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Reply #60 posted 04/16/17 4:04pm

SomeSoldier

I watched two minutes, i can't put up with the rest. Utter rubbish...
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Reply #61 posted 04/16/17 4:11pm

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Saved only (but not really) by the real performance and interview footage and photos. Makes you realise how bad an idea a fully dramatised biopic would be.
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Reply #62 posted 04/16/17 4:32pm

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Absolutely terrible.

Reductive, weaving a false narrative that kept banging on about his "demons" every 10 seconds, got basic facts wrong and the acting was hilariously bad. Plus, the poor taste of recreating the elevator scene.

Absolute rubbish.

Oh god, agreed. I grimaced so hard at that.

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Reply #63 posted 04/16/17 5:09pm

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Exactly the kind of rubbish that I expected, but some of those performances were unimaginably awful (almost laughably so). I'm really tired of Prince being cast as some kind of tragic figure. His death was certainly tragic, but for me his life and art was triumphant. The mediocre seem to relish misinterpreting brilliance. “He was an creative genius, but what's it worth if you're alone?”. Really? Prince deserves a serious and thoughtful documentary by a decent director that explores his cultural and artistic impact (something along the lines of Scorsese's “No Direction Home” ). A director like Steve Mcqueen maybe? (“Hunger”, “12 Years A Slave”, intelligent, also a fan). In any case, hopefully someone with talent and taste will tackle it eventually.

AMEN! Prince lived his life to the fullest, using every waking moment of his life to write, record, sing, arrange and compose music for himself and the many artists he mentored. He had some of the world's most gorgeous women as lovers and wives this world has ever seen and believed fervently in his Creator for spiritual strength that carried him in good times and bad times. Too many of these talking heads ascribe things about Prince's problems that even Prince didnt think was a big deal. Prince liked working alone and he has worked alone in the studio all his life. I was thinking every great artist has a biography in this vein that sensationalizes the worst of a celebrity's personality. When Eminem goes, it will happen to him. Nobody of even average intelligence should take this program seriously. Also, it should be pointed out that many of the associates interviewed haven't spoken to Prince in decades, so the way the way they remember Prince will be different from how Prince was in the last 15 years. Jokingly, if any associate hasn't had significant contact with Prince he grew his afro, can't honestly give great insight into Prince in the final years.

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Reply #64 posted 04/16/17 5:14pm

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The "highlight" for me was the Unchain My Heart rehearsal. Shocking band, Mark Anthony was awful - I've heard a bunch of 8 year olds sound better playing together.

It was like taking a shit on his urn.

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Reply #65 posted 04/16/17 11:13pm

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They recreated the lift scene. Simply tasteless.
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Reply #66 posted 04/16/17 11:25pm

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Oh no - now I'm in a dilema! I recorded it because I hate the amount of ads on Channel 5. To watch it and get pissed off at how bad it is or just delete and pretend it never happened?

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Reply #67 posted 04/17/17 12:15am

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It was an odd how they kept flitting back and fourth from his childhood to his adult years.

Did Mica Paris even meet Prince more than once? I've only heard of that Just My Imagination aftershow - a story she loves to tell, but she never recalls any other encounters. It really made me cringe when she said that Prince "changed for me" when his baby died, as if she was close enough to him to really make that judgement. So fake.
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Reply #68 posted 04/17/17 12:15am

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maplenpg said:

Oh no - now I'm in a dilema! I recorded it because I hate the amount of ads on Channel 5. To watch it and get pissed off at how bad it is or just delete and pretend it never happened?



No good can come of watching it. I vote delete and never speak of this again.
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Reply #69 posted 04/17/17 12:18am

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Oh no - now I'm in a dilema! I recorded it because I hate the amount of ads on Channel 5. To watch it and get pissed off at how bad it is or just delete and pretend it never happened?



Make you own mind up and view it yourself, if you took advice from the majority negative here you would never see or watch anything.
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Reply #70 posted 04/17/17 12:23am

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Here's a clip of the impersonator who is in the doco being interviewed a few months ago incase anyone is interested.


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Reply #71 posted 04/17/17 12:31am

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While typically tabloid in approach, if they had not done the "dramatic" scenes with that "actor" (especially trying to recreate performances in the studio which sounded so awful) then it was quite interesting if narrow in focus.

As others have said, to a casual non fan you would think Prince was a hermit who didn't release any music or tour throughout the 2000s!!!

The hook/focus being on his loneliness and parental demons also meant they skirted around putting enough focus on his two key relationships... Mayte and Manuela. In fact they gave Manuela just one sentance! She was his wife and partner for several years. Surely a documentary focusing on his loneliness as a person should have dwelt a little longer on both his marriages and how they impacted him?

Despite its flaws it still had me totally depressed and sad by the end...dying alone (and seemingly alone in all aspects of his life)...what a waste!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #72 posted 04/17/17 12:45am

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I thought that the first half wasn't too bad. It very much veered towards armchair psychology but the input from some of his early associates was interesting.
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However, the overly-portentous voiceover and score grew old pretty quickly and the reconstructions were superfluous and tacky (and woefully bad in acting/singing/dancing ability).
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That said, the last half was pretty terrible. One moment it's talking about the
2004 R'n'R 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps' performance and immediately we're in 2013 with the voiceover describing his "first public appearance in years" despite a huge amount of activity in that period (Super Bowl, the 3121 Vegas Residency, 21 Nights In London, etc.)
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The final "Piano & Microphone" tour was depicted as playing to half a dozen punters in a smokey basement bar, rather than the arenas he actually played in. It served their washed-up & lonely narrative but wasn't very honest.
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Pretty poor overall. Unsurprisingly, fans won't really learn anything here.
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(Also P was wearing purple trousers/pants in the Vanity/Rolling Stone cover recreation, when it's clear he's in jeans in the actual picture. If they can't get those details right.... wink )
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Reply #73 posted 04/17/17 1:03am

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Lol yeah that's right... Prince playing 21 sold out nights at the O2 in London was definitely the sign of a washed up recluse!!!! Oh and that mediocre Super Bowl half time show wasn't lauded as the best ever and wasn't watched by millions of people!

The skirting of his 2000s career was a very poor and contrived way to hammer home their hook!

What would have made the documentary more interesting is if they had attempted to reconcile his public and private personas. During the 2000s he continued to have success (albeit never coming close to the commercial success of his 80s hey day) and continued to tour and release albums. He remained in the public eye! What would be interesting would be to contrast that with what was going on in private (if indeed anyone actually knows).

And as said above...focusing on BOTH marriages is surely key to a hook about loneliness and lacking in love?
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'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #74 posted 04/17/17 1:46am

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And not to forget the very succesful Musicology Tour in 2004, alle the Montreux Shows, the whole 3rdeygirl era, and on and on and on ....

I also thought the first part was not too bad but the second part and the impersonator were awful.

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Reply #75 posted 04/17/17 2:45am

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I hated it. All of it. It kind of sums up all that's wrong with the media today. Poorly researched, inaccurate, badly acted and mainly just made up shite. The acted scenes are really the worst I've ever seen. There was virtually no insight into his music, creativity or diversity. I watched with family and felt I had to correct almost everything. I think they are even more confused about why I spent the last 30+ years being enthralled in his world of creativity. Back to reading Mayte - The Most Beautiful.
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Reply #76 posted 04/17/17 3:08am

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Militant said:

Absolutely terrible.

Reductive, weaving a false narrative that kept banging on about his "demons" every 10 seconds, got basic facts wrong and the acting was hilariously bad. Plus, the poor taste of recreating the elevator scene.

Absolute rubbish.

I feared as much. Sad, really, that they can get away with this kind of crap.

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Reply #77 posted 04/17/17 5:41am

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So glad i did not watch this mess. sad

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Reply #78 posted 04/17/17 5:55am

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It was a depressing "version" of the Prince, we as fans knew. It felt like they needed to portray every second of his life as tragic..with him as a lonely, sad, insecure, insular, broken recluse of a man-at all times. It was a channel 5 doc(using the term lightly, me I prefer fabrication).

Inclusion of accounts from figures in his life from decades ago was interesting but should have been balanced with those in his life in recent years. Yes, I can't imagine why anyone of them wouldn't have wanted to be interviewed for this programme either:)

Ultimately; badly portrayed drama, factually inept and a dishonour to the man himself. Prince was used to this kind of re-writing of his life, I guess I had just hoped(clearly unwisely) that they would show respect to him now he was gone. Lies and tragedy sell, recognition and celebration of an icon, of Prince, not so much it seems.

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Reply #79 posted 04/17/17 6:22am

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Leeds?

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Reply #80 posted 04/17/17 8:33am

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If he had so many demons and personal issues, how could he create over a thousand songs, master many different instruments, tour constantly, mentor and develop dozens of musicians? The relationship with his father drove him probably but we all have motors that drive us.

He found a transcedence through his music that he perhaps couldn't find in other people, but lots of people feel like that, but there's only one Prince.

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Reply #81 posted 04/17/17 12:14pm

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A lot of amateur psychology going on, hilariously bad drama scenes, and badly researched tabloid type "info." Classic Channel 5.





Hmmmm. That description sounds uncannily similar to how this very site could be described! Don't you think?



Sounds like we didn't miss much Stateside, that we can't get ri'chere on prince.org ;د)





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Reply #82 posted 04/17/17 1:17pm

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Leeds?

..came across as a petty sniping tit.

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Reply #83 posted 04/17/17 1:25pm

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phatphuk said:

TheDigitalGardener said:



A lot of amateur psychology going on, hilariously bad drama scenes, and badly researched tabloid type "info." Classic Channel 5.





Hmmmm. That description sounds uncannily similar to how this very site could be described! Don't you think?



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Reply #84 posted 04/17/17 1:50pm

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TheDigitalGardener said:

phatphuk said:

TheDigitalGardener said:



A lot of amateur psychology going on, hilariously bad drama scenes, and badly researched tabloid type "info." Classic Channel 5.





Hmmmm. That description sounds uncannily similar to how this very site could be described! Don't you think?





I couldn't post what I really think about this site without being banned.


Oh, come on. Pretty please? For me? batting eyes popcorn

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Reply #85 posted 04/17/17 2:11pm

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Genesia said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

I couldn't post what I really think about this site without being banned.


Oh, come on. Pretty please? For me? batting eyes popcorn

Haha, not even for you my friend. wink

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Reply #86 posted 04/17/17 2:13pm

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TheDigitalGardener said:

Genesia said:


Oh, come on. Pretty please? For me? batting eyes popcorn

Haha, not even for you my friend. wink


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Reply #87 posted 04/17/17 2:38pm

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bergowitz said:

If he had so many demons and personal issues, how could he create over a thousand songs, master many different instruments, tour constantly, mentor and develop dozens of musicians? The relationship with his father drove him probably but we all have motors that drive us.

He found a transcedence through his music that he perhaps couldn't find in other people, but lots of people feel like that, but there's only one Prince.

Yes, I agree. My fundamental issue with that kind of approach is that it gives no indication of the colour, joy, creativity and humour that Prince brought into the world. If you take any great artist and subtract the work itself from the retelling of the story, it’s often going to sound rather bleak. The work IS Prince, everything else is secondary in my view (as it was in his, I’m sure).

As you say, at his very best he approached genuine transcendence, not just for himself but for his audience also. Of all the footage floating around, the one that seems to upset me the most is his joyful performance of “All The Critics Love You In Montreux” (2009). Apart from the searing, euphoria inducing guitar work, the moment that really gets to me is when the camera briefly cuts to the audience, all jumping in perfect unison, to a young girl sitting on someone’s shoulders, beaming with delight. Very few people are capable of imparting that kind of experience to others, and the only tragedy as far as I’m concerned is that he is no longer here to share his gift.

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Reply #88 posted 04/18/17 8:21am

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maplenpg said:

Oh no - now I'm in a dilema! I recorded it because I hate the amount of ads on Channel 5. To watch it and get pissed off at how bad it is or just delete and pretend it never happened?

No good can come of watching it. I vote delete and never speak of this again.

Oh how I wish I'd listened! I've just watched half of this shit, I am now going to delete. This is possibly the worst piece of television about Prince that I've ever seen. Awful, stomach-churningly awful.

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Reply #89 posted 04/18/17 12:17pm

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maplenpg said:



lust said:


maplenpg said:

Oh no - now I'm in a dilema! I recorded it because I hate the amount of ads on Channel 5. To watch it and get pissed off at how bad it is or just delete and pretend it never happened?



No good can come of watching it. I vote delete and never speak of this again.

Oh how I wish I'd listened! I've just watched half of this shit, I am now going to delete. This is possibly the worst piece of television about Prince that I've ever seen. Awful, stomach-churningly awful.




You watched the best half. lol
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