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Reply #120 posted 09/23/17 7:53pm

PeteSilas

any way you cut it, losing someone you love and care about, even someone as difficult and completely unaware of me as prince was is hard. I lost a close friend from my tribe and it's been killing me all week, the sense of loss, so much knowledge and wisdom right out the window, and in my case, lots and lots of guilt as we had a falling out. Life, all things considered, just make you wonder, what the fuck is it all about?

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Reply #121 posted 09/23/17 7:54pm

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PeteSilas said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




muleFunk said:




People I have come to the conclusion that Prince was poisoned for months prior to his death and that he was either taking something or given something surreptitously that WAS NOT what he or people around him thought it was.



The smoking gun is the Fentanyl. It wasn't in his system prior to April 21.



The pills found even under Johnson's name were not a gianormous amount like what the media portrayed it to be and they were all percocet until you get to the two over the counter bottles with the counterfeit pills.



Many of his family and associates have reached out and asked me about this and agree.



MuleFunk, are you an Abigail believer?


Where did you get facts that there was no Fentanyl in Ps system prior to 4/21/16?



I heard the coroner say he wasn't a longtime fentanyl user, for whatever that's worth.


The ME said no they did not fine that he was user of Fentenyl. None was in his system from prior test by Dr. S the day before. All was in his system the night before.
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Reply #122 posted 09/23/17 7:56pm

PeteSilas

laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

I heard the coroner say he wasn't a longtime fentanyl user, for whatever that's worth.

The ME said no they did not fine that he was user of Fentenyl. None was in his system from prior test by Dr. S the day before. All was in his system the night before.

that's sounds about right, i couldn't remember the exact words, thanks laura.

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Reply #123 posted 09/23/17 8:08pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

I heard the coroner say he wasn't a longtime fentanyl user, for whatever that's worth.

The ME said no they did not fine that he was user of Fentenyl. None was in his system from prior test by Dr. S the day before. All was in his system the night before.

There is so much information out there Laura.

Some of which I missed.

Do you have a link?

I am just trying to reboot.

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Reply #124 posted 09/23/17 8:21pm

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

If he wasn't addicted, he wouldn't have been buying them off the street.

You have way of knowing that. You do not even know he brought these off the street as we have not even seen proof of that. We have dozens of people who looked in his face and thousands who saw him perform who saying this guy was not strung out. I am sorry something caused things to sprial out of control the last two weeks of his life and do not believe it is all related to addiction. Realize the tabloids would pay big dollars just to get a few people to go on record and say he was high out of his mind. Yet we have not one person as piped up. You realize that estates can not sue for defamation. So were are the drug stories? Does anyone fine it strange that someone can be abusing drugs supposedly for years and not one associate is running their mouth about now?

Have you forgotten his second wife, YEARS AGO, comparing Prince to Charlie Sheen at the time when Sheen was out of his mind on drugs 24/7? Don't you think she would have had a front row seat? She knew.

When it comes to enablers, she was ground zero...she ran to another brother and let Prince spiral down.AND, she got some bucks even though she was running around with Eric...because HER KNOWLEDGE/PROOF of Prince's drug use was her ace in the hole.

If she had a soul, she would have blown the story sky high, risked getting fewer bucks, to give him and those who really loved him a shot at saving his life.

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Reply #125 posted 09/23/17 8:35pm

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PeteSilas said:

any way you cut it, losing someone you love and care about, even someone as difficult and completely unaware of me as prince was is hard. I lost a close friend from my tribe and it's been killing me all week, the sense of loss, so much knowledge and wisdom right out the window, and in my case, lots and lots of guilt as we had a falling out. Life, all things considered, just make you wonder, what the fuck is it all about?

Pete, I know I am not alone here in sharing my condolances at your loss and sending you peaceful and comforting vibes.

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Reply #126 posted 09/23/17 8:38pm

80tomato

Bodhi , that sounds right to me...she basically blackmailed him...watch out Eric!!!~! lol

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Reply #127 posted 09/23/17 8:42pm

PeteSilas

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: You have way of knowing that. You do not even know he brought these off the street as we have not even seen proof of that. We have dozens of people who looked in his face and thousands who saw him perform who saying this guy was not strung out. I am sorry something caused things to sprial out of control the last two weeks of his life and do not believe it is all related to addiction. Realize the tabloids would pay big dollars just to get a few people to go on record and say he was high out of his mind. Yet we have not one person as piped up. You realize that estates can not sue for defamation. So were are the drug stories? Does anyone fine it strange that someone can be abusing drugs supposedly for years and not one associate is running their mouth about now?

Have you forgotten his second wife, YEARS AGO, comparing Prince to Charlie Sheen at the time when Sheen was out of his mind on drugs 24/7? Don't you think she would have had a front row seat? She knew.

When it comes to enablers, she was ground zero...she ran to another brother and let Prince spiral down.AND, she got some bucks even though she was running around with Eric...because HER KNOWLEDGE/PROOF of Prince's drug use was her ace in the hole.

If she had a soul, she would have blown the story sky high, risked getting fewer bucks, to give him and those who really loved him a shot at saving his life.

Maybe, I didnt know quite how to read that at the time, was she saying he had a drug probelm? a mental problem? Cuz Charlie was a mess. Also, since when was prince manic, wild, open, or even honest in an interview session? Charlie wore his heart on his sleeve, Prince hid alll his cards all the time unless he wanted to show something. Just a strange statement. I remember at the time, recalling a quote from Wendy from a book where she said that when they worked together that he had a "problem" and didn't say much more about it other than that it wouldn't get better as he got older. I thought at that time that she may have referred to prince being Manic Depressive which I always thought was a good possibility given his freakish work habits.

anyway, if whatsherface had done that, it might have helped but it certainly would have made her enemies with the fans. we know this because shortly before elvis died, 3 of his men wrote an infamous memoir about his drug use and no one ever forgave them. 2 of those men just died recently and i don't think the fans ever really forgave them. I'm sure they felt some guilt too.

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Reply #128 posted 09/23/17 8:44pm

PeteSilas

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PeteSilas said:

any way you cut it, losing someone you love and care about, even someone as difficult and completely unaware of me as prince was is hard. I lost a close friend from my tribe and it's been killing me all week, the sense of loss, so much knowledge and wisdom right out the window, and in my case, lots and lots of guilt as we had a falling out. Life, all things considered, just make you wonder, what the fuck is it all about?

Pete, I know I am not alone here in sharing my condolances at your loss and sending you peaceful and comforting vibes.

thank you Bodhi.

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Reply #129 posted 09/23/17 8:47pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:


If he wasn't addicted, he wouldn't have been buying them off the street.



You have way of knowing that. You do not even know he brought these off the street as we have not even seen proof of that. We have dozens of people who looked in his face and thousands who saw him perform who saying this guy was not strung out. I am sorry something caused things to sprial out of control the last two weeks of his life and do not believe it is all related to addiction. Realize the tabloids would pay big dollars just to get a few people to go on record and say he was high out of his mind. Yet we have not one person as piped up. You realize that estates can not sue for defamation. So were are the drug stories? Does anyone fine it strange that someone can be abusing drugs supposedly for years and not one associate is running their mouth about now?

Have you forgotten his second wife, YEARS AGO, comparing Prince to Charlie Sheen at the time when Sheen was out of his mind on drugs 24/7? Don't you think she would have had a front row seat? She knew.



When it comes to enablers, she was ground zero...she ran to another brother and let Prince spiral down.AND, she got some bucks even though she was running around with Eric...because HER KNOWLEDGE/PROOF of Prince's drug use was her ace in the hole.



If she had a soul, she would have blown the story sky high, risked getting fewer bucks, to give him and those who really loved him a shot at saving his life.


If his second wife wanted to use drug use as leverage she would have mentioned it in the divorce papers. It is not in the divorce papers and she could have leaked info to the media to put the screws to him. She did nothing of the sort. She received a few measly million when she could have received half of what he earned while they were married did you forget about the Musicoly tour? Did you read the divorce docs she was greedy as hell but she got peanuts.
She put that crap on her Facebook after they were divorced and according to Dr. Funkenberry Prince stopped speaking to this women so how would she have known what he doing as we have no stories of Prince going on any public rants. The AEG live people says he was a dream to work with. No one wants to work with anyone exhibiting Charlie Sheen like behavior because you saw what happened to Charlie' s carreer.
The drug lifestyle and stories are just not popping up and I am not sure why you would take the word of a women who changed religion to marry her celebrity crush, sleep with a married man, and dropped that religion and man as soon as it was convinent. She once said in a interview the best thing about the marriage was that she got a business out it. I do not take that cold bitch seriously.
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Reply #130 posted 09/23/17 9:11pm

purplerabbitho
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Good point. If Manuela really wanted more money she would have used his drug addiction as blackmail.. I think she was just talking about general enablers and maybe some suspicions of him popping pills that showed up in articles online around 2009.

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Have you forgotten his second wife, YEARS AGO, comparing Prince to Charlie Sheen at the time when Sheen was out of his mind on drugs 24/7? Don't you think she would have had a front row seat? She knew.

When it comes to enablers, she was ground zero...she ran to another brother and let Prince spiral down.AND, she got some bucks even though she was running around with Eric...because HER KNOWLEDGE/PROOF of Prince's drug use was her ace in the hole.

If she had a soul, she would have blown the story sky high, risked getting fewer bucks, to give him and those who really loved him a shot at saving his life.

If his second wife wanted to use drug use as leverage she would have mentioned it in the divorce papers. It is not in the divorce papers and she could have leaked info to the media to put the screws to him. She did nothing of the sort. She received a few measly million when she could have received half of what he earned while they were married did you forget about the Musicoly tour? Did you read the divorce docs she was greedy as hell but she got peanuts. She put that crap on her Facebook after they were divorced and according to Dr. Funkenberry Prince stopped speaking to this women so how would she have known what he doing as we have no stories of Prince going on any public rants. The AEG live people says he was a dream to work with. No one wants to work with anyone exhibiting Charlie Sheen like behavior because you saw what happened to Charlie' s carreer. The drug lifestyle and stories are just not popping up and I am not sure why you would take the word of a women who changed religion to marry her celebrity crush, sleep with a married man, and dropped that religion and man as soon as it was convinent. She once said in a interview the best thing about the marriage was that she got a business out it. I do not take that cold bitch seriously.

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Reply #131 posted 09/23/17 9:15pm

PeteSilas

or maybe she had informants telling her what was happening, wasn't that about the time when that story of the insider came out who said he was popping pills like candy?

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Reply #132 posted 09/23/17 9:18pm

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He was probably taking some pain pills while she was around. but I doubt it was out of hand because it would have popped up in the divorce papers and she could have used it to get more money. As for what Wendy said, the fact that she implied it would get worse when he GOT OLDER, makes it seem like a mental/emotional issue rather than an addiction. I once started a thread about P possibly having bipolar disorder (otherwise known as manic depression). I still think its possible..

PeteSilas said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Have you forgotten his second wife, YEARS AGO, comparing Prince to Charlie Sheen at the time when Sheen was out of his mind on drugs 24/7? Don't you think she would have had a front row seat? She knew.

When it comes to enablers, she was ground zero...she ran to another brother and let Prince spiral down.AND, she got some bucks even though she was running around with Eric...because HER KNOWLEDGE/PROOF of Prince's drug use was her ace in the hole.

If she had a soul, she would have blown the story sky high, risked getting fewer bucks, to give him and those who really loved him a shot at saving his life.

Maybe, I didnt know quite how to read that at the time, was she saying he had a drug probelm? a mental problem? Cuz Charlie was a mess. Also, since when was prince manic, wild, open, or even honest in an interview session? Charlie wore his heart on his sleeve, Prince hid alll his cards all the time unless he wanted to show something. Just a strange statement. I remember at the time, recalling a quote from Wendy from a book where she said that when they worked together that he had a "problem" and didn't say much more about it other than that it wouldn't get better as he got older. I thought at that time that she may have referred to prince being Manic Depressive which I always thought was a good possibility given his freakish work habits.

anyway, if whatsherface had done that, it might have helped but it certainly would have made her enemies with the fans. we know this because shortly before elvis died, 3 of his men wrote an infamous memoir about his drug use and no one ever forgave them. 2 of those men just died recently and i don't think the fans ever really forgave them. I'm sure they felt some guilt too.

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Reply #133 posted 09/24/17 1:38am

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laurarichardson said:



sonshine said:


laurarichardson said:
--Maybe he did what doctors advised him to do. You need to do a little more research into the fact that pain meds have been over prescribed for patients for years. Who needs a big bottle of Percocet for a broken arm? Research before you speak.

He was obviously self-medicating. It cost him his life. What his doctors may or may not have advised him IN THE PAST doesnt change the fact that he was self-medicating in the end.

What would we do if we did not have you to tell us the obvious? Try looking beyond the stituation to what actually caused it all in the first place. I believe we are discussing chronic pain.



I have asked this question a thousand times. What would you do if you were in pain and these drugs are so powerful that you became addicted to them and found unfortunatly that despite the risk you actually need to make it day to day?




Do not be so quick to judge. We are all getting older and could be on this road someday.



Who is judging? Militant stated the obvious as you put it, and you jumped all over it. I was merely pointing out that Militant's statement was correct. It's a simple fact. No more, no less. Stop turning everything into more than it is. What would we do without you blowing everything out of proportion and making it something its not? And most importantly reminding us all how superior YOUR opinions are to any of those us mere mortals dare to suggest. Oh, the horror.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #134 posted 09/24/17 3:46am

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muleFunk said:

I don't believe that he committed suicide and I don't believe he faked his own death.

I have a hard enough time trying to wrap my head around the fact that he was intentionally killed.

However after reaching out to my friends in the medical profession and to my classmates in law enforcement the levels found in his system are 200 times higher than normal Fentanyl OD deaths.

That's why the DEA went into PP. They had never seen those levels before and wanted to know where they came from.

Then I started reseaching the covert use of Fentanyl and discovered it was used in political assassinations for at least 50 years. Before the medicinal use of Fentanyl became widespread people who were assassinated by this method was assumed to have died via heart failure.


I was 60-65% sure it was suicide before it was revealed how much fentanyl was found in his bloodstream. Now I'm 80% sure he chose to go. Occam's Razor again, I'm afraid. Suicide far far more likely than homicide, which is closer to 0%.



The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #135 posted 09/24/17 4:31am

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PeteSilas said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

MuleFunk, are you an Abigail believer?

Where did you get facts that there was no Fentanyl in Ps system prior to 4/21/16?

I heard the coroner say he wasn't a longtime fentanyl user, for whatever that's worth.

No I am not an Abigail believer and I don't think I know who that is.

I have been following this since day one. I know who leaked information to TMZ and I know who contacted Padden from CNN.

See what most of you know from this story is what came from CNN and the Star Tribune.

They at first said he died from Percocet overdose until the Fentanyl appeared. This started the abuse storyline which is simply not true. Was he using pain medication ??? Yes , however this was not using pain meds to get high. The problem is in the Vicodin counterfeit pills.

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Reply #136 posted 09/24/17 6:35am

PeteSilas

it's crazy listening to his last show, hearing him so accessible, so good, terrific performance, the audience bathed him in love. If it was suicide, i tend to think he had logical rather than emotional reasons for it. He definitely does not sound diminished in any way, in fact he sounds as good or better in that performance than ever. This isn't Elvis forgetting lyrics or Michael who at times looked lost and foolish in the this is it footage. Hell, I've been playing for years, ever since he first inspired me and I still can't even approach the quality of those performances, still had so much more than just about anyone else in the field. So what, he couldn't hop around, I'd have loved to see him stop touring all together, maybe even get more into film in a ore serious organized way than he did before, produce younger acts at PP. I hate to think that he thought there was nothing more to do as he supposedly implied to Tyka, it's music and the arts, there are always new mountains to climb, always.

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Reply #137 posted 09/24/17 6:49am

purplerabbitho
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I know. The Piano and Microphone tour is a perplexing and at times overwhelming experience. At times, when I am listening to the audio, it inspires me because it seems to reveal how even in the crux of pain/suffering, performers can find light and joy on stage. Its sad as hell because I remember that he would be dead soon thereafter and what a waste it was. The only Prince poster I have in my house is a framed 11X17 poster of this....

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PeteSilas said:

it's crazy listening to his last show, hearing him so accessible, so good, terrific performance, the audience bathed him in love. If it was suicide, i tend to think he had logical rather than emotional reasons for it. He definitely does not sound diminished in any way, in fact he sounds as good or better in that performance than ever. This isn't Elvis forgetting lyrics or Michael who at times looked lost and foolish in the this is it footage. Hell, I've been playing for years, ever since he first inspired me and I still can't even approach the quality of those performances, still had so much more than just about anyone else in the field. So what, he couldn't hop around, I'd have loved to see him stop touring all together, maybe even get more into film in a ore serious organized way than he did before, produce younger acts at PP. I hate to think that he thought there was nothing more to do as he supposedly implied to Tyka, it's music and the arts, there are always new mountains to climb, always.

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Reply #138 posted 09/24/17 7:00am

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PeteSilas said:

it's crazy listening to his last show, hearing him so accessible, so good, terrific performance, the audience bathed him in love. If it was suicide, i tend to think he had logical rather than emotional reasons for it. He definitely does not sound diminished in any way, in fact he sounds as good or better in that performance than ever. This isn't Elvis forgetting lyrics or Michael who at times looked lost and foolish in the this is it footage. Hell, I've been playing for years, ever since he first inspired me and I still can't even approach the quality of those performances, still had so much more than just about anyone else in the field. So what, he couldn't hop around, I'd have loved to see him stop touring all together, maybe even get more into film in a ore serious organized way than he did before, produce younger acts at PP. I hate to think that he thought there was nothing more to do as he supposedly implied to Tyka, it's music and the arts, there are always new mountains to climb, always.

There are always new things to do, no matter what narrow confines some people's brains inhabit. I think Prince was intelligent enough to always try new avenues, non-musical. Having said that, I think for someone as prolific as him musically- and living to what would be a good age in any other century- (let's face it, at age 57 he must have covered everything) it probably posed a problem if he couldn't do new, exceptional music anymore.


He may have done a song a day, as he implied on the Oprah show, and if you're that prolific it's only a matter of time before you start repeating yourself.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #139 posted 09/24/17 7:13am

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Who leaked the info to TMZ and who contacted CNN?

muleFunk said:

PeteSilas said:

I heard the coroner say he wasn't a longtime fentanyl user, for whatever that's worth.

No I am not an Abigail believer and I don't think I know who that is.

I have been following this since day one. I know who leaked information to TMZ and I know who contacted Padden from CNN.

See what most of you know from this story is what came from CNN and the Star Tribune.

They at first said he died from Percocet overdose until the Fentanyl appeared. This started the abuse storyline which is simply not true. Was he using pain medication ??? Yes , however this was not using pain meds to get high. The problem is in the Vicodin counterfeit pills.

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Reply #140 posted 09/24/17 7:21am

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I will not release this until the book is finished.

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Reply #141 posted 09/24/17 7:24am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

muleFunk said:

I don't believe that he committed suicide and I don't believe he faked his own death.

I have a hard enough time trying to wrap my head around the fact that he was intentionally killed.

However after reaching out to my friends in the medical profession and to my classmates in law enforcement the levels found in his system are 200 times higher than normal Fentanyl OD deaths.

That's why the DEA went into PP. They had never seen those levels before and wanted to know where they came from.

Then I started reseaching the covert use of Fentanyl and discovered it was used in political assassinations for at least 50 years. Before the medicinal use of Fentanyl became widespread people who were assassinated by this method was assumed to have died via heart failure.


I was 60-65% sure it was suicide before it was revealed how much fentanyl was found in his bloodstream. Now I'm 80% sure he chose to go. Occam's Razor again, I'm afraid. Suicide far far more likely than homicide, which is closer to 0%.



Quite the opposite.

Using Occum's Razor in a situation like this leaves you with a flawed result.

The levels of Fentanyl in his system would have probably killed whoever TOUCHED the pills less alone injested them.

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Reply #142 posted 09/24/17 7:34am

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fortuneandserendipity said:



PeteSilas said:


it's crazy listening to his last show, hearing him so accessible, so good, terrific performance, the audience bathed him in love. If it was suicide, i tend to think he had logical rather than emotional reasons for it. He definitely does not sound diminished in any way, in fact he sounds as good or better in that performance than ever. This isn't Elvis forgetting lyrics or Michael who at times looked lost and foolish in the this is it footage. Hell, I've been playing for years, ever since he first inspired me and I still can't even approach the quality of those performances, still had so much more than just about anyone else in the field. So what, he couldn't hop around, I'd have loved to see him stop touring all together, maybe even get more into film in a ore serious organized way than he did before, produce younger acts at PP. I hate to think that he thought there was nothing more to do as he supposedly implied to Tyka, it's music and the arts, there are always new mountains to climb, always.



There are always new things to do, no matter what narrow confines some people's brains inhabit. I think Prince was intelligent enough to always try new avenues, non-musical. Having said that, I think for someone as prolific as him musically- and living to what would be a good age in any other century- (let's face it, at age 57 he must have covered everything) it probably posed a problem if he couldn't do new, exceptional music anymore.



He may have done a song a day, as he implied on the Oprah show, and if you're that prolific it's only a matter of time before you start repeating yourself.






Getting old is not for pussies, it is hard...but your observation would make prince very shallow and totally negates his deep spiritual beliefs. And in regards to his music, he was just getting ready to do something completely different than what he had been doing...so you think because he lived a fabulous life, basically he of all people, could not think of anything satisfying to do with his time? So he quit?...
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Reply #143 posted 09/24/17 7:36am

StopIt

Folks who have gimped around and compensated for hip / knee / joint pain forever, and then had full replacements, are often troubled by WTF took them so long (other than their own stubbornness) to get to this better solution and much easier recovery. Just sayin'. Wish he and those who were supposedly "so brave, forward thinking, and risk-takey" would've given top-notch medical science a timely and proper shot. But, No.


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Reply #144 posted 09/24/17 7:43am

StopIt

B/c he was a know it all, with a huge ego, vanity issues, minimal education in the biomedical engineering department, fear, and incredily sub-par, ill-educated handlers/advisors on all fronts who failed to effectively maneuver for his best interests.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

laurarichardson said: Hip replacement surgery has a very high success rate in regards to quality of life and pain reduction, with lots of patients reverting to normal life, exercise and endurance. His problem must have been other than hips, as I can not imagine not having the full hip surgery, especially if you are as young as he was and living with intractable pain. If it was his hips why didn't he correct it and be done with it? It has been stated many times it was not against his religion, so I don't get it?

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Reply #145 posted 09/24/17 7:57am

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StopIt said:

B/c he was a know it all, with a huge ego, vanity issues, minimal education in the biomedical engineering department, fear, and incredily sub-par, ill-educated handlers/advisors on all fronts who failed to effectively maneuver for his best interests.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

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I have met my match...I think I'm in love

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Reply #146 posted 09/24/17 8:09am

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muleFunk said:

I will not release this until the book is finished.

What book?

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Reply #147 posted 09/24/17 8:19am

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PennyPurple said:

muleFunk said:

I will not release this until the book is finished.

What book?

Evil Incorporated: The Death of Prince Rogers Nelson

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Reply #148 posted 09/24/17 8:27am

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muleFunk said:

PennyPurple said:

What book?

Evil Incorporated: The Death of Prince Rogers Nelson

When is this book being completed/published?

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Reply #149 posted 09/24/17 8:47am

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I'm shooting for 2019.

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