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Reply #150 posted 04/19/18 10:09am

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

NO. Just that Kirk's name was on 2 scripts and pills ended up in P's possession.

But this is not new information is it? Or did they just confirm what was previously rumors?

We knew about the 1 script, but there was another script that KJ obtained from a dentist office, that was found at P's.

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Reply #151 posted 04/19/18 10:11am

kmama07

PennyPurple said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




kmama07 said:


Thanks for the link to live stream. Tough to listen to. Question: So Dr S. Gets fined for writing script...Is KJ not also somehow in the wrong for allowing it to be written in his name (I'm not railroading KJ per se. I'd ask the same question regarding whomever script was written out to)?



I do not think they should have even fined the DR he had nothing to do with what killer Prince. Even if he took all 5 of the unaccounted for Percoset, that would not have killed him. And that was AFTER the OD on the plane. So they must have known he was taking something stronger than Vicodin.



I wish they would've fined KJ or something. It is illegal to give your scripts to someone else.


Yes. I don't understand why if one is in trouble (Dr. S) the other is not (KJ).
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Reply #152 posted 04/19/18 10:11am

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PennyPurple said:



LilaLiebe said:




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Now hopefully folks will stop with the murder, pointing fingers and looking for a scape goat shit.



The murder nuts are already saying they're going to go to Minneapolis in June and "demand" Kirk, the chefs, et al be 'brought to justice'. They're also saying they're going to crash some party Trump is going to tomorrow to demand that HE do something. sigh It will never stop. sad



Oh sheesh. I think this pretty much answered our questions. And none of us knew the real Prince. Drug free, clean living, was a lie.


He was another victim of the opiate crisis. It wasn't a lie. It wasn't deliberate on his part. People don't see taking pills as an illicit act the same way as street drugs. It was medication even if he eventually misused it. I refuse to be disappointed in him.
[Edited 4/19/18 10:13am]
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Reply #153 posted 04/19/18 10:13am

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goddamn that was depressing. It pretty much summarized what many of us have concluded based on the info that's come out (the warrants etc.) but hearing it all stated like that is just... what. a. waste. It does seen like his obsession with privacy, with not displaying fallability -- the stuff that in some ways made him such an intriguiging artist -- is also what killed him.

kmama07 said:

PennyPurple said:

Off the street like I've been saying for 2 years.

Yes. Heartbreaking .

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Reply #154 posted 04/19/18 10:13am

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

NO. Just that Kirk's name was on 2 scripts and pills ended up in P's possession.

But this is not new information is it? Or did they just confirm what was previously rumors?



Not new info.

It was in the search warrants.

Kirk's name was only on one script for opiates. The other scripts in Kirk's name were non-controlled substances.

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Reply #155 posted 04/19/18 10:13am

kmama07

LilaLiebe said:



sonshine said:


LilaLiebe said:


Yes, this, a thousand times. This is something I'm very worried about. Please PLEASE I hope people will use tact and restraint re: any photos available. This entire situation is so tragic and heartbreaking and I can't bear the thought of MORE exploitation. I'm praying there aren't any photos "worth" splashing all over the place.



They have to release them. Its the law. Would be nice to think no one would be motivated to access them, but there are a lot of twisted people in the world.

Oh no, I do understand that the law says they must be released. I just hope and wish that people wouldn't have that motivation to use any photos in an exploitative, sensationalistic way (or manipulative way)...but like you said, there are a lot of twisted people in this world and I know my hopeful thinking/wishing is actually pretty futile. sad


Sadly, if someone is able to profit from them they will be exploited.
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Reply #156 posted 04/19/18 10:18am

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Oh sheesh. I think this pretty much answered our questions. And none of us knew the real Prince. Drug free, clean living, was a lie.



OK I think this is incredibly harsh. We still don’t know why he was taking this stuff in the first place. IF for example it was for chronic pain is that something he needed to disclose? Is he not allowed to keep that private? I refuse to pass judgement because I have no idea what the hell he was dealing with.
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Reply #157 posted 04/19/18 10:19am

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Now let's get that estate settled!!!!!
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #158 posted 04/19/18 10:20am

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:


Oh sheesh. I think this pretty much answered our questions. And none of us knew the real Prince. Drug free, clean living, was a lie.



OK I think this is incredibly harsh. We still don’t know why he was taking this stuff in the first place. IF for example it was for chronic pain is that something he needed to disclose? Is he not allowed to keep that private? I refuse to pass judgement because I have no idea what the hell he was dealing with.

Co-sign.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #159 posted 04/19/18 10:21am

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PRINCE DEATH INVESTIGATION: The Carver County, Minnesota prosecutor says there's not enough evidence to charge anyone in the death of Prince, who overdosed after taking counterfeit Vicodin laced with Fentanyl.


Prosecutor declines to file criminal charges in Prince death investigation

http://www.fox13news.com/...estigation

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Reply #160 posted 04/19/18 10:21am

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I really think that since some of P's family is in MN this week they need to have a press conference PRONTO. If there was another illness like cancer and such, they just need to come out and tell us. Otherwise it's just another Celeb that was on drugs. Looks like Lisa's comment that she heard he was using is true.


Also drills the fact into my head that the 1 closest to him, did nothing to help him. What a shame and what a waste.

[Edited 4/19/18 10:23am]

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Reply #161 posted 04/19/18 10:23am

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kmama07 said:

PennyPurple said:

I wish they would've fined KJ or something. It is illegal to give your scripts to someone else.

Yes. I don't understand why if one is in trouble (Dr. S) the other is not (KJ).

because KJ is not obligated to know the laws. But an MD is. There is just a higher standard, especially for controlled substances.

"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #162 posted 04/19/18 10:25am

kmama07

PennyPurple said:

I really think that since some of P's family is in MN this week they need to have a press conference PRONTO. If there was another illness like cancer and such, they just need to come out and tell us. Otherwise it's just another Celeb that was on drugs. Looks like Lisa's comment that she heard he was using is true.



Also drills the fact into my head that the 1 closest to him, did nothing to help him. What a shame and what a waste.

[Edited 4/19/18 10:23am]


That will, unfortunately, become the narrative unless the family is to come up with viable evidence of something else. Again, heartbreaking.
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Reply #163 posted 04/19/18 10:28am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



kmama07 said:


PennyPurple said:


I wish they would've fined KJ or something. It is illegal to give your scripts to someone else.



Yes. I don't understand why if one is in trouble (Dr. S) the other is not (KJ).



because KJ is not obligated to know the laws. But an MD is. There is just a higher standard, especially for controlled substances.


Got it. Thank you.
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Reply #164 posted 04/19/18 10:28am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said: But this is not new information is it? Or did they just confirm what was previously rumors?



Not new info.

It was in the search warrants.

Kirk's name was only on one script for opiates. The other scripts in Kirk's name were non-controlled substances.

No, new info has been released, there were 2 pain scripts for Kirk.

Agents also recovered a CVS prescription pill container with 10 white round pills with “TV150” stamped on one side and “3” on another, which indicates an acetaminophen/codeine mixture. But, according to the search warrants, those pills were thought to be an unused prescription written by a Minnesota dentist for Johnson.

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Reply #165 posted 04/19/18 10:29am

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

Oh sheesh. I think this pretty much answered our questions. And none of us knew the real Prince. Drug free, clean living, was a lie.

OK I think this is incredibly harsh. We still don’t know why he was taking this stuff in the first place. IF for example it was for chronic pain is that something he needed to disclose? Is he not allowed to keep that private? I refuse to pass judgement because I have no idea what the hell he was dealing with.

Exactly. He was a musician that made records for fans to buy and played concerts for fans to enjoy. He didn't force anybody to believe what he believed. If you're disappointed, that's on you.

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Reply #166 posted 04/19/18 10:30am

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Just to clarify, after 2 years on investigation the Police have come up....nothing.
Am I not right in saying that at least one person must know about the counterfeit drugs. Either Prince was hanging around on street corners and he was way too famous for that but even then the dealer knows he dealt to him. Or someone got the tablets for him again they would know. But the Police can't find the source. With the recent opioid crisis in the US it doesn't give you much hope.
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Reply #167 posted 04/19/18 10:30am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

because KJ is not obligated to know the laws. But an MD is. There is just a higher standard, especially for controlled substances.

I know the law and I'm not an MD. It says it on the bottles. You can't give your scripts to someone else.

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Reply #168 posted 04/19/18 10:30am

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disch said:

goddamn that was depressing. It pretty much summarized what many of us have concluded based on the info that's come out (the warrants etc.) but hearing it all stated like that is just... what. a. waste. It does seen like his obsession with privacy, with not displaying fallability -- the stuff that in some ways made him such an intriguiging artist -- is also what killed him.



Yep. And what I speculated earlier is what I will continue to believe until proven otherwise. I’m just waiting for the day scientist and the medical community come up with a way to treat pain that doesn’t involve highly addictive drugs.
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Reply #169 posted 04/19/18 10:30am

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Anybody who judges Prince as a "drug user" (in it's common parlance) for medicating chronic pain is an idiot. Just sayin'.

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Reply #170 posted 04/19/18 10:31am

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He did use drugs.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #171 posted 04/19/18 10:32am

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sonshine said:

PennyPurple said:

Oh sheesh. I think this pretty much answered our questions. And none of us knew the real Prince. Drug free, clean living, was a lie.

He was another victim of the opiate crisis. It wasn't a lie. It wasn't deliberate on his part. People don't see taking pills as an illicit act the same way as street drugs. It was medication even if he eventually misused it. I refuse to be disappointed in him. [Edited 4/19/18 10:13am]

But it was street drugs. He was getting those pills illegally somehow to be using them. He didn't have any scripts written for him for pain pills.


P told Dr. S that he wasn't feeling well because of Tylenol.

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Reply #172 posted 04/19/18 10:32am

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PennyPurple said:

I really think that since some of P's family is in MN this week they need to have a press conference PRONTO. If there was another illness like cancer and such, they just need to come out and tell us. Otherwise it's just another Celeb that was on drugs. Looks like Lisa's comment that she heard he was using is true.


Also drills the fact into my head that the 1 closest to him, did nothing to help him. What a shame and what a waste.



If he had another illness you would think it would have been leaked with all the other medical leaked info today.

hmmm

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Reply #173 posted 04/19/18 10:33am

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but literally nothing that has been released points to some other illness like cancer (no mention of any sort of medical care that would align with cancer or a similar grave illness). Maybe they haven't come out with a statement about this because it isn't true.

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I think, at this point, whatever judgment people want to rain down is their own to deal with. No matter what, he's gone. If there are people who no longer find enjoyment in his music because perhaps he didn't live a life that fits exactly into their personal definition of acceptable -- well, that's their loss. Personally, if I could not enjoy music because I knew the creator had substance issues (or even -- gasp -- used drugs "recreationally"), there'd be virtually no music I could enjoy.

PennyPurple said:

I really think that since some of P's family is in MN this week they need to have a press conference PRONTO. If there was another illness like cancer and such, they just need to come out and tell us. Otherwise it's just another Celeb that was on drugs. Looks like Lisa's comment that she heard he was using is true.


Also drills the fact into my head that the 1 closest to him, did nothing to help him. What a shame and what a waste.

[Edited 4/19/18 10:23am]

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Reply #174 posted 04/19/18 10:33am

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FunkOnTheOne said:

Just to clarify, after 2 years on investigation the Police have come up....nothing.
Am I not right in saying that at least one person must know about the counterfeit drugs. Either Prince was hanging around on street corners and he was way too famous for that but even then the dealer knows he dealt to him. Or someone got the tablets for him again they would know. But the Police can't find the source. With the recent opioid crisis in the US it doesn't give you much hope.

During the news conference it was stated that they were not saying there wasn't someone around him helming to obtain the pills...they just couldn't provide hard evidence that would be proven beyond a reasonable doubt
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Reply #175 posted 04/19/18 10:34am

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A fact that leads to more questions to me is The pills prescribed by The dr for Kirk who is much larger than Prince on the 14th made Prince unresponsive on the plane...then a week later it happened again but was fatal as the pills were laced... sad
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Reply #176 posted 04/19/18 10:34am

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bashraka said:

Exactly. He was a musician that made records for fans to buy and played concerts for fans to enjoy. He didn't force anybody to believe what he believed. If you're disappointed, that's on you.

Not true. He made everyone believe he had no use for drugs and he lived clean. And I think a lot of us are disappointed.

[Edited 4/19/18 10:35am]

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Reply #177 posted 04/19/18 10:35am

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He must have felt so lonely
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Reply #178 posted 04/19/18 10:36am

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2freaky4church1 said:

He did use drugs.


Yup, to treat chronic pain. Those that don't know the difference between that and using to get high (which is what "drug user" usually suggests), are idiots.

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Reply #179 posted 04/19/18 10:37am

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2freaky4church1 said:

He did use drugs.

Yes, the facts are pointing that way. sad

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