MattyJam said:

If this had been released as a one disc album, it'd probably be my all time favorite Prince album: 1. Emancipation 2. New World 3. Face Down 4. Somebody's Somebody 5. Courtin Time 6. Joint 2 Joint 7. Soul Sanctuary 8. Curious Child 9. Dreamin About U 10. Sleep Around 11. The Human Body 12. In This Bed Scream 13. The Holy River 14. The Love We Make [Edited 1/19/18 22:54pm]

I'll refer back to my previous post on this subject, I would be very disapointed with this disc . But the wonderful thing is that you can make this disc and everybody here can make their disc. In this respect it's one if his greatest albums, everyone can get a 12 track disc with no filler.

TheEnglishGent said:

MattyJam said:

If this had been released as a one disc album, it'd probably be my all time favorite Prince album: 1. Emancipation 2. New World 3. Face Down 4. Somebody's Somebody 5. Courtin Time 6. Joint 2 Joint 7. Soul Sanctuary 8. Curious Child 9. Dreamin About U 10. Sleep Around 11. The Human Body 12. In This Bed Scream 13. The Holy River 14. The Love We Make [Edited 1/19/18 22:54pm]

I'll refer back to my previous post on this subject, I would be very disapointed with this disc . But the wonderful thing is that you can make this disc and everybody here can make their disc. In this respect it's one if his greatest albums, everyone can get a 12 track disc with no filler.

^^ Oh, come on! You know that's the best single disc Emancipation configuration you've ever seen.

it wouldn't end up on my 1 disc emancipation, if i were to make one,
but whenever the org shits on "we gets up" i just put it on and play it
LOUD. it's just a fun track.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Prince's Emancipation does not need defending.

Short. Concise. Truthful.

42Kristen said:

I did not get the whole Emancipation. I know what it stood. Free yourself from someone's bondage. I always thiught it might that not only Prince was trying to free himself under Warner Brothers graps. But also away from Mayte Garcia. I faintly recall that this album was released on Nov. 12, 1996. This is Mayte birthday. It rose my suspicions on what hidden messages that Prince had in his music.

why would he be trying to free himself from Mayte Garcia, when she inspired a lot of the songs, the recordings took place during his courting/marriage to her?

Yeah I think you are an (anti-Mayte) person? and creating some serious fiction there.

Darshy said:

Emancipation is an outstanding album. If someone like R Kelly or D'Angelo had released something similar, no doubt many here would have said that this is the album Prince should have released!

D'Angelo? someone who copied Prince?

naw to both of those guys, R Kelly for sure was good at what he did, but not on the same level of Prince's best work.

Even Prince did very little performing from this 3 disc set, it just wasn't exciting.

Emancipation is just fine as it is. And hearing some of the stuff that didn't make the cut, I would have been happy with the 50 track album he orginally talked about.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Darshy said:

Emancipation is an outstanding album. If someone like R Kelly or D'Angelo had released something similar, no doubt many here would have said that this is the album Prince should have released!

D'Angelo? someone who copied Prince?

naw to both of those guys, R Kelly for sure was good at what he did, but not on the same level of Prince's best work.

Even Prince did very little performing from this 3 disc set, it just wasn't exciting.

I think that had more to do with his personal circumstances at that time than his belief in the music.

It must've been hard going out there promoting and performing songs from Emancipation, an album so full of hope and joy for his impending fatherhood, given all that went down.

IstenSzek said:

y'all a bunch of lightweights. imo emancipation just needs an extra disc


disc 4:


01. 20/20

02. Slave 2 The System
03. Feel Good
04. Love (Never Has 2 Say Goodbye)
05. Stone
06. Playtime
07. She Gave Her Angels
08. Van Gogh
09. Journey 2 The Center Of Ur Heart
10. Eye Am The DJ
11. (Excuse Me Is This) Goodbye


bitch, i could even do with a 5th and a 6th disc.

Disc 4 is Newpower Soul. Those outtakes are disc 5.

TrivialPursuit said:

214 said:

IstenSzek said:

it wouldn't end up on my 1 disc emancipation, if i were to make one,
but whenever the org shits on "we gets up" i just put it on and play it
LOUD. it's just a fun track.

Confession--every time people run Arms of Orion down, I play it. Not loud, and I don't dance--but I enjoy every second of it. Like what you like. I'm leaving the door open on my eventually liking it. I don't expect it to happen, but it might.

databank said:

TrivialPursuit said:

OK? Not everything I said was meant to chronological.

"Oddly, Prince stepped away from that plastic sound for subsequent The Rainbow Children, but peeked in on it with NewPowerSoul, yet stepped away again with Musicology..." That part sounded pretty chronological to me.

I can see where some would think of it that way, I but I was pulling as they came to my brain. That simple.

databank said:

TrivialPursuit said:

OK? Not everything I said was meant to chronological.

"Oddly, Prince stepped away from that plastic sound for subsequent The Rainbow Children, but peeked in on it with NewPowerSoul, yet stepped away again with Musicology..." That part sounded pretty chronological to me. [Edited 1/22/18 10:14am]

Except it seems to say that NPS came in between The Rainbow Children and Musicology? I mean, there's several years of productivity (The Truth, NPS, and all those NPGMC tracks) before The Rainbow Children. Once he left that sound, he didn't really go "back to it" for anything. He stayed with it for awhile, including NPS. (TrivialPursuit--I get that you weren't really worrying about the chronology that much--but he really didn't leave the sound behind quickly).

[Edited 1/22/18 12:10pm]

databank said:

214 said:

WTF did you say? Burn this witch, heresy.

Some people speak first, think later (if at all)

Do you always take everything to heart?

MattyJam said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I'll refer back to my previous post on this subject, I would be very disapointed with this disc . But the wonderful thing is that you can make this disc and everybody here can make their disc. In this respect it's one if his greatest albums, everyone can get a 12 track disc with no filler.

^^ Oh, come on! You know that's the best single disc Emancipation configuration you've ever seen.

Hmmm, it might be the best one I've seen that isn't mine.

TrivialPursuit said:

MattyJam said:

AhPook said:

IstenSzek said:

y'all a bunch of lightweights. imo emancipation just needs an extra disc


disc 4:


01. 20/20

02. Slave 2 The System
03. Feel Good
04. Love (Never Has 2 Say Goodbye)
05. Stone
06. Playtime
07. She Gave Her Angels
08. Van Gogh
09. Journey 2 The Center Of Ur Heart
10. Eye Am The DJ
11. (Excuse Me Is This) Goodbye


bitch, i could even do with a 5th and a 6th disc.

Disc 4 is Newpower Soul. Those outtakes are disc 5.

you know what, that actually makes a whole lot of sense

EddieC said:

IstenSzek said:

it wouldn't end up on my 1 disc emancipation, if i were to make one,
but whenever the org shits on "we gets up" i just put it on and play it
LOUD. it's just a fun track.

Confession--every time people run Arms of Orion down, I play it. Not loud, and I don't dance--but I enjoy every second of it. Like what you like. I'm leaving the door open on my eventually liking it. I don't expect it to happen, but it might.

see, i knew i wasn't the only one who was doing something like that

214 said:

TheFman said:

Still puzzled how P thought this album could sprout singles a whole year.
There isn't even 1 single on it. The Holy River is the worst song he ever did.

WTF did you say? Burn this witch, heresy.

Here, take my matchbox.

MattyJam said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I'll refer back to my previous post on this subject, I would be very disapointed with this disc . But the wonderful thing is that you can make this disc and everybody here can make their disc. In this respect it's one if his greatest albums, everyone can get a 12 track disc with no filler.

^^ Oh, come on! You know that's the best single disc Emancipation configuration you've ever seen.

Without "Big White Mansion", "Style" and "My Computer", it clearly ain't.

luvsexy4all said:

it had a different sound ..like all his albums..deal with it

I beg to differ.
It sounded like any other R&B album out at that time.
Hence my dislike for it.

I've always liked Emancipation, and quite a bit of it I love.

It does seem a bit bloated, but I'd say the same thing for anybody's 2-disc or 3-disc album.

callimnate said:

luvsexy4all said:

it had a different sound ..like all his albums..deal with it

I beg to differ.
It sounded like any other R&B album out at that time.
Hence my dislike for it.

They mean it has a different sound to his other albums. But I'm with you on it sounding generic of the time. The 'edgy' tracks on this album especially. Embarrassingly so. Prince was still playing catchup by this point (as he had been since Graffitti Bridge with New Power Generation).

He basically accepted himself, in one sense, after The Rainbow Children and the One Night Alone tour, and stopped trying to emulate the times and stop rapping and being 'gangsta' (although there was a fair bit of Pharrel emulation on Musicology etc).

.

tbokris said:

MattyJam said:

tbokris said:

They mean it has a different sound to his other albums. But I'm with you on it sounding generic of the time. The 'edgy' tracks on this album especially. Embarrassingly so. Prince was still playing catchup by this point (as he had been since Graffitti Bridge with New Power Generation).

He basically accepted himself, in one sense, after The Rainbow Children and the One Night Alone tour, and stopped trying to emulate the times and stop rapping and being 'gangsta' (although there was a fair bit of Pharrel emulation on Musicology etc).

.

I only really think Mr Happy and Da Da Da are guilty of that on Emancipation. And Right Back Here In My Arms is very New Jack Swing, which was outdated by 1996.

I'm sure there's more than that (don't have the album with me right now...) Face Down?

True that New Jack Swing was outdated by then though...

MattyJam said:

tbokris said:

They mean it has a different sound to his other albums. But I'm with you on it sounding generic of the time. The 'edgy' tracks on this album especially. Embarrassingly so. Prince was still playing catchup by this point (as he had been since Graffitti Bridge with New Power Generation).

He basically accepted himself, in one sense, after The Rainbow Children and the One Night Alone tour, and stopped trying to emulate the times and stop rapping and being 'gangsta' (although there was a fair bit of Pharrel emulation on Musicology etc).

.

I only really think Mr Happy and Da Da Da are guilty of that on Emancipation. And Right Back Here In My Arms is very New Jack Swing, which was outdated by 1996.

The absolute worst on Emancipation IMO. I was listening to the album the other day and that track came on and it took me by surprise. I'd completely wiped it from my mind and had forgotten the horrors.

tbokris said: