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Reply #180 posted 02/12/17 11:06am

MMJas

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joytotheworld said:

For those of us that were not able to view the program or do not have the channel, appreciate everyone's feedback.

It's on YT, that' where I watched it.

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Reply #181 posted 02/12/17 11:14am

morningsong

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SBartist said:




tmo1965 said:


This "documentary" was really not all that. We've heard all of this info before. The part that I really did NOT like was when they mentioned that Duane's and Lorna's attorney said that Duane and Lorna told him that Prince had a cocaine problem. HLN did mention that Prince was estranged from Lorna before her death and that they both (Duane and Lorna) are deceased now. This information is highly suspect and should not have been mentioned. Prince's true fans know the story behind these 2 siblings of Prince, but the general public does not and may take what was presented in this "documentary" as gospel.



^Not only that^, but what 'attorney' gives an interview about what their deceased 'client' supposedly said. Hearsay.



They misrepresented this information to fit into an already weak storyline. Wrong of them to do it, and shame on them.




They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.
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Reply #182 posted 02/12/17 11:27am

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morningsong said:

vuvuzela said:

They misrepresented this information to fit into an already weak storyline. Wrong of them to do it, and shame on them.

They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.

It was reported by the lawyer that Duane had said cocaine.

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Reply #183 posted 02/12/17 11:59am

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morningsong said:

vuvuzela said:



SBartist said:




tmo1965 said:


This "documentary" was really not all that. We've heard all of this info before. The part that I really did NOT like was when they mentioned that Duane's and Lorna's attorney said that Duane and Lorna told him that Prince had a cocaine problem. HLN did mention that Prince was estranged from Lorna before her death and that they both (Duane and Lorna) are deceased now. This information is highly suspect and should not have been mentioned. Prince's true fans know the story behind these 2 siblings of Prince, but the general public does not and may take what was presented in this "documentary" as gospel.



^Not only that^, but what 'attorney' gives an interview about what their deceased 'client' supposedly said. Hearsay.



They misrepresented this information to fit into an already weak storyline. Wrong of them to do it, and shame on them.




They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.

The asshole scumbag attorney said cocaine before but now it is Percocet. Despite the fact that we have not heard anything else about Percocet since TMZ first said it.
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Reply #184 posted 02/12/17 12:00pm

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muleFunk said:

morningsong said:

vuvuzela said: They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.

It was reported by the lawyer that Duane had said cocaine.

Who cares what Duane said. He was probably talking about himself. razz

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Reply #185 posted 02/12/17 12:05pm

morningsong

muleFunk said:



morningsong said:


vuvuzela said:


They misrepresented this information to fit into an already weak storyline. Wrong of them to do it, and shame on them.



They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.



It was reported by the lawyer that Duane had said cocaine.




Yep I've seen that said many times here on the org, but that program didn't say that. I have no idea why.
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Reply #186 posted 02/12/17 12:13pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:




They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.

The asshole scumbag attorney said cocaine before but now it is Percocet. Despite the fact that we have not heard anything else about Percocet since TMZ first said it.



Well Percocet is legal, cocaine is not. And though it's disappeared from YT there was one person who we all know was very close to Prince mention he knew he was taking pain meds.
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Reply #187 posted 02/12/17 12:26pm

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muleFunk said:



paulludvig said:


laurarichardson said:
Everything you said back in the summer has happened.

What kind of things? Just curious.


I said that this whole affair has earmarks of a Black operation/smear campaign.



Everytime there is a positive Prince event there is a leak or some story in print to say he was a drug user although there is no evidence that he was.




Which is why I don't get why this is a sticky. It's just garbage. Not surprised that HLN would run it but the org shouldn't promote it.
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Reply #188 posted 02/12/17 12:33pm

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rogifan said:

muleFunk said:

I said that this whole affair has earmarks of a Black operation/smear campaign.

Everytime there is a positive Prince event there is a leak or some story in print to say he was a drug user although there is no evidence that he was.

Which is why I don't get why this is a sticky. It's just garbage. Not surprised that HLN would run it but the org shouldn't promote it.

I agree with you 100% but I am guessing they didn't want 1000 threads about it.

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Reply #189 posted 02/12/17 12:57pm

morningsong

rogifan said:

muleFunk said:



paulludvig said:


laurarichardson said:
Everything you said back in the summer has happened.

What kind of things? Just curious.


I said that this whole affair has earmarks of a Black operation/smear campaign.



Everytime there is a positive Prince event there is a leak or some story in print to say he was a drug user although there is no evidence that he was.




Which is why I don't get why this is a sticky. It's just garbage. Not surprised that HLN would run it but the org shouldn't promote it.



How did they smear him? The person who is claiming that it's others smearing his name is the one person in this thread bringing up the cocaine rumor, a rumor that show did not mention. That's why I watched the show I've had enough of this type of stuff playing out repeatedly. There was no new information but it wasn't a smear campaign either. More smear has taken place in many other stickies than this one.
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Reply #190 posted 02/12/17 1:11pm

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muleFunk said:



rogifan said:


muleFunk said:



I said that this whole affair has earmarks of a Black operation/smear campaign.



Everytime there is a positive Prince event there is a leak or some story in print to say he was a drug user although there is no evidence that he was.





Which is why I don't get why this is a sticky. It's just garbage. Not surprised that HLN would run it but the org shouldn't promote it.


I agree with you 100% but I am guessing they didn't want 1000 threads about it.


I wish the family would tell us the truth about his death so the anger about a Black operation smear campaign could either be put to some use or dissipate.
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Reply #191 posted 02/12/17 1:18pm

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laurarichardson said:

haleno1 said:
Yeah exactly Laura which I find horrifying.
--It means they are going to make up crap. I hope the family can stop them from using pictures.

Not necessarily. The complete report was given to at least Tyka and maybe other siblings. Any one of them can sell the report. I think we true Prince fans will be able spot BS when we hear it, but that won't be the case with the general public.

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Reply #192 posted 02/12/17 1:40pm

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tmo1965 said:



laurarichardson said:


haleno1 said:
Yeah exactly Laura which I find horrifying.

--It means they are going to make up crap. I hope the family can stop them from using pictures.

Not necessarily. The complete report was given to at least Tyka and maybe other siblings. Any one of them can sell the report. I think we true Prince fans will be able spot BS when we hear it, but that won't be the case with the general public.


--I do not think anyone is going to sell anything. The are going to inherit millions no need to sell anything. Next you will have the family having a yard sale at Tyka's house.
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Reply #193 posted 02/12/17 2:28pm

tmo1965

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I watched ....I believe Prince shouldn't have left the hospital early.Also I'm not surprised he weighed 115 pounds.That's actually pretty good for his size.I always thought he weight 115-120. Also,Pepe Willie came off a little bit jealous of Prince with saying stuff like Prince wasn't Prince anymore and that he was too far gone.What kind of mess is that?

On the HLN special, it restated earlier reports (by TMZ I think) that Prince left the hospital after 2-3 hours, but Judith Hill stated that he was in the hospital until late morning. This article (https://www.nytimes.com/2....html?_r=0), which we've all read, says that Prince wanted to leave the hospital, but Judith and Kirk talked him into staying, and that he was very cooperative. The plane left Moline at 10:57 am. So Prince was in the hospital for 8-9 hours. It's these little details that can leave the viewer with a false impression, that Prince was being a diva and left the hospital against the doctor's orders.

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As for his weight, I think that although 115 lbs is on the low end of his ideal weight, that he normally weighed in the 130 - 139lbs range. For Prince, 15 - 20 lbs weight is significant, so all was not well with him.

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Reply #194 posted 02/12/17 2:43pm

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morningsong said:

rogifan said:


Which is why I don't get why this is a sticky. It's just garbage. Not surprised that HLN would run it but the org shouldn't promote it.



How did they smear him? The person who is claiming that it's others smearing his name is the one person in this thread bringing up the cocaine rumor, a rumor that show did not mention. That's why I watched the show I've had enough of this type of stuff playing out repeatedly. There was no new information but it wasn't a smear campaign either. More smear has taken place in many other stickies than this one.

Well maybe it was in a smear campaign but I still think it's garbage and not worthy of a sticky, especially when the drug related one is locked until after April 21. The mods had to know that's where this thread would go.
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Reply #195 posted 02/12/17 2:47pm

tmo1965

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:
They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.
The asshole scumbag attorney said cocaine before but now it is Percocet. Despite the fact that we have not heard anything else about Percocet since TMZ first said it.

Yes, it was the attorney who put out the cocaine lie. The HLN special did say that the scumbag attorney said that Lorna told him Prince was using "illicit" drugs, which to me illicit means illegal drugs such as crack, coke, meth, heroin, etc., not Rx drugs. I think that HLN/CNN did not want to say cocaine, because they knew the source of the info was suspect.

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Reply #196 posted 02/12/17 2:54pm

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tmo1965 said:



laurarichardson said:


morningsong said:
They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.

The asshole scumbag attorney said cocaine before but now it is Percocet. Despite the fact that we have not heard anything else about Percocet since TMZ first said it.

Yes, it was the attorney who put out the cocaine lie. The HLN special did say that the scumbag attorney said that Lorna told him Prince was using "illicit" drugs, which to me illicit means illegal drugs such as crack, coke, meth, heroin, etc., not Rx drugs. I think that HLN/CNN did not want to say cocaine, because they knew the source of the info was suspect.



Wow this is getting nutty, why the focus on cocaine when nobody on the show said cocaine?? What is your point? We all know the show was as fake as a three dollar bill so what are you getting at?
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Reply #197 posted 02/12/17 2:59pm

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What is an illicit drug?
Illicit drugs include illegal drugs (such as cannabis, opiates, and certain types of stimulants), pharmaceutical drugs (such as pain-killers and tranquillisers) when used for non-medical purposes, and other substances used inappropriately (such as inhalants).
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Reply #198 posted 02/12/17 3:10pm

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TMZ style trash.

Liberty > Authority
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Reply #199 posted 02/12/17 3:20pm

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TMZ style trash.


It was even worse than tmz lol. That investigative journalist was high as a kite on something and the talking heads were obviously reading (poorly) off some script, things they had never really thought about. It was too dopey to be salacious, and it sure wasn't informative.
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Reply #200 posted 02/12/17 3:34pm

tmo1965

paisleypearl said:

What is an illicit drug? Illicit drugs include illegal drugs (such as cannabis, opiates, and certain types of stimulants), pharmaceutical drugs (such as pain-killers and tranquillisers) when used for non-medical purposes, and other substances used inappropriately (such as inhalants).

http://www.healthline.com...#Overview1

Illicit drugs are those that are illegal to make, sell, or use. They include:

  • cocaine
  • amphetamines
  • heroin
  • hallucinogens
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Reply #201 posted 02/12/17 3:40pm

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tmo1965 said:

Yes, it was the attorney who put out the cocaine lie. The HLN special did say that the scumbag attorney said that Lorna told him Prince was using "illicit" drugs, which to me illicit means illegal drugs such as crack, coke, meth, heroin, etc., not Rx drugs. I think that HLN/CNN did not want to say cocaine, because they knew the source of the info was suspect.

Wow this is getting nutty, why the focus on cocaine when nobody on the show said cocaine?? What is your point? We all know the show was as fake as a three dollar bill so what are you getting at?

What's nutty about it? I'm just agreeing with laurarichardson about where the cocaine story originated and pointing out that HLN came as close as they could to repeating that part without saying cocaine. I would be totally eek eek if Prince was on coke. I don't believe that he was.

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Reply #202 posted 02/12/17 4:44pm

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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:


The asshole scumbag attorney said cocaine before but now it is Percocet. Despite the fact that we have not heard anything else about Percocet since TMZ first said it.



Well Percocet is legal, cocaine is not. And though it's disappeared from YT there was one person who we all know was very close to Prince mention he knew he was taking pain meds.

--Quite a few people have said that he was taking pain meds because he was in pain. Tavis Smiley was the first person to say it was for pain that Prince was not a recreational drug user and many others have repeatly. The media wants to listen to people who did not know him from Adam. eek
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Reply #203 posted 02/12/17 5:09pm

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I'm not speaking speaking for tmo1965, but imo..when people who watched this "documentary" and heard the talking head state that the scumbag attorney cited Lorna and Duane as stating that P was on Percocet, we all knew the back story from years ago where this same attorney stated it was cocaine that Lorna and Duane said P was on. So...you've got one story from years ago stating one thing and now they're citing the same attorney stating it was a different drug altogether, it's like get your shit straight if you're going to put that out there...which one was it? Cocaine or Percocet, Asshole??? (Talking about the attorney)...Hence the "smear campaign" take on this BS, unfounded story. Furthermore, while this was being said they showed a pic of P and Duane...in which Duane looked high as a phuecking kite! ...and P looked completely composed as always




paisleypearl said:

tmo1965 said:



laurarichardson said:


morningsong said:
They never said, Duane said cocaine. They said he said it was Percocet. They never mentioned the word cocaine through the entire episode.

The asshole scumbag attorney said cocaine before but now it is Percocet. Despite the fact that we have not heard anything else about Percocet since TMZ first said it.

Yes, it was the attorney who put out the cocaine lie. The HLN special did say that the scumbag attorney said that Lorna told him Prince was using "illicit" drugs, which to me illicit means illegal drugs such as crack, coke, meth, heroin, etc., not Rx drugs. I think that HLN/CNN did not want to say cocaine, because they knew the source of the info was suspect.



Wow this is getting nutty, why the focus on cocaine when nobody on the show said cocaine?? What is your point? We all know the show was as fake as a three dollar bill so what are you getting at?
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Reply #204 posted 02/12/17 5:19pm

paisleypearl

I can only guess at what the media wants but this show in particular was an average HLN crapfest. I don't think even Forensic Files could find a single redeeming quality in it.
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Reply #205 posted 02/12/17 7:51pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:




Well Percocet is legal, cocaine is not. And though it's disappeared from YT there was one person who we all know was very close to Prince mention he knew he was taking pain meds.

--Quite a few people have said that he was taking pain meds because he was in pain. Tavis Smiley was the first person to say it was for pain that Prince was not a recreational drug user and many others have repeatly. The media wants to listen to people who did not know him from Adam. eek



Enough people have said it so I don't see how this show could ignore it and not say anything. I stopped saying Travis since the vid disappeared and he hasn't mentioned it since. But he has been friends with him for 20 years.
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Reply #206 posted 02/13/17 4:44am

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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:
--Quite a few people have said that he was taking pain meds because he was in pain. Tavis Smiley was the first person to say it was for pain that Prince was not a recreational drug user and many others have repeatly. The media wants to listen to people who did not know him from Adam. eek
Enough people have said it so I don't see how this show could ignore it and not say anything. I stopped saying Travis since the vid disappeared and he hasn't mentioned it since. But he has been friends with him for 20 years.

If you go on YOUTUBE his video with Sway in the morning is still up.

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Reply #207 posted 02/13/17 5:38am

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As a regular Paisley Park attender I had heard several times from people who were friends with staff members that Prince was addicted to pain meds for several years. It was not a secret.

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Reply #208 posted 02/13/17 5:56am

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fielder said:

As a regular Paisley Park attender I had heard several times from people who were friends with staff members that Prince was addicted to pain meds for several years. It was not a secret.

Addicted or using these medications is not the point with me.

I personally know several people who are dependent on these meds. I know one that died from using a sinus medication with a pain med.

The point here is the fact that every time a big event or anniversary comes up with Prince someone with power decides to put something in the media just to remind you that he was using drugs to discredit his memory. This has happened EVERYTIME in the last 9 months.

The lead song off his last album was Baltimore which was an anthem against police brutality. How many songs has Prince written in this century against the system?

The fact he was found in a elevator should be ringing alarm bells because most ODs of this type were found in bed or in a relaxed position.

I am now of the opinion that these fentanyl laced pills were introduced surreptitiously and caused his appearence to change and then he knew that something was wrong and set upon correcting the problem and bam he's dead.

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Reply #209 posted 02/13/17 5:58am

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How many articles/TV shows on George Micheal have you seen and he had far more moral missteps than Prince yet crickets.

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