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Reply #150 posted 06/17/17 8:20am

TrevorAyer

I believe disk 2 will live or die based upon the quality of source ... if the whole thing comes from bootlegs except Electric Intercourse and Fathers song (which were likely the only 2 tracks prince actually provided from his vault), I think fans will be pretty upset. A pristine Dance electric and Computer Blue would be amazing, however if its the same shitty boots we all have ... yikes.

Disk 2 on cassette would get my money in a heart beat.

What is the purpose of remastering vinyl? Mastering used to involve leveling volumes on an album so the songs are all close to the same volume. Yhese days it means compressing the living fuck out of perfectly good music until it sounds like shit but is "loud" enough to keep up with modern shitty computer pop corporate rap crap. So as your music is all the same volume when you mix tracks on your piece of shit ipod or piece of shit phone.

So why in hell does vinyl need to be remastered? There is no shuffle mode on a record player, no reason to make anything "louder". It only ruins the actual sound of the music. I don't see the point. OG PR sounds great!
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Reply #151 posted 06/17/17 11:31am

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TrevorAyer said:

I believe disk 2 will live or die based upon the quality of source ... if the whole thing comes from bootlegs except Electric Intercourse and Fathers song (which were likely the only 2 tracks prince actually provided from his vault), I think fans will be pretty upset. A pristine Dance electric and Computer Blue would be amazing, however if its the same shitty boots we all have ... yikes. Disk 2 on cassette would get my money in a heart beat. What is the purpose of remastering vinyl? Mastering used to involve leveling volumes on an album so the songs are all close to the same volume. Yhese days it means compressing the living fuck out of perfectly good music until it sounds like shit but is "loud" enough to keep up with modern shitty computer pop corporate rap crap. So as your music is all the same volume when you mix tracks on your piece of shit ipod or piece of shit phone. So why in hell does vinyl need to be remastered? There is no shuffle mode on a record player, no reason to make anything "louder". It only ruins the actual sound of the music. I don't see the point. OG PR sounds great!

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Reply #152 posted 06/17/17 11:37am

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Listening this piece of Art = Father's song.....i can see highly the Influence that Gary Numan had on Prince Music in the 1st half of the Eighties !!! cool

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Reply #153 posted 06/17/17 12:03pm

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mcmk785new said:

Silvertongue7 said:


I hope that you are right, but I keep reading it's the 83 version, which I always assumed is the one circulating. I love it, but I'd rather get something new...


It's the 1984 version, the one that was played in the background of the scene when Morris Day talks to Apollonia in Purple Rain. The 1983 version clocks in at around 8:40.
[Edited 6/17/17 3:29am]

I hope your right! That version is the shit
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Reply #154 posted 06/17/17 2:10pm

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PurpleYoda3121 said:

rdhull said:

When does he play it by ear?

Yeah, didn't he find the sheet music the morning after he knocked over all those shelves in the movie?


He found a lot of music. It's not implied that it was the song his dad was playing the night before. The bigger note is that his father didn't write down songs, yet he actually did. It was about all the songs, not just that one.

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Reply #155 posted 06/17/17 3:59pm

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Don't shoot me. I am a huge prince fan and love his music from every period in his life, but I don't really like father's song. It's a bit boring and sounds to me more like an old legend of zelda theme song. Sorry sad but the rest of the deluxe edition sounds pretty promising.
I wonder what the newly announced bootleg deluxe edition will have in store for us.
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Reply #156 posted 06/17/17 4:40pm

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TrevorAyer said:

I believe disk 2 will live or die based upon the quality of source ... if the whole thing comes from bootlegs except Electric Intercourse and Fathers song (which were likely the only 2 tracks prince actually provided from his vault), I think fans will be pretty upset. A pristine Dance electric and Computer Blue would be amazing, however if its the same shitty boots we all have ... yikes. Disk 2 on cassette would get my money in a heart beat. What is the purpose of remastering vinyl? Mastering used to involve leveling volumes on an album so the songs are all close to the same volume. Yhese days it means compressing the living fuck out of perfectly good music until it sounds like shit but is "loud" enough to keep up with modern shitty computer pop corporate rap crap. So as your music is all the same volume when you mix tracks on your piece of shit ipod or piece of shit phone. So why in hell does vinyl need to be remastered? There is no shuffle mode on a record player, no reason to make anything "louder". It only ruins the actual sound of the music. I don't see the point. OG PR sounds great!


I agree with everything except the bolded. wink

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Reply #157 posted 06/17/17 5:38pm

jstar69

WOW, WB have done a tremendous job in not letting this release leak
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Reply #158 posted 06/17/17 6:54pm

tmcjb

tomds said:

I wonder what the newly announced bootleg deluxe edition will have in store for us.

Wait, I haven't heard of this...anyone with more info?

RE: The version of "Possessed" on the album...I ended up Shazaming the intro to the leaked instrumental version from the movie, and it was successfully identified as the version on the deluxe set...meaning the version on the set is, indeed, the movie (1984) version w/ vocals. It also works if you Shazam the Hallway Speech version of Computer Blue.

[Edited 6/17/17 18:55pm]

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Reply #159 posted 06/17/17 7:06pm

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Reply #160 posted 06/17/17 7:53pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

[Snip - luv4u]


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Reply #161 posted 06/17/17 7:54pm

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TrevorAyer said:

So why in hell does vinyl need to be remastered? There is no shuffle mode on a record player, no reason to make anything "louder". It only ruins the actual sound of the music. I don't see the point. OG PR sounds great!

You clearly know nothing about remastering if you think it just involves amplifying a signal.

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Reply #162 posted 06/17/17 9:47pm

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bluegangsta said:

TrevorAyer said:

So why in hell does vinyl need to be remastered? There is no shuffle mode on a record player, no reason to make anything "louder". It only ruins the actual sound of the music. I don't see the point. OG PR sounds great!

You clearly know nothing about remastering if you think it just involves amplifying a signal.

.

But LOUDER is better!

Volume knobs are a thing of the past.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #163 posted 06/17/17 10:18pm

dave1dmarx

TrevorAyer said:

A pristine Dance electric and Computer Blue would be amazing, however if its the same shitty boots we all have ... yikes.

I don't know what boots you have in your collection, but the versions of Dance Electric and Computer Blue (hallway speech version) that I have had for the past few years are excellent. About a 9.5 of 10 in terms of sound quality.

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Reply #164 posted 06/18/17 12:12am

Romeoblu

dave1dmarx said:



TrevorAyer said:


A pristine Dance electric and Computer Blue would be amazing, however if its the same shitty boots we all have ... yikes.

I don't know what boots you have in your collection, but the versions of Dance Electric and Computer Blue (hallway speech version) that I have had for the past few years are excellent. About a 9.5 of 10 in terms of sound quality.



The Dance Electric from a couple of years ago was a massive improvement on what we had before but still a little rough sounding and was marked with a few skips.
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Reply #165 posted 06/18/17 12:33am

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Like some1 has stated few days ago....maybe the only 2 unreleased songs given by Prince with PR deluxe remaster = EI and Father 's song because their high sound quality will be maybe the only Trax from PP's Vault. ...maybe the other trax from the set are mixdown versions from WB vault with the same quality or so from the sources which are circulating since few years. ...I suspect this is the case for Trax like Our destiny / Roadhouse garden and Moonbeam levels....I hope there will not sound like an evidence for the other Trax. ...computer blue....we can fuck ..etc. ..?
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Reply #166 posted 06/18/17 3:51am

maceoparker007

udo said:

bluegangsta said:

You clearly know nothing about remastering if you think it just involves amplifying a signal.

.

But LOUDER is better!

Volume knobs are a thing of the past.


VERY WRONG....louder is not better. I suggest you watch this video by Bernie Grundman. Bernie is a sound engineer who worked with Prince on Purple Rain and Micheal Jackson Thiller.


https://youtu.be/XZjHOeEuWXk

[Edited 6/18/17 3:54am]

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Reply #167 posted 06/18/17 4:01am

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tmcjb said:



tomds said:


I wonder what the newly announced bootleg deluxe edition will have in store for us.


Wait, I haven't heard of this...anyone with more info?



RE: The version of "Possessed" on the album...I ended up Shazaming the intro to the leaked instrumental version from the movie, and it was successfully identified as the version on the deluxe set...meaning the version on the set is, indeed, the movie (1984) version w/ vocals. It also works if you Shazam the Hallway Speech version of Computer Blue.

[Edited 6/17/17 18:55pm]



Excellent detective work!
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Reply #168 posted 06/18/17 4:02am

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maceoparker007 said:

udo said:

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But LOUDER is better!

Volume knobs are a thing of the past.


VERY WRONG....louder is not better. I suggest you watch this video by Bernie Grundman. Bernie is a sound engineer who worked with Prince on Purple Rain and Micheal Jackson Thiller.


https://youtu.be/XZjHOeEuWXk

[Edited 6/18/17 3:54am]


Udo was being sarcastic.

RIP sad
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Reply #169 posted 06/18/17 5:01am

Silvertongue7

Moonbeam said:

tmcjb said:

Wait, I haven't heard of this...anyone with more info?

RE: The version of "Possessed" on the album...I ended up Shazaming the intro to the leaked instrumental version from the movie, and it was successfully identified as the version on the deluxe set...meaning the version on the set is, indeed, the movie (1984) version w/ vocals. It also works if you Shazam the Hallway Speech version of Computer Blue.

[Edited 6/17/17 18:55pm]

Excellent detective work!

Indeed! And I'm very happy to hear that. I can't wait!!!

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Reply #170 posted 06/18/17 5:54am

maceoparker007

TheEnglishGent said:

maceoparker007 said:


VERY WRONG....louder is not better. I suggest you watch this video by Bernie Grundman. Bernie is a sound engineer who worked with Prince on Purple Rain and Micheal Jackson Thiller.


https://youtu.be/XZjHOeEuWXk

[Edited 6/18/17 3:54am]


Udo was being sarcastic.

Sorry was late to the thread!

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Reply #171 posted 06/18/17 6:46am

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maceoparker007 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Udo was being sarcastic.

Sorry was late to the thread!

How can you be late to a thread when it's history is contained within it? hmmm

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Reply #172 posted 06/18/17 9:57am

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WB can only release what they have in possession at this time. We may want pristine sound and things like that, but the reality is that much of what Prince stored may not have been kept up and a lot may not be finished and mastered by him. Since there is no decision on WHO gets to master what and what can come out, they can just give us what he gave them. The Vault is at Paisley it is not at WB offices. We may debate WB putting this out now because maybe later they will have more, but maybe they will never have that chance so before things really start to fade and Prince's loyal base of fans is still here themselves, get out what you can.


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Reply #173 posted 06/18/17 10:07am

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Silvertongue7 said:



Moonbeam said:


tmcjb said:



Wait, I haven't heard of this...anyone with more info?



RE: The version of "Possessed" on the album...I ended up Shazaming the intro to the leaked instrumental version from the movie, and it was successfully identified as the version on the deluxe set...meaning the version on the set is, indeed, the movie (1984) version w/ vocals. It also works if you Shazam the Hallway Speech version of Computer Blue.


[Edited 6/17/17 18:55pm]



Excellent detective work!

Indeed! And I'm very happy to hear that. I can't wait!!!



Wow! Very excited about this!
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Reply #174 posted 06/18/17 11:20am

Ugot2shakesumt
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bluegangsta said:



maceoparker007 said:



TheEnglishGent said:


Udo was being sarcastic.



Sorry was late to the thread!



How can you be late to a thread when it's history is contained within it? hmmm



Really? Because the mods keep this monstrosity of a thread going, closing and redirecting everything but the kitchen sink into it instead of using two brain cells and allowing specific albums topics into it.

...Now that's alt control fail.
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Reply #175 posted 06/18/17 11:27am

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Father's Song is lovely. I was just saying the other day that i wished he had made more music like this (instramental). I can't stop listening.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #176 posted 06/18/17 11:41am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:


Really? Because the mods keep this monstrosity of a thread going, closing and redirecting everything but the kitchen sink into it instead of using two brain cells and allowing specific albums topics into it. ...Now that's alt control fail.

No one is making you come here to read it, either. So your burden is your own.


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Reply #177 posted 06/18/17 11:54am

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TrivialPursuit said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:



Really? Because the mods keep this monstrosity of a thread going, closing and redirecting everything but the kitchen sink into it instead of using two brain cells and allowing specific albums topics into it. ...Now that's alt control fail.


No one is making you come here to read it, either. So your burden is your own.




No one is making me read anything and surely making it more difficult is not helping. So sit your own ass down.
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Reply #178 posted 06/18/17 12:12pm

tmcjb

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Really? Because the mods keep this monstrosity of a thread going, closing and redirecting everything but the kitchen sink into it instead of using two brain cells and allowing specific albums topics into it. ...Now that's alt control fail.

But if we don't keep it confined to one thread, how are we gonna inspire thought-provoking discussion such as Prince having his ribs removed? rolleyes

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Reply #179 posted 06/18/17 12:18pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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tmcjb said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


Really? Because the mods keep this monstrosity of a thread going, closing and redirecting everything but the kitchen sink into it instead of using two brain cells and allowing specific albums topics into it. ...Now that's alt control fail.


But if we don't keep it confined to one thread, how are we gonna inspire thought-provoking discussion such as Prince having his ribs removed? rolleyes



Lol, like that's not buried in this mess of a thread..part 3 or whatever number it's on.

It's just that honestly, we need better moderation and what we have now is nice of them, but really wtf??
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