If he focused on choreography, he'd be talked about as the best ever

If he focused on fashion, they'd be saying at the Oscars, "She's wearing a Versace, and she's wearing a Prince!"

If he focused on classical piano, ... best ever

If he focused on producing, what, "Babyface" would eclipse him? Jimmy Jam & T.L? Um, no.

But he didn't focus on one thing. He did all that I listed, he did it better than anybody in his lifetime, and on top of that he made movies, put on shows that changed people, and he wore 5" high heels, and nobody said a word about it.

He was fearless and had 100% confidence in his art at all times. It's undeniable that there has never lived another soul who could do what he did, and just as undeniable that there will never be another who can as long as man walks this planet.

jasopig, I LOVE what you wrote!

CO SIGN

4 EVER

jasopig said:

It's just all of it put together. Tons of people are great at something. Very few of them are the best or even arguably the best in the world. Even fewer are the best ever at what they did. And even fewer of them still could be said that there'll never be another who could possibly best that person.

And then there's Prince.

If Prince focused on ONE thing, he would have easily been spoken of as the best that ever lived at that task.

If he focused on guitar, they'd speak of Jimi, Clapton, and Van Halen like "they're great, then there's Prince."

If he focused on songwriting, they'd have him on Mount Rushmore with Lennon

If he focused on choreography, he'd be talked about as the best ever

If he focused on fashion, they'd be saying at the Oscars, "She's wearing a Versace, and she's wearing a Prince!"

If he focused on classical piano, ... best ever

If he focused on producing, what, "Babyface" would eclipse him? Jimmy Jam & T.L? Um, no.

But he didn't focus on one thing. He did all that I listed, he did it better than anybody in his lifetime, and on top of that he made movies, put on shows that changed people, and he wore 5" high heels, and nobody said a word about it.

He was fearless and had 100% confidence in his art at all times. It's undeniable that there has never lived another soul who could do what he did, and just as undeniable that there will never be another who can as long as man walks this planet.

Many people who try to be "well rounded" inevitably fail because they never end up specializing or being exceptional at one or two things. Prince was an exception to this. When it came to music he was GREAT at playing so many instruments, at dancing, and so many other aspects of his craft. Among those things at which he was GREAT, there is a subgroup of things at which he was INCREDIBLE (in my opinion): as a guitarist, as a vocalist, as a songwriter/composer, as a live performer (although I never saw him live, I have seen videos), as a producer, and as a pianist/keyboardist.

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I'm probably biased because I f-ing love Prince, but I can't think of anyone in the 20th century as comprehensively or thoroughly talented as he was in so many aspects of making music. Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, and Elton John are in the discussion, but none of them could play as many instruments as Prince. They are all incredible songwriters. Elton and Stevie are as good on the piano/keyboards (if not better), but none of these three could come close to Prince on the electric guitar and Prince beats all three of them in dance. Not only that, but Prince's catalogue is the most varied because he TRANSCENDS genres since his styles are so varied. Listen to, for example, Diamonds and Pearls, Chaos and Disorder, and Lovesexy. He composed two best-selling soundtracks: Purple Rain and Batman. There were very few aspects of making music that he could not do. He is, in my book, the greatest popular music musician of the 20th century.

206Michelle said:

jasopig said:

It's just all of it put together. Tons of people are great at something. Very few of them are the best or even arguably the best in the world. Even fewer are the best ever at what they did. And even fewer of them still could be said that there'll never be another who could possibly best that person.

And then there's Prince.

If Prince focused on ONE thing, he would have easily been spoken of as the best that ever lived at that task.

If he focused on guitar, they'd speak of Jimi, Clapton, and Van Halen like "they're great, then there's Prince."

If he focused on songwriting, they'd have him on Mount Rushmore with Lennon

If he focused on choreography, he'd be talked about as the best ever

If he focused on fashion, they'd be saying at the Oscars, "She's wearing a Versace, and she's wearing a Prince!"

If he focused on classical piano, ... best ever

If he focused on producing, what, "Babyface" would eclipse him? Jimmy Jam & T.L? Um, no.

But he didn't focus on one thing. He did all that I listed, he did it better than anybody in his lifetime, and on top of that he made movies, put on shows that changed people, and he wore 5" high heels, and nobody said a word about it.

He was fearless and had 100% confidence in his art at all times. It's undeniable that there has never lived another soul who could do what he did, and just as undeniable that there will never be another who can as long as man walks this planet.

Many people who try to be "well rounded" inevitably fail because they never end up specializing or being exceptional at one or two things. Prince was an exception to this. When it came to music he was GREAT at playing so many instruments, at dancing, and so many other aspects of his craft. Among those things at which he was GREAT, there is a subgroup of things at which he was INCREDIBLE (in my opinion): as a guitarist, as a vocalist, as a songwriter/composer, as a live performer (although I never saw him live, I have seen videos), as a producer, and as a pianist/keyboardist.

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I'm probably biased because I f-ing love Prince, but I can't think of anyone in the 20th century as comprehensively or thoroughly talented as he was in so many aspects of making music. Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, and Elton John are in the discussion, but none of them could play as many instruments as Prince. They are all incredible songwriters. Elton and Stevie are as good on the piano/keyboards (if not better), but none of these three could come close to Prince on the electric guitar and Prince beats all three of them in dance. Not only that, but Prince's catalogue is the most varied because he TRANSCENDS genres since his styles are so varied. Listen to, for example, Diamonds and Pearls, Chaos and Disorder, and Lovesexy. He composed two best-selling soundtracks: Purple Rain and Batman. There were very few aspects of making music that he could not do. He is, in my book, the greatest popular music musician of the 20th century.

Totally agree....History will prove that....

Lovejunky said:

206Michelle said:

Many people who try to be "well rounded" inevitably fail because they never end up specializing or being exceptional at one or two things. Prince was an exception to this. When it came to music he was GREAT at playing so many instruments, at dancing, and so many other aspects of his craft. Among those things at which he was GREAT, there is a subgroup of things at which he was INCREDIBLE (in my opinion): as a guitarist, as a vocalist, as a songwriter/composer, as a live performer (although I never saw him live, I have seen videos), as a producer, and as a pianist/keyboardist.

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I'm probably biased because I f-ing love Prince, but I can't think of anyone in the 20th century as comprehensively or thoroughly talented as he was in so many aspects of making music. Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, and Elton John are in the discussion, but none of them could play as many instruments as Prince. They are all incredible songwriters. Elton and Stevie are as good on the piano/keyboards (if not better), but none of these three could come close to Prince on the electric guitar and Prince beats all three of them in dance. Not only that, but Prince's catalogue is the most varied because he TRANSCENDS genres since his styles are so varied. Listen to, for example, Diamonds and Pearls, Chaos and Disorder, and Lovesexy. He composed two best-selling soundtracks: Purple Rain and Batman. There were very few aspects of making music that he could not do. He is, in my book, the greatest popular music musician of the 20th century.

Totally agree....History will prove that....

when will the output of the freakin estate prove it....?

For me it's the beginning the song "For You" perfect opening for Prince career.

Dimitri10 said:

anangellooksdown said:

Yes Dimitri. Now that you mention it, that is what blows my mind more than anything. Including how many people he somehow had the time to spend with. WHERE did he get all those hours??

I suppose he never counted time so in his mind being creative had no off switch. Must go down in history in similar fashion on how the Egyptians built the pyramids.

Prince had slaves?

TheFman said:

Yes the Solo was basically uninspired and soulless compared to his finer moments. It’s also very repetitive. It’s still cool, but I’m sure he had probably never even given the Solo a thought till he was doing it

BartVanHemelen said:

littlemissG said:

Visionary After I watched How Prince Changes The Music Industry, Inrealized every artist with a deal owes him a debt for saying no to the system.

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Yeah, let's applaud Prince for failing to listen to his entourage. Let's celebrate that he wanted to have "the biggest record deal ever" instead of using his brain. And then weaseled out of the deal thanks to a sympathetic exec who accepted two mediocre albums instead of demanding the three proper albums he owed.

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The deal was so ridiculous that journalists were mocking it mere days after it was announced. Yet Prince failed to notice this. https://musicfans.stackex...m/a/89/129

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Oh, and the Stones already had shown the evils of bad contracts in 1971. https://en.wikipedia.org/...ing_Stones

I wouldn't trade Prince's paranoid Xanadu adventures for the whole wide submission to shareholders.
"Failing to listen"? That's your opinion. The entourage's advice was "get back in line".
Don't cross it.

Without all the struggles that came before, would the triumph of the drenching Super Bowl even exist?
Would the guitar have wept as good, that gently vengeful?

Fuck Warner, fuck all the tepid business minions. No balls at all. 1986 should have been the "five albums" year.
Fuck them, by now Prince's catalogue sales would be closer to half a billion.
They just wanted immediate revenue on investment, instead of letting him really loose.
Who cares if there's always a Prince single on the radio? Who cares if he does a tour a year?
At least they would have gotten immediate return on investment on The Vault,
instead of letting the many potential hits it contains rot for decades, until it's too late.

Of course he was expensive, so what? He was always even, and more. You don't ask Genius to bend to standard ways.
Up until he got rightly mad at them for seeing him as a company's commodity.
"Think you own me? Here's a self-produced international number one hit, motherfuckers."

Columbia would never have this.

[Edited 6/1/18 2:17am]

BartVanHemelen said:

littlemissG said:

Visionary After I watched How Prince Changes The Music Industry, Inrealized every artist with a deal owes him a debt for saying no to the system.

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Yeah, let's applaud Prince for failing to listen to his entourage. Let's celebrate that he wanted to have "the biggest record deal ever" instead of using his brain. And then weaseled out of the deal thanks to a sympathetic exec who accepted two mediocre albums instead of demanding the three proper albums he owed.

.

The deal was so ridiculous that journalists were mocking it mere days after it was announced. Yet Prince failed to notice this. https://musicfans.stackex...m/a/89/129

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Oh, and the Stones already had shown the evils of bad contracts in 1971. https://en.wikipedia.org/...ing_Stones