214 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Me liking the album cut vs the long version is like

10 to 9

I mean I love both of them, just the extended 4 me doesn't do a whole lot more. Love the ending of it though.

Ok i see.

R there any standout parts or sounds that really pull U N on the extended version?

This is the best Prince: Music and More thread I've every read!

OldFriends4Sale said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Great thread OldFriends! I am not sure if this has been mentioned already but the person in the bottom left corner of this image reminds me of Bob Dylan (and his song Mr Tambourine Man) which would seem to connect with Prince's 'Tamborine' track... Just a thought.

Yes he does, a little like the guy in full black on the official cover too.
I think that guy in the corner also looks like one of the Beatles

Which one were you thinking of?

OldFriends4Sale said:

Theatre Du Verdure, France 10.27.1985

October 27 , 1985
Theatre Du Verdure, France
Video Shoot

The videotaped interview was conducted in France, where Prince was shooting his forthcoming motion picture, Under the Cherry Moon. He first took a break to film the video for America, the third single from the Around the World in a Day LP, before 2,000 kids at the Theatre de la Verdure (translation: Greenery Theatre), which is a huge tent on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice. Once the video shoot was completed, Prince & the Revolution treated the audience to a 90-minute concert. Afterwards, Prince sat with a few of the young people in attendance and answered the questions prepared by the MTV Music News staff. It marked the first time in his career that Prince had said more than two sentences on TV. Unfortunately, in many cases, he didn't answer the questions posed, as you'll see. Although Prince is very good at many things, his inexperience with interviews shows greatly.

Rehearsal
1.Pop Life
2.Temptation
3.Paisley Park
4.Love Or Money `
5.Go *
6.Interlude
7.An Honest Man `

Mini Concert

1.America [Video]
2.Paisley Park
3.Delirious
4.Little Red Corvette
5.Purple Rain

One of the best posts! Thank you! Peace.

amimissinsumthin said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Theatre Du Verdure, France 10.27.1985

October 27 , 1985
Theatre Du Verdure, France
Video Shoot

The videotaped interview was conducted in France, where Prince was shooting his forthcoming motion picture, Under the Cherry Moon. He first took a break to film the video for America, the third single from the Around the World in a Day LP, before 2,000 kids at the Theatre de la Verdure (translation: Greenery Theatre), which is a huge tent on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice. Once the video shoot was completed, Prince & the Revolution treated the audience to a 90-minute concert. Afterwards, Prince sat with a few of the young people in attendance and answered the questions prepared by the MTV Music News staff. It marked the first time in his career that Prince had said more than two sentences on TV. Unfortunately, in many cases, he didn't answer the questions posed, as you'll see. Although Prince is very good at many things, his inexperience with interviews shows greatly.

Rehearsal
1.Pop Life
2.Temptation
3.Paisley Park
4.Love Or Money `
5.Go *
6.Interlude
7.An Honest Man `

Mini Concert

1.America [Video]
2.Paisley Park
3.Delirious
4.Little Red Corvette
5.Purple Rain

One of the best posts! Thank you! Peace.

this one needs to be a concert disc for sure.
One of the top of the purple holy grails of shows

Hello
recorded in the Spring of 1985 Hello is essentially a blow by blow description of the events/evening of the We Are the World session, 4 The Tears In Your Eyes is the song Prince gladly wrote instead. Sheila E attended the We Are The World recording.
background vocals by Lisa Wendy & Jill Jones

Hello (Hello) Hello (Hello) {x3}
I tried 2 tell them that I didn't want 2 sing
But I'd gladly write a song instead
They said OK and everything was cool
Till a camera tried 2 get in my bed (Hello)
My bed (Hello) (Hello)

I was sittin' pretty with a beautiful friend ("Oh darling")
When this man tries 2 get in the car
("Hey Prince, come on, give us a smile, eh?")
No introduction, "How've U been?"
Just - "Up yours! Smile, that's right, U're a star!" (Star)

U call 'em bodyguards but I call 'em my friends
I guess I'm used 2 havin' 'em around
And cameras by nature like rewards
That's the trouble I get when I'm Uptown

I'm not afraid 2 die cuz I know there's a better place 2 go
(Don't be afraid cuz there's a better place 2 go)
I eat what I want, whole wheat toast
(U can eat what U want, anything is cool in moderation)
And I'm happy, and that's 4 sure

We're against hungry children, our record stands tall
But there's just as much hunger here at home
We'll do what we can if y'all try 2 understand
A flower that has water will grow
And a child misunderstood will go
Hello! {x3}
(Hello)

Everybody

Gotta he..., gotta he... he... hello!

I haven't lost my desire
I wouldn't beg U
Instead of playin' deduction of what 2 do
They called me rude often
When I called their hand
They judged me and told me that we're through
"Why can't U be like the others?"
I cried out over and again
"Why can't U learn 2 play by the rules?"
But maybe at last it's the end
Because I am not like others
I'm unique in the respect I'm not U

I know in my heart I would try 2 love U
I wouldn't try 2 hurt U despite all the ways U try 2 hurt me
U call me a fraud, an uncaring wretch
But I'm an artist and my only aim is 2 please
Between U and yours, myself and mine
Isn't life cruel enough without cruel words, cruel words?
U see, words are like shoes
They're just something 2 stand on
I wish U could be in my shoes
But they're probably so high, U'd fall off and die
4 U words are definitely not shoes
They're weapons and tools of destruction
And your time is boring unless U're putting something down
What would life be if we believed what we read
And a smile is just hiding a frown?
Come now, isn't life a little better with a pair of good shoes?

The Ladder

Once upon a time in the land of Sinaplenty
There lived a king who didn't deserve 2 be
He knew not where he came from
Nor where he was going
He never once said thank U, never please

Now this king he had a subject named Electra
Who loved him with a passion, uncontested
4 him each day she had a smile
But it didn't matter
The king was looking 4 the ladder

Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go

A feeling of self-worth (everybody's looking)
will caress U (for the answers)
The size of the whole wide world will decrease (how the story started)
(and how it will end)
The love of God's creation will undress U
And time spent alone my friend, will cease

Everybody's looking 4 the answers
How the story started and how it will end
What's the use in half a story, half a dream
U have 2 climb all of the steps in between (yeah, we ride)

Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road (the steps you take are no easy road)
(it's not that easy)
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go (I do)

everybody... everybody's looking (Everybody's looking 4 the answers)
for the answers
everybody wants to know how the story (How the story started)
started and how it will end (started and how it will end)
What's the use in half a story, (What's the use in half a story)
half a dream (half of a dream)
U, U gotta climb, U gotta climb (U have 2 climb all)
all of the steps in between (the steps in between)

everybody,
Everybody's looking 4 that ladder (Everybody's looking 4 the ladder)
Everybody wants salvation of the soul (Everybody wants salvation of the soul)
(salvation)
The steps U take are no easy road (the steps you take are no easy road)
(that's for sure)
But the reward is great (the reward is great)
4 those who want 2 go, (4 those who want 2 go)
those who want 2 go

everybody... everybody wants
Everybody's looking 4 the answers
an answer
anyone who know how the story
How the story started
started, how it will end, started and how it will end
will it be lonely in the world, What's the use in half a story
What's the use' half of a dream
have 2 climb all
the steps in between

©1985 Controversy Music - ASCAP

The Ladder
[John L. Nelson & Prince]
Saxophone playing by Eddie M.
Background voices are Susannah, Taj, Wendy & Lisa
Recorded at Mobile Audio by David Tickle

Basic tracks were recorded on 23 December 1984 (the day before the monologue used in Temptation). Prince taught the song to the band during the soundcheck for the concert that night at the Saint Paul Civic Center Arena, St. Paul, MN, USA, before the band recorded it the same day at the Flying Cloud Drive Warehouse, Eden Prairie, MN, USA. The string interlude prior to the song was previously used on the unreleased track Our Destiny.-PrinceVault

• Prince - vocals, bass, guitar, drums, keyboards
• Bobby Z. - drums and percussion
• Brown Mark - bass guitar and background vocals
• Wendy Melvoin - guitars and background vocals
• Lisa Coleman - keyboards and background vocals
• Dr. Fink - keyboards
• Eddie M. - saxophone
• Susannah - background vocals
• Taja Sevelle - background vocals (as "Taj")

• Violins - Sid Page and Marcy Dicterow-Vaj
• Violas - Denyse Buffam and Laury Woods
• Cello - Suzie Katayama and David Coleman
• Stand-up bass - Tim Barr and Annette Atkinson

Profiles:

John L. Nelson

Eddie M.

Susannah(Melvoin)

Taj(a Sevelle)

Wendy(Melvoin)

Lisa(Coleman)

David Tickle:

Born on September 6, 1959 in Guildford, Surrey.

While best known for his work with Prince, producer and engineer David Tickle first earned notice during the new wave era, typically in conjunction with New Zealand bands including Split Enz (1979's True Colours and 1981's Waiata [Corroboree]) and the Swingers (1979's Practical Jokers). His work with Prince began in 1984, when he mixed much of the material which comprised the landmark Purple Rain LP. By the follow-up, 1985's Around the World in a Day, Tickle had graduated to co-production duties, which he reprised on the subsequent Parade. His work in the Prince camp continued when in 1987 he mixed the eponymous solo debut from ex-Revolution members Wendy & Lisa; a year later, Tickle also produced tracks for U2's Rattle & Hum. After scoring a hit with 1992's 4 Non Blondes debut Bigger, Better, Faster, More, he maintained a relatively low profile during the remainder of the decade.

khill95 said:

This could be me, but I find it funny that even though this album wasn't completely raved about back in the day, 30 years later it sounds better than almost any mainstream release in 1985!! Feel free to disagree but this is what I think.

Songs from the Big Chair : Tears for Fears

Promise: Sade

Whitney Houston

The Night I Fell in Love : Luther Vandross

Asenath0607 said:

Temptation
Sex
Temptation
Lust
Pop go mama

Everybody on this earth has got a vice
And mine, little darlin', mine is the opposite of ice
Mine is the running hot water of the daughter of morality
In other words, this little prince thinks a lot about U, see?
Baby, baby, baby
I'm guilty in the first degree

Temptation
Working my body with a hot flash of animal lust
Temptation
All my fingers in the pool go splash we must

Everybody in this room
Everybody in this room has got an urge
What's yours, baby?
Mine is temptation, it reigns at a party where lovers splurge
Pop go mama when daddy gets a little 2 much
You know what I'm talkin' 'bout?
Purplelectricity whenever our bodies touch
Ooh baby, I love it when our bodies touch

Temptation
Working my body with a hot flash of animal lust
Temptation
All my fingers in the pool go splash we must

Temptation, temptation, temptation

Wait a minute now

Temptation
Working my body with a hot flash of animal lust
Temptation
All my fingers in the pool go splash we must

Temptation
Working my body, working my body, working my body

Temptation
I'm not talkin' about just ordinary temptation, people
I'm talking
about the kind of temptation that'll make U do things
Oh, oh, temptation
Oh, darling, I can almost taste the wetness between your
temptation, temptation
I'm not talking about any ol' kind of temptation, people,
I'm talkin'
about, I'm talkin' about
sexual temptation
A lover
I need a lover, a lover, I need a
right now
U, I want U
I want U in the worst way
I want U

Oh, silly man, that's not how it works
You have 2 want her 4 the right reasons"

I do!

"U don't, now die!"

No! No!

Let me go, let me go

I'm sorry
I'll be good
This time I promise,
Love is more important than sex
Now I understand
I have 2 go now
I don't know when I'll return

Temptation
Saxophone by Eddie M.
Recorded at Capitol Records by David Leonard

Although specific recording dates are not known, the song was recorded during a one-day session in Spring, 1984 at the Capitol Records Building, Los Angeles, CA, USA (the unusual location was because engineer David Leonard was now working there). The session was a solo recording, with saxophone by Eddie M. overdubbed later. Additional work took place on 24 December 1984 (the day after recording The Ladder), in a mobile studio outside Prince's Kiowa Trail Home, Chanhassen, MN, USA immediately following his matinee show at Saint Paul Civic Center Arena, St. Paul, MN, USA, as the final recording made for Around The World In A Day.

-PrinceVault

“He was serious, but it was fun,” says Novog of the sessions. “Because when you see someone with total focus and the energy that he exuded, it wakes you up and makes you concentrate. You all get on the same wavelength. A couple of times when he wasn’t there and it was just Wendy and Lisa, it was still focused but it was maybe a little more light and frivolous. There was a different attitude. Although those guys got a lot of work done.”

We’d start with the drum machine and I wouldn’t leave the studio until it was mixed. That could be 24, 48 hours, and on a couple of occasions we got into about 72, 76 hours. - David Tickle

British engineer David Tickle was also involved in the recording of the new material. Tickle had worked front-of-house sound for the Purple Rain tour and mixed some of the singles taken from the soundtrack. As with Susan Rogers, this was the first time he had been involved in a Prince album from its inception.

“There was no clear objective with what the next album was going to be,” says Tickle. “It wasn’t like it started out and it was gonna be this specific focus. Prince would literally write a song a day and every three days or so we would go and do a full production on something. If you listen to the album, there’s actually quite a difference in the context of the songs themselves, and even in production and sonic value. That’s because when you worked with Prince what happened was he would say, ‘David. I’ve got a song. Get a studio’ - maybe after a show one night, or we may have a couple of days off. We’d start with the drum machine and I wouldn’t leave the studio until it was mixed. Right from the first bass drum being printed. That could be 24, 48 hours, and on a couple of occasions we got into about 72, 76 hours. Without going to sleep. That was his thing. You go in, you start it, and you don’t leave until it’s done. And that moment in time is encapsulated.”

– Around the World in a Day is characterised by the variation in audio fidelity from track to track.

“Some of it is raggedy,” says Tickle. “It doesn’t sound like it was done super high end in a studio, particularly at that time, when a lot of stuff was very pristinely recorded. That’s why everything is so unique. We’d go in, do a song and once it was done, we’d leave it.”

“They had more input,” agrees David Tickle. “Prince would put down a drum machine, do some kind of guide vocal, because he may not have figured out all of his vocal moves yet, then say to Wendy and Lisa, ‘Hey, you go and put background vocals on this’ and we’d build the thing up for him.”

Mix Magazine August 1985
“On the road with Prince” – a conversation with Engineer David Tickle

XSX said:

It's gone on record since (I can't find where while posting this) that Prince had been requesting all of The Beatles albums after Purple Rain and there's absolutely no doubt of an influence here but, as with all but the 'tribute influences' (eg. when he quotes Joni and James Brown for instance and or when he nods to Paul McCartney's 'Silly Love Songs' in 'Love Sign'), they're digested. Musically, there's nothing on ATWIAD that's explictly Beatlish but he has in fact taken their influence in subtler ways, even the fact that the way THEY digested their influences was to make of them something utterly new and unrecognisable.
But as a couple of reviewers noted, he was digesting a lot of sixties influences here. Some heard The Kinks and I can too while some heard him beginning to listen to psychedelic jazz (as indeed has since transpired was the case). He is said to have been most pleased with the fact that George Clinton first appreciated him for this album. That says much because Clinton had himself also made quite a meal, a 'something else' out of disgesting beatle and psychedelic jazz influence.

The cover's psychedlicism of course is said to recall Sgt Pepper and I wouldn't have agreed with it too much until somewhere I saw the albums sitting side by side and thought 'well yeah'.
One thing I've since read is that Paul McCartney intended for Sgt Pepper to be a package that you would listen to over and over and pore over and over for clues as to answers to questions it posed in the course of being also a journey of experience.
This, Prince effected with ATWIAD more than any other of his albums.
I have definitely spent untold hours pondering the meaning of 'The Ladder' and poring over the lyrics in respect of understanding themes he was introducing or continuing to and from later work.
This was the way in which a Beatles influence manifested here but musically, it's only sharing their sheer adventure and I think Prince was definitely infatuated with a certain mode of mystique he hadn't previously considered, an altogether more colourful, sublime mode that is evoked by psychedelic elements in general (colours, sounds in a certain mode of presentation) but not blended well by most practitioners. In this Prince and The Beatles were exceptional because it's just the icing on the cake not the badge.

While people call his Raspberry Beret hairstyle 'Liza Minelli' (which of course it is), it's also to me him saying 'Look, I am The Beatles all rolled into one!'
And, goddamit he was but on this album he's also Sun Ra.

I can't say it's my favourite because I don't rank things.
They all have their moment like every dog you've met, as your favourite for a minute, a day or a year.

What I can say is that no album of Prince's has kept me in a room with just it and its packaging as the entirety of my focus for longer. I've spent days and weeks with this thang!
And the range of styles, the exotic instrumentation, arrangements, lyrics, everything, created in me a new sense of the eclectic which I HAD previously associated with Beatles albums where you come away wanting not to listen to more Beatles or Prince but more music like it, from more artists. In this respect, he promotes a whole other way of consuming music than just looking in the charts for what's selling or in shops for what's been released (which I'll admit, had tended to be my way of getting to music before this album, although, as I say, The Beatles had also pushed me toward their references and flavours in other artists)

I think I bought my first jazz album after hearing ATWIAD and certainly when I got to Sun Ra later, I thought 'Prince has been here'.
That year I also got introduced to Frank Zappa's albums and when Sign O The Times appeared, I rather thought Prince had too. In the meantime, he was going to go to Europe for his next influences which rather depart from this set as it had from Purple Rain.
Again, this was a kind of standard of development which had been set by The Beatles in the 60's but rarely emerged in other artists. In this respect, Prince's whole 80s reputation, now, of continuous development and radical mold-breaking between albums owes much to those fab four with whom I feel sure he engaged and, incredibly, decided to compete.
That he was able to and in some sense equal and transform their mode of invention with such dynamism and invention is the meaning of that raspberry beret 'Beatle' cut for me.

thank U 4 your review