FlyOnTheWall said:

PeteSilas said:

hell no, i can't see it, Prince had a type and the type he had was usually someone who didn't have any clout.

You mean, like Kim Bassinger?

ya, but how many others? sheena easton maybe, most of the women he dealt with were in an inferior position, they say people would lose pool games on purpose to him because he was so competitive and that he blocked ingrid chavez' album from coming out because he thought it was too good. He wasn't as secure and cool as we saw or think, susan rogers said he was a mess when he met liz taylor.

PeteSilas said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You mean, like Kim Bassinger?

ya, but how many others? sheena easton maybe, most of the women he dealt with were in an inferior position, they say people would lose pool games on purpose to him because he was so competitive and that he blocked ingrid chavez' album from coming out because he thought it was too good. He wasn't as secure and cool as we saw or think, susan rogers said he was a mess when he met liz taylor.

Okay. But, what does all that have to do with Salma Hayak?

FlyOnTheWall said:

PeteSilas said:

ya, but how many others? sheena easton maybe, most of the women he dealt with were in an inferior position, they say people would lose pool games on purpose to him because he was so competitive and that he blocked ingrid chavez' album from coming out because he thought it was too good. He wasn't as secure and cool as we saw or think, susan rogers said he was a mess when he met liz taylor.

Okay. But, what does all that have to do with Salma Hayak?

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cloveringold85 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Okay. But, what does all that have to do with Salma Hayak?

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also, he didn't get along with madonna because she was a strong woman with clout of her own, do you get where i'm going? I don't think he banged salma hayek although i could see why he'd want to.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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also, he didn't get along with madonna because she was a strong woman with clout of her own, do you get where i'm going? I don't think he banged salma hayek although i could see why he'd want to.

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Madonna was/is too much of a handful for any man, LOL

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

also, he didn't get along with madonna because she was a strong woman with clout of her own, do you get where i'm going? I don't think he banged salma hayek although i could see why he'd want to.

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Madonna was/is too much of a handful for any man, LOL

ya, she's gross anyway, they say they banged but she's nasty, mouthy, spoiled white girl, total culture clash there. some of us were brought up to be careful what you say sometimes, meaning you could get your ass beat, Prince was that way like a lot of us, it's always been hard being around young white people because they just run off at the mouth without any fear, so i could see why they'd clash.

TrivialPursuit said:

littlemissG said:

Beside fictional or historical women, all I can think of Valentina and Cynthia Rose in Starfish and Coffee.

He didn't sleep with Lisa, and he wrote a song w/ her name.

Incorrect.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Madonna was/is too much of a handful for any man, LOL

ya, she's gross anyway, they say they banged but she's nasty, mouthy, spoiled white girl, total culture clash there. some of us were brought up to be careful what you say sometimes, meaning you could get your ass beat, Prince was that way like a lot of us, it's always been hard being around young white people because they just run off at the mouth without any fear, so i could see why they'd clash.

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You don't say! LOL

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Seriously though, I agree; Madonna is nasty -- she's been around the block a few dozen times, at least!

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What's that old saying: "She rose to the top (fame) by wearing knee pads."

Militant said:

TrivialPursuit said:

He didn't sleep with Lisa, and he wrote a song w/ her name.

Incorrect.

Nice Doctor Who gif

Anyway, hope Lisa doesn't get mad at me (not sure if she's ever outright stated it publicly) but I had a conversation with her once about the outtake song once and what caused him to write it, and she confirmed during that conversation that they were indeed sleeping together at the time it was written.

So, there ya have it.

Also, this isn't really common knowledge but Wendy slept with Prince too.

Militant said:

Nice Doctor Who gif

Anyway, hope Lisa doesn't get mad at me (not sure if she's ever outright stated it publicly) but I had a conversation with her once about the outtake song once and what caused him to write it, and she confirmed during that conversation that they were indeed sleeping together at the time it was written.

So, there ya have it.

Also, this isn't really common knowledge but Wendy slept with Prince too.

right on, wendy the bisexual, get down wendy.

Militant said:

Nice Doctor Who gif

Anyway, hope Lisa doesn't get mad at me (not sure if she's ever outright stated it publicly) but I had a conversation with her once about the outtake song once and what caused him to write it, and she confirmed during that conversation that they were indeed sleeping together at the time it was written.

So, there ya have it.

Also, this isn't really common knowledge but Wendy slept with Prince too.

I'm beginning to think I might be the only person in general that Prince never directly fucked. LOL

TrivialPursuit said:

Militant said:

Nice Doctor Who gif

Anyway, hope Lisa doesn't get mad at me (not sure if she's ever outright stated it publicly) but I had a conversation with her once about the outtake song once and what caused him to write it, and she confirmed during that conversation that they were indeed sleeping together at the time it was written.

So, there ya have it.

Also, this isn't really common knowledge but Wendy slept with Prince too.

I'm beginning to think I might be the only person in general that Prince never directly fucked. LOL

TrivialPursuit said:

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

ya, she's gross anyway, they say they banged but she's nasty, mouthy, spoiled white girl, total culture clash there. some of us were brought up to be careful what you say sometimes, meaning you could get your ass beat, Prince was that way like a lot of us, it's always been hard being around young white people because they just run off at the mouth without any fear, so i could see why they'd clash.

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You don't say! LOL

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Seriously though, I agree; Madonna is nasty -- she's been around the block a few dozen times, at least!

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What's that old saying: "She rose to the top (fame) by wearing knee pads."

I don't think she did, that is a perception because she is a female. No one says Prince was nasty with the amount of women he had sex with with.
Plus people in the arts are expected to have a lot of sex lol

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Madonna was/is too much of a handful for any man, LOL

ya, she's gross anyway, they say they banged but she's nasty, mouthy, spoiled white girl, total culture clash there. some of us were brought up to be careful what you say sometimes, meaning you could get your ass beat, Prince was that way like a lot of us, it's always been hard being around young white people because they just run off at the mouth without any fear, so i could see why they'd clash.

She sure wasn't spoiled, and definately not priviledged.

I saw an MTV peice on her coming up in NYC and the gutter places she had to live in, also being raped. She has the fire of an Italian woman.

That whole 'white people' thing eek dude

Militant said:

Nice Doctor Who gif

Anyway, hope Lisa doesn't get mad at me (not sure if she's ever outright stated it publicly) but I had a conversation with her once about the outtake song once and what caused him to write it, and she confirmed during that conversation that they were indeed sleeping together at the time it was written.

So, there ya have it.

Also, this isn't really common knowledge but Wendy slept with Prince too.

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I can't say I'm surprised by that!!

dodger said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I'm beginning to think I might be the only person in general that Prince never directly fucked. LOL

He’d shag a barbers floor

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OldFriends4Sale said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You don't say! LOL

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Seriously though, I agree; Madonna is nasty -- she's been around the block a few dozen times, at least!

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What's that old saying: "She rose to the top (fame) by wearing knee pads."

I don't think she did, that is a perception because she is a female. No one says Prince was nasty with the amount of women he had sex with with.
Plus people in the arts are expected to have a lot of sex lol

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I'm pretty sure Madonna was very promiscuous during her rise to fame; it's pretty standard practice in the music industry, and Hollywood celebrities/stars.

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Yea, Prince had a lot of sex with a lot of women, I guess he gets a free pass because he was a Rock God and a sexxy MF!

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Now, if you say the same thing about Gene Simmons......I would be like, Ewww...GROSS!!

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I remember when Arsenio was interviewing Sheena Easton and he made some remark about Prince having been around the block a few times, LOL

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PeteSilas said:

ya, she's gross anyway, they say they banged but she's nasty, mouthy, spoiled white girl, total culture clash there. some of us were brought up to be careful what you say sometimes, meaning you could get your ass beat, Prince was that way like a lot of us, it's always been hard being around young white people because they just run off at the mouth without any fear, so i could see why they'd clash.

She sure wasn't spoiled, and definately not priviledged.

I saw an MTV peice on her coming up in NYC and the gutter places she had to live in, also being raped. She has the fire of an Italian woman.

That whole 'white people' thing eek dude

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I agree; Madonna was not spoiled. She worked her ass off for everything!! Both her and Prince earned their keep, the old-fashioned way -- by hard work and determination!!

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Someone here posted a story about the time Madonna was talking to Prince and she was living in some shithole and Prince's "When Doves Cry" was a hit, and she was really getting depressed about her life.

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Yes, she is a fiesty Italian woman!!

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I also do not get the "white people" comment.

cloveringold85 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think she did, that is a perception because she is a female. No one says Prince was nasty with the amount of women he had sex with with.
Plus people in the arts are expected to have a lot of sex lol

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I'm pretty sure Madonna was very promiscuous during her rise to fame; it's pretty standard practice in the music industry, and Hollywood celebrities/stars.

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Yea, Prince had a lot of sex with a lot of women, I guess he gets a free pass because he was a Rock God and a sexxy MF!

.

Now, if you say the same thing about Gene Simmons......I would be like, Ewww...GROSS!!

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I remember when Arsenio was interviewing Sheena Easton and he made some remark about Prince having been around the block a few times, LOL

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[Edited 3/11/18 12:36pm]

Madonna was pretty much unscathed about the whole sexuality thing...until she came out with the SEX book and then there was a backlash... BTW she's supposed to be working on a new album; hope she makes it a good one this time...

How da you know who i went to bed with?

cloveringold85 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She sure wasn't spoiled, and definately not priviledged.

I saw an MTV peice on her coming up in NYC and the gutter places she had to live in, also being raped. She has the fire of an Italian woman.

That whole 'white people' thing eek dude

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I agree; Madonna was not spoiled. She worked her ass off for everything!! Both her and Prince earned their keep, the old-fashioned way -- by hard work and determination!!

.

Someone here posted a story about the time Madonna was talking to Prince and she was living in some shithole and Prince's "When Doves Cry" was a hit, and she was really getting depressed about her life.

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Yes, she is a fiesty Italian woman!!

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I also do not get the "white people" comment.

white people mouth off more, it's just a culture thing and she was entitled, not to take away whatever harassement/rape she underwent, i know about all that. Prince and Michael never said whatever came to their heads in public settings, they say prince could be pretty "ghetto" (in the words of Mark Cardenas) but he was more often pretty conservative from what i gather. Madonna was still a white woman in america who could do a lot of things Prince would never get away with, here in seattle, she pushed some DJ on his ass because he got in her way when she was running, but for me, it's a sensibility thing. I've been around a lot of white people and not all of them but many of them are to carefree with what they say because they don't think they'll get their asses whipped. i'll tell you a story, i knew a guy who works in a showplace here where a lot of musical artists come through, i asked him what it was like he told me "you'd never believe it but the hip hop artists and the rappers are way easier to deal with than the rockers" I told him i did believe it. now, that's not all white people of course and it wasn't even white people going back a couple generations but it's a lot of them now, it's a reason i don't like being around white musicians which is a hard thing being in a white city like seattle, a lot of spoiled white guys thinking they should be stars running around this city, i can't deal with em.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree; Madonna was not spoiled. She worked her ass off for everything!! Both her and Prince earned their keep, the old-fashioned way -- by hard work and determination!!

.

Someone here posted a story about the time Madonna was talking to Prince and she was living in some shithole and Prince's "When Doves Cry" was a hit, and she was really getting depressed about her life.

.

Yes, she is a fiesty Italian woman!!

.

I also do not get the "white people" comment.

white people mouth off more, it's just a culture thing and she was entitled, not to take away whatever harassement/rape she underwent, i know about all that. Prince and Michael never said whatever came to their heads in public settings, they say prince could be pretty "ghetto" (in the words of Mark Cardenas) but he was more often pretty conservative from what i gather. Madonna was still a white woman in america who could do a lot of things Prince would never get away with, here in seattle, she pushed some DJ on his ass because he got in her way when she was running, but for me, it's a sensibility thing. I've been around a lot of white people and not all of them but many of them are to carefree with what they say because they don't think they'll get their asses whipped. i'll tell you a story, i knew a guy who works in a showplace here where a lot of musical artists come through, i asked him what it was like he told me "you'd never believe it but the hip hop artists and the rappers are way easier to deal with than the rockers" I told him i did believe it. now, that's not all white people of course and it wasn't even white people going back a couple generations but it's a lot of them now, it's a reason i don't like being around white musicians which is a hard thing being in a white city like seattle, a lot of spoiled white guys thinking they should be stars running around this city, i can't deal with em.

That's "par for the course," unfortunately... But not all are like that.

purplethunder3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

white people mouth off more, it's just a culture thing and she was entitled, not to take away whatever harassement/rape she underwent, i know about all that. Prince and Michael never said whatever came to their heads in public settings, they say prince could be pretty "ghetto" (in the words of Mark Cardenas) but he was more often pretty conservative from what i gather. Madonna was still a white woman in america who could do a lot of things Prince would never get away with, here in seattle, she pushed some DJ on his ass because he got in her way when she was running, but for me, it's a sensibility thing. I've been around a lot of white people and not all of them but many of them are to carefree with what they say because they don't think they'll get their asses whipped. i'll tell you a story, i knew a guy who works in a showplace here where a lot of musical artists come through, i asked him what it was like he told me "you'd never believe it but the hip hop artists and the rappers are way easier to deal with than the rockers" I told him i did believe it. now, that's not all white people of course and it wasn't even white people going back a couple generations but it's a lot of them now, it's a reason i don't like being around white musicians which is a hard thing being in a white city like seattle, a lot of spoiled white guys thinking they should be stars running around this city, i can't deal with em.

That's "par for the course," unfortunately... But not all are like that.

they all think they should be getting paid, they all complain about how they are treated, but i always say that no one promised you nothing when you picked up an instrument and in fact, if you were like me, you were told that it would get you nowhere.

RJOrion said:

cloveringold85 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think she did, that is a perception because she is a female. No one says Prince was nasty with the amount of women he had sex with with.
Plus people in the arts are expected to have a lot of sex lol

.

I'm pretty sure Madonna was very promiscuous during her rise to fame; it's pretty standard practice in the music industry, and Hollywood celebrities/stars.

.

Yea, Prince had a lot of sex with a lot of women, I guess he gets a free pass because he was a Rock God and a sexxy MF!

.

Now, if you say the same thing about Gene Simmons......I would be like, Ewww...GROSS!!

.

I remember when Arsenio was interviewing Sheena Easton and he made some remark about Prince having been around the block a few times, LOL

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I meant sleeping to the top and promiscuous are two different things. I doubt 'sleeping to the top' is why she is still and continued to be very succssful. I'm just saying, I don't think that would ever be said about any man. But there is a different intent and judgement when a man has a lot of sex vs a woman, Arsenio was just jealous lol.

Yes I said that too lol the bolded piece...

McD said:

RJOrion said:

P didnt smash Vicki Vale...Bruce Wayne did...P smashed Kim Basinger..song aint called "Kimberly Waiting"

The song wasn’t written about Kim or Vicki... it was Anna Fantastic. Who he was banging. So it’s outta here.

or not banging...hence 'still I keep Vickie Waiting' lol

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree; Madonna was not spoiled. She worked her ass off for everything!! Both her and Prince earned their keep, the old-fashioned way -- by hard work and determination!!

.

Someone here posted a story about the time Madonna was talking to Prince and she was living in some shithole and Prince's "When Doves Cry" was a hit, and she was really getting depressed about her life.

.

Yes, she is a fiesty Italian woman!!

.

I also do not get the "white people" comment.

white people mouth off more, it's just a culture thing and she was entitled, not to take away whatever harassement/rape she underwent, i know about all that. Prince and Michael never said whatever came to their heads in public settings, they say prince could be pretty "ghetto" (in the words of Mark Cardenas) but he was more often pretty conservative from what i gather. Madonna was still a white woman in america who could do a lot of things Prince would never get away with, here in seattle, she pushed some DJ on his ass because he got in her way when she was running, but for me, it's a sensibility thing. I've been around a lot of white people and not all of them but many of them are to carefree with what they say because they don't think they'll get their asses whipped. i'll tell you a story, i knew a guy who works in a showplace here where a lot of musical artists come through, i asked him what it was like he told me "you'd never believe it but the hip hop artists and the rappers are way easier to deal with than the rockers" I told him i did believe it. now, that's not all white people of course and it wasn't even white people going back a couple generations but it's a lot of them now, it's a reason i don't like being around white musicians which is a hard thing being in a white city like seattle, a lot of spoiled white guys thinking they should be stars running around this city, i can't deal with em.

That isn't true man, that is so not true.

First of all, women talk much more than men.

Let's leave off from these generalized 'racial' comments